The Journey 89 turbo'ed-----89T

[Civic Accord Honda]

:welcome:



may i come over and perform sexual intercourse with your turbo manifold? :kekeke:

[MessyHonda]

wow...your accord makes me want to turbo mine

[Tdurr]

^^ u should.

[89T]

wow...your accord makes me want to turbo mine
how many times do we need to have this conversation.

do it! my top mount may be for sale for the right price. so pm me a offer.
down pipe included 5 bolt t3.

[89T]

may i come over and perform sexual intercourse with your turbo manifold? :kekeke:
f**k no!
If you want to learn some new stuff, come on up here.:)

[cygnus x-1]

Those are bosh injectors, ID1000's to be exact. there good for about 1600cc @ 100 psi fuel pressure. the little deals are adapter's for the b seiries intake.


Holy balls. Are you running alcohol then?


C|

[MessyHonda]

how many times do we need to have this conversation.

do it! my top mount may be for sale for the right price. so pm me a offer.
down pipe included 5 bolt t3.

im b20 tho

[Tdurr]

ur b20? well boost should be easy then!

[89T]

Holy balls. Are you running alcohol then?


C|e85


im b20 tho


ur b20? well boost should be easy then!
lol! hE's right.

[89T]

what do you guy think about the placement?

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I am not married to the placement, but so far this is the best fit without making the the charge pipes too long.

I could go the way everybody else does but, I don't like the turbo right behind the radiator.
If thats the best way to go convince me.

[Rendon LX-i]

looks good man. Thatst going to be one sick manifold

[Tdurr]

eh, I mainly have mine the way i do cuz of the DP placement and the charge pipe off the turbo faces a weird way. (not straight down like its supposed to, it hits my hood latch bracket)

[guaynabo89]

is that the compressor housing your going to be using?

[89T]

yeah, I'll be waiting on flanges so I may see if i can find a different compressor housing. So far it's not bad. The bend allows for the turbo to get around radiator with 3 inch charge pipe.
I would rather not have 2 bends right at the turbo.

[Tdurr]

i would try and get a different compressor housing for sure. it just looks wrong facing the front of the car like that.

[Rendon LX-i]

im getting the same turbo here in a week or so. but the one im getting is a straight snout with a vband style lip which im going ti grind off the lip so i can run a cupler over it. You have the hx40 correct. maybe getting a hx35 comp housing.

[89T]

Sadly It is not a hx40. My conversation with the seller led me to belive it was a he351 whitch i would be very happy with. It ended up being a Hy35.
I figure I'll try it, for now. Maybe.. I still might sell it on ebay.
I have been looking fo a different housing but nothing yet.

From what i read it will hold it's own at 450hp so i don't know.

[Rendon LX-i]

then you might have to sell it to me if i dont get that one i want. PM for price

[AccordEpicenter]

hy35 will support 450+hp but ive never seen another compressor housing than the one you have as far as the compressor outlet orientation... still a nice turbo though. Can you cut and re weld the compressor outlet to have it point in a different direction or is that too much work? you might be better off with an hx35 with its bigger twin scroll turbine... the hy35 9cm turbine housing is a bit on the small side, spools fast but becomes restrictive at high boost. what are your goals jerry? An HX40 might be a bit on the large side...

[89T]

then you might have to sell it to me if i dont get that one i want. PM for price
:welcome:


hy35 will support 450+hp but Ive never seen another compressor housing than the one you have as far as the compressor outlet orientation... still a nice turbo though. Can you cut and re weld the compressor outlet to have it point in a different direction or is that too much work? you might be better off with an hx35 with its bigger twin scroll turbine... the hy35 9cm turbine housing is a bit on the small side, spools fast but becomes restrictive at high boost. what are your goals jerry? An HX40 might be a bit on the large side...

I want 600hp, will i get it? not with this turbo. I may get it with a hx, but that will mean holding out longer. The best I'd get with the 60-1 is 480-490hp with the larger exhaust housing, and will run out at about 25psi. The hy can run 30-35psi but may run out on the top end also.
I am running the fi tranny with shorter gears than the carb tranny. So I am hoping for a wash of sorts.
what do you think?

I don't even know how the cam is going to act so It's all up in the air till then.:)

[AccordEpicenter]

The 60-1 is an older design, good, but there are more efficient turbos out there, and the HY wont cut it due to the restrictive exhaust housing, so you might be fine with somthing as big as an HX40, or GT35R, or a Precision SC61-S trim (the SC61S has a similar compressor section as a GT35R without ball bearings or without the extreme cost for that matter) so a turbo change is inevitable for 600hp. I recall a 5G accord with a built H22 making like 620whp with a GT42R or GT40R turbo, im not really sure which. At this point I really wouldnt worry about going real short with the gearing, with the longer final drive youll be in boost longer and putting more load on the engine which can help with spooling up a big turbo.. but really either tranny is fine. If it makes a difference to you i have an lx-dx tranny in my car now instead of my old lxi trans.

[Rendon LX-i]

My Garrett is 550-600hp compatible. Get a hc1 Holset you'll reach that range easliy with that turbo

[Tdurr]

shit u guys are shooting for 600whp in ur accords now?! wtf i thought it was like a goal of 400hp goal...

