The Journey 89 turbo'ed-----89T

[89T]

Shh! Don't let the secret out!

[Tdurr]

make me one too

[89T]

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One step closer.

[87roach]

That will definitely do the job man!

So how are your lines going to work?

The the two from the exhaust will be pulling the gases, and you have two running from the valve cover? What did you do with the stock black box hole?

[obd0driver]

Looks great man

[89T]

Thanks. I got rid of all the black box crap when I installed th intake manifold. The only thing you need is the map sensor.
I am running two -12 and two -10 lines from the valve cover and one -10 to the back of the block. I am going to plug the exhaust port I don't think I'll need it with 5 lines going to the catch can.

[Tdurr]

ricer.







*runs*

[89T]

Ricer with 2 turbo cars. Lol
I love boost!

[Tdurr]

2?? o.O

[89T]

2006 Scoobaroo wrx-tr

[Tdurr]

boo. Ill have 2 turbo cars *hopefully* by the end of the year. I need a 1jz in my life....

[obd0driver]

boo. Ill have 2 turbo cars *hopefully* by the end of the year. I need a 1jz in my life....
I would love a 85 Celica gts with 1jz dream car right there.

I plan on have to types of boost by the end of the year lol ahahahah
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/04/ac49899078b8e660708de4bb0bfe70dc.jpg

[89T]

Lol

[87roach]

All those fittings and lines are going to add up to some $$ for sure, I am curious to see how you route everything too.

What is that fitting going into the firewall? Or is it a mount?

[89T]

It's the old ac lines. Yeh $$$... lol! I've got everything welded up. The welds aren't as nice as I would have liked, but it will do the job. Next up is stripping the paint off the vc and painting it. Then build the lines.

[89T]

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[89T]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/06/72e975fda98f0f279d08312750da6d1f.jpg
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Hammer time!

[Tdurr]

Make me one. Also any pics of the inside bungs?? Any baffling or just straight lines to the box.

[87roach]

Those lines look ace man, I'm liking the black hosing.

Liken Tim asked, did you stuff anything into the box? Is there a drain at all on the box?

I don't see how that dipstick could be pushed out now! I am curious to hear the results of this serious box.

[89T]

So, there is a -10 fitting on the right lower side of the box. You can see it in the pictures. That line is for the drain back. I pulled the factory catch can and realized that there was a drain back for it . Well I did not plan for that. It's been awhile since I pulled the black box out. I refitted the box to accept a -10an fitting. There is a baffle in the new box. The top 2 -10an fittings are at an angle because of it.

I ran into another problem with one of the plug wires. When I plug it in the spark plug won't fire, but if I back it out loose it will fire.

[89T]

Direct replacement for the AEM wideband o2 sensor. Part# 17018 $63 at OReilly auto parts

[87roach]

Was it a faulty spark plug or the wire even?

I am curious about your pcv system because of the vented top. There will have to be quite a bit of vacuum for the gases to be pulled into the exhaust because you'll mainly be sucking in fresh air, because they are before the other lines.

What do you think?

[obd0driver]

So it's a 4.2 bosh sensor? Ive been told that there is a limited supply of those left because they have moved up to 4.9 now and plx bought most if not all that was left.

[89T]

No. It's a 4.0 the 4.2 is $124 I did not even look for the 4.9

[obd0driver]

Dam 4.0 the inventive ones are 84 for the 4.9

[guaynabo89]

No. It's a 4.0 the 4.2 is $124 I did not even look for the 4.9


I'm out of the loop a bit, what exactly is the difference?

Like the vent system you got there to. Did you remove the stock black catch can and add a plug?

[89T]

The 4.2 part# 17205
This is mostly meant for those who don't want to wait for the mail man.
Here is a link on the difference between the 4.2 and 4.9 sensors.
Bosch LSU 4.9 is superior to LSU 4.2 sensors - ECOTRONS (http://www.ecotrons.com/technology/bosch_lsu_49_is_superior_to_lsu_42_sensors/)

After doing some fourm searching, it seems like the 4.2 and 4.9 sensors are not lasting over 6 months on most high power builds. That's why I got the economy version. Lol. It swings just fine for me.

I left the box in and tapped the top hole for a -10 an fitting. I have to order a weld in -12 AN steel fitting for the oil pan drain back. I totally forgot about that. I also need to order the d - series block kit that Tim got, to tie into the block. It seems like the single -10 an is not cutting it. I may plug it and add 2 -12 fittings to the side/bottom for those connections.

[89T]

Dam 4.0 the inventive ones are 84 for the 4.9
Innovative? I'll keep that in mind.

