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SQ is the SQUAD
11-12-2006, 09:13 AM
i am bout to get cracking on making my adapter plate so that i cam mount my b18a cable tranny to my a20a motor. this is being inspired by jason budds turbo 9 sec a20a/b18a combo. we realy dont have to many details on how he did his, but we can work with the pictures ect. i am def going to need some help from the other members with stuff like CAD drawings. i was checking out www.emachineshop.com and was thinking that i could try to just them to get some parts made. i will def shop around on priceses first.

i need some help on deciding what materials to use. at first i was palning on making it out is a steal plate. but then i seen the price of steal, the weight and thought how hard it would be to work with. so i think i am going to go with aluminum. do yall think aluminum is strong enough to hold? i was thanking of getting a 2.5x2.5 3/4" think sheet to start off with. ill get the exact measurement of the mating surhace to make use that not to small. but what do yall think on the thickness. is 3/4" to thick or to thin

the first thing i am going to need help on is making the adapter that going to go inbetween the b series flywheel and the a series crank. seeing that i have both cranks and flywheels in my basement i can check to see how similar the bolt patterns are. if they are exactly the same then i would just need a CAD drawing of the bolt pattern that is the circular curcumfrance of the crank end, that is also 3/4" (or what ever we decide) thick. we also need to debate is this going to throw off balancing. i am going to take some flywheel bolts to a specialty bolt place to see if i can get time 3/4" longer to making up for the extra space of the crank spacer.
here is a pic of jasons budds spacer. not sure if its actually fused onto the end of the crank
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/haveaNOSday/dcf73044.jpg

if you have any important info/suggestions please peak up, and ill update them on this first page

smufguy
11-13-2006, 07:31 AM
6061 should be ample enough for that adapter plate

SQ is the SQUAD
11-13-2006, 07:49 AM
so yeaterday i pulled the tranny apart. it was pretty clean on the inside. none of the gears where striped or anything/ i pulled the whole gear assemplys out and washed the cases. once i look up what gears i want to use for my turbo setup ill start putting it back together. scraping up the money to grab a obx lsd ( we now know how to fix the known problems with these). since the tranny is apart it makes it a million times esier to mock up for the adapter plate. i am going to have my block and tranny powdercoated black, might even do the tranny case myself. i made the face of the b18 tranny out or cardboard and ill to the fave of the a20 block today and post pics later

Legend_master
11-13-2006, 08:12 AM
so yeaterday i pulled the tranny apart. it was pretty clean on the inside. none of the gears where striped or anything/ i pulled the whole gear assemplys out and washed the cases. once i look up what gears i want to use for my turbo setup ill start putting it back together. scraping up the money to grab a obx lsd ( we now know how to fix the known problems with these). since the tranny is apart it makes it a million times esier to mock up for the adapter plate. i am going to have my block and tranny powdercoated black, might even do the tranny case myself. i made the face of the b18 tranny out or cardboard and ill to the fave of the a20 block today and post pics later


wow dude that is a hell of a project, I wouldn't even know where to start. As for the gearing, I would run the LS integra or b18a/b gears. They are the widest of all the b-series gearing and great for turbo applications.

SQ is the SQUAD
11-13-2006, 08:40 AM
yeah, well its a b18a tranny and all the gears look great. when i cleaned out the tranny case on the lil magnet on the bottom is had very few small shavings but no chunks or anything. and the gears look as if they where never grinded.

88LXi68
11-13-2006, 08:41 AM
This motor is going to be an anchor. The cast-iron block of the A20 coupled with the heavy transmission of the Bseries sounds pretty heavy to me. The A20 transmission is much smaller and I would think by doing the 1st gen Integra gear swap would yield just as good results with less amount of work.

Legend_master
11-13-2006, 08:56 AM
This motor is going to be an anchor. The cast-iron block of the A20 coupled with the heavy transmission of the Bseries sounds pretty heavy to me. The A20 transmission is much smaller and I would think by doing the 1st gen Integra gear swap would yield just as good results with less amount of work.


Do they make an LSD for the first gen teg internals?

SQ is the SQUAD
11-13-2006, 08:58 AM
well. i was reading the jason budd post where he was saying his a20 trannys where prob to blowing up. i dident want to deal with that. plus my stock tranny was auto, i am converting to 5spd. i already had a b18a tranny laying around, minds well put it to use. plus with the b series tranny i can use the obx lsd. and on top od that i can use the b series short shifters, shifter bearing, light weight flywheels and clutches. it does have alot od advantages. not to mention stage 3 axles

SQ is the SQUAD
11-13-2006, 09:03 AM
Do they make an LSD for the first gen teg internals?
not usre, but i am sure they have on for the b18a cable tranny

shepherd79
11-13-2006, 12:09 PM
well. i was reading the jason budd post where he was saying his a20 trannys where prob to blowing up. i dident want to deal with that. plus my stock tranny was auto, i am converting to 5spd. i already had a b18a tranny laying around, minds well put it to use. plus with the b series tranny i can use the obx lsd. and on top od that i can use the b series short shifters, shifter bearing, light weight flywheels and clutches. it does have alot od advantages. not to mention stage 3 axles

well, the only reason jason kept blowing A series trans was because he was pushing a lot of power. I believe he was close to 600 or over 600 hp easy.
you are not going to push that much power. people on this board had their cars up to 30psi with stock tranny and it held up just fine. i think you are waisting your time and money. if i was you i would get carbed tranny since it has a little longer gear ratio.
as far as short shifters, there are short shifters for our accords.
i wouldn't use light weight flywheel. you don't want RPM drop too quickly when you shift. stock flywheel should be just fine.
just build up the motor to handle some power and tune the shit out of it.
as far as axels go, you can get them custom made.

88LXi68
11-13-2006, 01:50 PM
well, the only reason jason kept blowing A series trans was because he was pushing a lot of power. I believe he was close to 600 or over 600 hp easy.
you are not going to push that much power. people on this board had their cars up to 30psi with stock tranny and it held up just fine. i think you are waisting your time and money. if i was you i would get carbed tranny since it has a little longer gear ratio.
as far as short shifters, there are short shifters for our accords.
i wouldn't use light weight flywheel. you don't want RPM drop too quickly when you shift. stock flywheel should be just fine.
just build up the motor to handle some power and tune the shit out of it.
as far as axels go, you can get them custom made.


Agreed, just seems like a lot of work for nothing. You could turn around and sell that LS tranny for like $250 and put it towards something else.

Rob is using an LSD from a B-series in his b20 trans, so I am sure something would fit in the A20 trans.

shepherd79
11-13-2006, 02:41 PM
with proper tunning stock engine can handle a lot more than 12 psi. Sean had GM ignition system and he was running close to 20 psi on stock bottom end.
it is all about tunning.

SQ is the SQUAD
11-13-2006, 03:19 PM
well, i am still doing it anyways............................ just because i want to.

newaccorddriver
11-13-2006, 03:43 PM
well, the only reason jason kept blowing A series trans was because he was pushing a lot of power. I believe he was close to 600 or over 600 hp easy.
you are not going to push that much power. people on this board had their cars up to 30psi with stock tranny and it held up just fine. i think you are waisting your time and money. if i was you i would get carbed tranny since it has a little longer gear ratio.
as far as short shifters, there are short shifters for our accords.
i wouldn't use light weight flywheel. you don't want RPM drop too quickly when you shift. stock flywheel should be just fine.
just build up the motor to handle some power and tune the shit out of it.
as far as axels go, you can get them custom made.


i dont think our trannys can withstand 600hp if we constantly bag on it, but even then, how many of us had that much power to play with from an A20?

the stock tranny should be useable to a point where we shouldnt have to change it until we went for a track day.

how much does a stock B series flywheel weigh? my guess is if its close to what ours weigh when its lightened, then it might be more worthwhile to use a B series flywheel instead with an adapter piece. the reason i say this is cause its alot easier to find a beefy clutch for a B series then it is an A series.


how much, and where can i get custom axles made?

AccordEpicenter
11-13-2006, 04:40 PM
unless youre planning on running 10s the stock tranny should be strong enough, Jason budd and Johnny O had problems when they were running low 10s when they started going thru trannies.

AccordEpicenter
11-13-2006, 04:46 PM
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SQ is the SQUAD
11-13-2006, 05:02 PM
maybe i plan on running low ten's : )

A20A1
11-13-2006, 06:53 PM
I thought you could get LSD with the B18? Isn't that what some of you guys wanted?

SQ is the SQUAD
11-13-2006, 06:58 PM
just got a message back form jason bud, the plate is 1/2' aluminum and he getting me the info on where he got his crank space. the guy sold him a prototype is form quartersports

shepherd79
11-13-2006, 07:19 PM
good luck with a project i hope you get it done and have no problems running with it.

SQ is the SQUAD
11-13-2006, 07:21 PM
good luck with a project i hope you get it done and have no problems running with it.

thanks alex

MessyHonda
11-13-2006, 07:36 PM
just got a message back form jason bud, the plate is 1/2' aluminum and he getting me the info on where he got his crank space. the guy sold him a prototype is form quartersports

cant he send you more detailed pics and specs so its less hard on you?