[Rendon LX-i]

was. LOL. See theres a problem there bro. WAS LOL

[Rendon LX-i]

TIMMY its time for a 18g for you LOL

[89T]

I may be wrong but,I thought the hx35 was comparible to the gt35r.
I may have a line on a hx35, but i wont know till the weekend.

tim-----> http://www.turbosystem.com/auto/Super%2020G%20Universal.htm

[AccordEpicenter]

GT35R can support more power than HX35, say 520hp to 650hp.... But it depends what compressor wheel the HX35 has, some had 7 fins some had 8. The 8 fin hx35s were good to around 520 and the 7s were good to nearly 600. The HX40s were like that too, 8 fin was like 600 and the 6 or 7 was good to almost 700hp. If you had an HX40 you should have more than enough turbo. Im gonna see how well my engine responds to boost, and break it in, get some tuning done, then going for high boost. My setup is 600hp capable but im gonna be conservative and try for 500 if I feel like the engine can do it without really stressing it

[Tdurr]

I may be wrong but,I thought the hx35 was comparible to the gt35r.
I may have a line on a hx35, but i wont know till the weekend.

tim-----> http://www.turbosystem.com/auto/Super%2020G%20Universal.htm

rofl i aint gonna go all drag here son. im driving this car too and from college so i need it simi reliable haha.

[guaynabo89]

. Im gonna see how well my engine responds to boost, and break it in, get some tuning done, then going for high boost. My setup is 600hp capable but im gonna be conservative and try for 500 if I feel like the engine can do it without really stressing it


says the guy who hasn't updated us on his plans in like 4 years!


;)

[89T]

says the guy who hasn't updated us on his plans in like 4 years!


;)
:popcorn:

:)

[AccordEpicenter]

says the guy who hasn't updated us on his plans in like 4 years!


;)

lol. Just cause i havent posted doesnt mean there isnt progress

[89T]

lol. Just cause i haven't posted doesn't mean there isn't progress:cheers:

Weren't you quite the vid whore when i first joined?lol..

FYI: Jason did update us some when he was nominated for AOM.:wave:


rofl i aint gonna go all drag here son. im driving this car too and from college so i need it simi reliable haha.

See theres you'r problem.. you're supposed to buy a civic to get you'r ass around! then you tuck a 3g into the garage to mod and race..fuck do we have to teach you everything.:)!

[89T]

still nothing on the hx35, but i am hoping for the best. The manifold is waiting on that.

Wiring wise i'll look most of that tommarow and mount the battery and fuse box behind the fender.

I have to run 1 wire for the dizzy, and wire up the boost solenoid.(make sure i did not miss anything.)
pull all the amps out and rewire the stereo. No pre-amps, amps, x-overs, 6 speakers leaving 4 .. ect.

[Tdurr]

sound systems. yay!

[89T]

sound systems. yay!
4-10's 2-8's 2-6's 2- neodymium tweets...3 amps... adding cheap rears. no more bumps! lol.

[Tdurr]

i need some front speakers and tweeters and ill be good to go again!

[89T]

i need some front speakers and tweeters and ill be good to go again!
way off topic..,.what u got for amps and subs?

[Tdurr]

i forgot the amp brand, but its a 1000w something, i think power xxxxx, and my amp is a Solo baric L5.
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old pic. i have a new amp now.

/thread jack.

[AccordEpicenter]

did you guys ever get metered? My old setup was like 147db at the dash with my old 1200d amp... 1200wrms @ 1ohm

[Tdurr]

^^ metered, no. im pretty sure my amp doesnt give the L5 enough juice. hell i havent even finished the box on the bottom lol.

[89T]

Metered, no. This was no bass qween by any means. I was After sound quality and volume. The 6's and 8's that i mentioned are in the rear deck for mid-range/mid-bass with another pair of 6's in the front doors.


And an up date as to wth i am doing. I will not build a nother manifold till I get a turbo that will meet my goals or i decide it's good enough. So yesterday i made a wedge that fits the in between top mount manifold and the 60-1(the holeset is way too big). It looks like it may seal up fine. I don't know if i Should just cut the flange off and weld it in there, and weld the flange back on?

the wiring is pretty close, The only real suck of it was running a map sensor wire from the passenger side fender into the car, and back out to the manifold. I guess i could have just wired it directly to the ecu.
I want this car done already.:)

[AccordEpicenter]

Yeah i sold my setup a while back, and I still have the 135 amp rewound alternator but I want to go back to stock. When driving, the lights never really dimmed with this alt, even though my amp was drawing a solid 80+ amps at times (would pop 75 amp fuses like zits) It put out alot of power. Problems is, it doesnt put out alot of power at idle, but at around 1800rpm you had lots of power. I think I might go back to a stock alternator because I really dont need 135 amps worth of alternator anymore, and the added power at Idle might be nice with the small ass battery. Im working on finishing up some of the wiring for my car today...

[guaynabo89]

Maybe get the Legend alt. I'm still running one. I think its like 90 amps??

I never got metered on my system, but with 2 12's and 2 10's inch solobarics I used to be able to stop peoples breathing. Had to get my front window redone too. The 12's went to my wifes car and the 10's are waiting to make it back into the hatch one day.

[89T]

I got to do some work on the car yesterday. Mainly,I did the intercooler mock up and started fitting the battery under the right fender.
I mounted a tranny cooler for the water/air intercooler also.

I decided to modify the top mount to accept the stage 3 turbine housing also.

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[89T]

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[89T]

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rear deck and 6"-8" kickers
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[Rendon LX-i]

Shit that looks good bro. Great progress

[89T]

thanks, Bro! :) I am brazing the pipes together since I cant afford a tig, or to have someone else tig it. It's only 2 spots that wont be seen. Unless, I roll without the bumper cover..

braze-sand-buff-polish...
I hope it comes out looking good.

[bullard123]

That looks clean Jerry!

