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mkymonkey
11-19-2006, 01:35 PM
check it out....kinda cool (http://cars.ign.com/articles/746/746047p1.html)

speedpenguin
11-19-2006, 01:40 PM
Wow we are drifting anything these days. That is AWESOME!

gosse
11-19-2006, 01:48 PM
it look like a fucking famili wagon?? no go man.. ive thing they could make a kit to put on older honda cars and test it make it possiple to drive on the road in all countries.. could find it fun to make my old 87 accord aerodeck rear weel droven.. think it could be a good drifting car..
MY appoinion: ugly!!!
V6: me like

hmmm yeah!! just dont like it haha.. but think new cars look like odd.

A18A
11-19-2006, 01:51 PM
that car is just too ugly, looks like a that's :barf: props for making it drift though... lol

89l_x_i
11-19-2006, 02:08 PM
So the element isnt the nicest looking car out there but a 3.2l twin turbo v6 rwd build by HONDA? Where do i sign for one lol seriously i would not care that the 500hp came in the form of an element it would be the ultimate sleeper.

Jasonf860
11-19-2006, 02:32 PM
My brother has an 03' element... we've been toying with trying to fit the 3.5 v6 into it... he saw this and freaked! I'm thinking engine swap for his element REAL soon!

Cheeseburger
11-19-2006, 02:55 PM
that looks sick!

jschatte
11-19-2006, 06:40 PM
its not much to look at, but that engine is AWSOME! 500hp from a 3.2L V6?

mr eff
11-19-2006, 06:50 PM
500 hp doesn't seem like something most "kids" can afford. i think the civic's popularity, as was noted in the article, was due mostly to the price point.

orange is for safety!

ghettogeddy
11-19-2006, 07:02 PM
lol
it looks top heavy

drago742
11-19-2006, 07:28 PM
it looked iight the color was hot tho

A20A1
11-19-2006, 07:51 PM
I like it. I think Toyota should show them up and make a drift XB

MessyHonda
11-19-2006, 08:38 PM
honda FTW....screw the xb....lots of owner think they got a fast car...i took one in 2nd gear when i was stock...and learning how to drive stick

Pico
11-19-2006, 08:40 PM
Thats tight. I want one :D

frantik
11-19-2006, 08:55 PM
damn and people call 3geez boxy

hotdoghogie
11-19-2006, 09:29 PM
i love it...lol...

nice car btw mr eff... now i know what my car will look like with the rims im getting for christmas

gp02a0083
11-19-2006, 09:34 PM
ugh first off i hate the elements ! second drift mini vans isnt new , look on youtube they drift those egg nissan vans kinda funny

A18A
11-19-2006, 09:43 PM
damn and people call 3geez boxy
lol i was thinking the same thing

snoopyloopy
11-19-2006, 09:48 PM
honda FTW....screw the xb....lots of owner think they got a fast car...i took one in 2nd gear when i was stock...and learning how to drive stick
lol...if i'm not mistaken, the xb comes with like a 114 hp engine. oh, and btw, going off-topic now. did you ever find out what those cf eyelids were for? did they look like these? these are for a 5g accord.
http://images.andale.com/f2/123/104/13418839/1116392435078_EB_ACD94g.jpg

MessyHonda
11-19-2006, 10:03 PM
^^^thanks man^^^^...ima to test fix them on a car down my street i knoe the girl so she would not mind....lol

A18A
11-19-2006, 10:06 PM
i told you it was for a 5th gen :)

ilikevtecs
11-19-2006, 10:21 PM
hey it gets the job done

Tomisimo
11-20-2006, 08:40 AM
Thet car loocks like Oldmobile, something for old ppl to go shoping. :rant:
I woldent take it for free if someone ofered me one.

MessyHonda
11-20-2006, 08:42 AM
Thet car loocks like Oldmobile, something for old ppl to go shoping. :rant:
I woldent take it for free if someone ofered me one.

i would...then i would sell it to some ricer and use the money to do an engine swap on mine.

