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I had to shave the larger 2 of the 4 spider gears in order for the phantom grip to fit properly.
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and a couple of shot's of the clutch.
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acouple of quick little burnouts to make sure the pg works.;)
88Accord-DX
08-27-2007, 06:09 PM
Posi-trac. Looks good.
Your car looks great, could imagine the money & time you got into it. Cool Ford dissy set up too.
(edit) First time I seen this thread.
Posi-trac. Looks good.
Your car looks great, could imagine the money & time you got into it. Cool Ford dissy set up too.
(edit) First time I seen this thread.
no more 1 tire fire!!!! lol!
thank's for the compliment's, I really appreciate them it makes it all seem worth it.
there is not alote of people that post in the forced induction forum, so i can see how you missed it.
MessyHonda
08-28-2007, 12:25 AM
man so the lsd is just that lil box....you mention that steering is harder now?
man so the lsd is just that lil box....you mention that steering is harder now?
yup all it is is that little box with some hard ass springs. the steering is alittle weird, it feels normal when you are at a stop but on a roll the steering wants to stay centered. Imagine if you'r alighment is off. the car wants to pull right or left. now the steering doesnt want to want to turn it wants to stay straight.
this is going to be a whole new learning expierance!:cheers:
DDRaptor
08-28-2007, 04:22 AM
that's really cool that's the only part of vehicles that indimidates me. I willing to try everything but until i go to school i won't mess with trannys.
fuuk!i broke an axle! hahahahahaaaaha!:(
that's really cool that's the only part of vehicles that indimidates me. I willing to try everything but until i go to school i won't mess with trannys.
manual trannys arent as bad as it may seem,if you read back afew post's i was alittle intimidated myself. the hardest part is figuring out what the hell they are talking about in the haynes manual.
the tranny i wouldn't mess with is an automatic.
I looked at the axle last night and the part with the splines,and houses the bearings at the tranny shattered. I love lifetime warranties.
ZackieDarko
08-29-2007, 06:13 AM
fuuk!i broke an axle! hahahahahaaaaha!:(
thats what you get for having a PG LSD
bobafett
08-29-2007, 06:57 AM
fuuk!i broke an axle! hahahahahaaaaha!:(
congratulations! :) I think that once a few more people get high hp turbo setups going we ought to get a driveshaftshop mini-group buy going. maybe they will give us a discount if we order 5 sets lol.
thats what you get for having a PG LSD
It get's the job done....plus it only takes 30 min. to change them out.
congratulations! :) I think that once a few more people get high hp turbo setups going we ought to get a driveshaftshop mini-group buy going. maybe they will give us a discount if we order 5 sets lol.
why thank you dear sir.:) i was just thinking about race axles. Hmm! we may just have to get something going.
guaynabo89
08-29-2007, 03:52 PM
good pics.
keep reporting on that phantom grip.
Your car is running correct? (other than broke axle)
good pics.
keep reporting on that phantom grip.
Your car is running correct? (other than broke axle)
she's running without any problems, other than the axle.lol
i'll let you guy's know what else i find on the pg. so far i like it.
it's pretty nice to actually see what's inside the trans, the only other pic's on the site are on picopop's build thread. i am glad to add a few to the board.
jlros75
08-29-2007, 07:15 PM
I will love a ride in your car, nice work on that LSD. :bow:
well gentelman, saturday night the 3g had to be towed home. I am alittle frustrated and my wife is pissed. So i wont be fixing the car right away. the lsd had nothing to do with it so don't sweat that. reverse and 5th gear wont engage, it was the worse thing i have ever felt. Somthing in the tranny litterally bombed, it seemed like the front of the car even lifted.
Here's the story:
me and some friends were chasing down some colbalt's and neons to pull a race. i was balls to the wall in 3rd gear climbing this big ass hill in full boost and bam no more acceleration nothing just reving. i was like wtf! the trans wouldent go into any gear.
so i coast into a parking lot jump out and look under the car for oil pouring out and nothing.shut the car off cycle through the gears 1 2 3 4 are ok but rev and 5th are fucked up.so i decide to drive the car home and before we can leave somthing explodes under the hood.
i thought the batt or somthing exploded that shit was loud. the fucking top rad hose blew, Damb i was pissed!
for peace of mind the tranny has to get tore down again.
on a good note that clutch and flywheel made a huge differance.
i was keeping up quite well with my friends 480 horse and 600+ horse mustangs.
bobafett
09-03-2007, 07:13 AM
oh man that sucks!
what were your water temps (do you have gauge?) 5th gear is not uncommon to lose from what I understand. When my wife had a 3g she lost 5th while cruising 75mph on the freeway and when she pulled over she stopped, everything seemed ok in 1-4 while 'stopped' so she tried to move again, the tranny got stuck in either 1st or 2nd, and would never disengage. :( fun stuff. not sure what happened, but it was pretty scary according to her. :)
also goldyaccord experienced something like that while doing a hard 1-2 shift, the trans just LOCKED, and he skidded 30ft to a halt, and had to get the car towed away lol.
DDRaptor
09-03-2007, 07:52 AM
well gentelman, saturday night the 3g had to be towed home. I am alittle frustrated and my wife is pissed. So i wont be fixing the car right away. the lsd had nothing to do with it so don't sweat that. reverse and 5th gear wont engage, it was the worse thing i have ever felt. Somthing in the tranny litterally bombed, it seemed like the front of the car even lifted.
Here's the story:
me and some friends were chasing down some colbalt's and neons to pull a race. i was balls to the wall in 3rd gear climbing this big ass hill in full boost and bam no more acceleration nothing just reving. i was like wtf! the trans wouldent go into any gear.
so i coast into a parking lot jump out and look under the car for oil pouring out and nothing.shut the car off cycle through the gears 1 2 3 4 are ok but rev and 5th are fucked up.so i decide to drive the car home and before we can leave somthing explodes under the hood.
i thought the batt or somthing exploded that shit was loud. the fucking top rad hose blew, Damb i was pissed!
for peace of mind the tranny has to get tore down again.
on a good note that clutch and flywheel made a huge differance.
i was keeping up quite well with my friends 480 horse and 600+ horse mustangs.
DAMN! that blows :thumbdn: well with all that power i'm surprised something did'nt give out earlier. well i guess you gotta have to beef up all the components cooling, ps, tranny gears. axles.
bullard123
09-03-2007, 08:15 AM
Awww man this sucks Jerry. Sounds like you had it running good again. The tranny is fixable right?
MessyHonda
09-03-2007, 11:33 AM
yup our trannys dont like alot of power or being mistreated. i remember when i put 5-30 semi synthetic oil 5th gear overheated. and it got stuck in 5th gear....but now i put some honda MTF and my 5th gear works now....i like cheap fixes but right now im doing a whole tranny rebuild.
EricW
09-03-2007, 02:51 PM
Nice work, Makes me want to install my lightweight flywheel. I've been wanting a LSD, but i think I'm going to contact OPM about a LSD before i settle for a Phantom grip. Sucks that your tranny broke hopefully it will be something easy to fix.
yea guy's the flywheel makes a big differance, it seems like i didn't have to downshift as much climbing hill's.
i still havent done anything to the car as of yet, i need a break.lol
bullard i think this trans is done. i have one left and it needs a syncro kit.
anyone know where i can get one?
Nice work, Makes me want to install my lightweight flywheel. I've been wanting a LSD, but i think I'm going to contact OPM about a LSD before i settle for a Phantom grip. Sucks that your tranny broke hopefully it will be something easy to fix.
let me know how opm works out for you. you'll love that flywheel.
i had a nice little chat with JohnnyO on trannys and he said he was running a stock tranny and never had any problems.
i took some time yesterday and fixed the tranny.
i was amazed when i draind the oil, there were hardly any metal shavings in it.
the weired part is that when i pulled the trans apart i didn't see any thing wrong with it. well except for 5th gear was alittle chewed next to the syncro.
after an hour of trying to figure out why it would not shift into rev. i decided that somthing in the shift mechinism was tweeked. i pulled the assembly out of the spare trans, and installed it, slid the case on and it was golden.
all the gears shifted with ease.
i put the trans back together and reinstalled it, road test time.
she ran beutiful.
bobafett
09-23-2007, 08:51 AM
good to hear! :)
I was a little worried since this happened RIGHT after the install of the PG. I sure wish I knew enough about transmissions to install that PG and modify the gears so that it all works.
Ichiban
09-23-2007, 09:37 AM
One of these years I am going to look into modifying a Torsen differential from another application to fit our tranny's. The new Civic's come with them stock.
good to hear! :)
I was a little worried since this happened RIGHT after the install of the PG. I sure wish I knew enough about transmissions to install that PG and modify the gears so that it all works.
i wasn't really that worried about the PG, what i mean is if it was the PG it wouldn't move at all.
it's not that hard to install. you need to mic the gears to make sure you are taking the same amount of material off of both gears.
If you arent comfortible take it to a machine shop and have them shave the gears, or even install the pg in the diff for you.
edit: if you can build an engine you can tear down a manual tranny.
bobafett
09-24-2007, 06:37 AM
yeah that is probably what I would have to do, :)
guaynabo89
09-24-2007, 07:05 AM
edit: if you can build an engine you can tear down a manual tranny.
Agreed.
Dont even need any special tools. Just have to make sure everything gets put together corectly. Now if it was an auto tranny that might be problematic. lol
89turboed....
How long till you post up some more vids etc? What are your goals? I'm glad to hear everything went ok withthe tranny situation. It sucks when little things like that slow you down.
bullard123
09-24-2007, 07:09 AM
Yeah Jerry we need to hook up when you get it running so I can take a cruise in the beast
89turboed....