[Rendon LX-i]

lol.....nothing you cant handle.

[87roach]

Damn dude that's some huge progress, this thing is going to be a BEAST!

Can't wait for more! Also let us know how the brazing goes.. I am in the same situation for the tig.

[Tdurr]

I CAN TIG!

not very good tho lol.

that intake manifold, what sensors did u get rid of when u put it on?

[89T]

update.

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[Tdurr]

is ur front bumper gonna fit man??

[AccordEpicenter]

very nice! I didnt even think about putting the battery there either

[Tdurr]

put the batt in the trunk. putting the batt there seems soo unsafe imo.

[89T]

I CAN not very good TIG!

lol. fixer-ed.

that intake manifold, what sensors did u get rid of when u put it on?all, but learning how to realign the flux capacitor while going back to a Honda ecu..


lol.....nothing you cant handle.
seen my spelling right? LOL!


Damn dude that's some huge progress, this thing is going to be a BEAST!

Can't wait for more! Also let us know how the brazing goes.. I am in the same situation for the tig. Hell if my gramer and spelling are good I have nothing to fear. LOL...
their are noticeable differences, and I'll tune you in later.


is ur front bumper gonna fit man??
Bro.. I did not think of that .:nervous::nervous:

actually the intercooler was going to bein the area where the bumper was but a friend of mine rearended someone recently and changed my mind.


very nice! I didn't even think about putting the battery there either:nervous: You will massage the metal...LOL.:cool: did you notice the cut off switch?


put the batt in the trunk. putting the batt there seems soo unsafe imo. explain?

[Tdurr]

Bro.. I did not think of that .:nervous::nervous:

actually the intercooler was going to bein the area where the bumper was but a friend of mine rearended someone recently and changed my mind.

:nervous: You will massage the metal...LOL.:cool: did you notice the cut off switch?

explain?

ur explanation is bolded.

and did u really not thing about the IC pipes not fitting under the bumper???:squint:

[89T]

ur explanation is bolded.

and did u really not thing about the IC pipes not fitting under the bumper???:squint:
Sorry i was buzzed last night.
I knew they would fit, but what i really wanted to do was slide the intercooler under there too.
The bumper cover fit's over the pipes nice.You cant even tell that they are there with the bumper cover on.

why would you not put the battery there?

I removed everything that was attached to the stock manifold including the black box. I then ran new wires to the map sensor from the firewall area to the gm 3bar map sensor that is mounted under the manifold. you still need the iat,map,throttle position and the idle air control valve.. I think i am missing something though.

[89T]

Damn dude that's some huge progress, this thing is going to be a BEAST!

Can't wait for more! Also let us know how the brazing goes.. I am in the same situation for the tig.
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4381/intercooler024.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/i/intercooler024.jpg/)


As you can see in the pic there are 2 spots i brazed together.
The spot in the middle of the car came out pretty good except I didn't Polish it enough. On the drivers side I had to braze it on the bend.

Let me explain. That particular bend was a U bend, and you know U bends are not perfectly round .

the brazing actually works very well, not the prettiest thing till you sand it smooth and Polish it. I purposely tried to break it and it held up fine.
I picked the stuff up at harbor freight and spent about $20 for the rods and polishing kit. Was it worth it. I think so.

[2drSE-i]

why would you not put the battery there?


Because in a wreck you either have a 60 Lb projectile :eek: or a damaged battery. Youd have to hit somethin pretty hard to hit it where you have it mounted, and i assume how you have it mounted is pretty solid. I think if you smacked it hard enough to damage the battery the battery would be your last worry anyway.


On those pipes, just be sure you won't have leaks.

[89T]

Because in a wreck you either have a 60 Lb projectile :eek: or a damaged battery. Youd have to hit somethin pretty hard to hit it where you have it mounted, and i assume how you have it mounted is pretty solid. I think if you smacked it hard enough to damage the battery the battery would be your last worry anyway.


On those pipes, just be sure you won't have leaks.

Yes sir, The battery is still in the process of being mounted and will be solid.

When all is said and done i am going to pressure check all the piping and intercooler as one.:thumbup:

[Tdurr]

lol @ u being buzzed.
mani sounds like good stuff, i wanna do that.

as far as the batt, i dono i guess its a personal thing, i really dont know why but i dont think its safe there. but do wut u gotta do! ur car is gonna be sick!

[89T]

lol @ u being buzzed.
mani sounds like good stuff, i wanna do that.

as far as the batt, i dono i guess its a personal thing, i really dont know why but i dont think its safe there. but do wut u gotta do! ur car is gonna be sick!
Right on :)
Remember that i dont drive it all that much, so it should be fine.

[Tdurr]

true.. well more power too ya!!! i wanna see u hit like 3453058320million hp wit ur set up.

[guaynabo89]

all 3 inch piping?

[89T]

Yes sir, I went with all 3". I know it's an overkill.

[89T]

Tonight I am working towards finishing the w/a intercooler brackets, and the battery tray.

[Tdurr]

no pics no care.

[89T]

I got's you some pic's son.

No J/K..lol, I need to make 1 more bracket for the battery. then i'll post pic's

[AccordEpicenter]

nice progress. makes my setup look hacked haha. Dont you love all the custom work needed to make stuff fit?

[89T]

nice progress. makes my setup look hacked haha. Dont you love all the custom work needed to make stuff fit?
Thanks, and It would'nt be so bad if all the little stuff didn't take so long to make..

speaking of little stuff. I got the battery in.

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[89T]

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[2drSE-i]

How far off the ground is that? Not that it matters, just curious.