SQ is the SQUAD
11-13-2006, 08:03 PM
i am slowly getting info directly from the source, just gotta wait it out a bit

88LXi68
11-13-2006, 08:10 PM
maybe i plan on running low ten's : )


I hope you would raise that car up then... :)

TWOLOUDNPROUD
11-13-2006, 08:25 PM
the crank space you can get them off auto a20a3 i have like two of them laying some where i would half to look for them

SQ is the SQUAD
11-13-2006, 08:31 PM
the crank space you can get them off auto a20a3 i have like two of them laying some where i would half to look for them

i dont understand what you are saying. my a20a3 is auto, are you saing i can use something in there?

SQ is the SQUAD
11-13-2006, 10:37 PM
yes, i will be using aluminum forthe plate. i am going to build the plate incase i blow up this tranny, it will make it esier to swap. no need to modify the end of the shiftlinkage, ill just use the whole integra shidter assembly. i already have an aftermarket b series tranny mount brack that ill weld insode the engine bay once i see exactly where the tranny will end up. as far as a xles go, one of our accounts for the towing company used to one silent drive, a axle company in boston. he now has a junkyard, ill ask him about shorthnig it or usring a different longer axle and shorthing that

TWOLOUDNPROUD
11-14-2006, 12:42 AM
i dont understand what you are saying. my a20a3 is auto, are you saing i can use something in there?
On the a20a3 auto trany between the crank and the flex plate there is a crank space that what i am saying

SQ is the SQUAD
11-14-2006, 08:53 AM
if i have time today i am gonna pull off my auto tranny to see what your talking about

SQ is the SQUAD
11-14-2006, 01:31 PM
i took the auto tranny off earlier and the lil space that was in there was way too thin. it would tale 8 0f them to equal 1/2" but on the bright side i can use it as a trmplate for when i get my sheet of aluminum so that i can drill ome out. jason budd said that the longer bolts he used for thr flywheel are acutally arp bolts. the needed a lil shaced off the end, no biggie. just trying to see if i can get the part number

b20a86lude
01-04-2007, 07:38 AM
some come on update us

89T
01-16-2007, 05:03 PM
well, i am still doing it anyways............................ just because i want to.
are you done yet? j/k ;)
seems to be coming along well.

SQ is the SQUAD
01-16-2007, 06:15 PM
everything is on hold until i finish moving into my sisters garage. no garage at my house

hondaman1986
04-22-2007, 01:54 PM
everything is on hold until i finish moving into my sisters garage. no garage at my house


hey man did you move yet or what!

hows the adapter comming along?

89T
10-03-2015, 05:37 AM
Bringing this back from the dead.
I know that life happens, but did you get any further with this project?

89T
10-03-2015, 05:45 AM
So I am looking at h2b kits. Does anyone know if this h22 crank bolt pattern is the same as the a20. I am looking at the h2b fly wheel as possible answer to the spacer delema. If so all that is left is the transmission spacer. Now there could be a possible answer to that as well with the h2b transmission spacer.

obd0driver
10-03-2015, 09:51 PM
^^^ im instead as well

89T
10-04-2015, 07:46 AM
I sent out some emails.

obd0driver
10-06-2015, 01:31 PM
Im gonna go and by the wood to make a template. I have a b series trans and I'll just pull my trans and trace them both.

89T
10-06-2015, 03:10 PM
I got one email, they said they don't do 1 offs or even 10 offs. Lol

obd0driver
10-06-2015, 03:14 PM
Wow. It ok just to sorry i can't help you sometimes. Lol i figured i would have to find a local shop to do it. I know a couple of places. I've also talked to chedda auto and he said he would ne will to do it for us. Not sure what yhe cost eould look like tho

89T
10-07-2015, 11:01 AM
Look at what i found! A Factory honda crank spacer.
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Lol.

obd0driver
10-07-2015, 11:05 AM
Sick one step closer

89T
10-07-2015, 12:01 PM
I think I just figured out the b series clutch swap for the a20 trans. Think I'll keep that under wraps for now.

obd0driver
10-07-2015, 12:14 PM
I see how it is

89T
10-07-2015, 12:49 PM
Have to test it
first.

Oldblueaccord
10-07-2015, 12:56 PM
Have to test it
first.

They make shims for the flywheel as well I think there on Rockauto. That should get you dialed in.

obd0driver
12-08-2019, 10:11 PM
Welp it been year's since this was updated. But here you go. Also if you would like to get yourself one rech out will get a list going so as I test the plate in coming weeks. [emoji320][emoji319][emoji318][emoji482]

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obd0driver
12-19-2019, 07:16 PM
Welp the first step in many to come. But the prototype has arrived and the spacer is on it's way. I'll source the need harder and go from there.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191220/e2245c1ed5a34bc1fb5fd3cb83a824f2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191220/77198349f92917063b3b881dad9ef6ca.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191220/53284951949bbf1ffa5d40f7c6646752.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191220/9ccc2183db64758b1c5f9e1e3ccda239.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191220/0dc08cd3120c7f8d89c7f49d1d4ecb04.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191220/8f1cf93ab7f928396ebb1d8202399766.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191220/3a7927b07beaf12369b877fcd2fbf45e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191220/34f12a9b8dc2f009113cdb3f655f32f4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191220/38da66fc4c2c6e6abdd3b26daa66c792.jpg

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89T
12-23-2019, 01:13 PM
It should be there today.

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obd0driver
12-24-2019, 09:13 AM
Unboxing video I made

https://youtu.be/lm35JeqHJAY

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obd0driver
01-07-2020, 11:00 PM
****Bump update****01/05/2020

Well it been a week and a busy one at that. I was did some traveling to my inlaws and wasn't able to work on this tell Friday. But fast forward to 2020 and we have some success. Lots to cover so here we go(photos will follow full detailed video in the next weekish).

First things bolts finding them was a but harder then I thought. Fine thread metric bolts is impossible local and online they have little to no real information on length so ordered them and can be a chance at best. I called a bunch of place last Monday to chase down the flywheel bolts and not even arp could help the sent me to the company's that make there bolts and they didn't have what was needed. So once I got back home started the search locally and had about the same success. I reached out to allen and he was able provide me with part's numbers for OEM Hondas flywheel bolt at Both 40mm and 45mm
Length.(I will provide the number once I have the bolts). I went to my local dealer where they were able to order me one of each to test fitment and that will happen Tomorrow and I will order the rest(7 out of 8) to be here next day couple days.

As far as the socket head bolts needed to mate the plate to the head nothing in the right length locally.
but I found some(m10x60mm) that would require some trimming and re-threading of the shoulder. After that I should end up with a 4 m10x29mm 1.25 pitch socket head bolt to bolt the plate to the block and clear the transmission. But these definitely would need be ordered I just wanted some for testing before I bought something that's gonna be hard to return if they were incorrect. Also they dont make a 29mm long bolt.(this part still needs to be worked out 100%). But m10x30mm bolts are easily found online and trimming 1mm shouldn't be hard thing to do once I learn how to that is lol.

T-bracket/rear mount seem to fit the stock A series with a bit of modifications. First the bolt holes have to be stepped up to fit the larger bolts for the b series transmission. Next there may need to be a bit of cutting on the transmission of the bracket to clear then trans but that easy fix(not totally sure this will need to be done see next part) and the same with the bolt area where b series bolts go in due to the size of the heads on the bolts. So its trim of new bolt either way it's not hard.
The second part of the t-bracket(rear mount) is there would need be a spacer to make up the difference between the mount and transmission. This shouldn't be a issue due to the fact that this is a test plate so the material can be left or added to the final version of the plates. Seeing how the axle hole has to be cut in the same general area the plate has to be redone not matter what.

I also but the starter in and it clears the plate so that's great news. Just need the flywheel wheel bolts to test engagement of the starter and flywheel so more to come here.

I also took some time to get my accord back on all fours and removed the engine for the most part. So the bay is not freeish to test fitment. Just gave bought a hoist that can hold all the weight because this setup is heavy af.

So I've let allen know of the changes that will need to be made and there are still something's that need to be worked out but progress is progress and I'll continue to plug away at it.


*update flywheel bolts*01/07/2020
So 40mm bolts are gonna be the ones. The bolt can be trimmed a hair, the spacer can be made a hair thicker or a crush washers can be added. There are a couple work arounds for these so its really a non issue. Each will effect where the flywheel sits in relation to the starter so there's bit more investigation but nothing major.

So with that being said the part number is 90011-PGE-000 they cost $4.82 each $38.56 for the set. You can get then next day from the dealer in most cases. These came from a 03-07 accord so technically you could go to the jy and get a set because these are no stretch bolts and can be reused for those of you on a budget.

Heres a sample. The world's first look at a2b awd trans swap.

