AWD or RWD Accord!?

[Tomisimo]

Gyes i have anancement... Whi do we dont take a wote and send it to honda manufaqturer about....

Whi do they dont make a AWD or RWD as option to accords. coz u se i bein thinkin about by me a A4 Qvatro 5V. insted of new Type R.

Seriosly whats wrong with Honda nawadays.!?

[Cheeseburger]

it would never work but give it a try

[Listen2myBASS]

FWD=Cheaper Parts/Manufacturing
Accord=Econo-Car
AWD would be hella sweet...ima get me a 94 talon TSi AWD next year!

[Civic Accord Honda]

i don't like rwd
i do like awd and fwd
but rwd is to American car-ish

[Listen2myBASS]

i don't like rwd
i do like awd and fwd
but rwd is to American car-ish
rwd is awesome? u feel the power...instead of being pulled by fwd...

[Civic Accord Honda]

but it makes me think of a gto or a mustang some gay car like that

[Listen2myBASS]

old stangs and gto's are nice though...89 Mustang LX 5.0, just plain sexy...and The Judge GTO...also sexy?

[AccordB20A]

LOLLOLOLOLLOLLLlaugh my face off. me and a few friends were gunna do a 3g accord ca18det swap but decided not to as we had no time.

rwd is better than fwd and awd because:
you can do skids
you can do doughies
you can do more skids
you can drift them with ease WITHOUT using the handbrake
only bad thing is you can drive on grass or a rwd will get stuck.

fwd and awd come even. fwd is good for standstils and blowing tyres and they get more traction than a rwd. and everything is in one package. awd is also beter than fwd and rwd for traction cause its both:P. but when it comes to skids awd sucks arse...just like subarus......... and you say rwd is too american... ur wrong mate...rwd is nissan and nissan is jap. american is 3934534.348l v8 with auto gearboxes and fat rear tyres and ford 9 inch diffs. :D there ya go

[Listen2myBASS]

lmao 9 inch diff and a 50250475409 liter engine...i see where ur comin from...all the stangs round here have fat 9 inch tires in back and skinnies up front...and like a 3.75 rear gear? i 4got...but none are auto's...unless its some faggot prettyboy who has like an 02 stang...some fucker on the football team got a 350z bought for him from the school...its fuckin auto though...p.o.s.

[MessyHonda]

AWD accord would be a blast...rear would be cool but then ppl would drift it..lol....we just need LSD on the front wheel drive and il be happy

[Listen2myBASS]

AWD accord would be a blast...rear would be cool but then ppl would drift it..lol....we just need LSD on the front wheel drive and il be happy
:werd:

[ZackieDarko]

but it makes me think of a gto or a mustang some gay car like that


LOL grow up and get some nut hair before you start bashing on cars you know NOTHING about you stupid ricer

[AccordB20A]

id love a rwd accord thats why me and some mates were gonna chop one. maybe it will still happen one day when im rich :) and yeah i need an lsd

[Listen2myBASS]

know nothing about and have never driven...

[Chef Boyardee]

LOL grow up and get some nut hair before you start bashing on cars you know NOTHING about you stupid ricer

Agreed.:stupid:

[Listen2myBASS]

totally off topic but idc...chef...the new golfs have some sick ass rims! get some for ur golf! lol

[Selfmindead]

Honda has made a name for themselves in producing great handling FWD cars that give good performance an economy, RWD = s2000 or the mid-engine NSX. If you want a RWD to do skids & drifts then go buy a skyline, personally I think a RWD would be useless to have fun with when its been turned by a torque less high performance NA engine.

[shepherd79]

well if you did your research, you would find that honda does makes AWD accord and civic in Japan. i am not sure about europe but but in japan they are popular.