[89T]

Was it a faulty spark plug or the wire even?

I am curious about your pcv system because of the vented top. There will have to be quite a bit of vacuum for the gases to be pulled into the exhaust because you'll mainly be sucking in fresh air, because they are before the other lines.

What do you think?
It was a bad wire.
Sorry for not responding.
I went to a vent to atmosphere setup. I plugged up that check valve pipe.

[obd0driver]

Innovate Motor Sports On-Line Store (http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/xcart/home.php?cat=250)

[89T]

Innovate Motor Sports On-Line Store (http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/xcart/home.php?cat=250)
That's what I thought.

Problem is that it's not a plug and play with the AEM Wideband controller.
You can get the same sensor for $53 at AZ. I forgot the part# though

[Tdurr]

The 4.2 part# 17205
This is mostly meant for those who don't want to wait for the mail man.
Here is a link on the difference between the 4.2 and 4.9 sensors.
Bosch LSU 4.9 is superior to LSU 4.2 sensors - ECOTRONS (http://www.ecotrons.com/technology/bosch_lsu_49_is_superior_to_lsu_42_sensors/)

After doing some fourm searching, it seems like the 4.2 and 4.9 sensors are not lasting over 6 months on most high power builds. That's why I got the economy version. Lol. It swings just fine for me.

I left the box in and tapped the top hole for a -10 an fitting. I have to order a weld in -12 AN steel fitting for the oil pan drain back. I totally forgot about that. I also need to order the d - series block kit that Tim got, to tie into the block. It seems like the single -10 an is not cutting it. I may plug it and add 2 -12 fittings to the side/bottom for those connections.

Just a fyi on that d-series plug your gonna have to cut the first oring groove off then get a new oring for it to work. I forgot to take pics when i did this on mine but its pretty simple.

[89T]

You the man Tim!

[89T]

I am pulling the motor. Re-ring it or find out wtf.

[obd0driver]

Dam that sucks

[Tdurr]

I am pulling out.

Bro wrong forum?...

[89T]

Lol. Craziness!
You have been ingesting too much tranny fluid.

[87roach]

How come man??

[Tdurr]

I have :( but hes ripping the motor out because blowby is too much if im not mistaken

[obd0driver]

I have :( but hes ripping the motor out because blowby is too much if im not mistaken
Correct about the blowby but I was thinking it was because he needed better venting if the block. Will see soon

[89T]

Well there's a laundry list of s*** wrong with it. Looks like the crank walked. Chewed up the bearing and the number 3 main cap. It was about to spin a rod bearing at the same location. piston number 2 the lower oil ring just hanging off of there. Hopefully the cam is alright. Question is do i do another a20or just dropped my b18 in there. It would be a lot cheaper if I just do another a 20. with the B18 and I would have to get a new intake, turbo manifold, downpipe, flywheel, clutch, pressure plate, cams, axels, mounts the whole nine yards.

[89T]

699069916992

[obd0driver]

Question is do i do another a20or just dropped my b18 in there. It would be a lot cheaper if I just do another a 20. with the B18 and I would have to get a new intake, turbo manifold, downpipe, flywheel, clutch, pressure plate, cams, axels, mounts the whole nine yards.

it's simple if you ask me. Get a new A20. It's cheaper and you're making more power.

[89T]

Yeah I have a spare a20. It will probably go to the machine shop next week.
What would cause it to walk though.

[obd0driver]

I would send that crank too and have it balanced.

[89T]

Yup. Along with flywheel and pully

[obd0driver]

this would be a good time to take it all the way and have it knife edged. just saying tho.

[89T]

We will see. That's like an extra $400

[89T]

Everything is good to go. Just got to try and get off work early and drop this junk off.

[87roach]

Dang man, hopefully you can figure out what happened so you can avoid it again. Glad to see that you're not messing around and dealing with it quickly!!

[89T]

Yeh I am trying to get down there and drop it off. We got a huge push at work so I have been putting in 13hr days so far this week.

[87roach]

Ah yea.. such is the way. It's usually a hassle trying to get something done during the day with work always taking up all your time.

[89T]

Dropped it off today. Hoping for the best.

[89T]

So after careful inspection of the crank. I realized there were marks on the flywheel. I am pretty sure it was the clutch. So when I installed the new clutch, pressure plate, and fly wheel the clutch would not disengage. So I had to over adjust it to disengage. I took it right to the line of engagement. There was constant pressure on the crank causing the wear of the bearings. I was told it was normal until the clutch was broken in. So where I am at now is figuring out a way to get more movement from the pedal to the trans. I did a auto to manual swap. The pedal always felt weird. Like there was not enough movement.
Ideas?