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obd0driver
02-02-2020, 11:26 PM
So did a thing. Well kinda I was able to drop the A2B setup in today. There's some issues with space in the rear the trans hits the rear sub frame nothing a bit hammer can't fix and the trans sits on the radius arm from the front cross member. I would assume that this is a problem for AWD trans but not for the Fwd. So with that being said I will test a Fwd and go from there. Also the front and rear mount seem to line up with little to no problems. The drivers side will need to move but this is because of where the trans is hitting. Cheers[emoji482]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200203/efd49f07a3073065f85bef80e32a045e.jpg

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89T
02-04-2020, 09:01 PM
So did a thing. Well kinda I was able to drop the A2B setup in today. There's some issues with space in the rear the trans hits the rear sub frame nothing a bit hammer can't fix and the trans sits on the radius arm from the front cross member. I would assume that this is a problem for AWD trans but not for the Fwd. So with that being said I will test a Fwd and go from there. Also the front and rear mount seem to line up with little to no problems. The drivers side will need to move but this is because of where the trans is hitting. Cheers[emoji482]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200203/efd49f07a3073065f85bef80e32a045e.jpg

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obd0driver
02-11-2020, 10:54 PM
Here the latest.

https://youtu.be/PqeX0BnXStQ

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obd0driver
03-23-2020, 06:57 PM
So I'm still working out some of the rear mount things but for the most part the plates are ready for production.

If you are interested in buying a plate send Allen a email with your contact information so he can send out invoices and post your reply back from him below so I can add you to the list.

[email protected]

List of buyers:

Me(obd0driver)[paid]
*Ethan(susanoo)*
*Chris burger(cygnus x-1)*
Jeremy Gallegos(89T)
Tim Taylor (tdurr)
Gabe Grossmann(knifemind on 3geez & prelude power)

* for those that have sent contact information for invoices to make payment.

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Oldblueaccord
06-10-2020, 03:37 PM
Hit us with an update when you can.

obd0driver
06-11-2020, 10:06 PM
Hit us with an update when you can.I've been looking for a reasonably priced 5 speed awd trans so I can make the mount rear more. I'll looking for a second rear mount so that's I can make both the awd and fwd ls hydro transmission. The reason I've decided to go with the awd trans it because the shift linkage would much easier to detect with and leave room to 3 in exhaust.

As far as the group buy we ended 2 (out of 5)more people to contact allen ready to buy before he'll run the plates. I've sent home the final details for the adjustments needed to the pate and he said that's it wouldn't take him more then a couple mines to do and he'll run the plates at that moment. So in other words the hang up is we need more commit people.

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obd0driver
06-11-2020, 10:09 PM
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obd0driver
06-13-2020, 10:28 PM
Updated
Awd drive transmission found and will ship out Monday. Reach out to Allen and will follow up Monday still looking for in one ready to buy person.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200614/80616f48b0ba754746586b32ba463185.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200614/95db72d5a7a0c4c350c2900e5f34276b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200614/50704b4b6432f5344cddef0c1fc1e01c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200614/58a1eb2498b90248fd36bdc9152656ed.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200614/8c9107cabd89dd68c013ccc3f4e3c5cc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200614/9482db583818fa9023834f6468cc31d7.jpg

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Dr_Snooz
06-15-2020, 09:13 PM
Someday, we're all going to have 3d printers and CNC machines in our garages. Then we'll simply post "Can someone please upload the files for the A2B adapter plate? I need to make one." Then we won't have to mess with group buys anymore. Won't that be nice?

obd0driver
06-15-2020, 09:28 PM
Someday, we're all going to have 3d printers and CNC machines in our garages. Then we'll simply post "Can someone please upload the files for the A2B adapter plate? I need to make one." Then we won't have to mess with group buys anymore. Won't that be nice?Yeah you have no Idea. I've been thinking about get a plasma table for my inlaws place for this reason. Lol

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obd0driver
06-19-2020, 08:46 AM
Updated trans in on it's way. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200619/1df4b1685e65c040f63d8e877bdca599.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200619/1156a76868eb8b78794ab1db8e47bcdb.jpg

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obd0driver
07-10-2020, 10:55 AM
Bump update
Welp the trans showed up finally. Not 100% the way it should have been enough to move forward with test fitment.
Good news is that nothing seems broken bad news is someone took the t case, clutch slave and fork[emoji58]. I have contacted the seller and he's trying to work out a solution. I have a spare tcase from my automatic transmission so it shouldn't be a problem to put that on for now. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/a570c25af8a358e27beef009a938a6f4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/01ff0f6ad8d0b5ef41fb412393624f60.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/1615a83e2867e9462c3c353895f726e4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/3b64c57111a6448576cc52dacafa8dc9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/eb35c03fbed3c64c63d1fca73cf6b1fb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/abf7787944949e18ffa67a3c0d14f5f0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/0331560db4484e3aab1ece246e4c9142.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/41843103de87130e15787a449e93e371.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/3ed4f6fe5bc8f0ad27f3ee6f396d0f94.jpg

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obd0driver
08-01-2020, 08:13 PM
Welp got so time to work on the accord. Good news is the 5speed awd trans fit even better then I expected. It clears the front tierods no problems. In photos 2 and 3 you can see the rear mount bolt holes and see how far off they are. But I'm able to get one of them in so I can mount the motor in the car for the fab work to be done.

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obd0driver
08-11-2020, 04:45 PM
Shifter photos I forgot to posthttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200812/87ab6505d49a6f13911c69df8b6ade56.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200812/5dc751963399fe4ea7528bec1bd4d72c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200812/97e493e456dff5ffafb8c1128e0882b9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200812/892de7f27139a1849575e829c393d864.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200812/a102bc5410f20aa78920e551dbcf1b94.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200812/348292f6288d057f33a8d3c82bd4e71e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200812/9c2dcfd14d6d8ceb3560e75e81a2dc12.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200812/c246fc69f48df85a5e5c71e8d67ae7dc.jpg

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obd0driver
08-27-2020, 08:22 PM
For the trans parts. Housing s separated from the rest of the transmission going to try to get over to my buddies to weld the rear mount together then ship the house over to Alan to finish the plate.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200828/fcfbfdbab4e9f0134eb19072b321dc9e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200828/c85d1aa2892318f9dd884422d9e8bf2d.jpg

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89T
09-01-2020, 04:18 AM
For the trans parts. Housing s separated from the rest of the transmission going to try to get over to my buddies to weld the rear mount together then ship the house over to Alan to finish the plate.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200828/fcfbfdbab4e9f0134eb19072b321dc9e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200828/c85d1aa2892318f9dd884422d9e8bf2d.jpg

Sent from my SM-N950U using TapatalkSo whats the time frame on completion

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obd0driver
09-01-2020, 07:46 AM
So whats the time frame on completion

Sent from my SM-G981U using TapatalkDon't really have one tbh but if I had to put a timeline on it I'd say a month out. I mean allen makes it sound like it can done as soon as he gets the parts. "It should take 5 minutes" to make changes to the cad file. Also I don't have access to a fwd trans at the moment so that's gonna slow things down if your dead set on fwd trans. Now if awd if fine I could send this out this afternoon and in say 7-10 days we'd have something new to look at. That's shipping and the holiday taken into consideration and baring any mail/shipping delays. If I have to get fwd trans I'll have use the lexan to make a template for the rear mount because its different from the awd trans slowing things down more. That's where I'm at any input or suggestions[emoji2375]

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obd0driver
12-23-2020, 06:48 PM
Ok so it been a while since I posted here. So here in the later without the bs.

Made/modified the stock accord rear mount and my dd was stolen with it in. Get the mount back some time later. Test fit mount with tac weld modification. Fits like it was meant to be there. The mount modifications consist of cutting(top hole) and widening bottom the hole of the stock mount. Then I tack welded a piece of 1/2 inch steel plate that I had drilled the holes for the transmission to the modified rear mount. After final plate this with change in some fashion but it's also up for debate(feel free to give me some thoughts).

Oreder a 60mm holesaw bit then drill a hole in the plate for the half staft. Drill hole in plate grind it a bit do clearance fits like a glove.(this will be done on the final plate)

Half staft hits black box to oil pan hose. Delete black box replace with D series block plug fitting.
GO-AUTOWORKS Block Plug Adaptor D16 D15 DOHC ZC (http://www.go-autoworks-store.com/godseblplfi.html)

And then I cut off the neck off the oil pan. I'll weld it shut and all it a day. Next update will be to cut the 3rd hole off the alternator bracket to make room for some ⅛inch plate where I'll drill holes for 3 14mm wheel studs that will bolt the halfshaft to the mount plate. The mount plate will bolted to the alt mount and a couple other of the now freed up bolts hole location on the block suggested by Jason budd had previously mentioned above.