[A18A]

well if you did your research, you would find that honda does makes AWD accord and civic in Japan. i am not sure about europe but but in japan they are popular.
thatl be cool, then just chop out the front drive shafts and you got a rwd accord :) or just buy a skyline or cefiro or something like selfmindead said

[bobafett]

best....quotes.....ever......


i don't like rwd
i do like awd and fwd
but rwd is to American car-ish


but it makes me think of a gto or a mustang some gay car like that

[86AccordLxi]

CAH-- wtf?

yeah, fuck 98% of racecars!! they're so.... american car-ish" :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I feel stupider reading through this thread.

Alex

[86AccordLxi]

Honda has made a name for themselves in producing great handling FWD cars that give good performance an economy, RWD = s2000 or the mid-engine NSX. If you want a RWD to do skids & drifts then go buy a skyline, personally I think a RWD would be useless to have fun with when its been turned by a torque less high performance NA engine.

Also, let's clear up some things here. Skylines are not very good drift cars because they're awd (except the gts-t models). They're awd system is super pimpy because it acts like RWD until it detects wheelspin, then transfers power forward--much better than the 50/50 split design of subaru and whatnot.

Just felt the need to clear that up....

Alex

[ilikevtecs]

just do something with the back tires and itl be tities

[87lxtrooper]

awd would be nice

[russiankid]

i don't like rwd
i do like awd and fwd
but rwd is to American car-ish
BMW? Mercedes? Audi? Bentley? Rolls Royce? Porsche? They make RWD cars, so they're gay as you said in your other post?


I bet there are more but thats all i can think off at the top of my head.

[MessyHonda]

i think you just proved legend wrong again....I told ya man....I told ya.....

[AccordB20A]

all the skylines here are rwd apart from the gtr which is 4 wheel drive. most of the people in my area drift silvias and skylines and some attempt to drift cefiros lol

edit: the new accords and legends are awd i was reading the other day somewhere. they got all this traction control and cornering thingees aswell its preddy good

[Civic Accord Honda]

LOL grow up and get some nut hair before you start bashing on cars you know NOTHING about you stupid ricer
(1) I am not a Ricer:thumbdn:
(2) i hate amacan car cuz thay dont last longer then 100000miles:thumbdn:
(3) my nuts are hairy wich sucks cuz thay itch:thumbdn::thumbdn:

[AccordB20A]

(1) Shave your balls
(2) they will go further than 345893495 miles if you look after them and service them
(3) You are so a ricer

haha trust me to be the smart ass.

i have a mate thats allways saying that nissans are better than v8s

[MessyHonda]

(1) I am not a Ricer:thumbdn:
(2) i hate amacan car cuz thay dont last longer then 100000miles:thumbdn:
(3) my nuts are hairy wich sucks cuz thay itch:thumbdn::thumbdn:

1. dont say stuff that sounds like you are a ricer
2.my moms 99 dodge mini van has 136k the most costliest things was a speed sensor that was like 200 bucks. its been a good car...it leaks a bit of oil from the valve cover but we dont worry about since it never looses that much oil in 3000k
3.......STRAIGHT UP TOO MUCH INFO :slap:

[russiankid]

1. dont say stuff that sounds like you are a ricer
2.my moms 99 dodge mini van has 136k the most costliest things was a speed sensor that was like 200 bucks. its been a good car...it leaks a bit of oil from the valve cover but we dont worry about since it never looses that much oil in 3000k
3.......STRAIGHT UP TOO MUCH INFO :slap:
:stupid:

[Civic Accord Honda]

ok will dodge is a vary good car but
i hate ford cars and i dislike chevy cars but thay both make very good trucks :) and i want a dodge neon :)

[Deadhead]

LOL @ THREAD!

but seriously, american cars can, and do last more than 100k miles.

Dodge diesel trucks like my neighbors (2003 cummins 3500) has a 400k mile warranty on the motor before it has to be rebuilt.

Not to mention, GM now has that 100k mile warranty.

also, My step dad has a 98 ford taurus, with over 170k on it, and it runs just fine. My mom has a 96 saturn which is made by GM, 133k and runs ok.