A18A
11-20-2006, 09:20 AM
i would...then i would sell it to some ricer and use the money to do an engine swap on mine.
lol that is the exact same thing i would have said, except buy a better 3gee instead hehe

Chef Boyardee
11-20-2006, 09:53 AM
I'd hit it.

HostileJava
11-20-2006, 10:28 AM
I'm impressed with the engineering that went into it, but disappointed in the choice of vehicle. Maybe they are just trying to bring the Japanese wagon scene to the US though?

LiTtLe xOx BitT
11-20-2006, 10:40 AM
I'm impressed with the engineering that went into it, but disappointed in the choice of vehicle. Maybe they are just trying to bring the Japanese wagon scene to the US though?
I dont like the choice of vehicle either, its kind of like a minivan and no one wants a hooked up van, lol.

A18A
11-20-2006, 10:42 AM
haha yeah, would make me think of one of those batmobile hiaces drifting

HostileJava
11-20-2006, 10:50 AM
I dont like the choice of vehicle either, its kind of like a minivan and no one wants a hooked up van, lol.

:bandance: :bandance: :bandance:


JK JK:)

cubert
11-20-2006, 10:50 AM
if i wanted a rwd box with 500 hp id buy an old ford wagon for 50 bucls....and build a 302 to drop in it

gp02a0083
11-20-2006, 11:50 AM
I have a feeling that the P/W ratio, wheelbase, braking, and suspension on a very shitty vertically unballanced design isn't going to make for a winning vehicle in the Formula-D series.
When it comes to professional drift vechiles, balance and skill is everything. That's why you still see underpowered Corollas (I think the highest grossing HP during last years season was like what, 210-sumodd HP?) keeping up with supercharged Vipers decently.
Shit, I'm surprised there aren't any Lotus Elise/Exige(S) in competition yet. Now THAT would be the ultimate project for Formula D.
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yes balance is the key grasshopper lol , seriously it is and being that fin thing is soo tall i cant see it taking a banked drift , and yes the AE85 and 86's keep up with the rest pretyy good IMO it is because they understand weight transfer and balance very well, have you ever trid with one of those? i cant compare a 85 or 86 hatch to our accord hatch b/c of the weight distribution is more toward the front in our 3g's (obiviously b/c of the drivetrain) and plus i believe our accords have a 3" wider wheel base stock than a 85 or 86. they are very finikey cars and they really dont require anything above 250 which would end up in constant doughnuts. the Mopar viper however i think is kinda a cheat b/c it allready got high HP and the thing was basically designed to compete in the GT series. and yes id like to see a lotus compete but then again why dont u see a MR-2 compete often, the MR's from experiance drive like go carts and were designed based on it too, alltho i wouldnt mind seeing someone try to regularly compete with one , plus the lotus has too high of a price tag.
and also "Thet car loocks like Oldmobile, something for old ppl to go shoping."
this is my 442 clone:
http://www.oldspower.com/photopost/data/500/medium/1704DSC00433.JPG
http://www.oldspower.com/photopost/data/500/medium/1704DSC00434.JPG
and
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7321/dsc075881pr330frjv2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
ive seen american cars drift liek bubba smith who used a el camino which is the same chassis believe it or not as my olds, still tho my olds only had a stage 2 preformance buil on the 2004-r tranny and ive only dropped in a stock 1969 oldsmobile 350Ci in there and the car does mid to low 14's
still is a box and does burn up rear tires all over the place on the street
however i can say the same for the S14 that i drive with my friends on a drifting team here in NJ, but sadily im getting out of drifting b/c everyons doing it and its becomming annoying when u have a kid in a chevy corsica "drifting" hence my leave of 4 wheels to 2 wheels
but really honda has to keep up with the the other companys, and they havent had anything other than a FF drivetrain other than the s2000 and i dotn even know if thier truck is Rwd.
sorry for the long post

