is it worth doing an engine swap?

[Qthestuntman]

I have an 88 auto with 140k on it and i am wondering if doing a engine swap is worth it. o it is carbed.

thanks

[reanimator420]

nope. not unless you want to go FI or if the engine is giving you problems. Are you trying to swap a different honda engine in? if so the kseries is the way to go. easy swap:bong:

[A18A]

it depends what the car is worth to you i reckon

[Cheeseburger]

nope. not unless you want to go FI or if the engine is giving you problems. Are you trying to swap a different honda engine in? if so the kseries is the way to go. easy swap:bong:

haha!


what kind of swap are u talking about. swaping in a A20a3 to replace ur A20A1 or are u talking about swapping another series swap like a b-series swap?

[89T]

anything you do is going to be a bitch.
what are you'r goals and what do you expect?

[Cheeseburger]

and how much money do u have??? cuz a swap isnt cheap

[Vanilla Sky]

i'd swap to EFI and keep an a series. these cars aren't that heavy, so it doesn't take a whole lot of power to be fast. a simple turbo setup will get you a long way. just look up what accord epicenter has done with his car and what he's getting out of it.

[Qthestuntman]

I got it for a grand and it does not o me anything. I just wanted to have some fun with it. I replaced the revers gear to get rid of the crunching sound and a some other things. I am working on fixing am oil leek.

[reanimator420]

well definetly a fi swap is in your future my friend and:welcome:

[Vanilla Sky]

where are you located? there's a decent amount of power to be found with some carb mods.

[reanimator420]

but it is also a lot easier to work with fi though. but for a g, i would not go in too deep unless you like it.

[Qthestuntman]

it needs to last at least three years

[reanimator420]

is it giving you ne problems? where in nc are you located? glad to see more and more nc people on. pp is full of nc people:thumbdn:

[SteveDX89]

I have an 88 auto with 140k on it and i am wondering if doing a engine swap is worth it. o it is carbed.
thanks

Nope. Just buy mine. All the hard work is done for you.
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54276

[reanimator420]

nice one^ lol yeah buy that one for sure. b16 already in.................

[Qthestuntman]

I am in greensboro nc

[Qthestuntman]

it is dripping some oil but i put some oil die in the other day. it runs pretty good and is in pretty good shape. like i said i did some trans work but that is all.

[MessyHonda]

Nope. Just buy mine. All the hard work is done for you.
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54276


nice....i like that..lol

[Cheeseburger]

you still didn't answer our questions, what are u planing on doing?

[MessyHonda]

lol..cheese...he does not know that our cars are not civics....we cant go out and just buy mounts and expect another engine will fit...you still got to go a long way...and that is convert to Fuel injection.

[Cheeseburger]

you have to ask ur self these questions before u even start a swap

is the body in exellent condition?
do i have the money?
whos going to swap the engine in for me?
where am i going to get the engine from?
do u have another car that i can use while the other car is worked on?

[MessyHonda]

you have to ask ur self these questions before u even start a swap
is the body in exellent condition?
do i have the money?
whos going to swap the engine in for me?
where am i going to get the engine from?
do u have another car that i can use while the other car is worked on?

your on the ball on this one Abe :thumbup:....



you forgot one tho...how much aspirin will i need

[snoopyloopy]

but the first/most important question he should ask before deciding is what are his plans with the car? sure, he may not exactly know right now. but what does he want to see from it?

[shepherd79]

like a lot of guys said, you should consider a lot of things before you do any swaps. One of the major ones IMO would be to have a second car to get around.

if you want reliable daily driver, stick with what you have a just fix it up.

[Qthestuntman]

money is not an issue. i have an inturnship at an auto shop that works on hondas and acuras so i can get an engine and trans pretty cheep. check out there site at: http://www.thehondapeople.com/

[snoopyloopy]

but you're still stuck with the wrong b20. first off, it's the b20A that bolts in and that's a b20B. secondly, the b20A that does bolt in was never available in n. america. b20a5 and b20a7 will not bolt in. and neither will the b20a from the 3g preludes, which have engine serial # starting with 5xx,xxx. the one that bolts in has serial # starting with 1xx,xxx. also, the one that bolts in has the oil filler cap on the tranny side of the valve cover, prelude b20a has oil filler cap on accessory side. now if you do want to put in the b20b, it's the same as putting in a b16, b17, or b18. the mount points are all the same between that family of engines.