[87roach]

Hmm that's curious..

I am wondering what is causing it to be constantly engaged? There has to be pressure applied to the lever to engage it so are you getting full movement on that? Are you using a stock clutch cable or the integra one? As far as I recall it's a pretty straight forward system so something doesn't sound quite right. How long as the clutch been installed? Did you ever use a stock type clutch after your 5 speed swap? Or did you go straight to a higher rated clutch right away? I am just curious to know if you noticed any difference or if it's just different since you installed the new clutch.

[89T]

Hmm that's curious..

I am wondering what is causing it to be constantly engaged? There has to be pressure applied to the lever to engage it so are you getting full movement on that? Are you using a stock clutch cable or the integra one? As far as I recall it's a pretty straight forward system so something doesn't sound quite right. How long as the clutch been installed? Did you ever use a stock type clutch after your 5 speed swap? Or did you go straight to a higher rated clutch right away? I am just curious to know if you noticed any difference or if it's just different since you installed the new clutch.
Over adjustment in order for it to fully disenguage. I have the light weight flywheel, clutchnet red pressure plate and 6 puck clutch. I don't remember if I installed a pedal assembly out of a coupe or hatch. I do know that it doesn't feel fluid. Like a factory 5 speed car would. I am also using the stock cable. I spoke to Tim and Josh and we all feel that something is not right with the pedal assembly. It's like there is not enough mechanical movement. We have ruled out cable stretch. If it were to stretch it would remain at a longer lenth still enabling you to adjust that out as long as you still have adjustment. A steel cable would just get longer, and not act like a rubber band and contract. It seems like there's 3/8" to 1/2" of adjustment on the cable from 1/8" of free play in order for it to disengage.

[87roach]

With that being said.. I guess it's time you take a closer look at the pedal assembly and see what's up? That is a nightmare of a job so maybe you can see if everything is working without pulling it out of the car.. although I guess you'd have to if you have to swap it out for another one. I also really don't see a logical reason why the coupe or hatch versions would be different but it's possible.

Let use know what you find on inspection!

[89T]

With that being said.. I guess it's time you take a closer look at the pedal assembly and see what's up? That is a nightmare of a job so maybe you can see if everything is working without pulling it out of the car.. although I guess you'd have to if you have to swap it out for another one. I also really don't see a logical reason why the coupe or hatch versions would be different but it's possible.

Let use know what you find on inspection!
It might be my sedan thats different.?? I wonder how hard it would be to convert it to hydrolic.

Nothing from the machine shop yet. And I will be the one to assemble it. So if it screws up its my fault.

[87roach]

Oh right, I forgot you were a sedan, hmmm. I still don't know why, I think you'd have to have them side by side to tell, maybe someone on here has experience with that? Maybe the boys down in NZ swapping trannys out daily have some input.

What work have you specified to be done at the machine shop? Was there more damage than you first though?

[89T]

I went with fresh crank and block.

[obd0driver]

Why didn't you just ask. You can look to see what people have done DIY style for ef civic's or here's some links the would work. As I've been looking deeper in to the A2B Trans plate I thought this would be something nice to upgraded

Hush Performance — CABLE TO HYDRO CONVERSION EF and DA (http://hushperformance.bigcartel.com/product/v2-5-1-ef-pro-street-cable-to-hydro-conversion)


Innovative D/B/H/K-series Cable to Hydro Trans Conversion - JDM Honda Parts USA (http://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=30656&idcategory=1778)

[89T]

I'll keep that in mind. The prices are good too.

[89T]

That's how to get more room in a 3g.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/29/216fc8b3f71503139cc61b3532ac46f9.jpg

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Now I am assuming you know why that piece of three eighths inch plate is sandwiched between the bushings. I am having a hard time believing that it's single heim joint on the lower control arm will be of any use. I really do not think that Honda got it wrong.

[87roach]

Whoa man, are you going to get the same bar as Tim?

That pipe looks like it's 6" from here haha, holy!

What's the word from the machine shop?

[obd0driver]

Messy is working with innovative to have them make him one

[89T]

So far the head needs exhaust valve guides. Intake guides look dam near new. Nothing more, there having trouble getting the rings. There is no build stamp on the pistons. The ram air pipe is 4 inch. I am moving everything forward so I'll make my own. So, if you look at the stock bar, it appears that it is very similar to a torsion bar. If you are familiar with it. The bar is bendable. Perhaps a solid bar would offer an upgrade but the thing that has my interest is the solid 2 point mount on the lower control arm. Which means that it would limit the twist of the lower control arm. I don't see that happening with a single point "swivel " heim joint. Thoughts?