[89T]

The bottom of the tray is 7.25" . The front cross member is lower than the battery tray.

[Pico]

Like the way you mounted the battery Jerry.
Is the bumper going to fit over the fuse box

[89T]

Like the way you mounted the battery Jerry.
Is the bumper going to fit over the fuse box
Hey Roger, The bumper cover fits nicely over the fusebox. It's tight though. There is a spot you have to adjust with a hammer but its not much. Iam glad you like it.

tomarrow I'll see if i can get some pics with out the battery in there.

the adjustment (lol) is just to the right of the gold bolt.
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[Tdurr]

more power to ya. Not a fan of it but shit if it works it works!

u just need to get the damn motor finished so u can have some videos of it running.

[89T]

more power to ya. Not a fan of it but shit if it works it works!

u just need to get the damn motor finished so u can have some videos of it running.
no worries bro it works....I need to find somebody who can do some real video.


getting the w/a lines ran tonight.

[Tdurr]

im sure u can hit up craigslist for some videos ahahaha.

[89T]

wtf?

[Tdurr]

if u need vidoes of ur car, make a craigslist add and someone will do it for a small fee.

[89T]

OOOOh! Lol..
more pics soon.

[Tdurr]

lol i bet he made a cragslist ad

[89T]

hahaha.. no, no sir i did not. funny though.

[89T]

I thought about doing this..

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no, I don't think so.

It started something like this.

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So hows it look?
I need to drill some holes and tie the hoses up but thats about it.
tonight I need to sit down and make a list on things that need to get done.

[Tdurr]

thats pretty damn cool man. i want one.

[Rendon LX-i]

o snaps. meth injection. sweet

[89T]

Naw bro, It's for the ice/water that runs to the intercooler. I am not going to need meth injection with E85.

I figured I would save some money and use a 5 gallon fuel cell I have had sitting on the shelf doing nothing. I know I am a cheap ass. :)

[89T]

weekend bump!
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[89T]

the more i get done I realize i still have alot to do. fuck it I'll take my time.

[Hash_man_Se_i]

Wow... Your build is coming along great! I can't wait to see what kind of power this setup puts down, thats a pretty damn big turbo and charge piping.

I really like the liquid to air intercooler setup and the resevoir setup in the trunk turned out great.

[Rendon LX-i]

Good job

[89T]

Wow... Your build is coming along great! I can't wait to see what kind of power this setup puts down, thats a pretty damn big turbo and charge piping.

I really like the liquid to air intercooler setup and the resevoir setup in the trunk turned out great.thanks man! I hope it puts down some decent power.


Good jobthanks rendon.

[Tdurr]

i hate you. i gotta do more to my car everytime i see urs.

but looks great man. how much u looking to make right?

[89T]

i hate you. i gotta do more to my car everytime i see urs.

but looks great man. how much u looking to make right?

I want atleast 5 but i'll take what i can get.

Down pipe...

3" of course, but i am debating on regular aluminized or full aluminum. I have extra 3" pipe from the intercooler kit so all i would need is a 02 bung and a aluminum v-band kit.

[AccordEpicenter]

uhh... aluminum downpipe jerry? I think full race did one like that and it melted.

[89T]

I heard people were doing it , but never really looked into it. lol.
Its ok though, I have to wait for the weeknd before i do any thing to it.

[guaynabo89]

yeah I saw a couple of pics of melted alum downpipes.

I do believe after the axles aluminum would be fine. Would be some real weight savings there. Your not going to run a full exhaust though are you?

[89T]

yeah I saw a couple of pics of melted alum downpipes.

I do believe after the axles aluminum would be fine. Would be some real weight savings there. Your not going to run a full exhaust though are you?
yeh i want to run my 3" exhaust.I may get a cutout or just drop the exhaust before i go to the track.

I think i need like a 2x 4' piece's if i do the back half in aluminum. I'll defenatly look into that.

[89T]

OK bitches she runs, and revs freely!
Got only 1 code, code 8 tdc sensor.
I'll check the dizzy wiring later or tomorrow. I still need to wire the boost solenoid and weld in the BOV. I used a d series dizzy and it was close as fuck to be easy to mod, but it was not close enough. i ended up having to drill new holes in the cam key and the dizzy shaft. the reason being, i would only have to wallow out the stock hole about a 1/8 of an inch. that's too much play on the pin.

I was looking forward to D-series showdown and IFO-pueblo this year, but I have no cash for tuning. next year i guess.

[guaynabo89]

pics?

[AccordEpicenter]

what plug wires are you using?

[89T]

I'll get some pics soon. You are talking more of the dizzy right?

I am using the accel universal v8 kit.

[89T]

well went out to the garage, and nothing going with the code.

I checked the TDC sensor at the dizzy and from the ecu and it checked fine. Also I checked continuity on 1 wire from the bay to the ecu to make sure it was wired right and it was. I am running out of idea's. Next, I am going to check if it pulses.

[89T]

Feeling the love around here.

the sensor pulses. i am going to reverse the wires .. So my lil bud who said the distributer was off a d series was wrong, its from the 4 gen accord. aahemm! I cant find the fkn link right now. td34u.

[Rendon LX-i]

It was. really umm. i have the same dizzy and its off a civic dx. But there both almost idincate bro. So my bad. like akon says you can but the blame on me LOL

[89T]

I did not blame you! lol...
It's my job to research what I build.

[guaynabo89]

when you post up that it's running again you'll get the love. Lol


you ran the wiring yourself?

[89T]

ooh it runs , but when it goes into limp mode it's the suck.... lol. It sounds hella good too.
yeah i did everything my self so it's all my fault (laughing out loud).