How long till you post up some more vids etc? What are your goals? I'm glad to hear everything went ok withthe tranny situation. It sucks when little things like that slow you down.
looks like bullard123 is volunteering to be the camera man.:)
as far as goals go i am looking for 400 hp. or a 11 sec 1/4mile run with some relibility for street use. I dont know if it is a realistic goal or not but that's what i would like to end up with.
Yeah Jerry we need to hook up when you get it running so I can take a cruise in the beast
it's ready to go!
bullard123
09-24-2007, 08:10 PM
it's ready to go!
Ok hit me up Saturday before 7:30 pm so I can take some vids
right on...
looks like we are going to get some vids up soon.
bobafett
09-25-2007, 06:50 AM
w00t just make sure you guys get them online sooner than later! lol lets see some sweet a20t action!
guaynabo89
09-26-2007, 09:05 AM
ok where are the vids already!
:D
ok where are the vids already!
:D
daaaaamb it's not saturday yet...patiance my brother patiance.;)
ok where are the vids already!
:D
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doing some more work on my accord.
its still in progress.:)
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Accordtheory
02-10-2008, 10:50 AM
Here's my comment. I'm having a little trouble seeing what I want to see with the pics, but If you have the radius arms connected to the lca's like stock, you're going to have a problem with the setup on the front of the bars. If you picture how that whole assy moves, it moves on the axis of a line drawn through the lca's inner bushing and the forward pivot point. Not on the axis you have the ends set up with. The radius arm's pivot location should be in line with the pivot axis on the lca..nowhere close to how you have it. Want further clarification? Go look at any car with A arms.
Just picture the radius arm and the lca as one big solid piece, now see what I mean?
What you have might work, but the bushing will be twisted from side to side as the suspension moves.
A20A1
02-10-2008, 10:55 AM
Thats a lot of room :) so why did you choose the round tube over the square tube for construction?
Accordtheory
02-10-2008, 10:55 AM
As far as what I wrote, I'm guessing that wasn't what you wanted to hear? lol..Well, other than that, it's good progress. It's about time someone got into this, and finally built this type of setup.
Here's my comment. I'm having a little trouble seeing what I want to see with the pics, but If you have the radius arms connected to the lca's like stock, you're going to have a problem with the setup on the front of the bars. If you picture how that whole assy moves, it moves on the axis of a line drawn through the lca's inner bushing and the forward pivot point. Not on the axis you have the ends set up with. The radius arm's pivot location should be in line with the pivot axis on the lca..nowhere close to how you have it. Want further clarification? Go look at any car with A arms.
Just picture the radius arm and the lca as one big solid piece, now see what I mean?
What you have might work, but the bushing will be twisted from side to side as the suspension moves.
i fully understand what your saying! I have to admit i have not put a lot of thought into the axis point just yet. i have been consumed with how it would attach from the threaded portion of the bar to the cross bar.
at this point nothing is set in stone, i haven't made the steel plates to attach the extensions yet and the extensions are not welded in place.
Thats a lot of room :) so why did you choose the round tube over the square tube for construction?
i should have gone with square tube,but when i decided to jump into this i already had the round tube.
i gained a huge amount of room. I wish i held off with the manifold now!lol...
As far as what I wrote, I'm guessing that wasn't what you wanted to hear? lol..Well, other than that, it's good progress. It's about time someone got into this, and finally built this type of setup.
contrary to popular belief, i enjoy constructive criticism.:cheers:
:wave:i knew i could count on you! lol...
thanks.
Accordtheory
02-11-2008, 10:57 AM
Wow..I just spent like 15 minutes wondering out loud writing a post, and then it all clicked in place..Finally! So then I erased the whole thing.
Here's what I was trying to figure out, why do traction bar setups use 2 rod ends, one on each end of the rod? This is counterproductive to the stiffness/rigidity of the whole assembly, by allowing the lca to pivot on the axis of that inner rod end, effectively prying the lca to subframe bushing back and forth as the ball joint end of the lca moves slightly back and forth. To do this with the oem radius rod, it would have to flex that rod right there at the mounting point.
So why do they use those 2 rod ends?
Basically, because with a longer radius arm, the angle of that arm must decrease, to preserve the original lca swivel axis. So instead of making the arm mount onto the lca at a different fixed angle, they just use rod ends. Half assed in my book, I'd much rather mount the front of the rod to the cross bar, set the caster, and then final tighten the mounting bolts on the rod to the the lca at whatever angle it ends up. So what have you done to address this? It loks like you just threaded the oem rod into an extension? So are the bolt holes in that oem rod big enough to allow you to adjust it to get the right angle on it, or what were you going to do?
I know almost exactly how I would build this whole thing now, from how I would replace the oem radius rods completely with tubular steel, to what bushings I would use on the front, (I hate rod ends) but I probably won't do it. I'll probably just use harder bushings with my oem rods..
And when you're all done with this, how much turning radius reduction will you have, will your tires hit the rods before full steering lock? Most people encounter this.
Wow..I just spent like 15 minutes wondering out loud writing a post, and then it all clicked in place..Finally! So then I erased the whole thing.
Here's what I was trying to figure out, why do traction bar setups use 2 rod ends, one on each end of the rod? This is counterproductive to the stiffness/rigidity of the whole assembly, by allowing the lca to pivot on the axis of that inner rod end, effectively prying the lca to sub-frame bushing back and forth as the ball joint end of the lca moves slightly back and forth. To do this with the oem radius rod, it would have to flex that rod right there at the mounting point.
So why do they use those 2 rod ends?
Basically, because with a longer radius arm, the angle of that arm must decrease, to preserve the original lca swivel axis. So instead of making the arm mount onto the lca at a different fixed angle, they just use rod ends. Half assed in my book, I'd much rather mount the front of the rod to the cross bar, set the caster, and then final tighten the mounting bolts on the rod to the the lca at whatever angle it ends up. So what have you done to address this? It looks like you just threaded the oem rod into an extension? So are the bolt holes in that oem rod big enough to allow you to adjust it to get the right angle on it, or what were you going to do?
the extension would be welded to the existing rod bolt the long one and retain the og lock nut witch would give me adjustably for caster and it would give me the ability to set the bushing-to-crossbar at what ever angle is best.
my thoughts on that were to articulate the whole Assembly using a jack watching the rod end to find the best pivot point/Axis point on the cross bar.at this point tack the mounts.
then setting the car on the ground to get the weight on it. lets call that that the neutral position(np).
now i can set the caster while in the np leaving the lock nut loose so the extensions can swivel/turn, adding the nut and bolt to the cross bar mount.
doing it this way will prevent unloading/pre-loading the bushing.
the bushing will be it a neutral state giving you 1*-2* torsional movement in either direction depending on how hard the bushing is.
when every thing is all said and done the rigidity of the assembly will probably double that of stock.
does that make sense or I'm i wrong in my thinking?
I know almost exactly how I would build this whole thing now, from how I would replace the oem radius rods completely with tubular steel, to what bushings I would use on the front, (I hate rod ends) but I probably won't do it. I'll probably just use harder bushings with my oem rods..
And when you're all done with this, how much turning radius reduction will you have, will your tires hit the rods before full steering lock? Most people encounter this.
turning radius will retained as stock....
if i redesigned the rad arm and changed the angle then i would have problems with turning radius and go through bushings like no tomorrow.
i may be wrong.
when you launch your tires want to toe out so you really want to match the pull angle for the most effective strength witch the stock rods already do.
a better representation of on the market traction bars to me are simply "a brace"
with what i am doing a torsion bar comes to mind.
what do you think?
Accordtheory
02-12-2008, 03:37 PM
I'll try to summarize this quickly..without referencing anything I've written, If you extend the radius arm, the angle of that arm, referenced to the lca, Must change. (This is what compromises the turning radius) This is to preserve the original swivel axis of the the lower supension. The new front swivel point needs to be inline with the old swivel point, side/side/up/down. You can Not extend the arm and just move the swivel point inward, that alters your suspension geometry. Just measure the distance from your "framerail" sideways to the center of the oem radius bushing location, and preserve that, so no matter how far forward you move it, your new front radius arm swivel axis will be lined up. Make sense? Moving the arm with a jack won't really tell you shit.
Here's another way to picture it. All you're doing with the traction bar setup is making an a arm wider. It still needs to pivot on the same axis.
Accordtheory
02-12-2008, 03:41 PM
Picture a giant a arm being like 10 feet wide. (10 feet along the length of the car, not the width) No matter how wide you make the arm, the bushings still need to be in line with, on the same axis with where the old bushings were, get it?
well guys i went to the strip today and made 2 runs. I'd rather not post times or slip's.
first run the car had massive wheel hop with the slicks so i had to get out of it then back on it. i get another 50 feet and the f**king intecooler pipe blew off. ooh well i can get a few more runs in anyway.
2nd run she launches great and pulling hard i notice the car is smoking,i am thinking f**k it if she blows she blows. i just pass the 1/8th and the hood fly's open at 75 mph+/- wtf... am i still going straight, wheres the wall sob....luckaly the hood rips right off the hinge on the driver side and i have a pocket on the left bottom of the windshield i can see out of. i pull up to get my ticket and the kid said woh are you OK and just stood there. i started laughing and said uh ya give me my ticket so i can load it up.
the turbo is blowing oil now and it is time for a rebuild, and there is a slight knock on the bottom end. the sun roof glass is gone and the frame for the sun roof is pushed down from the hood hitting it.
I am tired. i need to do some soul searching to figure out my next step.
pic's later.
EricW
10-25-2008, 08:30 PM
That will definitely ruin a day at the track. Can't wait to see what you do next.
bullard123
10-25-2008, 09:24 PM
Woe Jerry this sucks man..........I hope you get everything fixed up. Let me know if i can help you out
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That will definitely ruin a day at the track. Can't wait to see what you do next.
dam i want to try a gt35r but that 62 -1 is capable of 72lbs a minute or around 1000 cfm... it will cost me around 250 - 350 bucks to rebuild. i guess that would be better than 1100-1300 for the gt35r.