From there get crv axles to test fit axle. Then to move to the cables. Which I also have a plan for.
Cut a hole in the firewall and use one of these k series shift cable grommet like this.
Billet Firewall Shifter Cable Grommet for Civic Integra K-Series Swap K20 K24 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/224095514575)

Last order of business would be send the plate back for final adjustments and then have Allen run the plates. So Merry Christmas and Happy New Years sometime after the first of the year I'll have a update on the plate roll out. At this point I'm gonna gonna say it best for people to get a awd transmission to do this. For those that would like fwd I would say pick this up SpeedFactory Racing FWD2AWD B-Series Gear Conversion Kit
– SpeedFactoryRacing (https://www.speedfactoryracing.net/products/speedfactory-b-series-fwd2awd-transmission-conversion-kit)
Then you can run whatever b series gears you would like. As far as the transfer case you just pull it off and cap it.

Umm photos

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obd0driver
12-23-2020, 07:19 PM
So some reason tap talk is being weird and hella selective of the photos I can and can't post so they are gonna be random in order. If you want them in order see the fb link.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201224/dc3a7eb2db15b1fcd907f0509578ad90.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201224/0f13f6c3b3165e5a6e9626617b6099d1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201224/a47f2267a6df574e7e18be93d7f00e3c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201224/56049eed6b8096d695fb1e00c06f4d58.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201224/21cc29785c530c34adff8bbbaa8527c1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201224/84d95ebd8274a41a1883d38ac457a0c8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201224/ca284ceb6e6f4469128e409557d28e98.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201224/74ecd76537041de5f2801f3fa8830dcd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201224/20f5fd7139a04117db53573bc94e252c.jpg

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obd0driver
12-23-2020, 07:25 PM
The back of the block after removing the black box and cutting the oil pan tube off.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201224/e4d64ce5b95f2bb2b967671b0a0c9897.jpg

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obd0driver
12-23-2020, 09:26 PM
And a video so you can hear my beautiful voice and get a better look at things.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBbQhOHNoEc&list=LL&index=1

Oldblueaccord
12-24-2020, 07:01 AM
Great Job!

EDIT: Can you imbed your youtube? the link is tripping the safety in the software.

obd0driver
12-24-2020, 09:15 AM
Great Job!

EDIT: Can you imbed your youtube? the link is tripping the safety in the software.So I've tried it a couple time and its not working either tap talk or the site is cockblocking me [emoji58] same with the photos. I have a ton of them but even with the pro tap talk I can't ad half of them. I'll try on my desktop in and see what happens

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Oldblueaccord
12-24-2020, 09:20 AM
I redid your you tube. The picture hosting I dont have a good solution as of yet. Sorry.

EDIT:

Well for me I use Imageshack its 3.99 a month. I reuped and they cut you a deal on a whole year for 37$.

obd0driver
12-24-2020, 10:25 AM
I redid your you tube. The picture hosting I dont have a good solution as of yet. Sorry.

EDIT:

Well for me I use Imageshack its 3.99 a month. I reuped and they cut you a deal on a whole year for 37$.

So tried after I seen you did it and now its not working at all lol :wtf:
everything is always harder then it needs to be over here lol

So here's the link and again idk why we cant just post links its hella dumb to have a mod do it for it to work
A2B Swap update - YouTube (https://youtu.be/LBbQhOHNoEc)

Oldblueaccord
12-24-2020, 10:33 AM
So I've tried it a couple time and its not working either tap talk or the site is cockblocking me [emoji58] same with the photos. I have a ton of them but even with the pro tap talk I can't ad half of them. I'll try on my desktop in and see what happens

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/SHAZAM

I cant do anything on a phone either I almost always use a PC.

obd0driver
12-24-2020, 10:36 AM
/SHAZAM

I cant do anything on a phone either I almost always use a PC.I did it from my laptop it didn't work. I literally copied and pasted the embed link to the post and it was dead from the gate. At least with the web link it would allow you to go to the page if post the embed link it just shows as text [emoji2375]

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obd0driver
12-24-2020, 10:41 AM
side note you can see when I post from the app/mobile it says sent from tap talk :banghead:
Thanks for the help tho :bow:

Oldblueaccord
12-24-2020, 10:48 AM
No problem. Merry Christmas.

If you need me to re title something or move some links around just PM me. Ill do my best.

obd0driver
12-24-2020, 10:53 AM
No problem. Merry Christmas.

If you need me to re title something or move some links around just PM me. Ill do my best.Merry Christmas to you as well and definitely will hit next time.

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obd0driver
12-25-2020, 02:46 PM
Ok so it's letting me upload photos today so Merry Christmas. I'll start were I left off yesterday I was able to cut the alternator bracket to make the necessary room for the half staft mounting bracket. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/6a268163c6c7219b6c1964b1a4f5ad53.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/0e5cdd74cb009ba7626979b7a402ea65.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/8d0b0370ec540e9717efcc49008202a7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/9d891e93c6d1ddcf3c7c96004453e1e5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/0a6526c8cf23bf0b64f0ceacbadd2904.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/2eb9d2a08010532c99202cc86e65c4ab.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/e7c40112e3f201a8659a001958e85443.jpg

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obd0driver
12-25-2020, 02:47 PM
Wow ok idk what give but here's more photos of thingshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/e22d3ded7722588b14586b0869710779.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/5a6251f5d346d23078c83d8f78f999f1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/fea48c2e4cc2082a3c8cb1cb1730fc50.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/1ddfde2239cf4b67c849994d52481b52.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/a330e734cac23d51a891daedf11ad42e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/8a2a9de2d971d5048835a781052b7bc9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/ea07688a281639e94515b48f428c6a12.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/bc7cfa3ef5cd2b28d000155cfe9b7e62.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/3c6f541ea0c9f341e525e5aef79fd4c3.jpg

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obd0driver
12-25-2020, 02:49 PM
There were after I cut the whole for the axle. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/99e4fb3289c4cfc1327776ae3e509290.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/fe7d0a8495404cfa0cdb42cf6a66759d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/36c5706d8c08a4cb238dcc6ead9f43ed.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/5cdce64a84a48c6090e3daebfb893ec0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/77dd7df88ce498570daea4fc85298933.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/7471da2513c6de01211947ed1387b147.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/175870bbb92b970c27f95a0f6db9bbb1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/e0c7fec9d2a30cc23914be8ff7c913d5.jpg

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obd0driver
12-25-2020, 04:31 PM
Before and after the holesaw. Also laid the plate with a hole on top of the piece of plexiglass that I had originally made next to the automatic bellhousing so you can see how different the whole is this is what leads me to believe that there would be a difference between the front wheel drive transmission axle placement and all-wheel drive. I'll have to fine a fwd transmission to compare for sure tho. Welp that's all the photos for now. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201226/4ef6144cc0f3fca3262d2109b269c6e4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201226/4bc17f0512b7e38ef3c42a9f9aaf3386.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201226/1097872cdce3ec3f413f2b98d7698d1e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201226/bcc8cc0057dbe35776368d3cfc3feb34.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201226/aaf0c0c7d41039ceb77cdcd3ea15b8bc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201226/15aa477230855e1cfedae120dccec50e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201226/19fd9faf26691c7dc38d97f7de81f44d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201226/7549fc3e9bf7aa60ddf0400fca41bc06.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201226/880d76a85abf6443c1f6c3cae57f0385.jpg

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89T
12-25-2020, 06:07 PM
I'm assuming this area will be tied together?going back and looking at your mounts. That would be no.
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obd0driver
12-25-2020, 11:36 PM
Welp that's up for debate. However I'll point out that the mount you see in the photo is far from done as it literally has a single tac holding it because I'm waiting tell I have the axles and halfshaft plate in on and everything on the car to do and welding in place to make sure the angle is correct. Also not matter what happens the rear mount is every man for themselves as the rear mount wasn't part of the deal with Allen built. The agreement was for plates only so the mount really has nothing to do with the plate itself but more of a exploration of available options. I also have plans to work on making a mount based off my current mounts measurements and dimensions for the template after its welded all the way around but this also depends on final plate design because there may be no need. Also I'll be added the 4 mount of the trans as well which also isn't part of the plate arrangement.

If left open as it is now spacers and/or modifications to the rear mount would make this work for all b series transmissions. The catch would be the ½ spacers and welding to the rear mount. It would be a good thought to just make a rear mount all together if this route is chosen because I can see how you make my mount may be weak if driving crazy hard like your.

But if we have tha area added the plates would have to be specific to each trans as I'm sure the axle placement is different forms one to each other. This route would be easier for the mount as there would be not welding to stock mount but you would have to modify the holes to allow them to fit the larger bolts and the angle. This would be a lot stronger but still also have its probably under hard driving conditions but for most it should be fine.

And the third would could give others opinions as well and that would be to use the b series t bracket. The would require the most modified of them all as you would have to make the rear cross member mount and mostly likely modify the t bracket as well. Spacers would work because would once again allow for the plate to stay the way it is and keep it open for all b series transmissions. But if the part you have outlined is filled there is a possibility that you'll have to modify the mount both at the cross member and at the transmissions to fit. Also only two this would also eliminate 1 of the 4 bolts points where the stock mount would have all 4 of the bolts.