[89T]

TD01U Civic 88-91 (1.5L)
TD02U & TD18U Civic 88-91 Si (1.6L) & CRX 88-91 Si (1.6L)
TD22U Civic 88-91 JDM B16A (Japanese Spec.)
TD41U Civic 92-95 (1.5L)
TD42U Civic 92-95 Si (1.6L)
TD43U Civic ZC Engine (2nd Gen. ZC)
TD80U Civic 96-98 (1.6L Non-VTEC)
TD63U & TD73U Civic 99-00 Si DOHC VTEC (1.6L)
TD31U & TD34U Accord 90-91
TD52U Accord 92-93
TD58U Accord 94-95 (2.2L)
TD76U Accord 96-97 (2.2L)
TD89U Accord & Prelude Type S DOHC VTEC H22A
TD77U Prelude 97-02 VTEC
TD59U Prelude 92-96 non-VTEC (2.2L)
TD60U Prelude 92-96 JDM VTEC (2.2L Internal Coil)
TD61U Prelude 92-96 VTEC (2.2L) & 92-96 non-VTEC (2.3L External Coil)
TD97U CRV 99 & up (2.0L)


ACURA

TD03U Integra 88-89 (1st Gen. ZC) (1.6L)
TD23U & TD24U Integra 90-91 (1.8L)
TD44U & TD68U Integra GSR / 92-95 JDM B16A
TD55U Integra 92-93 (1.8L)
TD81U & TD84U Integra GSR 96-02 & JDM B18C
TD86U & TD87U Type R 96-02 & Civic SiR 99-02
TD85U Integra 96-98 (1.8L & CRV 96-98 (2.0L)

[89T]

ok so i swaped the wires and the cel goes on instantly. I swaped them back, and i will try another distributer tomarrow.

[guaynabo89]

you check the ecu as well?

[89T]

I pulled the cover and nothing looks bad. There are no other cel codes coming up at all. What else should i look for?

I have to make sure I did the sensor check test's right. Well, because i used the information in the civic book for those and not the 4g accord book.

[89T]

wow, I modded a po6 / 92 civic dizzy today in hopes of getting the old girl running and got a cel the car would barely run, and at that point my laptop was in the house.
I threw on the old one and swapped the cam key 180 degrees as well as the plug wires, and still come up with the code 8. I guess the next step will be pull the engine harness and check all wiring.

The shit of it is it doesn't throw a code while it is idling. the code comes after it is revved.

any ideas guy's?

[guaynabo89]

sorry man. its been like 7 years since i had to deal with all that, so im drawing a blank.

only thing I can suggest is to basicly run the sensor wires for each sensor sraight from the plug at the dizzy to the ecu and just let the wires rest over the motor to test.

[Rendon LX-i]

so it is a civic Dizzy. WOOT lol. see im waiting on you before i starting tearing into my dizzy.....I want to see a vid of your ride smashing

[89T]

sorry man. its been like 7 years since i had to deal with all that, so I'm drawing a blank.

only thing I can suggest is to basically run the sensor wires for each sensor straight from the plug at the dizzy to the ecu and just let the wires rest over the motor to test.No doubt, I'll get some wire tomorrow and give that a try. thanks.


so it is a civic Dizzy. WOOT LOL. see I'm waiting on you before i starting tearing into my dizzy.....I want to see a vid of your ride smashing
Yeah I am trying both dizzys, the 4g and the civic.
here some idling vids. let me put it on youtube better.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvU3VlXM5KA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hHAC1zO-_4

their nothing much except for some hope.

[89T]

OK, I think i figured it out!
pin out checked by AccordEpicenter Thanks Jason
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2842/17872520.png

d1--->a17 I forgot to add this in the picture.
Note: the original oxygen wires are used for the distributer wiring. You must tie a21/a22 together and run a single wire to the yellow/green at the distributer.
distributer....................stock harness

blue/yellow...................(o2 wire) blue
blue/green....................(o2wire) Grey
yellow/green..................run to the ecu
match the rest up.

Also I am running a Aem wideband o2 hence only 1 o2 wire.

Now down to where "I" made a mistake. No excuses.

B15 ckpp and b16 ckpm were wired back wards. Not in the pin out but physically. The interesting part was the ecu threw a code 8 in turn a tdc code. That threw me for a loop, I never bothered checking those ckp/ckm connections.

The car has since fired up , idled smooth, rev-ed freely with out codes....On a base map.



sorry man. its been like 7 years since i had to deal with all that, so I'm drawing a blank.

only thing I can suggest is to basically run the sensor wires for each sensor straight from the plug at the dizzy to the ecu and just let the wires rest over the motor to test.

Deep down this was something that I knew I had to do, but I was being lazy. I ended up tracing all the wires from plug to plug all the way to the ecu.

thanks for the help, Everyone.
:banghead: time to start wiring the rest of it up.

[Rendon LX-i]

O HELL YA. good to hear. you gave me hope bro. We need to talk. Ill pm you

[89T]

sounds good Rendon.

Turns out the boost control is easy to wire up, as well as brake and clutch switch. I'll be getting those done today hopefully.

[Rendon LX-i]

Post vid

[89T]

Ordered something today! something in billet.


ooh and thread bump!

[Rendon LX-i]

sweet

[89T]

http://i16.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/38/b5/0149_12.JPG

[MessyHonda]

looks interesting

[89T]

very, it's capable of 700+ hp. SC6262SP

[Tdurr]

good god. 700??? do it.