I regularly service a later 90's ford f-150 that has over 250k miles on it, granted it's a POS, but it still runs. and another F-150 with over 310k miles on it, and it looks like new.

[russiankid]

ok will dodge is a vary good car but
i hate ford cars and i dislike chevy cars but thay both make very good trucks :) and i want a dodge neon :)
Dodge Neon has known oil-ring problems, search it up you will find so many problems with them.

[gp02a0083]

wait wait wait someone said they made awd accords? i didnt know this i thought that the only awd they had was like the Citi or something

[AccordB20A]

if our accords were rwd all the faggy nissan owners wood have them

[ZackieDarko]

i think there should be some state laws about teaching home school children to spell correctly

[MIK3]

i hate ford cars and i dislike chevy cars but thay both make very good trucks and i want a dodge neon

Dude, you don't know how tempted I am to put that in my signature...especially after reading your comments on this thread about american cars sucking because they don't last. That vehicle my friend has one of the LEAST life expectancies on record (hence why SRT-4s stopped production after a couple years...honestly, I wasn't sure what Mopar was thinking to begin with.)

Anyway, back on topic. I think in the future, I do see, perpahs an HFP Accord going all wheel drive. It just sounds like something that would be included in an HFP package later on in Honda's future.

[BITESIZE]

The made the S2000 rear wheel drive...

[DJ Skillz 187]

RWD > AWD > FWD

That's my opinion anyway.

The BIG disadvantage to AWD is drivetrain loss.
As an example:
The 3000GT's with the fastest 1/4 mile times have all been FWD, only because they don't make a RWD 3000GT :-\
The AWD is great for launch... great for 60ft. After that, the 2WD takes over.
AWD gets better traction than both FWD and RWD, but the loss of power through all the drivetrain isn't always worth it.
RWD gets better traction that FWD on the 1/4, because while accelerating, all the weight shifts to the rear. This is the reason why 99% of drag cars are RWD.
The only reason most cars were made FWD is because they are much cheaper to manufacture.

As far as handling goes, it's arguable between AWD and RWD.
RWD is easier to control that FWD, but AWD has a traction advantage.
Systems like quattro in the audi's, and other awd systems (new acuras, etc.) are electronically controlled to help cornering.

BTW... i'm rambling drunk so i hope this makes sense.

[AccordB20A]

i like the nissan ateeza 4wd system. pull out a fuse and you got rwd hahaha

[87lxtrooper]

I had a buddy out here with an srt4 and it blew up just cruising down the road at 35. He never even made a payment on it. Less than 2k mi. on it.

[Tomisimo]

i don't like rwd
i do like awd and fwd
but rwd is to American car-ish

No... if you studiet fisics then you know, thet under akseleration all waight transfear back, the point is thet under axeleration you lose much grip coz front of the car lifts up. you can play alot more with RWD tho

[shepherd79]

there is nothing wrong with RWD cars. I like Ford crown vic or Lincoln town car. they are nice, big and they ride very comfy.
The FWD cars are a lot cheaper to make and if you think, it takes less Hp to move the car if it has FWD.
Little example. take a wheel barrow, fill up with sand and try to push it up to hill. this time do the same except try to pull it . you will see it is much easier to pull than push.
a lot of Honda awd systems are actually fwd systems. awd will turn on when one of the front tires slipping, full throttle engaged or turned on manually.

As far as skyline goes, they come with RWD. they don't have as much hp as GTR but it is enough for that car. on R32 and R34 all you have to do is pull out the fuse to turn off the front wheels. all the power will go to the back. On R33 is a little diff. You have to actually remove the axels. to make it RWD.

[snoopyloopy]

what do they badge the acura rl as in other parts of the world? that could be what you want. 300 hp awd car right there. costs damn near $50k, though. but anyway, imo, depends on what your driving style is and the purpose of the car. but awd > rwd > fwd for general use as a daily driver. and for setting track records. reportedly the fastest 4 cylinder car in the world is awd. (1g eclipse gsx--look up sheppard racing over on youtube.) but for raw fun and power, i'd take a rwd. and when i want to save energy fuel, fwd will have to suffice.