MessyHonda
11-20-2006, 12:44 PM
if i wanted a rwd box with 500 hp id buy an old ford wagon for 50 bucls....and build a 302 to drop in it

my friend has one...i call it the brady bunch wagon

stat1K
11-20-2006, 03:16 PM
honda FTW....screw the xb....lots of owner think they got a fast car...i took one in 2nd gear when i was stock...and learning how to drive stick

that's cus they have the same engine the echo's had lol... i love that shit! it looks tighttttttt.

cubert
11-21-2006, 03:55 AM
my friend has one...i call it the brady bunch wagon


wood paneling and all :lol:

speedpenguin
11-21-2006, 06:56 AM
Well on the one hand it does seem like a fairly impractical choice, but on the other hand, it was built by Honda Engineering, so it's not like we can say they don't know what they're doing.

I'm interested to see how this plays out in competition, if it makes it.

MessyHonda
11-21-2006, 09:36 AM
wood paneling and all :lol:

yeah...the funny thing is that it has leather seats....electric all the way around and a preminum sound system...i think he paid like 400 bucks...nothing wrong with it....it just sucks up alot of gas since its a v8.....it has hella torque too...we took it to a baseball game...and there was a huge line to get in... a guy next to us was like "wow its nice to see these things on the road. I had one in high school and we would fit 8-9 ppl from the baseball and football team" we just started laughing...since we had 6 ppl in the car...lol

gp02a0083
11-22-2006, 01:01 AM
ha thx CKE yah there is potental with domestics , i mean even 240 guys are putting LS1's in those things which is an insane power to weight raito , i was brought up at the race track (englishtown raceway park NJ ) and ive allways been a drag racer at heart ( god i love the smell of nito methane :rockon: ) but i also like drifting and auto x but i have to say they only came b/c of Rally. but yah i hear it on both sides of the spectrum one from the olds crowd and another from here, its sad that we all cant get along and stop making a whole deal outta shit. and i think what ur talking about the night rider knockoff might be a 240 that has the front end converted to a firebird's. i mean my olds had with the stock 307 Ci only 180 Hp and 255 ft/lb of torque (pathetic by v-8's go) but olds engines have been known for a shit load of torque , i mean its effortless to kick the rear out on my olds, that was only the stock engine the new 350 has nearly 2x of that or possably more. thast one thing that dissappoints me i wish there was a big aftermarket for the 3gees. as far as the F$F3 goes it was ok , but now were gonna have a bunch of retards taking apart good part matching cars liek that to put in a nissan engine to me thast wrong

sorry for another long post

gp02a0083
11-22-2006, 01:07 AM
and uh yah a 7.2L/7.4 aka tha 455 469.3 Hp @5,300 and 565.3Torque @ 3,500
on a basic build um yah tires = :Owned:

SQ is the SQUAD
11-22-2006, 07:12 PM
they were better off taking a fit, making it awd with a turbo k24

speedpenguin
11-22-2006, 07:25 PM
I think the idea is that they could just use the stock drivetrain and disable the AWD.

Yeah it's extremely... Unique. But I think that was the idea.

Tecknixia
11-24-2006, 04:31 AM
The stock Element's inline four engine and RealTime AWD drivetrain just won't cut it for drifting, so the Honda R&D team tossed it out entirely.


Once a gear is selected, the V6's 500 turbocharged ponies are sent down the Driveshaft Shop custom prop shaft and are evenly split up in the Torsen 2R LSD before being sent on their way to the rear wheels via the Driveshaft Shop custom half shafts.

speedpenguin
11-24-2006, 07:15 AM
Oh...

:lol:

Sabz5150
11-24-2006, 07:31 AM
I dont like the choice of vehicle either, its kind of like a minivan and no one wants a hooked up van, lol.

Espace F1. Nuff said.

MessyHonda
11-24-2006, 08:31 PM
500hp is serious....it can take most of wut other ppl are driving on the road.