[89T]

Please note that if you move the mounting point forward, you will also have to move it outward in order to retain the correct suspension geometry.

[obd0driver]

Tow hook.

[89T]

Cross bar

[Tdurr]

i see you man! keep up the progress. I wanna see this bad boy on the road again.

[87roach]

i see you man! keep up the progress. I wanna see this bad boy on the road again.

x2 man

Sorry I don't have any input on the bar, my experience with that stuff is pretty minimal. It does sound like you've got it figured out though so I am curious to see what you come up with!

[89T]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/04/216fb1f345bc7a0c42f8cd0d8c2d9e89.jpg
I'll leave this here.

[89T]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/05/80cff9b097cd5e3cd77553d428ff63f7.jpg

[89T]

Now you order heim joints and tabs.http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/05/24016bbd2bf056c7fca3fbe378299f6f.jpg

[obd0driver]

Nice. I guess it would be a little late to tell you the I dropped off a cross member to innovative on Friday so they can make us a tbar lol. Messy had been doing the leg work in it just happened to be going near there shop this weekend

[89T]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/05/51e6245a862d791e76784dd93eb45959.jpg
Here's an idea how much more room I made. My guess would be they will catch it where the toe hook goes keeping the elevation of the motor mount. I mean that is the way I would mass produce it. The way I have it gained me a good 4 inches more room. I also removed the other cross section where the hood latch and rdiator mounted to. I am toying with the idea of shaving the front mount all together. Also on the traction bar I have a solid rear mount and a heim front. They will use a double heim rod. Of course you supplied a cross member so who knows. I can't wait to see the end product.[emoji3]

[89T]

I am also looking at converting my old jrsc intercooler in to a double pass radiator.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/05/8c1dcc9365c9fc539269295778fc47b3.jpg

[obd0driver]

Sick. Im sure theirs will be close to what you have going based on the fact thats all that wanted was a cross member. And i love how everything sits in your bay. I plan on going the same route. The only thing missing in a tanked radiator.

[Tdurr]

love it. i need to work on my car....

[MessyHonda]

this is what is needed for our cars. My front crossmember broke in half. Richard had a Spare crossmember and he was in town the first week of July. I been talking to Innovative mounts to make us a traction bar. they already make one for the 88-91 prelude and the company(explictperformance) that made them for us went out of business. i think Tim was the last one to buy a traction bar from them. i tried emailing them but no response. Im talking to Kevin at Innovative. i gave him a 8 week deadline or i told him i was just going to get one custom made. My car needs more Jerry Parts. i still have the short shifter that you made me back in 2006

[87roach]

How could your cross-member possibly break in half Messy?

Looking good Jerry, any updates?

[Tdurr]

^^ he had to cut it for clearance in his swap. bottomed out and cracked it in half.

we need more updates

[obd0driver]

^^^^ what he said

[87roach]

Ahh gotcha, dang.

I guess it might seem obvious but when cutting away something like that it's a good idea to make up the strength some how, or else!

Updatessssss!

[obd0driver]

Ahh gotcha, dang.

I guess it might seem obvious but when cutting away something like that it's a good idea to make up the strength some how, or else!

Updatessssss!
So not to post jack. A u shape was cut then I was box back in and welded. However the header is hitting the cross member under load at hard launches and stuff. So he can either get a different header to see if is fits better of get a track bar that will be out of the way.

[89T]

I am working on the radiator right now.

[obd0driver]

Photo's when you're done please.

[89T]

Always

[Tdurr]

i need a shop like u have in ur garage

[89T]

I need more room. Lol!

[Rendon LX-i]

A asshole make me a bar lol. Good work bro

[89T]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/02/38e6e5d66ecedb18e5ca6554b7a5d026.jpg
Pic of the restriction plate and seperator.

[Tdurr]

^^^^ this is ur ic to radiator huh?

[89T]

Yes sir

[Innsjioa]

I need to get a hand-full of other part's before i go standalone.







iphone 6s schutzhülle (http://www.hulle6.com/category-apple-iphone-6s-zubehoer-254.html)

[89T]

Aww snap! Look what blessed my door step today. .

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/31/60a5742de5a11ec254717f8fcec20267.jpg

[89T]

Dry fit. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/31/acd3048d5f43e421fec539e206f1e4f1.jpg

[guaynabo89]

Nice!

Now make me one of those. ;)

[89T]

Once it's done, I see if I can make a jig. Finding a box to ship it in is the hard part. Lol

[87roach]

So nice!

[89T]

Thanks

[89T]

Did some stuff today
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[89T]

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[Tdurr]

hell yea! get it done!