[A18A]

lets see you use it to its full potential :D

[89T]

I'll be happy with 500, with room to grow.

[89T]

1 day away!

http://i21.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/38/b0/92c7_35.JPG

[Pico]

WOOT:rockon:

[89T]

I had to chase the ups man down(lol), I got it!
I may need a 2.5" to 3" v-band adapter, but that will be it. Hopefully i'll get it in and tuned soon.

[Tdurr]

want me to fly up there and help u get it running? only thing is i gotta drive it rofl

[guaynabo89]

I like!

what are d specs on dat one?

[89T]

want me to fly up there and help u get it running? only thing is i gotta drive it roflsure, come on up here.


I like!

what are d specs on dat one?

T3 .63 A/R V-Band / Ported S-compressor cover (.70ar)
Compressor Wheel billet: Inducer 2.44" (62mm) Exducer 3.310" (84mm)

[89T]

the garage is now clean and the hours at work are slowing down or at least should be.

I ordered all the extra parts i need to complete the build.

[Tdurr]

oh snap. lmk once all the parts are there! ill fly out and get my hands dirty haha

[89T]

No problem Tim, I'll let you know.:)

[Tdurr]

i feel bad, but idk ur name lol.

[89T]

jerry, lol.

[89T]

where the hell are you tim?

Was i supposed to buy the plane ticket?:dunno:

[89T]

I may have to wait 1 more week, to run it. The freakin oil pan weld in bung did not make it this week.

[AccordEpicenter]

I used a weld in bung from home depot. Is that an SC6176SP or SC6152SP? I have an SC6152S...

[89T]

I used a weld in bung from home depot. Is that an SC6176SP or SC6152SP? I have an SC6152S...
Hmm, home depot..

It's a Sc6262sp with the billet compressor wheel.It's a really nice piece.

[AccordEpicenter]

Hmm, home depot..

It's a Sc6262sp with the billet compressor wheel.It's a really nice piece.

Thats a serious snail, Jerry. For my oil pan fitting, i drilled a hole, got a small galvanized steel adapter that both sides are threaded, but one size fits those cheap brass barbed fittings, and grinded all the galvanizing off, and welded it to the oil pan on the outside covering the hole I drilled. The steel fitting is not very big, maybe an inch or so long. I cleaned up the welds and rattle canned it. Strong, cheap, and no leaks.

[89T]

Thats a serious snail, Jerry. For my oil pan fitting, i drilled a hole, got a small galvanized steel adapter that both sides are threaded, but one size fits those cheap brass barbed fittings, and grinded all the galvanizing off, and welded it to the oil pan on the outside covering the hole I drilled. The steel fitting is not very big, maybe an inch or so long. I cleaned up the welds and rattle canned it. Strong, cheap, and no leaks.
Sounds good, I ordered a 10an weld bung and a 10an oil return kit.
The original fitting that i had was slightly back feeding. It was not that bad but with this new turbo I am not taking any chances.

The new bung will be welded to a short piece of pipe which i cut at a decent angle to over come the backward angle of the oil pan.

[Tdurr]

where the hell are you tim?

Was i supposed to buy the plane ticket?:dunno:

lol i said let me know once u got EVERYTHING. pm me man!

[89T]

she's getting real close.

Pulled the pan and welded the new bung in, rebuilt the down pipe to fit the new turbo. Copied Tim on the vibrant muffler.

Its not all here Tim, I am waiting on one little gasket.

[Rendon LX-i]

JESUS....sounds like the same specs as mine. T6370. BUt that snail look a whole lot nicer LOL........NICE BRO.

[89T]

yeah, man The turbo has 70ar compressor 63ar exhaust housing.

[AccordEpicenter]

We really need to have a dyno shootout competition or somthing haha. I know we are all a long way away geography wise, but videos and dyno graphs should suffice...

[89T]

Hmm, how could we set that up! I guess when is the question.

[AccordEpicenter]

id like to do an actual meet or somthing but im not sure if wed all be able to do somthing like that. Even if we just had a contest going that would be a start

[89T]

id like to do an actual meet or somthing but im not sure if wed all be able to do somthing like that. Even if we just had a contest going that would be a start

who'd be the players? just you and me or all turbo'ed 3rd gens.

For a meet of all turbo'ed 3rd gens, Kansas would be the center of the U.S. Id be down but not till 2011.

[MessyHonda]

a turbo meet...maybe i should turbo too

[89T]

mine should be running/driving in the next week or 2, tuned following that.

[89T]

a turbo meet...maybe i should turbo too
we can work somthing out.

[Rendon LX-i]

umm....Sounds like a plan

[AccordEpicenter]

a turbo meet would be great, but it might not work out considering we are like almost 2500 miles apart hahaha

[87roach]

I want to turbo too...

Can't wait to see that huge baby spin.

[89T]

I want to turbo too...

Can't wait to see that huge baby in spin.
what do you need?

[87roach]

I've got just about everything except exhaust.. I just need someone who can weld everything up haha. I'll be doing all the work this time except for the tune, I'm tired of getting charged for shitty work when I can do it better myself for much less.

I got layed off work(seasonal) so I'll be home soon and I can start updating my thread instead of jacking yours!

[89T]

I've got just about everything except exhaust.. I just need someone who can weld everything up haha. I'll be doing all the work this time except for the tune, I'm tired of getting charged for shitty work when I can do it better myself for much less.

I got layed off work(seasonal) so I'll be home soon and I can start updating my thread instead of jacking yours!


sombody's got to bump this lame ass thread.