I think the glass has got to go for safety sake. i am going to look into a carbon fiber filler or just sheet metal it. I'll leave the motors and all but do some sort of filler.
the engine probably needs to be pulled and replace the rod and main bearings and i might re-ring it as well.
another thing on the agenda is to go back to a Honda dizzy and go with a Neptune setup.
for some stupid Reason the car wouldn't idle unless it was fat on fuel(at the strip). I am also thinking of going with 65mm Honda TB vs the mustang 70mm TB .
it just sucks that i couldn't get a full run in.
opinions are more than welcome.
Woe Jerry this sucks man..........I hope you get everything fixed up. Let me know if i can help you out
i am just being hard on my self bro, i am getting tired of pulling the engine and pulling the tranny, but if i want to play i have to pay. Right.
its just more body work,paint and about $700 in other parts.
I'll let you know if i need a hand. thanks!
SIDE NOTE:
The Phantom grip works like a dream!
the car launched straight pulled straight and i have no complaints.
i did an oil change before i went to the track and had no signs of metal shavings.:cheers:
87roach
10-27-2008, 08:19 AM
Holy hell, that would of been pretty sketchy! Good luck with the repairs.
EricW
10-27-2008, 08:37 AM
Since your looking into Neptune you should also check out Ectune. I went over what neptune can do and ectune does all of the same things and is priced pretty much the same for the Pro version.
cygnus x-1
10-27-2008, 11:16 AM
Why would you switch back to a Honda dist from the EECIV? As I understand it EECIV is basically equivalent to EDIS?
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Since your looking into Neptune you should also check out Ectune. I went over what Neptune can do and ectune does all of the same things and is priced pretty much the same for the Pro version.i will sure look into it, but i can get a hell of a deal on the Neptune with dyno tunning.
Why would you switch back to a Honda dist from the EECIV? As I understand it EECIV is basically equivalent to EDIS?
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this is a pre 90 dist so it uses a tfi module to control a hall effect sensor.here is a link to kinda explain what i have.
do you think it could be to be controlled by a Neptune or Ectune? i may do some more research.
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/TFI_Diagnostic.html
cygnus x-1
10-28-2008, 09:45 AM
i will sure look into it, but i can get a hell of a deal on the Neptune with dyno tunning.
this is a pre 90 dist so it uses a tfi module to control a hall effect sensor.here is a link to kinda explain what i have.
do you think it could be to be controlled by a Neptune or Ectune? i may do some more research.
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/TFI_Diagnostic.html
Had to go back and read through the thread, but now I see what you have. EECIV is a distributor setup and I was thinking it was all electronic. I was confused on why you would be going back to a distributor after having no distributor. But I see that's not the case.
So since you mentioned Ectune and Neptune it sounds like you are thinking of going with OBD1 instead of the Holley Commander? Is OBD1 better in some way? I'm not familiar with either really. I'm running a Megasquirt with a Ford EDIS (distributorless) ignition. It uses a crank trigger instead of a cam trigger which in the end I think is more reliable. And since there is no distributor you don't have to deal with caps and rotors anymore. If the Holley supports it I would highly recommend an EDIS system. It won't be compatible with any Honda stuff though.
But if you do switch to OBD1, would you be interested in an adapter plate to fit an F22 dist. to the A20? I ask because we're working on a design over in the R&D section.
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Had to go back and read through the thread, but now I see what you have. EECIV is a distributor setup and I was thinking it was all electronic. I was confused on why you would be going back to a distributor after having no distributor. But I see that's not the case.
So since you mentioned Ectune and Neptune it sounds like you are thinking of going with OBD1 instead of the Holley Commander? Is OBD1 better in some way? I'm not familiar with either really. I'm running a Megasquirt with a Ford EDIS (distributor less) ignition. It uses a crank trigger instead of a cam trigger which in the end I think is more reliable. And since there is no distributor you don't have to deal with caps and rotors anymore. If the Holley supports it I would highly recommend an EDIS system. It won't be compatible with any Honda stuff though.
But if you do switch to OBD1, would you be interested in an adapter plate to fit an F22 dist. to the A20? I ask because we're working on a design over in the R&D section.
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my commander is a bit out of date, and is in need of a re-flash.
most of the Honda programs these days run boost by gear or 4 stages,anti-lag,2 step and a host of other options Holley does not offer.
the Holley does have 4 input/output sections i can configure for some of those options but not all.
the commander is sweet for it's usability and reliability but lacks the bells and whistles that Neptune RTP and Ectune include..
also i am having an issue with the idle, i have to run it dangerously rich at idle for it to stay idling. i tried to lean it, advance timing / retard timing
and nothing it wants lots of fuel like 10:1 afr....
i know my problem may be elsewhere though. i just have to find it.
i have been lurking in the the adaptor plate thread and i have the f22 dist already, just waiting to see if it comes through or not.;)
MessyHonda
10-31-2008, 06:56 PM
man that sucks...next time an accord makes that much power you need hood pins
lol it had hood pins... those stupid ass key lock type . maybe i'll use the slide lock type next.
i got a new hood, glass, and a vent visor for 100 bucks the other day.I have to start sanding it down, and prep the car for paint again.
cygnus x-1
11-01-2008, 10:30 AM
also i am having an issue with the idle, i have to run it dangerously rich at idle for it to stay idling. i tried to lean it, advance timing / retard timing
and nothing it wants lots of fuel like 10:1 afr....
i know my problem may be elsewhere though. i just have to find it.
i have been lurking in the the adaptor plate thread and i have the f22 dist already, just waiting to see if it comes through or not.;)
I've noticed mine likes to idle fairly rich too, 12-13:1. But 10:1 is extreme. Have you tried recalibrating the WBO2? They do drift sometimes.
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no sir i haven't in a while, but the black smoke coming from the exhaust is quite evident along with black plugs.their not fuel soaked but they are black.
the turbo is taking a dump too so that may have helped with the dis-coloration.
well i got some work done today .the roof is pulled back into place and the glass is in. the hood has been sanded,cleaned, and the first coat is on in side and out.
MessyHonda
11-08-2008, 09:49 AM
nice to hear its coming back together
Just wow !:hmph:I decided last night to go ahead and swap out center the section of my turbo with a new center section, and this is what i found when i removed the compressor housing.
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2435/jan100002wd2.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jan100002wd2.jpg)
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/124/jan100001lg2.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jan100001lg2.jpg)
I must have sucked up a rock or somthing at the track.
it's a travesty.. I had to put this on.
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4926/jan110001al9.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jan110001al9.jpg)
ooh well it is back on the road.
Ichiban
01-11-2009, 09:43 AM
Where did all that junk end up? Engine or intercooler?
Rendon LX-i
01-11-2009, 12:59 PM
wow man. thats crazy..damn man thats sad...well she back on the road now. thats good to hear. hopefully that dont happen to me at the track. IM also gettting black plugs fucken sucks man but. im going to have to lean it out a little. i need to get obd1 fast as i can.
Where did all that junk end up? Engine or intercooler?
there were a few tiny shavings at the throttle body so sum of it ended up in the engine for sure.
i purged the intercooler with a shop vac , but i am unsure if anything came out. I was trying to get a good seal with my hands.
i am also getting a slight knock out of the bottem end. I figure i'll pull the pan and replace the bearings and check for shavings, i really dont feel like removing the engine again.
wow man. thats crazy..damn man thats sad...well she back on the road now. thats good to hear. hopefully that dont happen to me at the track. IM also gettting black plugs fucken sucks man but. im going to have to lean it out a little. i need to get obd1 fast as i can.
thanks for the kind words..you'v got to pay to play, i guess..lol
did you do the blue wire mod to check the afr?
If you dont already have a wideband i'd get one before something goes wrong.
OK guy's sorry this is the last 89turbo'ed pic that will be posted in this thread.I am done with it the way she sits. There will be some changes made and possibly a full tear down and rebuild.
this thread was awesome even with a smart ass member which caused me to start to loose interest in the whole thing. you know who you are. lol!
A :sadwave: to those who supported it. thanks. ;) there Will be more to come.
bump this bitch every now and then to keep it alive for me.
89turbo'ed.
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Rendon LX-i
03-14-2009, 06:39 PM
Just just looks HOTT. damn dude. you got 2step.....i really want one. idk if that 2 step module from msd would work on my mallory 6al. NICE DUDE. Whaty out of the game now or just a break? dont tell me..................
thanks, hmm... their both msd's though. 6btm and 2 step.
i think its time to go back to honda management, head work and general cleaning up of the engine bay.possibly re-ringing the pistons and fresh bearings.
i am sure you were thinking b18. no thats a long ways away if that would even happen. I think the hatch is getting the built b18a/T.
Rendon LX-i
03-14-2009, 08:32 PM
ummm nice...im working on my obd1. But im still surpise how she holding up to 9psi and steady. I figured she would throw a rod buy now and nothing LOL. Cant wait to see the progress man. By the way im looking at some slicks what size your running?
sorry for the late reply but i am running 22.0/8.0/15 slicks.
good luck with you'r upgrades.
the tear down begins.
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6344/mar310002t.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mar310002t.jpg)
By zues800 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/zues800)
but i have to Finnish rebuilding a sf chevy tranny before i can continue.
well as most of you know i felt my old thread was, well getting old and it was all over the place.
I am going stay more focused on what i am posting here.
I have not done anything new to the car in a while but the last couple of days has changed that.
Rendon-lxi kinda kicked me in the ass with out him knowing it.
I have been following his thread and I feel he is doing well with his accord.
That's what got me going again.
Money is tight right now so everything i do for a Minute will have mid to low budget.
I have done a few new things but i have yet to install them.