[89T]

You bet.
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I'll leave these here.[emoji48]
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[Tdurr]

Mad scientists over here!

[89T]

Mad as hell, like Jekyll and Hyde

[89T]

Here you go tim... making a jig for a solid rear mount...[emoji48] http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/11/796925d129d66e442120fbadba3c0c73.jpg

[87roach]

Ohhh yea. I am not sure what is going on with the trans-axle but the progress is looking good man!

[89T]

I am removing the front mount all together. The plate will become the new side mount. There was nothing on the transmission that was strong enough to mount to. So this is the best alternative.

[Tdurr]

Ohh a jig... i see you!

[87roach]

No more messing around I see!

So what are you going to do with all that glorious space now?

[89T]

For now the plan is to clean it up.

[89T]

Solid rear mount.[emoji48]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/17/cd430ca37f7c43fb2a36e0d2ea74788d.jpg

[87roach]

Looking good!

I can't recall if you got your motor back from the shop all sorted out yet or not? Is the motor your test fitting to an extra block or the original one you were getting repaired?

[89T]

That's the old block. I got a "new to me" block and had it machined. I got it back last Wednesday. I just want to sort out the mounts and such before I put it together.

[89T]

Okay so. Bandsaw blade broke again. So I stopped working on on the motor mounts. I decided to see what was wrong with the clutch seeing that I have the old motor and transmission mocked up.http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/18/dc2f4a20e582c4103f8db3c303dcc4f9.jpg
So from 0 with the clutch fully depressed I've only got 1 5/16 inches of travel. Now from where I had the clutch adjusted to originally at full disengagement is an additional inch and a half past that 1 5/16 inch. Meaning that I need 2 13/16 of travel. So what I'm getting at is WTF. Will Somebody go out and measure those for me.? The Only real solution that i can seeI at this point is relocating where the clutch cable connects to the armature to about halfway down the armature.

[89T]

This is about how much more pedal movement I need.http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/18/503442112c4e71d1b1dc019ab9721c3d.jpg

[87roach]

I'd have to check mine to see if its similar at all.

I do notice though that compared to stock, the integra cable has less travel in it all together, I pretty much have it at max adjustment and there is enough pedal to shift normally but maybe 1/4 less than stock(pedal movement). Anyway, what I am getting at is that stock will probably be a better option to go if you need the most pedal travel you can get(I can't remember which you have, sorry).

[89T]

I have the clutchnet red clutch and pressure plate with the aluminum flywheel
I also have the stock clutch cable

[Tdurr]

your cable might be going bad, replace that fucker. they are like 20-30 for a brand new one from autozone.

[89T]

13 bucks. I'll pick one up!

[Tdurr]

even better. when mine came uncrimped and almost left me stranded a mile from my house -_-

[87roach]

Man that's affordable, I don't think I could get a price like that around here! Mind you, I don't think I could have piece of mind with a $13 cable doing an essential part of driving.

I hope that solves the problem though.

[89T]

13 bucks and it was the only one in town. I'll take it! I hope that's it though.

[89T]

So, I replaced the clutch cable and it made little to no difference. I used an old trick to gain more travel. I cut and trimmed the clutch pedal and slid it forward
about a half inch. Ant this is what I gained. The picture is with my phone resting on the Break pedal. Stock height and then modified height.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/26/7885c5ad8d4e3412007a3bdcf96c96ce.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/26/fc8316fa3b5cff06117c905855e9a427.jpg
Here's the adapter. I bolted it together just in case I needed more travel.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/26/d031076ffb789f72d1dccee9e7278349.jpg

[89T]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/26/6243e4f13524458b731497fd228c8d05.jpg

[87roach]

That's unfortunate about the new cable not being the quick fix.. dang.

So with the pedal modification do you now have the proper amount of movement? I suppose it's sort of hard to tell when you can't quite test it on a running engine. Nice handy work though!

[89T]

There is more movement for sure. Enough is to be determined.

[Tdurr]

dang, that sucks. I hoped the cable was the problem...

[89T]

I'll figure it out. I can get more with a different pedal adapter.

[Oldblueaccord]

I have the clutchnet red clutch and pressure plate with the aluminum flywheel
I also have the stock clutch cable


Clutchnet is your problem right there. My green is the same way the cable is all the way out just hanging on the last two threads.

Only thing to fix it right beside getting a real clutch that fits is maybe cut the flywheel down enough.

I looked and the preludes cables are longer according to Rockauto but I have no idea if they hook up the same.

I like your motor plate idea!