The only other thing I would consider about mounts is that there is still the passenger side transmissions mount which would only add strength and rigidity that wasn't it once there so as much as the rear mount may look or be weak there is the potential to have 4 mounts when the car only have 3. I would imagine that the mount in the Innovative kit could possibly be used in some fashion but I'm sure that much like everyone it will have to be modify and most likely need to be weld in place.

These are my thoughts and observations from what's I've gathered so far. I don't have a t bracket to play with to test that theory and I don't have a innovative passenger side to test that theory but if anyone has a lead on either side it my way and I'll explore them no problems. I was really work on k.i.s.s. thoughts progress. As always hit with your thoughts and insights



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89T
12-26-2020, 06:56 AM
Something like this would cut out all the welding. The last picture was not the final plate.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201226/5f0e7bfd723c8e16a561577c3a829a9b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201226/b9e7edcad7cf4e0358d4c770ed4b273c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201226/3520a785aa22ae1c8ddc3bbf5fc5096c.jpg

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obd0driver
12-26-2020, 08:38 AM
Yes but as you and I have discussed before(in February screen shot for Allen's words not mine ) a mid plate isn't something he would run and from the looks of thing's neither design wouldn't work without modification to it. It would also increase the cost of the plate by at least double because of the add material therefore make the plate that much more unaffordable for everybody else making it less of a option.

Also it looks like a rear mount off the rear cross member would have to be made as well. I see lost of areas where your mid plate and the a2b plate would over lap so you could modified the a2b plate or your mid plate to make it work for your application but having your mid plate and the a2b as one isn't something I see happening. Plus let's face it you are the most capable person to make adjustments or changes to the end result no matter what the final plate is like. Cutting the plate in half then drilling new holes in the mid plate you have made for the b series transmissions shouldn't be as hard and it would be more cost effective than to make the plate itself that much bigger. My suggestion/solution would be to have him send you this plate prototype and you can hack it up more or at least keep the plate design as close to this as possible because it would be plenty easy to
1: use the a2b plate for a template for the bottom half of the transmissions hole's to make the necessary changes to your mid plate.
2: after the holes are drilled just cut plate in half and use the top part to mate the motor and transmissions together.

Only problem I see is the axle hole is different for each transmissions do you would have to cut your mid plate to accommodate for what ever transmissions axle placement. You also still have the ability to add a 4th mount with would help support the weight of thing's and help reduce the movement some which may help you in the grand scheme of things. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201226/6349235bf1c6b18dd3f8f6a21adfb879.jpg

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89T
12-28-2020, 08:02 AM
Yes but as you and I have discussed before(in February screen shot for Allen's words not mine ) a mid plate isn't something he would run and from the looks of thing's neither design wouldn't work without modification to it. It would also increase the cost of the plate by at least double because of the add material therefore make the plate that much more unaffordable for everybody else making it less of a option.

Also it looks like a rear mount off the rear cross member would have to be made as well. I see lost of areas where your mid plate and the a2b plate would over lap so you could modified the a2b plate or your mid plate to make it work for your application but having your mid plate and the a2b as one isn't something I see happening. Plus let's face it you are the most capable person to make adjustments or changes to the end result no matter what the final plate is like. Cutting the plate in half then drilling new holes in the mid plate you have made for the b series transmissions shouldn't be as hard and it would be more cost effective than to make the plate itself that much bigger. My suggestion/solution would be to have him send you this plate prototype and you can hack it up more or at least keep the plate design as close to this as possible because it would be plenty easy to
1: use the a2b plate for a template for the bottom half of the transmissions hole's to make the necessary changes to your mid plate.
2: after the holes are drilled just cut plate in half and use the top part to mate the motor and transmissions together.

Only problem I see is the axle hole is different for each transmissions do you would have to cut your mid plate to accommodate for what ever transmissions axle placement. You also still have the ability to add a 4th mount with would help support the weight of thing's and help reduce the movement some which may help you in the grand scheme of things. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201226/6349235bf1c6b18dd3f8f6a21adfb879.jpg

Sent from my SM-N986U using TapatalkThe mid plate I built is for the a20 transmission. I could re-drill the plate for the b-series though.

Or I could just make a full a2b plate. Just need time to do it.


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obd0driver
01-24-2021, 11:45 AM
Welp shit happens people lag but better late then pregnant. Awd transmission delivered to Allen built on Friday. Had a short conversation with him about what else is needed on my side and he said he needs nothing else from me to make the adjustments and/or redesign the plate. So we wait. S/O tdurr for pulling the trigger on the trans for his a2b swap making this possible[emoji1488]

Now that that's been said y'all better get your money right because this pretty much is a done deal. The a2b plate will be based off the AWD transmission. Just because is AWD doesn't mean you have to go awd. You can pull the transfer case and cap the space were it go's in and run it FWD. Doing so will be close to running a LS FWD trans. There some specific reasons why this was the final choice.

Cable shift link making it's easier to run then rod linkage. More space for larger 3in+ exhaust. You can also stuff the exhaust higher up giving you more ground clearance for those that want to be slammed.

The option for both AWD and FWD

Price of the AWD vs GSR/Type are transmission is cheaper. This will allow for people to spend money on other things like LSD, replacement shift Fork to have the ability to run front wheel drive gear sets in the awd transmission, And better gears sets like straight cut or dog box gears over stock gears. In the end you'll have a much better overall built trans vs a stock used trans.

And most importantly fitment. The awd transmission just flat out fits better without other modifications to the chassis. Compared to the FWD transmission the AWD fit like it was meant to be there. The FWD trans was laying on the torsion arm coming off the front crossmember. Meaning everyone would have get a traction bar to clear it vs being able to run what you got. Secondly the rear mount fitment is much better. Now that isn't to say that you can use the stock mount without modification but that the AWD trans lines up better so with modifications the stock mount can be made to work without completely redesigning the rear mount for the Fwd trans. These two things save money and make it easier for everyone. I will continue to work on a better mount but for those with a grinder, cut off wheel and a someone who welds you could make the mount for dollars at home.

After market parts are plentiful for the awd transmission just like the FWD and if you swap out the shift Fork all the same gear options are available for the awd transmission.

Now none of this means that the plate won't work for both but that awd will be a sure thing first. I will talk to Allen about making it work for both if it's possible on the same plate but I wanted to give guys this good news. I'm sure I left things out but yeah some progress https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210124/fee9b02064354ffe7d7045ee33ab71d3.jpg

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89T
01-26-2021, 05:40 AM
Welp shit happens people lag but better late then pregnant. Awd transmission delivered to Allen built on Friday. Had a short conversation with him about what else is needed on my side and he said he needs nothing else from me to make the adjustments and/or redesign the plate. So we wait. S/O tdurr for pulling the trigger on the trans for his a2b swap making this possible[emoji1488]

Now that that's been said y'all better get your money right because this pretty much is a done deal. The a2b plate will be based off the AWD transmission. Just because is AWD doesn't mean you have to go awd. You can pull the transfer case and cap the space were it go's in and run it FWD. Doing so will be close to running a LS FWD trans. There some specific reasons why this was the final choice.

Cable shift link making it's easier to run then rod linkage. More space for larger 3in+ exhaust. You can also stuff the exhaust higher up giving you more ground clearance for those that want to be slammed.

The option for both AWD and FWD

Price of the AWD vs GSR/Type are transmission is cheaper. This will allow for people to spend money on other things like LSD, replacement shift Fork to have the ability to run front wheel drive gear sets in the awd transmission, And better gears sets like straight cut or dog box gears over stock gears. In the end you'll have a much better overall built trans vs a stock used trans.

And most importantly fitment. The awd transmission just flat out fits better without other modifications to the chassis. Compared to the FWD transmission the AWD fit like it was meant to be there. The FWD trans was laying on the torsion arm coming off the front crossmember. Meaning everyone would have get a traction bar to clear it vs being able to run what you got. Secondly the rear mount fitment is much better. Now that isn't to say that you can use the stock mount without modification but that the AWD trans lines up better so with modifications the stock mount can be made to work without completely redesigning the rear mount for the Fwd trans. These two things save money and make it easier for everyone. I will continue to work on a better mount but for those with a grinder, cut off wheel and a someone who welds you could make the mount for dollars at home.

After market parts are plentiful for the awd transmission just like the FWD and if you swap out the shift Fork all the same gear options are available for the awd transmission.

Now none of this means that the plate won't work for both but that awd will be a sure thing first. I will talk to Allen about making it work for both if it's possible on the same plate but I wanted to give guys this good news. I'm sure I left things out but yeah some progress https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210124/fee9b02064354ffe7d7045ee33ab71d3.jpg

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I'm ready to pick one up when they come available

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obd0driver
01-26-2021, 08:42 AM
What's the time-line for completion?
I'm ready to pick one up when they come available

Sent from my SM-G981U using TapatalkI'm gonna hold back the eta because I always end up putting me foot in my mouth when I do. But it's gonna sooner then later I'll get a better idea by the end of the week. Side if you already reached out to Allen with you email and contact information for the a2b plate and your name is on the list you will get contacted first. But from the previous discussion about this all plates will have to paid for before he runs any of them you as soon as I get the word or you guys are emailed don't lag on sending payment otherwise it will slow thing down more.