Buy a welder and learn. that's what i did. I figure if One of my turbo manifolds ever cracked, i must suck.:werd: they never have.



:cheers:
The car is alive!I need to finnish the vaccume lines, catchcan, a few more wires. She idles great at 13.8 AFR.the turbo spins real nice and all.:cheers:

the vibrant muffler is a bit louder than i expected though.

[Tdurr]

who'd be the players? just you and me or all turbo'ed 3rd gens.

For a meet of all turbo'ed 3rd gens, Kansas would be the center of the U.S. Id be down but not till 2011.

hmmm id make that trip.. :cheers:

[Tdurr]

sombody's got to bump this lame ass thread.

Buy a welder and learn. that's what i did. I figure if One of my turbo manifolds ever cracked, i must suck.:werd: they never have.



:cheers:
The car is alive!I need to finnish the vaccume lines, catchcan, a few more wires. She idles great at 13.8 AFR.the turbo spins real nice and all.:cheers:

the vibrant muffler is a bit louder than i expected though.

sweet tits man! I'm bout to see if they jy tranny works... im super nervous

and the vibrant muffler sounds sooooo good. is ur straight pip all the way till the muffler? cuz mine is and i love it. at speed its very manageable.

[89T]

sweet tits man! I'm bout to see if they jy tranny works... im super nervous

and the vibrant muffler sounds sooooo good. is ur straight pip all the way till the muffler? cuz mine is and i love it. at speed its very manageable.
Glad to here you got it together.


yup. it's 3" from the turbo back. I cant wait to hear it.

[Tdurr]

dude.. ull jizz urself. it sound SOOO fucking mean. u ever see my lil hwy video?

[89T]

Link it.

[Tdurr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swlwH76tQfo

http://vimeo.com/10706572

http://vimeo.com/10528592

[89T]

sounds, good.

she is done, but trying to figure out all the little tricks on the management.

[89T]

crickets....

[Tdurr]

son. ur getting a pm..

[89T]

son, igot it. lol.

[87roach]

bump

[Tdurr]

yea.. i should call u and get u motivated lol

[gfrg88]

gotta get it ready for 5280FEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[89T]

damn! i forgot about this thread...LOL! not really, but I have been really busy lately.

I need to finnish up some parts then i can get it on the dyno. I still need to paint it as well.

[Tdurr]

u need bewst runs before paint. lol

[87roach]

go before show man.

[gfrg88]

show before go :D

[89T]

just for you Gio
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7381/sneakpeak003.th.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/sneakpeak003.jpg/) thumbnail


full size

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7381/sneakpeak003.jpg

[Nio]

That is sick looking.

Want more :D

[Tdurr]

lol i had that pic on my phone for the longest..

[88lxi-shortram]

i love it!!! i cant wait til i dont need emmisions so i can boost... plus a 5 swap

[89T]

lol i had that pic on my phone for the longest..
you'r apreciated.

[Tdurr]

i love it!!! i cant wait til i dont need emmisions so i can boost... plus a 5 swap
my car still passes emssions


you'r apreciated.

and no, your appreciated.
just as soon as your driving it erryday

[bullard123]

Yeah Jerry give me a holla when its running..and we can go have a photoshoot

[89T]

I took her out for a stroll just today....
she needs tuning, so until then...

pics after new paint will be cool.

[Rendon LX-i]

SOB jerry. No more Holset. DAMN LOL. looking good. Vids asap

[87roach]

How was the ride? Going to tune yourself?

Still going with all black?

[89T]

For not being 100% dyno tuned, she definatly get's down.



















All the way to 8500 rpm.

No holset, but I still have it and it's for sale.

I tuned it as far as I am comfertable with. she will get black BC/CC.

[89T]

Now in, 89turbo'ed going green! Yes! you herd it right here.... The first E85 turbo accord!

street vids coming soon to a youtube near you!

Could you blame him? @$2.99 a gal. for race fuel. I think not!

[MessyHonda]

dont you use more fuel when you go e85?

[89T]

They say you need 30-32% more fuel in the tune. so far I have only added 5% to the tune and it hovers around stoich.
Messy you can compare it to pump gas, but when you realize the E85 = 110 octane then you should be comparing it to race fuel at $7-$8 a gallon.

I think we all know that I am not doing this for fuel mileage.

[gfrg88]

In for more info on E85 conversion.. Been running through my mind from the first day I started buying my turbo parts..

[87roach]

Very cool, I was waiting for a bump on this thread.

More info!

[MessyHonda]

yeah my friend that tuned my car has a lexus is 300t with 400whp and he said that he was in the process of converting to E85. said that with a good tune he would be able to make 100-140 more hp. Jerry you are right about race fuel i can get 100 oct localy but it cost alot more than e85

[gfrg88]

So when can I expect to see your car at Bandimere???? :D

[Tdurr]

Switching to e85 isn't hard. Just gotta replace some fuel lines, get bigger injectors andddd tune it lol.
And I'm guessing u have a e85 pump close to ur house?

[89T]

So when can I expect to see your car at Bandimere???? :DI dont know man. we will see.


Switching to e85 isn't hard. Just gotta replace some fuel lines, get bigger injectors andddd tune it lol.
And I'm guessing u have a e85 pump close to ur house?

From what i read, aluminum lines and papper filters are a no no...

So to add to tims post, a high flow fuel pump (or 2) minimum 800-1000cc injectors.

yup, we have pumps all over the place.

[Rendon LX-i]

Great to know jerry. keep up the good work. Ill have to do a update

[gfrg88]

So you're still running the stock fuel lines??? That's where I'm stuck at.. I keep reading different things.. I was honestly planning on just throwing on a fuel cell and running all new lines..