[obd0driver]

This is one part of the reasons ive been looking for someone to make A2B plate so the we can go hydo and there are better options for clutches, flywheels, lsd, axles and dog boxes. Its been done twice before so its possible.

[89T]

Clutchnet is your problem right there. My green is the same way the cable is all the way out just hanging on the last two threads.

Only thing to fix it right beside getting a real clutch that fits is maybe cut the flywheel down enough.

I looked and the preludes cables are longer according to Rockauto but I have no idea if they hook up the same.

I like your motor plate idea!
So we are saying that the pressure plate is the problem Or the flywheel? I have a stock set so I'll measure them up. Do you have the stock flywheel?

Thanks on the motor plate comment. The hard part is keeping it simple so it can easily be duplicated.

[obd0driver]

I've gonna ahead and tired to contact the two members that have them to see if i can buy the schematic from one of them but never heard back from them. Here's a photo of what it looks like. I would assume that it's not much different then a H2B plate. The other cool thing i read one the build it that the fitment in the engine bay is like it was ment to be there and since the A20 trans doesn't have a trans mount you do have to run one if you dont want to. 7189

[89T]

I already talked to JohnnyO. He no longer has it. I am trying to get ahold of jason.

Now on a side note.
The 2 flywheels are the same.
The pressure plate mounted with no clutch shows 3/32 of an inch of difference on the throw out bearing contacts. Now with the same clutch installed and mounted. There is 6/32 of difference that is just over an 1/8 of a inch.

[obd0driver]

Sweet keep me post on the plate. I'm willing to toss money your way to get it done. I also have a a20 block and B series trans ready to take to someone to have the r&d done.

[89T]

I am comparing flywheels right now.

[89T]

I can't find anything on jason
After research, it looks like Victor already had/has the ball rolling.

[MessyHonda]

my clutchnet red pressure plate I had no more adjustment on my cable. its just the way things are. I had a transmission shop guy tell me that its because i used a aluminum flywheel and because it was lighten it was shorter than a stock flywheel and thats why my 3rd gear would grind. I laughed and told him he didnt rebuild my transmission right. trans failed after 20k and a rebuild. I just installed the trans that came in my coupe that had all integra gears but by then i went back to a ACT clutch with street disk. It had OEM pedal feel and i used the same cable and had plenty of adjustment. When i took out my pressure plate it looked like my Throw out bearing never disengaged and the fingers were worn down. I emailed clutchnet about it and they said they could replace the fingers for 125. I saved it but now it just on my junk pile

[89T]

The fly wheel was the first thing that I checked. It seems to be a match to the stock counterpart. I agree that the pressure plate is the problem.

[Tdurr]

glad i didnt go with clutchnet...

[89T]

I don't think the clutch is the problem. It's the pressure plate.

[Oldblueaccord]

Sweet keep me post on the plate. I'm willing to toss money your way to get it done. I also have a a20 block and B series trans ready to take to someone to have the r&d done.

If you have all the parts already make one out of plywood and them take it to some one to machine it out. That will get you started.

[obd0driver]

Yeah I'm horrible with that kind of stuff but ill see what i can do

[obd0driver]

Ask a buddy he's gonna trace them out for me them out for me. I'll have to pull my trans for this but it's not on the street.

[89T]

I have both

[obd0driver]

Lol well.

[89T]

Time.

[MessyHonda]

any update on the traction bar? innovative is taking their sweet time.

[obd0driver]

any update on the traction bar? innovative is taking their sweet time.
Innovative isn't taking their sweet time. Everyone that has a car in the area is taking there sweet time. You can't test fit or measure with out the key component the car lol ahahahah. But isn't someone going there this week?

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[MessyHonda]

Ace went in on Wednesday. The only member close with a b swap is Daniel and he is in bakersfield

[89T]

All you need is an A series. The only difference is that front motor mount.

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[Shane86]

Great build can't wait to see what kind of numbers this monster is going to put out

[89T]

If I can ever work on it!

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[Tdurr]

You need to get something done! Lol hope you had a great Christmas

[Rendon LX-i]

slacking jerry. get it done brother lol

[MessyHonda]

well by the time this is done we will have the chedda bar installed.

[Rendon LX-i]

yup mine will be here the 13th

[89T]

Tbo I never said I was going to produce a bunch of bars. Usaully we are slow at work in the winter, but with the mild winter this year we have been slammed. I just did 12- 10 hour days straight. I am totally exhausted anymore.

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[Shane86]

Are you still going for #1

[89T]

Are you still going for #1Always! Theres big shoes to fill.

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[Shane86]

Always! Theres big shoes to fill.