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obd0driver
02-02-2021, 09:54 AM
He's the foot for mouth. Eta a few weeks https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210202/21a061e9914eeef2348a47b0ffb0cdd6.jpg

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obd0driver
04-02-2021, 08:20 AM
Update from last week [emoji51][emoji849] he has everything so the ball is really in his court. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210402/e02eb28b3712758a65de844fd9416af7.jpg

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Oldblueaccord
04-02-2021, 08:42 AM
Sounds like a job opportunity for you...learn CNC work.

obd0driver
04-02-2021, 08:46 AM
Sounds like a job opportunity for you...learn CNC work.Yeah except for I don't have space for a CNC machine and he's on the other side of the map from me how many California he's in Virginia[emoji2377] and that's what I paid him for sooooooo I wait

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Oldblueaccord
04-02-2021, 02:55 PM
Ah ok sorry I thought he was Socal like you.

obd0driver
04-04-2021, 07:37 AM
I'm in norcal lol ahahahaha Oakland ca not LA and there even a 6 hr drive from each other. But wish he was closer

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obd0driver
04-04-2021, 07:38 AM
Soooooo this will shed light on what and how the clutch cable to hydro setup should be.

AWD BUILD 4: Custom Hasport Cable to Hydro Conversion - YouTube (https://youtu.be/ThOzFJHw0s0)

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Dr_Snooz
04-04-2021, 12:50 PM
Hope your guy gets his act together soon.

obd0driver
04-04-2021, 01:14 PM
Hope your guy gets his act together soon.Yeah he got big and better cnc mills and shit too so on the bright side of things he is able to make a the plate just bigger and all one piece. But that are making Billet blocks and Trans parts now as well. If you follow the ig page you can see that they are pretty busy.

Login • Instagram (https://instagram.com/allenbuiltracing?igshid=t77r42gr6qly)

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obd0driver
04-04-2021, 01:19 PM
Hope your guy gets his act together soon.Side note on the Feb 28th he was looking for new employees [emoji2377]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210404/f5d46d9cf660e51f05770182d1fc545f.jpg

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obd0driver
04-05-2021, 06:22 PM
Cable Hydro kits securedhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210406/4e9497fee6d47fb79a273d8218cbccf4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210406/c83e03625af7cb535446758eeadd5830.jpg

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obd0driver
04-06-2021, 09:20 PM
Welp knew the mount would fit not a big loss but the linkage works out nice and I sure I can cut this cable holder bracket to use it to weld to the new mount once I get that worked out. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210407/f839d7e6163b3d62ada4cb5cc0b316a8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210407/134b91437a1c0188d8b30af8fb72da7d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210407/be4b5a6f28003a48959263853b63d60b.jpg

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obd0driver
06-17-2021, 08:14 PM
Oh hi [emoji1480] ok good bye https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210618/4c9d4b8b4a7832031a002292745824b9.jpg

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obd0driver
08-20-2021, 02:00 PM
So it's been a minute since last up of the plate being ready. Here some the latest.

First there was a pick of miscommunication on my side about picking up or having the plate shipped out to me. Of part of that is that tdurr was in the working in the area needs to pick up his AWD transmission from Allen so he can have is space back but he's been lagging on that and once that's done the plate will be shipped out to me. We're working on that part.

A big advancement way made on the clutch cables bracket tho. Around the time tdurr went to the shop to meet Allen to make Arrangements to pick/shipped the trans I was able to meet up with my friend Dana aka youngstatic(on YT) at a meet in middle if July near my house. I asked about the clutch cable bracket that is meant for awd b series transmissions cable to hydro conversion kit. I think I posted a video from is yt channel[emoji848]. It shows his progress making one a couple years ago and he's been asked many times to make them of other people he said we was going to make a couple and one would have my name on it. Well this weekend he's going make good on his word and I'll be picking up my bracket on Sunday at the Northern California EF vs DA meet at the same spot by my place. So long story long that's where we're at with all things a2b related.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210820/cab0d8ac3558799dce6550f76b505915.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210820/d1f23616745e6e04b329456f26f7a898.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210820/6d756057e40a918657272d0a6a377af0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210820/d0d9d0ca7d9120786f9d3722c7779e2e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210820/6819f7f93fbeee3bd357a92be1b4a35e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210820/b59a672a7ccb1a98345b2f2db2b80ebd.jpg

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obd0driver
08-23-2021, 10:05 PM
Welp I picked up the first of many clutch cable brackets that Dana will produce for the awd hydro conversion. Here some photos to compare the differences from what comes in the kit and what he make. As far as durability goes Dana drives a heavily modified(by himself) awd crx among other ef civic builds. The car has been dd for over 3 years with the bracket. He's running a twin disk clutch and he just took 3rd place in the 11.90 index at racewars over the weekend. So there's no doubt this will work and hold up to anything we can toss at it. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210824/1c3e9f1e05beb5cfc6ba3e2d2f4fcf04.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210824/4f31641d79c541de6fc640f208a2c295.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210824/01bbf8ef9fdef42b55978988dcd91bb9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210824/4dc31d8530f59c17a804c7a119ffacd3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210824/8c68080d454ca4713ddc02e0315d6818.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210824/362aa7bef1e16e6336a69f15647a0bbf.jpg

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obd0driver
08-26-2021, 07:58 PM
Ok so good news bad news. Bad news is that the prototype plate also needs to be clearance for the starter but it will be fixed on the final run already reached out to Allen and sent the measurements he asked for to make the changes required. Good news in next post.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210827/c69a90f584ba809785b1da9eb34c62ad.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210827/8b9b295c8de6c50761e3e3b6d90467e0.jpg

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obd0driver
08-26-2021, 08:08 PM
Good news. Pulled the carpet out and cut the some of the sound mat off the firewall so that I could cut a hole to run the cable for the shifter. The basic concept here is the cables can trun and slightly bend but should be as straight as possible with in reason. The straighter the more smoothly the shifting will be. Other then that it's really up to you how and where to cut it. So I cut mine and I probably could have cut more towards the driver side but I wanted it in the flattest spot people to make easier to mount the shift cable grommet and plate I picked up. So here's the damage.

Here's the link to the plate grommet I got.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Billet-Firewall-Shifter-Cable-Grommet-For-Civic-Integra-w-K-Series-Swap-New-/274357439333?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210827/38dce2bdd6d1515427736333eb5295c4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210827/e9ed2a3d626de120e971cee941d88a18.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210827/6c63546a1078c97ff612afddf131d077.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210827/7b88dcc20655ed3ffede140918b1a1f5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210827/a0ebde8ef3a25033e4e2f9cfaeac352d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210827/34ec23df95de6514fa609f6c58b8415e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210827/b103777e19bb9b66b8b8cf8198d0b037.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210827/76faa66d91f50432e5a0669af1923a60.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210827/bfa1dae88d5c298ecb54e9b27cc016d8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210827/55f61d838ea3c0249ffe2c44334525fc.jpg

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obd0driver
08-31-2021, 12:19 PM
Welp had a chance over the last couple of days to work on getting the starter to fit so I able to put the cable bracket on. Use a holesaw and dermal to trim it tell it fit nicely. Bolted up the clutch cable bracket that Dana makes and put the stock accord cable on to test fitment. At the time of the photos I was waiting for my parts to show up so the angle of the cable was a bit off because I didn't have a shifter fork installed But the Parts showed up last night after I was in emt/firefighter night class. The photos from Dana's setup the correct angle of the cable so you guys can see how it works when 100% assembled.

I also fitted the shifter cable grommet mount. I will say a couple things for anyone that's gonna attempt this. First is that the cables don't bend much and shouldn't for that matter so the hole placement is important. If I could change things I would go just a bit higher up. But you want it to be on the flattest spot/surface you can put to help with laying the cable grommet mount flatland get the cables a straight shot so it fits in the grommet better. Now with the being said you could always cut the factory grommet off and flip to angle the cable though the grommet at a slanted angle if you choose and save yourself $15ish. But what is done is done and I can use either one so [emoji2377].