Most of you know i built a catch can and I'll post some finished pic's here. I also tapped the valve cover for a second breather line and gave it a make over. I'll have to go with some cheap lines to get started with.
I will do a basic how to on the catch can which anyone with semi-basic hand tools can make.
The finished product that i will show only varies on the inside with a baffle. Sadly I didn't get a interior pic while it was split in half.
So here it goes.
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8498/may240007.jpg (http://img32.imageshack.us/my.php?image=may240007.jpg)http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1513/may240008.jpg (http://img32.imageshack.us/my.php?image=may240008.jpg)
I went with a flat black Finnish and it came out pretty decent.
eventually i will add 2 more fittings in the front of the valve cover and the catch can for additional venting.
Eventually A second catch can that will be sealed with only a drain valve and 2 fittings 1 in 1 out will be added for the crank case evacuation. The second can is going to be vacuum assisted via a slash cut tube welded into the waste gate dump tube. that's the plan anyway.
heres some pics.
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6473/may240001.jpg (http://img32.imageshack.us/my.php?image=may240001.jpg)http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4695/may240004.jpg (http://img32.imageshack.us/my.php?image=may240004.jpg)
I am going to make a cut below the new fitting and slide in a baffle to separate it from the drilled holes.
On the opposite side i will drill additional holes in the same manner as the ones pictured.
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9546/may240006.jpg (http://img32.imageshack.us/my.php?image=may240006.jpg)http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1261/may240002.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/my.php?image=may240002.jpg)
chillphillyphil
05-24-2009, 04:30 PM
Sorry if this is a stupid q - but whats the purpose of the catch can? Replace valve cover breather?
lostforawhile
05-24-2009, 04:43 PM
i'm in the same situation so much has been going on i haven't been able to work on my car at all
Sorry if this is a stupid q - but whats the purpose of the catch can? Replace valve cover breather?
it used to release pressure in the head and crank case and to collect the blow by oil and unburnt fuel that would normally end up back in the oil pan or the intake manifold. Adding extra lines helps it ventilate better.
On a turbo application there is not a good vacuum source to pull the gases, so you ventilate it to the atmosphere.
on an n/a car you could use a vented or non vented (in line)catch can.
i know i am missing a bunch of stuff in there but here is a good red on the subject.
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1199935
I'm in the same situation so much has been going on i haven't been able to work on my car at all
when you get alittle while to do something, all you want to do is rest.
you'll get back into it. I have faith in you.
Tdurr
05-24-2009, 10:55 PM
woot! glad to see you back and up again man!
woot! glad to see you back and up again man!
Thanks Tdurr, I need to re-focus on what i started doing on the re-work of the car.
I started making a conversion harness to run a obd1 ecu and if i remember right it is almost done. I also bought a de-soldiering iron so i can chip my ecu. I just need to pick up a chip kit from www.phearable.net (http://www.phearable.net). and save some cash for the Neptune rpt.
when all that is in place i need to remove everything and re-run all the wiring including stereo and alarm wiring.
I may leave the main a20 plugs alone so pulling the engine will be easier.
i also want to re-run all the ic pipe.
all in due time my friend.
almost done with the venting. I need to go get welding wire.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3425/may250001.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/my.php?image=may250001.jpg)http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/8633/may250002.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/my.php?image=may250002.jpg)
As you can see i drilled a bunch of holes for more venting and cut a slit with a cutoff saw so i could drop in a metal plate to act as a baffle or a wall between the vent holes and the vent fitting.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/963/may250003.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/my.php?image=may250003.jpg)http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5640/may250004.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/my.php?image=may250004.jpg)
These are just a close up of what i did.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/8676/may250005.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/my.php?image=may250005.jpg)http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2206/may250006.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/my.php?image=may250006.jpg)
A shot with the plate in place and the next one shows the de-burring of the cut's.
when i get back this evening I'll install it and test it.
chillphillyphil
05-25-2009, 04:07 PM
it used to release pressure in the head and crank case and to collect the blow by oil and unburnt fuel that would normally end up back in the oil pan or the intake manifold. Adding extra lines helps it ventilate better.
On a turbo application there is not a good vacuum source to pull the gases, so you ventilate it to the atmosphere.
on an n/a car you could use a vented or non vented (in line)catch can.
i know i am missing a bunch of stuff in there but here is a good red on the subject.
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1199935
THANK YOU! I feel smarter already - that was great!
THANK YOU! I feel smarter already - that was great!
You'r welcome..I am glad to be of help.
this evening i got the chance to clean the valve cover, install it and the catch can.
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3599/may250007.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=may250007.jpg)http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3681/may250009.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=may250009.jpg)
I ran the car and reved it and so far it is happy. it's raining so i did not get a chance to check it on full boost.
the lines are clear so i was looking for oil and any condensation leaving the valve cover. there doesn't seem to be any as of yet..
I am alittle embarrassed, the charge pipe needs paint.:rolleyes:
Rendon LX-i
05-25-2009, 07:48 PM
Ummm thats really interesting bro...Drilling the holes on the baffle itself would make sense. IF it works then ill have to do that also...Im going to to that vented catch can setup when i do my new setup. I think its going to work great. I yet need obd1..i got the p06 virgen ecu...a civic dizzy but i wont be using that. so just jumper and all the goodies that go with it...just have to get extra cash.
Thanks man.....you do one hell of a job also.
Question....where did you get those fittings from and that breather? im going to make this catch can setup...but you need to do a how to bro LOL
lostforawhile
05-25-2009, 10:33 PM
well i started working on my harnesses again,have to start somewhere,since it's raining, and is going to rain all week http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020348-2.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020349-2.jpg
Ummm thats really interesting bro...Drilling the holes on the baffle itself would make sense. IF it works then ill have to do that also...Im going to to that vented catch can setup when i do my new setup. I think its going to work great. I yet need obd1..i got the p06 virgen ecu...a civic dizzy but i wont be using that. so just jumper and all the goodies that go with it...just have to get extra cash.
Thanks man.....you do one hell of a job also.
Question....where did you get those fittings from and that breather? im going to make this catch can setup...but you need to do a how to bro LOL
i'll work on that how to tonight. i'll include where i got all the fittings and breather.
cool, it sounds like you are on you'r way. Why are you not going to use the po6?
well i started working on my harnesses again,have to start somewhere,since it's raining, and is going to rain all week
Yes sir! nothing like building harnesses. what is all that for?
I am glad you got back into it. It is supposed to rain here all week to and hopefully they don't cancel work due to the rain.
2drSE-i
05-26-2009, 05:44 AM
On the engine tuning: Neptune now utilizes the Moates Demon, a new line of onboard chip, freaking awesome. Onboard datalogging, 16x accessible calibrations, no chips to burn, no emulators to worry about. Realtime tuning, 100%.
Rendon LX-i
05-26-2009, 07:29 AM
Not going to use the dizzy i mean lol....
87roach
05-26-2009, 08:47 AM
Lost, I think you posted in the wrong thread.
Glad to see your getting back on your project man!
Tdurr
05-26-2009, 12:27 PM
Lost, I think you posted in the wrong thread.
Glad to see your getting back on your project man!
lol i thought the same thing. :uh:
And thanks who ever put the link up to phearable, i just read the whole FAQ and learned a good bit bout chipping ecu's!
and im assuming u got a new turbo or got the old one rebuilt? I thought the oil seals were going bad...
lostforawhile
05-26-2009, 01:40 PM
Lost, I think you posted in the wrong thread.
Glad to see your getting back on your project man!yea i did sorry was tired at the time,sorrry guys:confused:
lostforawhile
05-26-2009, 01:42 PM
Yes sir! nothing like building harnesses. what is all that for?
I am glad you got back into it. It is supposed to rain here all week to and hopefully they don't cancel work due to the rain.
sorry if i posted in the wrong thread, that is part of the alarm harness and part of the power harness for some of the stuff in the car, the tool box is actually my battery box for an odyssey battery, has the battery brackets in it,main breaker, maxi fuses, smaller fuse blocks,and a diagnostic voltmeter
On the engine tuning: Neptune now utilizes the Moates Demon, a new line of onboard chip, freaking awesome. Onboard datalogging, 16x accessible calibrations, no chips to burn, no emulators to worry about. Real-time tuning, 100%.
you forgot boost control and the tuner view.
http://www.hrtuning.com/photos/tvdash/smdashkit.jpg
That thing is fkn awesome! the boost control features are unreal. It is one of the best tuning hardware/software out there.
Lost, I think you posted in the wrong thread.
Glad to see your getting back on your project man!
stay tuned, let's see if i can stay busy.
lol i thought the same thing. :uh:
And thanks who ever put the link up to phearable, i just read the whole FAQ and learned a good bit bout chipping ecu's!
and I'm assuming u got a new turbo or got the old one rebuilt? I thought the oil seals were going bad...
You sir are welcome.
yup! i had a brand new center section and stage3 63ar exhaust housing sitting in a box.lol
But I had to throw in a 60ar compressor housing and smaller wheel.
the up side is that it spools a hella lot faster and will support up to 350HP.
sorry if i posted in the wrong thread, that is part of the alarm harness and part of the power harness for some of the stuff in the car, the tool box is actually my battery box for an odyssey battery, has the battery brackets in it,main breaker, maxi fuses, smaller fuse blocks,and a diagnostic voltmeter
It is cool! I thought you were making conversation.
I want that tool box it's freakin cool.
could you do me a favor and remove the pic's?
the text is fine, but those pic's are huge.lol.
thank you.
There was a bit of progress today.
I took the car out just after work went for a pull and pop. I blew a coupler apart. lol
I fixed her up and went for another pull, from a second gear roll on low boost and when the car hit 5000 rpm i blew the tire's off. fuuuuck, i forgot how fun this car was.
I was filled with confidence so i boosted on a stang and then i realized there was a cop 2 cars behind him. lol The cop just kinda looked at me and shuck his head.