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Lol I know you can do it:bow:

[89T]

Lol I know you can do it[emoji144]I'll leave these here 2..https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170924/53febdb04cc0fa2c09104c5d4ac4d8b6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170924/0c7859d6fcc994e6bfa2873bad6109b1.jpg

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[obd0driver]

Looking good so far

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[Shane86]

I wish I had a stainless welder:sad2:

[89T]

I wish I had a stainless welder:sad2:You can weld stainless with a mig.. Just sayin[emoji1].

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[89T]

You can weld stainless with a mig.. Just sayin[emoji1].

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[Shane86]

Some more pics.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170925/a00624f4339d6e65e6bd30015074f776.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170925/cc7ccef1d1469cac48e10e848cf9b72c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170925/6ac8f3f5e3d1e2c89ff0de6e990975c2.jpg

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Nice I'm doing the Accord dance right now:inout:

[gp02a0083]

I wish I had a stainless welder:sad2:

89T is right, and I have done it with my little pro-mig 135 welder if you go look in my hatchback build for my stainless exhaust. You have to switch up your wire to something like 308L IIRC and the best is to use tri-mix gas. Co2/Ar can be used however it causes a bit of impurities and the weld. Now Tig is the shit for exhaust welding but requires a few other skill-sets and equipment that most wont have access to. In either case fabrication details like back purging the pipes when welding (like what 89T has done here) helps minimize corrosion from the inside out. devil is in the details

I didn't see the pipe sections well earlier on FB, but i realized these have a nice bevel for butt joining

[Shane86]

89T is right, and I have done it with my little pro-mig 135 welder if you go look in my hatchback build for my stainless exhaust. You have to switch up your wire to something like 308L IIRC and the best is to use tri-mix gas. Co2/Ar can be used however it causes a bit of impurities and the weld. Now Tig is the shit for exhaust welding but requires a few other skill-sets and equipment that most wont have access to. In either case fabrication details like back purging the pipes when welding (like what 89T has done here) helps minimize corrosion from the inside out. devil is in the details

I didn't see the pipe sections well earlier on FB, but i realized these have a nice bevel for butt joining

Cool man thanks for the info I'll definitely be looking into it more

[89T]

Cool man thanks for the info I'll definitely be looking into it moreWhat do you guys think.[emoji48] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171001/55f9368ecc73aafa1a91ec7b5abb25ec.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171001/7ce662e05af4e21fe38a0826062db308.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171001/97680f171c16ac346a049de508fd8c52.jpg

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[89T]

What do you guys think.[emoji48] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171001/55f9368ecc73aafa1a91ec7b5abb25ec.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171001/7ce662e05af4e21fe38a0826062db308.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171001/97680f171c16ac346a049de508fd8c52.jpg

Sent from my SM-G935P using TapatalkThe idea behind it was to keep it as compact as possible, yet keeping the runners equal length.

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[obd0driver]

Shit as long as it holds boost and makes power fuck what it looks like

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[Shane86]

shit as long as it holds boost and makes power fuck what it looks like

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[gp02a0083]

Shit as long as it holds boost and makes power fuck what it looks like

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"The Devil is in the Details"
89T is putting some careful thought into HIS design and fabrication rather than slapping some haggered stuff together with little to no thought at all...
Roughly half dozen things can be pointed out in the image that reflects that.

[87roach]

:thumbup:

So much manifold, awesome dude! Happy to see you're still rocking on with the project.

[89T]

[emoji106]

So much manifold, awesome dude! Happy to see you're still rocking on with the project.Deleting the brake booster and adding hydraulic clutch.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180624/535d579586053ae74b2b7a7993be0ffe.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180624/362a01bee86f358f1c7d23ba1196cf28.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180624/44a229085105330a7eb9182a879afbc1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180624/d55da725b588d631e0102899249cff60.jpg

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[Tdurr]

what adaptor did you use for the booster delete?? and what size MC are you using? looks like the stocker. glad your still making progress my friend!

[89T]

what adaptor did you use for the booster delete?? and what size MC are you using? looks like the stocker. glad your still making progress my friend!Stocker with an ef hushperformance adapter. 70 bucks.

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[89T]

A few things lefthttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180713/3db2baacfb825d3c61cdee580d9ca6f8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180713/1927546797737f3e92e091362602a0bf.jpg

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[Ahamayym]

Some very impressive work. I am definitely looking forward to the final product.

[89T]

Little second gear RIP today. Its rich but it will do. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190727/d842c5f2db9703c265a726970eec7286.jpg

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[obd0driver]

Nicely done brothers

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[89T]

Got the ram air done today as well.
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[Dr_Snooz]

Very cool!