[Tomisimo]

if our accords were rwd all the faggy nissan owners wood have them

thets thro man

[Tomisimo]

The made the S2000 rear wheel drive...

Yes they did. AND cabrio as standart. Not good for drifting. Soft body makes whole chasy to wongel.
A normal coupe would have like 40000N - 60000N in the shel with chasy.
A cabrio have 20000N - 25000N.
You se the point? tho drift with S2000 you need some moods to body, to stifen up a bit. mager flo

[Selfmindead]

Also, let's clear up some things here. Skylines are not very good drift cars because they're awd (except the gts-t models). They're awd system is super pimpy because it acts like RWD until it detects wheelspin, then transfers power forward--much better than the 50/50 split design of subaru and whatnot.
Just felt the need to clear that up....
Alex

err thanks, but im guessing he cant afford a GTR so I was thinking along the lines of a gtst rb20det

[Tomisimo]

a Skiline GT is RWD with same 3.0l Engine. just with out advansed software like in GTR. In drifting you need good hendling not a car thet think for you. thets the buty of drifting Skils, any kid kan take advansed car for a spin.

[race12001]

man fwd is the better of the choices i have a 3000gt fully loaded awd aws twin turbos its kick ass but when i take off goin down the 1/4 i get the hole shot but come 330 mark fwd twin turbos catch up in a hurry thats why all the record breakers have been fwd plus dont change what aint broken fwd work and thats what we all know and love

[speedpenguin]

well if you did your research, you would find that honda does makes AWD accord and civic in Japan. i am not sure about europe but but in japan they are popular.

Hey, let's not forget our hero RWDs, the S2000 and NSX. RWD is far from gay. It's just not the focus of this forum.

[white ricer]

for everyone here who thinks the rwd swap is "impossible" highroller on homemadeturbo.com is doing it right now using a civic awd drivetrain in a 89 civic hatch, its in the general section and is moving along very nicely.. enjoy

oh and they made integras awd in europe with dual cam zc's, now that would be sweet to have..

[ZackieDarko]

DUN DUN DUNNNNN

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=zxi+integra

[Tomisimo]

This thread automatically subtracts at least 10 points off your IQ.
ugh. =/

and you are so smart then?

[Tomisimo]

Well it depends. You know if stupid gets somthing in hes head then he thinks he is smarter then ewerybody...

First of all i'm not english or american or australyan for thet mether. So if i have spel problem then its coz i norwegian. i stil lern english (gramatics).

If yo dont like to reade mi posts or threads then do yous self a favour. DONT READ

[MessyHonda]

:lock:

[bucket_man]

Also, let's clear up some things here. Skylines are not very good drift cars because they're awd (except the gts-t models). They're awd system is super pimpy because it acts like RWD until it detects wheelspin, then transfers power forward--much better than the 50/50 split design of subaru and whatnot.
Just felt the need to clear that up....
Alex

most skylines you see are RWD.. and the R32's that arent, can very easily turned RWD by turning the car off then on while its still rolling.. a guy i know used to leave HUGE twinies around our local suburb from doing that.
and quite alot of skylines drift.. watch some movies and im sure youll see a few.

[A18A]

most skylines you see are RWD.. and the R32's that arent, can very easily turned RWD by turning the car off then on while its still rolling.
how does that work?

[A20A1]

Yeah but why waste engery spinning a long axle from the front to the rear of the car. now if it was rear or mid engine and RWD I might get RWD.

[speedpenguin]

Well, I get more and more supportive of a RWD Honda sedan as the Accords get bigger and bigger. FWD is fine for a car our size, actually it can be an advantage because of the lighter weight. But the current Civic is the size of our cars now. I think it's time Honda stopped feeding steroids to its cars.

[cndyapple88lxi]

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