That's what i get for screwing around hahaaha.
The valve cover and catch can seem to work great. It did not push any oil into the lines.
OOH, I shorted my fourm name. It was time for a change.
mod away!
lostforawhile
05-26-2009, 05:23 PM
you forgot boost control and the tuner view.
http://www.hrtuning.com/photos/tvdash/smdashkit.jpg
That thing is fkn awesome! the boost control features are unreal. It is one of the best tuning hardware/software out there.
stay tuned, let's see if i can stay busy.
You sir are welcome.
yup! i had a brand new center section and stage3 63ar exhaust housing sitting in a box.lol
But I had to throw in a 60ar compressor housing and smaller wheel.
the up side is that it spools a hella lot faster and will support up to 350HP.
It is cool! I thought you were making conversation.
I want that tool box it's freakin cool.
could you do me a favor and remove the pic's?
the text is fine, but those pic's are huge.lol.
thank you.i resized them down to small sorry, the tool box is over 50 years old, i had a terrible time finding the aeroquip decal, it's vintage 86 and a bunch of my lines and fittings are the same vintage stuff as the decal. i like your stuff you posted very cool. even with my vintage 72 carbs eventually going to running some sort of data logging air fuel stuff to get them set up right.
lostforawhile
05-26-2009, 05:28 PM
another thing some of the turbo guys do,is to run a vaccume pump off of the crankcase, the vaccume drawn on the case pulls out all the blowby,and the negative pressure can help your rings seal better also. if you ditched the ac,like a lot of people have,good location for one, the Morosso pumps are pricey,but if you look on second hand racing gear sites,sometimes you can get them reasonable. the nice thing is they keep a constant negative pressure on the case ,and the vaccume increases with rpm, when the blowby increases.
Rendon LX-i
05-26-2009, 05:30 PM
ummm i got some oil in the catch setup i did...after bout 1 1/2 weeks worth lol....i really want to do this thou....looks more letget then mine.. HOW TO HOW TO lol...how did you strap that bitch down anyway bro?.
2drSE-i
05-26-2009, 05:32 PM
ya the tunerview was the first thing on my wish list lol. Freaking awesome. Totally eliminates the need for 1200000 guages inside the car, and its less than $200, freakin made my day when i found that a few months ago.
lostforawhile
05-26-2009, 05:33 PM
ya the tunerview was the first thing on my wish list lol. Freaking awesome. Totally eliminates the need for 1200000 guages inside the car, and its less than $200, freakin made my day when i found that a few months ago.
does it log air fuel ratio? even the logging gauges were going for more then that
2drSE-i
05-26-2009, 08:29 PM
it logs narrowband afr, but you can hook your wideband up to your ecu, and yes the tunerview will display it. you still have to buy the wideband sensor =(
Tdurr
05-26-2009, 08:56 PM
what all does the tuner view show? and how much do they run(ugg ready for a really high number)
i kinda want to drop the money on that now... lol well if i had the money...
mykwikcoupe
05-26-2009, 09:33 PM
OMG this thing is sweet at tits on a hot chick
http://www.floridahondaclassifieds.com/showthread.php?t=5422
Rendon LX-i
05-26-2009, 09:52 PM
LOL SWEET..i need that lol...umm x mas LOL
Tdurr
05-26-2009, 10:14 PM
psh. for 200 thats a damn good deal if u already have the proper software! That deff is on my list! would be sooo damn nice.
mykwikcoupe
05-26-2009, 11:58 PM
yeah and the smaller kit seems to fit the dash clock size almost perfectly. Thats where Id put it anyways. The radio installs look great but too much of an inconvience to look down and over when you can ust look over. I wonder if the writing is the same size or is the numbering smaller since the display is smaller? Might be cool to use a main display in the clock function and a second for less valuable cool info under the radio in the storage compartments. Too bad out clusters dont have an available spots like the civics, that would be super cool. Maybe send a cluster off to someone and have them fiberglass a upper section onto thhe cluster surround to house 2 display modules?
Maybe someone can photoshop some design ideas around the stock cluster? Mount a single unit to the outside of both sides of the cluster? House them under the cluster in between the steering wheel in that small viod?
cygnus x-1
05-27-2009, 07:47 AM
does it log air fuel ratio? even the logging gauges were going for more then that
If you just need to log AFR get one of these and use an old laptop.
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lc1.php
If you want an AFR display without the laptop you'll need separate gauge.
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2drSE-i
05-27-2009, 09:29 AM
actually not true anymore cygnus. you can actually hook the wifeband directly into an unused port on the ecu, and the tunerview is made to display it. this goes for pretty much any gauge you can think of, egt, ect etc
cygnus x-1
05-27-2009, 09:41 PM
actually not true anymore cygnus. you can actually hook the wifeband directly into an unused port on the ecu, and the tunerview is made to display it. this goes for pretty much any gauge you can think of, egt, ect etc
Eh? Unused port on the Honda ECU? I didn't realize they had unused ports. I assume it's just for OBD1 ECUs right? I know very little about Honda ECUs.
Very cool. But mostly I was talking about Lost's case where he has carbs and just wants to log AFR only.
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2drSE-i
05-28-2009, 04:40 AM
I'm a lil sketchy on the details on the unused port thing, but i know its been done. Yea, tunerview only works on obd1/2 ecus.
lostforawhile
05-28-2009, 05:57 PM
Eh? Unused port on the Honda ECU? I didn't realize they had unused ports. I assume it's just for OBD1 ECUs right? I know very little about Honda ECUs.
Very cool. But mostly I was talking about Lost's case where he has carbs and just wants to log AFR only.
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well i would like to log air fuel, rpm, and egt possibly. those are the main things i need to lay over each other to get the best picture,possibly oil temp too, that tells you a lot when you look at in in relation to rpm, if it's heating up at higer rpms the engine can be running lean and the excess heat goes into the oil and cooling system,
ummm i got some oil in the catch setup i did...after bout 1 1/2 weeks worth lol....i really want to do this thou....looks more legit then mine.. HOW TO HOW TO lol...how did you strap that bitch down anyway bro?.
I am starting the how to now. I may not get it all done ,I am going to have an Earlie day tomorrow.
I wire tied it to stay in place while i tested it. I am not sure if thats its final mounting spot.
I'm a lil sketchy on the details on the unused port thing, but i know its been done. Yea, tunerview only works on obd1/2 ecus.
yea there is a 3 or 4 pin port in the ecu that hard wire's to a usb cable. There is a how to install the rtp, but i do not remember where i saw it.
If you want to test drive the software here is a link to down load it.
you can also download a log and see how it works. http://www.hrtuning.com/software//
lostforawhile
05-28-2009, 09:29 PM
you forgot boost control and the tuner view.
http://www.hrtuning.com/photos/tvdash/smdashkit.jpg
That thing is fkn awesome! the boost control features are unreal. It is one of the best tuning hardware/software out there.
stay tuned, let's see if i can stay busy.
You sir are welcome.
yup! i had a brand new center section and stage3 63ar exhaust housing sitting in a box.lol
But I had to throw in a 60ar compressor housing and smaller wheel.
the up side is that it spools a hella lot faster and will support up to 350HP.
It is cool! I thought you were making conversation.
I want that tool box it's freakin cool.
could you do me a favor and remove the pic's?
the text is fine, but those pic's are huge.lol.
thank you.hey i found you the thread on the battery box http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67258
well I got a small update.
i was getting a simular noise as rendon posted about awhile back, i checked claerances and they were in spec.
i pulled the head off to port and polish it everything seemed fine, i got that done so i pulled the cam to remove the valves and i think i found the problem.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2945/jul110001.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/jul110001.jpg/)
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4405/jul110002.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/jul110002.jpg/)
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4795/jul110003.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/jul110003.jpg/)
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7151/jul110004.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/jul110004.jpg/)
sorry the pics suck.
the race's are all scratched to hell. the cam and head is ruined.
the noise is probably the cam moving around in the head.
it's time to start saving for another head, bishi cam and springs,and port and polish and valve job. 3 angle intake and 5 angle exhaust should do the trick.
Rendon LX-i
07-11-2009, 02:11 PM
Hold up brother...ill prolly end up getting that mount from you....and check your pms guy
Hold up brother...ill prolly end up getting that mount from you....and check your pms guy
checked and replied guy.
It seems the sale of the mount is now pending.
I went ahead and reworked my spare head , and opened it up as much as i could and still get a good seal on both intake and exhaust. I worked on it an hour or two a day till yesterday.I threw in new valve seals and such also. today i got most everything back together, but i got side tracked on a new project..... Once i finnish that project, it will get put back together.
Tdurr
07-18-2009, 09:42 PM
pics or it didnt happen.
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3702/jul160005.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/jul160005.jpg/)
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6571/jul130002.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/i/jul130002.jpg/)
I started with a gasket match of the a20 gasket(pic's above). I ended up getting a ls gasket and taking out a bunch more material. allot more than whats in these pic's.
sadly i did not get any pics of it done.
I'll get some of the exhaust later.
MessyHonda
07-19-2009, 07:55 AM
looks good on my next project i want to do something like that...just port it out to the b16 mani
you'd be amazed on how much bigger the b18/b16 ports are compared to the a20.
Hash_man_Se_i
07-19-2009, 10:24 AM
Damn, that tunerview II is freakin cool... And cheap.
Rendon LX-i
07-19-2009, 11:07 AM
fuck ya very cheap...so ask for a b series gasket and bam port match with a boring bit kit or w/e which is a little spendy but no worth it
MessyHonda
07-20-2009, 09:40 PM
you'd be amazed on how much bigger the b18/b16 ports are compared to the a20.
yeah i wish i had the money to port out the head to my mani but for now it will work.
fuck ya very cheap...so ask for a b series gasket and bam port match with a boring bit kit or w/e which is a little spendy but no worth it95 acura integra ls non vtec.