[guaynabo89]

Keep it up man. Looking good 👍

[86ccord]

This looks niiiiiiiice :D :D

[89T]

Just an updatehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190905/61e1fabf243e9146d85f673d54ffd035.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190905/3c7ebf023c3b98df5cd1ee05541840e5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190905/4e2c74005ad926217a463ded5ca4b28a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190905/db2bcfb47f29e4bd19ea0ab3d8aeffb0.jpg

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[89T]

New dashhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190905/0e0ec94c01a7adf19140db519247f127.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190905/bf444687afd7d75d01d7b7ce8fd4b9f0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190905/3ce6d83ed3dabcb39786ce83d5193ec5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190905/537438453041c25982cc73429a1b127e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190905/681a1c7aeeadcb593f6bdef9388b408d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190905/59b262b52555e68baa1dd12be1b7d014.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190905/b5bfd2760652ad1a1e116298d5997067.jpg

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[89T]

Testing lightsTapatalk Cloud - Downlaoad File 20190901_185126_001.mp4 (http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5d70f13969217/20190901_185126_001.mp4)

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[bullard123]

Hey Jerry! Good to see you back at it again. She looks good! Did you repaint it??

[89T]

Hey Jerry! Good to see you back at it again. She looks good! Did you repaint it??Yes sir, I got it painted a couple of years ago. Still at it, slowly making progress.

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[Dr_Snooz]

Glad to see it. Go go go!

[89T]

I'm not very happy with the phantom grip lsd. It's a good way to introduce metal shavings to your gear box.
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[Dr_Snooz]

Owee!

[89T]

Mid plate build. The rear mount broke so it was time for something different. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191013/8aa7eb5102d150e45c9b9c303fd08263.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191013/14eb6f933f89a4f0350ef37e2ab9100c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191013/bce105e46e5174663a1e7b467af50d13.jpg

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[Fixedit]

This is awesome! What's the method of attachment for the front of it to the traction bar?

[89T]

This is awesome! What's the method of attachment for the front of it to the traction bar?Yes sir, the front attaches to the traction bar. This is also before trimming the rear mount.

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[bscanlan]

So you are going to make these, right? :rockon:

[Dr_Snooz]

Wow! That's heavy duty! Holy smokes. Nice work!

[89T]

Some pics I've took the last couple of days https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191128/76517d6a088dd784d71fac79b9bee982.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191128/0d3e18f1b62cfc79fcc8513e7532d0ca.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191128/2d60d7a51fcdcaa7fd908acd9b7c6db3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191128/b24f7329fe1e42bde49e7ec5c8671085.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191128/d9f1e7c53e4433e1f5fcd4fbde3bc8a7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191128/c5c52428780ecdd43311ecbbf2c449e4.jpg

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[Dr_Snooz]

Zoinks! The wide body fenders are crazy enough, but fat drag slicks too?? Say whaaat?

[89T]

Working it back together https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200225/495bc70641091dffbcb32a2f82da86e3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200225/293b0a2bb82b0d9e72485ee970c6baeb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200225/4b77aa9141a3e87882a97aa35c3ec188.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200225/ed3e9fd05a635ebbfdfceafd96df41d7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200225/54769bc5ab0b65f50e419a72047f1b61.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200225/e6b38fe9860998964a84ccc5ae338052.jpg

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[Dr_Snooz]

There's a lot of love in that car. Looks great!

[89T]

Thanks

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[89T]

Psca race 3https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200920/2a901a000f127871b9516b239e439a3b.jpg

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[Oldblueaccord]

Under 2 second 60' thats pretty cool. Thanks for sharing that!

[89T]

Psca 2020https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200930/d7a980966e6dbfd1a50ab8fbf3690ddd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200930/62dee8abdddc518c5a905a08445e1dca.jpg

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[89T]

So we have some coolant upgradeshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201020/dd3e2a7ef56611aa864496a07e8c490c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201020/b46064c19a6557fbad80cb4cd7e2b796.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201020/d7588591856644e091ef45ec888a7369.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201020/d0028377a854b24cb67a9cbc58020375.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201020/138aebcb8dcca04c778dbca8175414f5.jpg

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[bullard123]

What up Jerry. Good to see the project still going! Nice upgrade

[89T]

Thanks.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201022/45249d8d4289a861daa6ffe82ed91bc1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201022/05e7e2edb5fc3a17e91474b667d066f4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201022/0e3e110cafb62fd4913e7b4f1ac0d927.jpg

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[ShiRen]

PFI lol. Those guys are whack. Very cool.

[89T]

PFI lol. Those guys are whack. Very cool.Really.

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