I also talked with tdurr and he's talking about making his way to Allen over the holiday weekend to pick up the parts so thing's are moving along nicely right now. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210831/883100a185f7907466a5a17206557ef6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210831/57e9fb9636fdca26b29fbed3030da7e2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210831/967ec99684fc81abc90fd6e55179df19.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210831/70a6cc82ce634f823b0a943e0900646c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210831/a1cb6c770b35e4e2aece1cd7b9c407f6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210831/8fc0ca74d64bc04258155848f3d180c4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210831/72ce2695dd15f52bd13759022719734d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210831/fcad90b84703b30d169be61157daa5a9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210831/abd106d5f41f744ecf6dc5eaeed667a7.jpg

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obd0driver
09-04-2021, 08:57 PM
Ok here is the latest on all things a2b. I had some time to work on getting the shifter mounted. Basically used the stock shifter plate and drill holes in it and made the plate to bolt the shifter to the stock plate. So Basically everything bolt up securely and the shifter runs the grears properly just need to put the clutch fork on to fully test it. I'll probably cut a new plate without the center hole in it. Out of some flat plate but for now it's function is pretty good in his operational and that's good enough for me to move on to the next part.
Side note I would post a video clip of the shifter working but have had time to cut the video together and upload it to yt so stand by I'll have something for you shortly. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210905/fcd3c226c966fcae5843a05b091c9367.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210905/6bf28871bbe928457b1a15f820ade1a0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210905/8533c1757261c56d2d0ab70f9e0f7a67.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210905/d5788756763e5bf47b3b5e014bb8e370.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210905/bc26ae84b2002f11cd8f956eab67a955.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210905/b2bb323f151ea4d8aa1d8c43d038f116.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210905/01b339e6709b2db329dbfd2c660abcf1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210905/3b266dc5241397facbed16e02d3a805a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210905/0caf4abe811f4c09e747f9976742b1c2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210905/cdae10a3ccbb98119fd4336904118b48.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210905/197cbfabb1bfc618946acec72619025c.jpg

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obd0driver
09-04-2021, 09:05 PM
Speaking of which I was able to meet with a member near me to pick up b series mount swap kit so I could see the placement of the trans mounts position compared to the the cable mount that it came with its pretty close but way out at the same time. So a mount would have to be made but here is a quick look at how close it was. So it was worth a shot I guess worst case scenario I can just t fully be swap my car if this fails miserably lol ahahahaha https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210905/94490f6b99376022db06617b0c92c7ae.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210905/5b97a8021736af90696862d2697ea3d0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210905/a47b377731824e71f95cd1a41de72521.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210905/f666f8ac8aab13cedd1c2f5aa032caef.jpg

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obd0driver
09-21-2021, 03:16 PM
So after some more thought and playing around I think I can make something work for a trans mount. A combination of the ef hydro conversion mount and the b series transmissions bracket and we get this close. Would have to cut the mount and drill a second hole for the second bolts on the trans but this is very close. The hydro mount for the Ef is two pieces made from the mount and the bottom plate its bolts to so there is a good possibility the a simple flat plate mounts can bee made to work the the post mounts part of the hydro mount. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210921/a2692d1dd1053b239b4bf01252b93419.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210921/c5cb2f8b1c011017c8fb53a21956b18b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210921/ab05413e80e5cc01649ad473fdd7df57.jpg

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conozo
09-22-2021, 05:28 PM
How does that B series starter bolt up. Our A series i think one bolt goes into the engine block, is it the same for the this setup?

obd0driver
10-04-2021, 11:49 AM
So the starter blots to the transmission not the block or a2b plate in anyway. The b series had and threaded mount area for the starter it's been a while since I looked at the a series but I'm sure that it's the same. The only real difference here is the location of the starter. It's now on the top in the front vs on the back or middle because of the awd transmission. Other then that nothing here really changes.

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obd0driver
10-05-2021, 08:00 PM
Update......
Ok so I've lagged a bit but after selling off some parts I had laying around I've made the decision to just have the a2b plate and a awd transmission shipped from Allen to me. Once I get the plate I'll be able to test fits it for final dimensions and they will be ready to roll out. The plate I get will not have the starter hole cut in as it was something that I hadn't tested at the time of production but I've since cuts and cleared on the the prototype plate already. This has been brought to his attention and will be sorted out before the roll out to everyone that is planning on getting one. The plate and trans should be at my buddy's shop I'm the next couple weeks I'll keep you postedhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211006/c02a17da00d837aa3d69be44f7ffd4b8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211006/407cce8d0964f1129582ba595296b904.jpg

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obd0driver
10-13-2021, 10:05 AM
Quick update https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211013/8a0b14561cdf0ea604aec9a807f15712.jpg

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obd0driver
10-18-2021, 03:22 PM
Welp I hit Allen up to see where the plate was and as he text me back I'm getting call from my buddy at his shop saying hey are you expecting a delivery today lol ahahahaha so the trans plate and block made it today. Now to take everything back out/test fit everything again/finish the rear mount and make the intermediate half shaft mount. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211018/8487568a7fd5b77792e336fe518ac673.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211018/8f9bc3626aebcfa17510f5de2cfab1cf.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211018/0257e27d34725b89c0e59dbfd5b9a85e.jpg

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obd0driver
10-25-2021, 07:41 PM
Ok so I'm a little slow to update here but the my homie Dana also faster then 99% of the people I've dealt with to date. Now that all gushing and love fest is over here is it a2b plate with intermediate half shaft mounted. At this point the only thing left swap everything out and test so the hard work. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211026/452634b5ea2ac3bbe382cb5acc106635.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211026/374e85eea153bf2220111665e438359f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211026/4cedcaaf0c634eeae49d299bbb4e48ba.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211026/42ad491b424b46f5b19328fd323266e2.jpg

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obd0driver
10-27-2021, 09:56 PM
Picked the parts back up tonight. Guess I got work to do. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211028/92cbf545ecf3e82f404058ecc287be4b.jpg

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obd0driver
11-06-2021, 07:16 PM
Had some time today to test fitment the halfshaft mount plate in the car today after I went the jy and pulled a 3rd awd transmission shifter cable's halfshaft and start because you can never have to many spare parts.

So here's some photos of everything mounted up in the engine bay. I put a Alternator and ITM on as well to show the clearance of everything. You'll see that there is plenty of room for the plate and the halfshaft just have to get a set of axles to put in then but at this point is clear that they will fit without hitting anything. I'll me making a couple videos and posting them YT later for your viewing pleasure. But for now enjoy [emoji1488]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211107/66e157c4e7dddcb2a675836362a2bcf9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211107/7bc60831666510dea56d4aef5e45ad20.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211107/aca643065332d9050807d39f1d645bb4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211107/224410d6509a6711147d71f34b8bd738.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211107/e82e0ed8614adb45c91251d61713ce7b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211107/9cb1cee4912f31a8258de6a1de8e740c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211107/58a33a523acb17c4cdfb1d63370c0317.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211107/a9c45037b1659bcda59fd53769362b4d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211107/20672ae978a1aa7e7c448333cc96b2a3.jpg

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obd0driver
11-06-2021, 08:02 PM
Almost forgot to mention that I got that I also was give a drive line so that should help figuring out how possible it would be to run awd.[emoji2377]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211107/d6a8fb1de6904045218cfc94cfd49796.jpg

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obd0driver
11-11-2021, 10:24 PM
Update video drops in the morning for those that want to see video footage
https://youtu.be/fO0Lizd6dLs

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obd0driver
11-15-2021, 12:04 PM
Surprise YT drop from the homie Dana.
A bit of knowledge and insight on the halfshaft mount. Check it out

https://youtu.be/l9cbMmdSZUA

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obd0driver
11-17-2021, 11:17 PM
Stamp of approval from Mr 9s a2b himself Jason budd. Well at least his wife that is. Must be doing something right because they never reply and I always keep him posted on my progress since he gave me the info https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211118/2fbdf11ed4bd5870a28cf9f9cffb51e5.jpg

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obd0driver
11-19-2021, 04:34 PM
Axles https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211120/192691aa484f1c70d2c26edaed099c54.jpg

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obd0driver
11-21-2021, 11:25 PM
Had a bit of time to test fit the drivers side axle today. I had the option of two different lengths tested longer one first and it was about 1in maybe two too long. The second shorter one fit like it was meant to be. Oem integra axles ftw. Here is the photo of it Installed I'll work on the other side in coming days. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211122/57ceea6c95253d01666d6f4c8e4481b2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211122/40b9bb974c7f35a8da888d3114d1011a.jpg

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obd0driver
11-23-2021, 12:29 AM
So here's a back to the future post. This shot weeks ago when I posted the photos of the shifter mounted. I finally got around to editing the video footage so enjoy.

https://youtu.be/upX1CWBAXc0

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obd0driver
11-24-2021, 08:44 PM
I got axle 2 in yesterday so side of the rear mount needing to be remade to fit the new plate and notching the front mount most of the fab work is out of them way just a functional test drive is need after the last two mount parts are workedout. But for a test drive to happen I'll have to finish assembly of my boosted motor[emoji849][emoji2377] so if it's not one thing it's another with me. So tbchttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211125/a590d0e19f39b681fee73bcbf8f66d5a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211125/1b1d521b4ba93c9e9b2539e37cff9865.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211125/45323ebbc6d14a122e31846bf9fab213.jpg

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obd0driver
12-21-2021, 06:32 PM
Finally got around to making and posting the latest video update so here you guys go.

https://youtu.be/k4F4YjfOiCw

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obd0driver
01-29-2022, 12:23 PM
Okay, so quick update, so I was able to swap everything out and put it all back together and drop in the car. I had to modify the front mount just a bit to get that mount 100% bolted down but its in now. Drivers' side mount 100% bolts in nothing changed there. Rear mount the top two bolts, and one of the bottom bolts are in so that 3 out of 4 there, I'll call that 75% but even with just those 3 boltded up and rest of the mounts the motor doesn't move at all. If you recall, the rear mount is the one that needs heavy modifications and/or redesign. This I plan to work more on with Dana Prum in the near future.
I've tested the shifter now that everything is bolt up and sitting in the bay correctly. The shifter is smooth, fuild, and responsive. The clutch cable bracket work and hydro to cable conversion kit work's great. The pedal is stiff from the exedy stage 1 clutch kit and flywheel but smooth and responsive like stock.