Damn, that tunerview II is freakin cool... And cheap.hells yeh!
anyone want to buy a 87 sammy lifted on 31's, i need's funds to finnish my project.
yeah i wish i had the money to port out the head to my mani but for now it will work.
diy. I spent $12 at hf for the bits and 6 to 8 hours of my time.
ooh! you guy's are going to hate me.:nervous:
I get bored and what do i do. I build another one. AHaHaHa!
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7415/jul260001k.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/jul260001k.jpg/)
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4432/jul260002.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/i/jul260002.jpg/)
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2091/jul260003.jpg (http://img195.imageshack.us/i/jul260003.jpg/)
it 's almost done, all i have left is the wastegate connection and finnish the down pipe.
:cool:
Tdurr the pic's are ther so it happened. lol!
Rendon LX-i
07-27-2009, 06:56 AM
LOL...what you need to do is start selling this bad boys bro....
Tdurr
07-27-2009, 06:03 PM
Tdurr the pic's are ther so it happened. lol!
damnit. lol. Very nice man.
MessyHonda
07-27-2009, 11:55 PM
you make me want to go turbo
LOL...what you need to do is start selling this bad boys bro....
if i did that everyone would be boosted.lol!
I dont think you guy's understand how time consuming / frustrating building a manifold from scratch is. who knows if i get off my ass i may offer logs.
damnit. lol. Very nice man.
I still forgot to post that exhaust port pic.lol
anyway i hear you are riding dirty at 9 psi. be careful with her.
you make me want to go turbo
there aint nothin to it but to do it.
you'd fall in love the first time out.
MessyHonda
07-28-2009, 07:22 PM
if i did that everyone would be boosted.lol!
I dont think you guy's understand how time consuming / frustrating building a manifold from scratch is. who knows if i get off my ass i may offer logs.
I still forgot to post that exhaust port pic.lol
anyway i hear you are riding dirty at 9 psi. be careful with her.
there aint nothin to it but to do it.
you'd fall in love the first time out.
i know my car can do it...but i just dont want the cops to take my car if they pull me over.....(screw california laws)
i know my car can do it...but i just dont want the cops to take my car if they pull me over.....(screw california laws)
yea cali laws suck. would they really take it, even if you are not street racing.
MessyHonda
07-30-2009, 01:30 PM
yea cali laws suck. would they really take it, even if you are not street racing.
yeah...i aready had a cop tell me to pop my hood...and was like you have ilegal headers...and then i just pointed out to him that the carb sticker was on the downpipe
AccordEpicenter
07-30-2009, 07:14 PM
looks awesome Jerry! You have a nicer version of my mani. The #4 runner is such a bitch, the motor mount is in the way... looks like you took your time. Cant wait to see it running
Rendon LX-i
07-30-2009, 09:25 PM
Damn that carb sticker is GOLD in cali....fucknig cops are dicks in cali
looks awesome Jerry! You have a nicer version of my mani. The #4 runner is such a bitch, the motor mount is in the way... looks like you took your time. Cant wait to see it running
dam man it's been awhile. Thanks, and yeah that number 4 runner sucked to figure out. After 6 hours of tacking and taking apart i decided to tack the down pipe on and just work around it. It gave me less room to work but i could keep it tight and be sure that the dp would fit easily.
i am looking forward to posting some stuff up soon.
Tdurr
07-31-2009, 04:26 PM
I still forgot to post that exhaust port pic.lol
anyway i hear you are riding dirty at 9 psi. be careful with her.
i haz no drugs in my car.:wtf:
i haz no drugs in my car.:wtf:
da drugz unda da hoodz. lol.
Tdurr
08-02-2009, 06:51 PM
soooo word on da skreets is dat ur honda runz...
soooo word on da skreets is dat ur Honda runz...
Tru Dat!
I need to pick up some insurance for 1 less thing to worry about while i re-tune.
I did some break assist pulls in the garage today and she seems pretty strong.
the plan is to hit a Friday night drag session, and a Saturday night circle track drag in one weekend.
the vids will probably be in car because I'll probably be by myself unless i can get my wife to go..
mushroom_toy
08-02-2009, 08:27 PM
I like that mani...its sexi...cant wait for a video. :)
MessyHonda
08-09-2009, 04:08 PM
yeah loooks very nice...what paint do you use so it does not rust?
Tdurr
08-10-2009, 04:31 PM
^^ wal mart brand spray paint. the 96cent sutff.
lol
yeah looks very nice...what paint do you use so it does not rust?
dei high temp header paint.
^^ walmart brand spray paint. the 96 cent stuff.
lol
^^^:slap:^^^
I like that mani...its sexi...cant wait for a video. :) thanks! I just picked up insurance today, and my daughter and i went for a stroll everything seems fine. i am having am issue with the waste gate not opening up. Not a big deal though i am sure I'll figure it out tomorrow..
Tdurr
08-12-2009, 02:05 PM
^^ rightous. once i put my 16g on wanna race?
Tdurr
08-12-2009, 07:54 PM
u come to me. lol.
my car would only get faster, droping elevation like that.lol
i got board so heres a small "lol" vid bumping the 2 step.
<a href="http://img190.imageshack.us/i/aug160002e.mp4/"><img
and a couple of pics
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6795/aug160001.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/i/aug160001.jpg/)
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/885/aug160002.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/aug160002.jpg/)
Rendon LX-i
08-16-2009, 04:02 PM
Fuck ya dude...im excited to get mine running this week lol....Great work. and i love the 2step....i wish i had it now.
sweet i cant wait to check you'r ride out. there is nothing like launching while you are already in boost.
if you are going to hit the track quite a bit i'd get one.
Tdurr
08-17-2009, 04:44 PM
i need 2 step. Hell i think my ignition box has it, but im not sure how it works...
Rendon LX-i
08-17-2009, 05:45 PM
time to sell my mallory and get me a mSd 6al 2....umm
Tdurr
08-18-2009, 07:26 PM
^^ get the summit brand box i got. its full digital, no pills and crap. just press a few buttons on the box and forget about it.
edit: just looked at the info on my box again, and no 2 step :( it was a 2 stage rev limiter sooo... yea.. oh well... i still shoot flames :D
^^ get the summit brand box i got. its full digital, no pills and crap. just press a few buttons on the box and forget about it.
edit: just looked at the info on my box again, and no 2 step :( it was a 2 stage rev limiter sooo... yea.. oh well... i still shoot flames :D
i'll re word it.
you do have a 2 step and all you need is a button or use the clutch switch.....
http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/instructions/sum-850604_rev022108.pdf
Mode 2 – This is the auxiliary RPM limiter, and it is activated when 12 volts is
applied to the ORANGE wire coming out of the end panel. The range is the same
as the Mode 1 RPM limiter. This RPML will over-ride the Mode 1 RPML when it is
active.
page 11 of you'r install guide.
:wave:research owns you!lol.
MessyHonda
08-20-2009, 12:33 AM
wow....anyways nice to see that you still are boasting accords
guaynabo89
08-23-2009, 08:41 PM
good work!
so what do you need yet to get this thing to where you want it to be?
good work!
so what do you need yet to get this thing to where you want it to be?
sorry I did not see that any one posted.
To answer the question, about $1000-$2000 more in parts.
i want to remove the commander and go neptune, wire tuck, bisi race cam/springs spare turbo-street cam and just clean up the engine bay. maybe a cop setup.
mykwikcoupe
10-30-2009, 09:06 PM
time to sell my mallory and get me a mSd 6al 2....umm
find something good to trade. Im not using mine and probably wont either. I can also include a new in box HKS EVC 4 if you have something(s) really cool for me. Mines a 6al
Rendon LX-i
10-30-2009, 11:28 PM
find something good to trade. Im not using mine and probably wont either. I can also include a new in box HKS EVC 4 if you have something(s) really cool for me. Mines a 6al
FUCK......i had a Apexi PROFEC boost controller that you prolly could of used that i would of traded...but I sold it for 180 easy LOL.....i bought it for 200.00 but o well. Things just happen nothing you can do about it......All i got is my mallory 6al. and its been rebuildt...cost me a good 100 bucks...now it works better then stock. but i rather spendt the money on a OBD1 convo....o well. :pc:
Mr. Rendon quit whoring up my thread! LOL! jk..
Well, the decommission of a dear Friend has begun.
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5894/dec260001.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/dec260001.jpg/)
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7122/dec260002.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/dec260002.jpg/)
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5970/dec260003.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/dec260003.jpg/)
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1412/dec260004.jpg (http://img69.imageshack.us/i/dec260004.jpg/)
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/6734/dec260005.jpg (http://img63.imageshack.us/i/dec260005.jpg/)
more to come....
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/2222/dec260009.jpg (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/dec260009.jpg/)
the last for the night.
All in all i had a pretty good day. I pulled the engine and trans and pulled the wiring mess out with the holly commander.
I want to get all the wiring returned back to stock, pull most of the stereo out and get the obd1 conversion harness finalized.
The motor will be gone through, check all clearances and install some new goodies....
Rendon LX-i
12-27-2009, 12:41 AM
LOL...haha i just like your build bro thats all damnit.. WEll i see you took out your motor to install goodies, redo your harness exc. wire tuck maybe. Damn man i need me a cherry picker LOL....i yet have one.
BTW im just like you i have a mess under my hood but yet alot of goodies. I just need to ger rid of half the shit i have under there.
BUT keep us updated man. Great work.
LOL...haha i just like your build bro thats all damnit.. Well i see you took out your motor to install goodies, redo your harness exc. wire tuck maybe. Damn man i need me a cherry picker LOL....i yet have one.
BTW I'm just like you i have a mess under my hood but yet alot of goodies. I just need to Get rid of half the shit i have under there.