[Cheeseburger]

money is not an issue. i have an inturnship at an auto shop that works on hondas and acuras so i can get an engine and trans pretty cheep. check out there site at: http://www.thehondapeople.com/



wicked!

[Qthestuntman]

with out doing a swap. what would be the best things to do to get more hp?

[shepherd79]

with out doing a swap. what would be the best things to do to get more hp?
it all depends on how tight is your budget.
1. headers with full exhaust. replace the cat for high flowing one or regular after market one. Stock cat is very restrictive.
2. Cold air intake. you have a few choices. you can make one, instructions in HOW to section. Or you can buy one, 90-93 integra (a few cuttings to the pipes will be needed) or 94+ accord Intake (5th gen accord)(no cutting required to the piping, just the fender).
3. Performance camshaft. You have a few choices. Look under FAQ.
4. Regular tune up. Use Honda parts and you should have nice running car.


If you want more power, you can always build turbo for it. It is not cheap and proper tuning will required. You can get away with hack on tunning up to 8psi, it should give you around 160-180hp. or you can convert to OBD-1 and go higher.

[Qthestuntman]

right know i am working on the inside but i would like to start on the engine. every thing is stock so anything will be an improvement.

[snoopyloopy]

do a 5-speed swap. should help with the get up factor. headers + exhaust will make you a happy camper as well. and a lightened flywheel + upgraded clutch. a cam regrind as well. do the civic air box mod and you can get a cold air. and that's about it without actually touching the engine itself.

[shepherd79]

right know i am working on the inside but i would like to start on the engine. every thing is stock so anything will be an improvement.

since you have carb, you can swap the stock carb for a weber carb if you don't have emission laws or test. Headers, full exhaust, weber carb and mild cam will give you nice power boost.

[Qthestuntman]

do a 5-speed swap. should help with the get up factor. headers + exhaust will make you a happy camper as well. and a lightened flywheel + upgraded clutch. a cam regrind as well. do the civic air box mod and you can get a cold air. and that's about it without actually touching the engine itself.


it's an automatic but would be nice.

[snoopyloopy]

do a tranny swap. just look at the how-to write-up on the forum and grab all the required parts and go to town.

[MessyHonda]

yeah our automatics dont like the extra power....5 speed will take more abuse.

[Cheeseburger]

5 speed FTW!!!!, but if ur going to do an engine swap (like a b-swap) just swap in a 5 speed at the same time

[Qthestuntman]

I don't want to put in a clutch. thats a bit to much work right now. I might go with headers until my tranny wears out. then do a swap.

[shepherd79]

you can always add heavy duty tranny cooler. It will extend the life of your tranny.

[Qthestuntman]

nice i like it

[snoopyloopy]

well i have a short ram and i/h/e and my tranny is hell. but it was already going out before i put any of the breathing mods on (only engine mods i have at the moment, though). but i'm going to swap it soon before i do any more mods. but if your tranny is in good shape right now, it shouldn't kill it immediately to have the extra power unless you're one of those people who like neutral drops a lot. and if you do like shepherd79 suggested and put a heavy duty tranny cooler in, you should be fine for awhile.

[Qthestuntman]

well i am not going to worry about the tranny at this monment. i was working on fixing an oil leak and found out that it was the oil pan gaskekt. i removed the oil pan and there is alot of metle chips in the botom. i checked the mane bearings and they are shot. i ordered some and they will be here monday. i am looking right now for a rused tranny (5 speed). any ideas about were to get one?

[snoopyloopy]

well, yeah, if you're gonna have the engine out of the car, might as well get a 5 speed swap done at the same time. look to spend in the neighborhood of $500 for the tranny swap. so far, i've spent $150 for tranny, clutch, and pp, $50 for pedals and shift linkage, and $10 for a speedo cable. you can probably score a tranny and all the other parts at your local junkyard. but i would go w/ a new clutch disc just to avoid the hassle of having to change it again soon. oh, $120 for new axles. but you only really need a new d/s axle.