[Tdurr]

I dont know man. we will see.



From what i read, aluminum lines and papper filters are a no no...

So to add to tims post, a high flow fuel pump (or 2) minimum 800-1000cc injectors.

yup, we have pumps all over the place.


I'll ask my friend who runs e85 if he is on his stock lines. I heard the stock lines will gum up or something.

[89T]

So you're still running the stock fuel lines??? That's where I'm stuck at.. I keep reading different things.. I was honestly planning on just throwing on a fuel cell and running all new lines..
I have friends whom have been running E85 for years, on stock lines. 4-600hp cars.
90% of what you read is myth.


I'll ask my friend who runs e85 if he is on his stock lines. I heard the stock lines will gum up or something.

Not steel lines. I'll have to find the thread. later.. or... go to honda-tech search e85 by user name kelly.

Gio him and Servion are local to us. IF you need anything tuned hit up Adam @ Revolutions proformance 719-635-6200 Servion is the resident tuner.

[89T]

My first edited video ever! lol!
I'll get it, I need more footage. enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6r1linm8QM

[87roach]

Kick ass man.

I liked it but it would of been nice to hear the motor a bit more heh.

[89T]

thanks!
More natural sounds... Check
I'll try to stay off the rev limiter next time..
I need way more footage to choose clips from for sure.

[Rendon LX-i]

Damn Jerry that's a fucking beast.

[MessyHonda]

haha...looks like your having fun with it. im surprised you have traction

[89T]

Damn Jerry that's a fucking beast.
thanks man..


haha...looks like your having fun with it. im surprised you have traction

I finaly got a video, so I thought I would do something different with it. It turned out ok..
rolling starts are not so much of a problem with the lsd. On the part that I was at a stop, it burned the tires. I rolled out of the throttle alittle bit then back in.

[89T]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50D2fmYvk94

without music....

[87roach]

That one look's like you had more fun with the editing hehe.

Had a smile on my face the whole time! Great to see that after your hard work she's a monster :D

[MessyHonda]

yeah good work on the boosted A

[89T]

oops. The first minute was not supposed to be in there... I am learning. She is running pretty good on the base map with minimal tweaking. I cant wait till we tune it.
thanks the hard work is finally paying off.

[89T]

Oh,i could never find a good use for that pic near the end so I just threw it in there..

[89T]

vid's are up!

[Tdurr]

Needs moat 2nd to 4th pulls :)

[89T]

will do after we tune it.....

[gfrg88]

Needs to come out to Bandimere on wednesday nights :)

Fixed :thumbup:

[89T]

By the time I got home and showered, left for Morrison from fountain, I wouldn't be there till 8:30 or 9:00..race till? then 2hours back home then get up for 10hrs of work at 4 am.... I'd have to do a weekend deal up there maN. what's it like at the csp events? do you have any film?

[Tdurr]

will do after we tune it.....

Well u kno wut u need to do then!

[89T]

Thought you wanted to be like 2 short...

bump! bithches, shits going down-doin work!

[89T]

^^^lol^^^

So, I have been doing some work to the accord. There have been updates that were slowly getting done. The paint got pretty beat up, but thats ok. It will be redone as well.
new shoes....
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/4442/wheels002r.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/wheels002r.jpg/)


http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1341/wheels003c.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/wheels003c.jpg/)


http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/1787/wheels005.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/wheels005.jpg/)


http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5782/wheels004.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/wheels004.jpg/)


http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4645/wheels001r.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/wheels001r.jpg/)

[MessyHonda]

now you have traction

[Rendon LX-i]

Now thats beast

[87roach]

Killer.

Not as much of a sleeper now hehe :D

[89T]

I am finishing up on a staging break also. I am having trouble with flaring the Honda lines with out splitting them.

[gfrg88]

:drool:

[89T]

I hope I didn't get them for nothing.;)

[gfrg88]

You gotta let me know when you're out with your car!! I wanna see that thing!! You should come out with me and Ryan on a Sunday. Would kill to see that thing!!

[Tdurr]

Vids sir.

[gfrg88]

:rice:

[89T]

nice bump Gio.
Still waiting on paint.

[89T]

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/6402/phonepics283.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/phonepics283.jpg/)

To satisfy you're thirst

[obdriver6]

Well I'm satisfied.

[Rendon LX-i]

Weak sauce!!!

[89T]

;)

still going to play catch up.LOL!

[89T]

Ladys and gentelmen, The time is finally here! The accord is headed across the way for paint. I changed my mind on the color. She is going to get a nice coat of gun metal.

[Rendon LX-i]

Catch up? Quit it. Get that thing painted already

[89T]

lol, then off to the tuner............

[87roach]

Very much looking forward to the turn out of both :D

[89T]

She went over yesterday evening, and doors should be coming off today.

[gfrg88]

I'll be setting up my yearly End of the Year meet here soon. Please. Cone out so we can all drool over it :D

[89T]

where are you thinking of meeting up?

[gfrg88]

I've done at the same place the past two years. Near downtown Denver.

[hondalude86]

uh oh, whats the dealy with this little guy?

[89T]

time.... lol! I bet I did not drive it anything over a hundred miles in the last year. She will get done soon.

the entire front is off, doors are off the body is being rub'ed lol..

[hondalude86]

just watched the vids from page 16... thing seems pretty beast. It'll be nice to see what the ole' twin scroll can do with an awesome tune! +1 for some 3rd/4th gear pulls!

[scanlessfool]

Great work and amazing progress!