BUT keep us updated man. Great work.
Ha Ha, It's all good...
I have a cherry picker but i don't use it lol... I throw a steel bar across 3 rafters and throw a 3 ft strap around it and attach a chain hoist to it. I ts a hell of a lot easier to use by you're self than the big bulky "shop crane" lol.
yup i am getting rid of anything that does not belong.
the btm is gone, the 2 step is gone, miscellaneous BS the factory put in is gone, bumper gone...... you get the point.
time to lose weight increase hp and hopefully hit the strip and post respectful numbers...
Tdurr
12-27-2009, 03:18 PM
mmmm 2 step.... i still need to hook mine up ugg.. lol
All that stuff may be up for sale soon. The holley commander950,ford-honda dizzy,
an accord altanator re-wire kit for use with the commander. Everything is dam near plug and play.
My civic may need some forced air so i may keep the btm and 2 step.
on a good note,
servion has my ecu chipping it as we speak, and the Neptune RTP/Demon
with Quad stage boost option is on the way!
Sorry, no tuner view yet. Although I may get 2 to replace the whole dash cluster later. Maybe..
I have not made a solid decision on the cam but the Bisi 2.4 looks really good! I got the rest of the obdo-obd1 dizzy conversion harness made along with the ecu conversion harness.
Sorry to the guy's with the adapter plates, I could not spend $300 in relation to 1 hour of my time to adapt the dizzy to the block.
All I had to do was clock the cam key 180 degrees. no drilling. It seems slightly advanced and I have a few degrees of adjustment. If there is a problem i can adjust the cam gear.
I'll post later on that when I reset timing.
On a down note.
I ran the numbers on my turbo to get a new compressor wheel. I got no e-mail reply or phone call from the company i got it from. So I was looking else where. I found out the "62-1" Is in fact not a 62-1 It is a 60-1 and i was fuming mad!....
It's been too long so what am i going to do! right!
I so happen to have a nice Schweitzer twin scroll 3lm-39 that is newly rebuilt and capable of 60+psi. It's off of a tank. (literally a fucking Bradly)
I have no doubt in my mind a 2.0l cant spool it. so I'll be selling it to fund a turbo with some big nut's that i can actually spool.
I was "thinking" of a he351 vgt ...2 stages of boost 4 stages of turbine housing!
If it works and it should spool/whine at idle. It might even create boost at idle...Idky but we "may" see.
If I can get a bad ass deal on a BB Garrett we wont see.
At this point I am looking at 1200cc(I still want to drive it on the street)injectors as i cant afford the Id1000's or (i wish to god) the Id2000's.......
I want you guys to know if i am running the 60-1 or the he351vgt . I am going to max out either the injectors,the turbo or the iron block..
so that's what i am up to..:beer:
nevermind I am done, for now.
There were 14 people layed off at work yesterday and 28 total so far. I am counting my blessing's I was not one of them.
I need to save what I got just in case. Family first.
Rendon LX-i
01-08-2010, 07:51 PM
I have to agree bro. family first hope it goes well bro. Im glad. I wanted to get layed off. but nope they wont......There like your to good of a worker to let go LOL....fucken ass holes. BUT a if they wanted you gone you would of already been gone. BUT i hope for the best and hope you get your beast running again SOON.
ShyBoyCA6
01-08-2010, 07:55 PM
yeah 89t family first man the car can be on hold for while it aint going nowhere and just pray that you stay man wish the best man good luck
Thanks guy's. The warm weather will come back and the work will pick up. I just hope it will pick up fast.
The Neptune should be here this week, and I did order the replcement wheel for my turbo and that should be here soon.
guaynabo89
01-14-2010, 07:56 PM
yeah man be careful and try not to make to many waves right now.
It seems those who bring the wrong attention to them when companies are looking to downsize a bit are the first to go.
Take care of yourself and fam.
thanks, I know what you are talking about.
Pretty much I keep to myself and do as i am asked.
well, I cashed some copper in, and i am ordering the bisimoto 2.4 cam with springs.
I am starting to like demolition.
2drSE-i
01-19-2010, 05:13 PM
well, I cashed some copper in, and i am ordering the bisimoto 2.4 cam with springs.
I am starting to like demolition.
I'm fairly certain finding copper is better than gold right now lol.
No lie, I cant wait for the next group of 60 houses.
guaynabo89
01-19-2010, 06:39 PM
yup coppers up there.
2.4 thats there race cam right? the hardweld or regrind?
That would be the race cam, hardweld.
http://bisimoto.net/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3_9_130&products_id=416
Did you do the springs?
guaynabo89
01-19-2010, 07:11 PM
no but if money allows I will. :)
It be nice if he had some titanium retainers as well.
yeah man it would be nice.
Here is a few updated pic's.
I cleaned the bay removed everything i could,and shot it with a coat of paint.
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/329/jan230001.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4080/jan230002.jpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5506/jan230003.jpg
They are shit pics, I'll try to get better ones tomorrow.
Rendon LX-i
01-23-2010, 05:39 PM
good work bro.......why black
I thought about red bay and gloss black exterior but i dont know..
You dont like the black?
Rendon LX-i
01-23-2010, 05:55 PM
well....IDK i was going to do that TO. i mean i like it but the engine bay wont pop. meaning you wont see anything. now i wanted to do it blue
The black works for me, being that i dont open my hood for just anyone and I dont like to show it off.. With the exception of sharing with you guy's.
I kinda like the all black'ed out look.
Rendon LX-i
01-23-2010, 06:50 PM
well i dont think there going to mess that big ass turbo and top mount lol
What are you'r thoughts on a water to air intercooler?
guaynabo89
01-23-2010, 08:44 PM
too much hassle for a street car. Unless you'd like that sort of thing.
Well, the reason I ask is because I want to run all new ic pipe. I was thinking about a radiator heat exchanger and a remote 5 galon Ice/water res.
maybe you are right, It is a bit of trouble.
guaynabo89
01-24-2010, 07:06 AM
it works well, and people use em on street cars. You just will never be able tto get into the car and just drive without checking the fluid.
I thought about it long and hard ss well, but in the end it was going to be too much trouble.
it works well, and people use em on street cars. You just will never be able tto get into the car and just drive without checking the fluid.
I thought about it long and hard ss well, but in the end it was going to be too much trouble.
thanks for the insight, I'll pass on the water/air for now...
well i got some better pic' this morning, and i have decided to repaint the entire car gloss black.
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8016/sammy001.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/sammy001.jpg/)
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9823/sammy002.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/sammy002.jpg/)
yes i did miss a spot lol. I am going to second coat it and double coat it with clear.
engine bay looks real nice man, nice work :thumbup:
Thanks man, It was quite a bit more dirty than i thought it was.
A couple of hours and some elbow greese is all it needed.lol
Tdurr
01-24-2010, 10:32 PM
nice. good to see ur still working on the car.
Rendon LX-i
01-25-2010, 08:46 AM
Water to air is pretty effective but IDK. like guaynabo said it will be a pain to get it all worked out. So why would you want to do that anyway? something wrong with you old setup? or is it just that since your engiine is pulled out you taught of it and wanted to do it? LOL 21 questions here. but im liking the gloss black thou
nice. good to see ur still working on the car.It is pretty nice to get to work on it. Working on my car is my only stress relief..
that's probably why it will never be done.
Water to air is pretty effective but IDK. like guaynabo said it will be a pain to get it all worked out. So why would you want to do that anyway? something wrong with you old setup? or is it just that since your engine is pulled out you taught of it and wanted to do it? LOL 21 questions here. but I'm liking the gloss black though
Well Rendon, the packaging of A 1000 hp water/air intercooler is a hell of alot smaller than that of a 650 hp air/air. lol.
My tuner seems to think we will max out at around 480-500 hp with that turbo and 1000-1200cc injectors. So I was looking for a solution. I just may max out what i have and then build it up from there. It will give me more time to figure out what i want. I have been looking for an air/air but the problem is that we are limited on space.
I got the idea of the gloss black engine compartment with the flat black body on new years eve in a thread that never caught on. well it did it's job, Cubert posted some pics of his ride.lol,:D I was drunk.
After seeing how it was coming out, I decided to repaint the whole car gloss black. I will probably paint it this weekend.
Also you guy's can ask what ever you like. It does not bother me a bit.
1 question or 21 questions it's all good.
I'll tell you guy's straight up, I am no pro-anything all i am is a guy who wants to learn and will take the chance on screwing something up to learn..
AccordEpicenter
01-25-2010, 04:47 PM
Air to water is very efficient for intercooling but for a street car its a hassle imo. Air to air is much larger for the same power level but each setup has its pros and cons, both are effective if set up properly. Have you considered going to a different core like this one? Vertical type cores flow more and have less pressure drop across them, and cool just about as well as horizontal type cores, Ive seen data that suggests that over 90% of all cooling occurs in the first 5-6" in of the core anyway... Not sure if this helps but its somthing to consider, it might flow enough to make the power you want and its a bit more compact in some dimensions than other fmics....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GODSPEED-FMIC-SPEC-A-INTERCOOLER-22X3X11-INTEGRA-ACCORD_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2c52ab0bdfQQitem Z190365502431QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fA ccessories
Air to water is very efficient for intercooling but for a street car its a hassle imo. Air to air is much larger for the same power level but each setup has its pros and cons, both are effective if set up properly. Have you considered going to a different core like this one? Vertical type cores flow more and have less pressure drop across them, and cool just about as well as horizontal type cores, Ive seen data that suggests that over 90% of all cooling occurs in the first 5-6" in of the core anyway... Not sure if this helps but its something to consider, it might flow enough to make the power you want and its a bit more compact in some dimensions than other fmics....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GODSPEED-FMIC-SPEC-A-INTERCOOLER-22X3X11-INTEGRA-ACCORD_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2c52ab0bdfQQitem Z190365502431QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fA ccessories
I looked at the intercooler you pointed out, but this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/godspeed-intercooler-type-z-26-5x10-5x3-neon-cavalier_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2eaa7b6a80QQit emZ200428710528QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5 fAccessories
would work out better for the mounting direction of my turbo.