At this point, the only thing holding the a2b from being 100% is a test drive. The plate itself doesn't seem to need any other modifications outside of the starter holes cut during production, which will be done.

The test drive will happen as soon as I get my car together, which I've been working on all week. Here are some photos to hold you guys over. I'm editing a video and have one more video to make after. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220129/e58561abad7083fee26b1ef777e58fba.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220129/ba0290a5718e54be130d62f1e16e0670.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220129/37558f0787d432d61d5eb6422492a95e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220129/1f1d443886c7df67090518c48db6d13b.jpg

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obd0driver
02-07-2022, 11:42 AM
Here is the latest on the A2B setup. Getting closer and closer

https://youtu.be/ap_qdaxrYps

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obd0driver
03-01-2022, 08:12 PM
Well, I'm putting the final touches on the project. Here is the last thing needed. To make room for the intermediate half and the mount plate, the black box has to be deleted, and the oil returns neck needed to be cut off and then welded shut. Now, for me, this is a problem because I planned to delete the black box and run a catch can anyway as my build it's going boosted.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220302/6152ee38c6ea673d6251b1e1bd4329e8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220302/15e04725da4ad1b0a4b433dd81663d5c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220302/53a179a5ed69113917bdbecaec44f33d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220302/448b393bbdbcbf437e706f4ec794ce9e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220302/2aba97ec6882f267c2dddbbb36b70f6f.jpg

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obd0driver
04-24-2022, 11:13 PM
Man I have updated this in a while sorry about that definitely more on top of fb and yt but a lot has happened over the weekend and there will be a video to go with it all but for now the latest is that everything is in the car mounted bolted up and ready to go.
mounts have been redesign/made and fitted/welded to the car so there is no going back, starter engagement has be tested and is functioning properly, shifter cables functional, Clutch cable to hydro conversion functional. But the car doesn't start so I'm not able to test drive it at this point. As mentioned before the car was taken to my friend Dana aka youngstatic on yt to have some work done related to a2b and my turbo setup so I could get ot dyno tuned. That did go as planned but all the a2b stuff was taken of. The car cranks but didn't start so no test drive yet. More on that in a yt video but for now here's the photos https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220425/b0865da204243fadf34fab366e36b31f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220425/c583b3f04d628d9137544a67fd79998b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220425/2544a8059f7be56e54a32b60bb1f884b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220425/437a1449113cb43577385936cd7c8dfc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220425/179254991cbae83fe0e609f592bb17f4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220425/df8b74c4d179ecd6fd195ecf25ba36b5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220425/d7ffa0691415f717757ed1c73c2ffeef.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220425/bc264c8f637f747712899f1e433da95e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220425/456219d3097675daa56fe47f55d8e89c.jpg

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ShiRen
04-25-2022, 04:35 AM
I hope you get it running soon, its currently fwd though right?

What is left in the process of releasing the tranny adapter plate? Is it going to be released solely through your fabricator or are you going to be able to release a dxf file so anyone can make it if the send it in somewhere like sendcutsend?

obd0driver
04-25-2022, 06:03 AM
I hope you get it running soon, its currently fwd though right?

What is left in the process of releasing the tranny adapter plate? Is it going to be released solely through your fabricator or are you going to be able to release a dxf file so anyone can make it if the send it in somewhere like sendcutsend?Yeah its fwd right now. The awd stuff is gonna be a while as I'm gonna need to develop a lot of parts for the rear end. I'm sure I'll have get rid of the double wish bone rear suspension to make something work and a whole Lott more.

As far as the plates go. Allen built will produce them once I tell it's a go only thing stop that us a test drive. I want to be 100% it's gonna to work before I give him the word. But as far as the plate goes there's nothing really stopping them from getting ran as is

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ShiRen
04-25-2022, 11:30 AM
What about fwd trans compatibility? Starter is in a different location, so if anyone wants that should we just forgo the starter hole in the current design or leave it and cut a new one? I for one am wanting an S80/Y80/S4C trans and I want to keep the shift linkage. I think everything else looks good in terms of compatibility

Did you end up using a stock mount for the trans or what is that? I see the custom part you welded to the frame.

And mainly the steps to do the swap are:
Add passenger side mount bracket to frame
Modify rear mount
Modify alternator bracket and sump drain for jackshaft
Mount made for jack shaft
Fit integra axles
Shifter depends on awd or fwd
fwd trans need a traction bar

obd0driver
05-02-2022, 09:52 PM
So the video I'll post after this will clear things up about the side mount so check it out then we can go over that more in depth if need be. Dana just posted a video about my car and some to things I got going on to his yt today.

As far as fwd vs awd stuff is concerned I will make this as simple as I can and have stated before you can remain fwd with the awd transmission/case. You don't have to go awd to use the awd transmission case. If you would like to use a fwd gears stack you can put that in the awd case and remove the transfer case from the transmission and block off the hole. There is only one part you need to make this possible. It's the speed factory awd to fwd Shift Fork replacement. Every thing else with a2b would the same you just install the Fork can swap out the gear stack that simple. Need to redesign the plate or use different Shift linkage, cut new starter holes ect. I've mentioned this in past post (or at least I have on the fb thread).


As far as the list yeah you got it 90% right. The axels are gonna be thing that kinda of tricky but not really. The halfshaft side is dependent on the what halfshaft you run. If you have a teg you can run a teg axel if you have a crv you'll need a crv axle. Kinda straight forward. Passenger side would be a crv however you can fit a teg axel in a crv Transmission sooooooo technically speaking you could run either. For example I have crv Passenger side axel and the halfshaft is from a teg because at the time I didn't have a crv halfshaft to use so I have to use a teg drive side axel. But I can swap the halfshaft to a crv then use the just crv axels. However I would have to make new mount because the halfshaft mount holes are slightly different. Seeing how this is up the each person(maybe working with Dana to make mass produce them both) that's really up to you.

Other then that you got it spot on. I just would focus on the awd vs fwd transmission so much because there is a work around that make this setup usable either way its most fit of the bell housing and rear mount and clearance in the bay that make the awd case more useful in the long run. Even if you plan to fwd only if you later want to join the awd crowd you can and still keep you fwd gearing with a single part.

https://www.speedfactoryracing.net/collections/awd/products/speedfactory-b-series-fwd2awd-transmission-conversion-kit

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obd0driver
05-02-2022, 09:52 PM
https://youtu.be/5Bp_IgCrM5A

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obd0driver
05-28-2022, 08:31 PM
So I got the car running today I even test rolled it 5 feet I'm 1st and 5 feet In reverse. Steps closer to a road test.
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obd0driver
06-15-2022, 08:16 AM
And we have a test drive. A2b is fully functional. the car needs a tune so I wasn't able to really drive it drive it but here is one of a couple trips around my neighborhood. At this point there is nothing really left to say/do. It works this is proof of concept. I can most likely have Allen roll the plates out just have to let him know.

https://youtu.be/8jbKCQj3muM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jbKCQj3muM

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conozo
06-15-2022, 05:59 PM
Catching up on your post. Great work, quite a build going on there too.

obd0driver
06-17-2022, 08:01 AM
Here's me mine post. This is really just a2b related and from here its really just gonna be updates on the plates rollout and those that do the swap themselves. Not much else to add well tell I make it awd but that's forward new topic post

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/topic?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2E3geez%2Ecom%2Fforum% 2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D59851&share_tid=59851&share_fid=56676&share_type=t&link_source=app

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obd0driver
03-21-2024, 09:36 PM
Two years later and still doing A2B stuff. [emoji2377] Welp progress. Big s/o Seth Witte for helping me step my game up in a major way. Update coming soon. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240322/bffe0204879c3ce588a60a4bd88f8bc2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240322/88d95fb9247c90e8853b75c8a5cbb7b4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240322/67c70697e0a1a42ba47ffb6934a8b009.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240322/47383a10cfaa6772b60b07620e16448a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240322/e5e6838b25fd761824fc1d5d610fddd7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240322/4c524062ef93b8a56aa8516a0124b200.jpg

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Oldblueaccord
03-21-2024, 10:22 PM
Glad its moving along!

obd0driver
03-21-2024, 10:30 PM
Glad its moving along!I mean really it's been done like it works and I drove my car with the setup but I just can't leave well enough alone. The files is just for shits and giggles not sure what's the plan after that.. most likely post it up for grabs but if anyone wants to make me assemble weld them together I'd be down for a fee. He's also making a shifter mount so that the shifter will be a bolt on process as well. So with any luck by years end the A2B plate will be an A2B transmission kit making the process more streamlined for the next person.

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