I have heard that the vertical flow intercooler is more efficiant than the standard horizontal flow. I have time to ponder the delema, my cam and springs wont ship till at least 2/17/10. bisimoto is closed till the feb 2nd.
I must say my little johnyracecar intercooler held up nicely the last time we were on the dyno. lol.
I have to worry about the injectors before the intercooler.
edit: you can never think 2 far ahead.
I want to make the D series show down and IFO in pueblo, but f**ck I'll get 0 real seat time.
AccordEpicenter
01-26-2010, 06:50 PM
yeah i know what you mean. Im running a JRC 8" and im not sure exactly how much power itll support but it is a nice piece. My old custom coach fmic was very nice too. The vertical cores usually have a shorter path for the air to flow, so pressure losses are lower. Eventually, i might upgrade to one but for now ill stick with what i got.
guaynabo89
01-26-2010, 07:59 PM
I got a precision 350. bad move on my part. it was maxed out first time out.
get the biggest most efficient one you can get. that way when it comes time to step it up you wont have to replace.
dont go overly large though. if your goal is 450 hp dont get an intercooler with 1000 rated hp and like 3 1/2 - 4" inlet/outlets. Lol
mykwikcoupe
01-26-2010, 08:41 PM
I got a precision 350. bad move on my part. it was maxed out first time out.
get the biggest most efficient one you can get. that way when it comes time to step it up you wont have to replace.
dont go overly large though. if your goal is 450 hp dont get an intercooler with 1000 rated hp and like 3 1/2 - 4" inlet/outlets. Lol
how was it maxed out? I think we have a similar biuld except well yours is done and mines on the shelf in the garage still. I have a precision 3x8x26. Not sure what it was rated anymore its been so long. Yours would heat soak that quickly?
yeah i know what you mean. I'm running a JRC 8" and im not sure exactly how much power itll support but it is a nice piece. My old custom coach fmic was very nice too. The vertical cores usually have a shorter path for the air to flow, so pressure losses are lower. Eventually, i might upgrade to one but for now ill stick with what i got.
for some reason we were loging 20 degrees cooler than ambiant at 14 psi. with the jrc and the cts was weirdly stable for some reason..
he tuned my buddy's d16y8 before mine and mine stayed 20 degrees cooler after 4 runs and 4 psi difference. His intercooler was 2X the size of mine.
the state of 89turbo'ed.
everything is for sale..
LoL! no way! looking for at least a hx40 or better.
looking to run twin walbros.
eeee85 with ID!000's and water/air 3"in/out intercooler.
coupled with the neptune and bisimoto cam............................ it is on or broke lol.
everything is eithier here or on the way! cept the turbo.
I was buzzed last night. :)
I did not want to post all that till i was puttin it in. oh well.
I was going to try and paint the car this weekend but it seem's i have to work tomarrow.
that water/air intercooler is bad ass. all i need are the lines and a pump.
the cam and springs should be on the way back next week, so i am super pumped.
I removed the 70mm tb i had and opted for a omni 70mm tb for a better fit.
I do need to get new ic pipe and t bolt clamps.
my top mount may come up for sale here pretty soon. my 60-1 stage 3 housing wont fit.
AccordEpicenter
02-13-2010, 11:46 AM
I was buzzed last night. :)
my top mount may come up for sale here pretty soon. my 60-1 stage 3 housing wont fit.
That sucks... Thats why i sold my first mani, the comp housing was too big on the new turbo and wouldnt fit!! How much are you off by? Can you space out the flange a little bit or somthing? Top Mount>*
That sucks... Thats why i sold my first mani, the comp housing was too big on the new turbo and wouldnt fit!! How much are you off by? Can you space out the flange a little bit or somthing? Top Mount>*
well when i built the mani i used a stock t-bird exhaust housing with the 60-1 compressor housing to fit it.
for some reason both the stage 3 garrett housings i have (4 bolt and a 5 bolt ) shift the compressor towards the runners.so the compressor is hitting the #1 runner..
I can probably cut all 4 runners and add like 1 inch of pipe to each runner and make it work.
On the other hand it would give someone a chance to get another turbo a20 on the road.
I am also looking for a biger turbo so i may have to build another one anyways.
I got the exhaust done! LOL....
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4893/mar120010.jpg (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/mar120010.jpg/)
87roach
03-12-2010, 10:58 AM
That is one big pipe!
guaynabo89
03-12-2010, 11:05 AM
gonna suck when it rains though. :kekeke:
4" exhaust all the way bro...And with one of those flippy rain guard deals the rain is no more a problem! I'll be clownin fools at the tractor pull's...
LOL! I am just kidding...
I am going to try the 4" downpipe, then transition it to 3" for the street. I set the 90 there and thought that it would be funny to post it.
I was going to get a pic of the cam with my camera but it was dead.
guaynabo89
03-12-2010, 12:47 PM
Are you going to try and run the 4" under the oil pan or you going to transition after the 90?
Are you going to try and run the 4" under the oil pan or you going to transition after the 90?
I am going to try and run it under the oil pan. Then transition to the 3".
3" fits fine, but 4" is another animal in it's self.
I will build another manifold for the holset, I am thinking Of something shorter and easier to make.
Camshaft and springs are in, and i was working on installing the arp studs when my lil blondy asked me to come inside and hang out with her.
I was hopeing to get the engine back together and ready to go back in the car for tommarrow. I need to rework the driver side and rear mounts,and after that comes a new manifold.
Tdurr
03-12-2010, 07:35 PM
the bisi cam right? i wanna know how good it works...
the bisi cam right? i wanna know how good it works...
no problem, I am going to get it tuned on 91 octane gas and e85..
I am sure i will post dynos.
Tdurr
03-12-2010, 08:22 PM
how much power u looking to make running e85?
Rendon LX-i
03-13-2010, 12:12 AM
Damn son. You aint messing around LOL. thats tight bro
MessyHonda
03-13-2010, 02:03 AM
nice work...i cant wait to see vids of your ride
nice guys!
On a side note after the cam install the engine has become an interference motor.
I sent A20A1 the cam spec's to put it in the FAQ. 0.451/0.503 lift...
Tdurr
03-13-2010, 12:36 PM
really? so doppin valves isnt a good plan lol
not good at all!
I have to clear coat the engine bay next. The engine is done except for some wiring and installing the injectors. Ill get that done after the engine is in.
edit: never mind watching the paint dry.:)
Tdurr
03-13-2010, 05:41 PM
update now?!?
update the the tranny is mounted and engine is in...
I'll get some pics in a lil while, I'm dog tired!
I fucked up a axle boot so i'll have to get one tomarrow. I was so pissed...
All this shit is the easy shit too.
On a side note, the o2 sensor wires are sheilded right?
Seeing that I am going obd1 i need extra wires for the dizzy, but I am running the AEM wideband whitch i get the signal from the guage. The wires are useless right now.
I'll have those wires as extra's and also 3 egr wires as extra's.
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8490/manifold010.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/manifold010.jpg/)
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9051/manifold016.jpg (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/manifold016.jpg/)
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7368/manifold021.jpg (http://img682.imageshack.us/i/manifold021.jpg/)
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/2971/manifold023.jpg (http://img682.imageshack.us/i/manifold023.jpg/)
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5467/manifold015.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/manifold015.jpg/)
sorry the shop is a bit dirty...and some of the pic's suck.
Looking good.
I think this is the first time I've seen your Accord
are you sure! I changed my name from 89turbo'ed...
I have/had a build thread in forced induction...
Your right. I have seen It :uh:
My memory is starting to go
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56557
I went and found a reminder..lol!
that is not the actual first post though...
wtf!
cygnus x-1
03-14-2010, 12:22 AM
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5467/manifold015.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/manifold015.jpg/)
sorry the shop is a bit dirty...and some of the pic's suck.
What kind of injectors are those? And what are the other little pieces?
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Rendon LX-i
03-14-2010, 12:25 AM
Looks like the ones that are really expensive.
Civic Accord Honda
03-14-2010, 03:38 AM
hi :)
Those are bosh injectors, ID1000's to be exact. there good for about 1600cc @ 100 psi fuel pressure. the little deals are adapter's for the b seiries intake.
Rendon LX-i
03-14-2010, 11:37 AM
thats why i said really expensive. Those the ones im going to get WHEN i get back on road
hi :):welcome:
thats why i said really expensive. Those the ones im going to get WHEN i get back on road
What's wrong with you'r car?:confused:
Tdurr
03-14-2010, 11:51 AM
What's wrong with you'r car?:confused:
x2.
and its looking good. what intake is that? skunk 2?
guaynabo89
03-14-2010, 12:09 PM
yeah they're shielded.
i see that water to air. I take it you going all aout race huh. :)
nice bisi cam too. When do you think your going to be done with the new setup?
x2.
and its looking good. what intake is that? skunk 2?
It's a Skunk2 with a omni 70mm TB.
yeah they're shielded.
i see that water to air. I take it you going all out race huh. :)
nice Bisi cam too. When do you think your going to be done with the new setup?
Great! There's no need to run any new wires in....:biggrin:
I figure I don't drive it often so this is the next step, plus I use to have a passion for drag racing. I lost it along the way and I am trying to get that passion back.. I'll still street it though.
Ill try the air/water intercooler for now, I am sure I'll like it.
I am hoping to be done by the end of the month if money allows.
Tdurr
03-14-2010, 01:07 PM
hmmm i want a intake set up but its alot of money lol.
but i hope its done by the end of the month. should be a kick ass set up.
I got my fingers crossed.
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