Rear Lower Poly shock bushings installed.

[Legend_master]

Well awhile back I purchased the rear lower control are bushing kit for the 3gee off nopi.com. It turns out that the kit is for a 4G and will not work on our cars. I did notice that the bushings in the kit are the same size as the 3gee rear shock bushings. So I removed the factory bushing from my SE-i rear setup (will work with disk or drums) and placed the poly bushings inside. To my enjoyment it fits like a glove. I have two sets left (the kit was for the rear LCA's and came with 8 bushings) and I will sell them for the amount I paid in the market section. SO here are the pics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/Legend_Master/DSCF0001-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/Legend_Master/DSCF0002-3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/Legend_Master/DSCF0003-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/Legend_Master/DSCF00022.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/Legend_Master/DSCF00012.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/Legend_Master/DSCF0016-1.jpg

Here is the info on the bushings from nopi if anybody want to group buy a box. Nopi Link (http://www.nopionline.com/nopistore/dsp_part_detail.cfm?vmakeid=140&vmodelid=010&vcatyear=1989&vnopinum=432%2B0066&vTitle=1989%20HONDA%20Accord)

1989 HONDA Accord
Control Arm Bushng Kit Honda
PROTHANE Bushing Kit - Control Arm Unit of Measure: Kit
Part Number: 432+0066 Core Price: $0.00
Urethane LOWER C-Arm Bushng Kit - ALL Mdls - REAR - RED

[MessyHonda]

did you have to press em in?

[Legend_master]

Nope, they just slip in.

[thegreatdane]

They might well develope play if the fit isnt snug enough to require being pressed in.

[Legend_master]

They might well develope play if the fit isnt snug enough to require being pressed in.


but the only forces on them will be up and down. How could they play back and forth?

[thegreatdane]

Excactly, up and down. Vertical play is what I meant. But cant say if it will be a problem, time will tell I guess.

[Legend_master]

Actually it fit very well and there is no play up and down. It just dosent have to be pressed in. check out these pics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/Legend_Master/DSCF00022.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/Legend_Master/DSCF00012.jpg

[EricW]

Nice work. I may have to pic up a set of those from you.

[ghettogeddy]

how much lol
i need to re dp all mine thought lol front and rear

[Cheeseburger]

how do they feel?

[Legend_master]

how do they feel?


They have not been installed on the car yet.


Nice work. I may have to pic up a set of those from you.

Thanks, I have one set left.


how much lol
i need to re dp all mine thought lol front and rear

$20 + shipping, no paypal

[Cheeseburger]

dope let us know how it gose!

[Legend_master]

Bumped installed on the car.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/Legend_Master/DSCF0016-1.jpg

[forrest89sei]

Sweet!

[HondaBoy]

looks good. just how long did it take you to get these parts? last i ordered from nopi, it too 10 weeks for my header to get to me. good part though.

[Legend_master]

looks good. just how long did it take you to get these parts? last i ordered from nopi, it too 10 weeks for my header to get to me. good part though.


I believe it only took a week or so, but all the prothane was ordered through nopi and shipped directly from prothane. So I believe all there availability is based on how much stock they have of the particular item.

[b20a86lude]

well i stil have yet to c a front lower control arm poly bushings installed or anybody do it im very intrested n doing it.

[Legend_master]

well i stil have yet to c a front lower control arm poly bushings installed or anybody do it im very intrested n doing it.


Actually fallow the link for my car in my sig and go to my suspension thread. I have them installed.

Edit:here you go
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/Legend_Master/59fe0b8d.jpg

[P|eszczoH]

Legend Master,
Can You measure them up ?
lenght, diameter, also the collar lenght, and inner outer diameter.

We will see if it's like the oem honda one, or not.

[Legend_master]

Legend Master,
Can You measure them up ?
lenght, diameter, also the collar lenght, and inner outer diameter.
We will see if it's like the oem honda one, or not.


Thats the best I can do.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/Legend_Master/61e769f2.jpg

[P|eszczoH]

Legend Master,
Could You use a tool like this ? http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suwmiarka

or just get those numbers with what You have. I don't need pictures, I nned numbers. I will try to get oem honda numbers tomorow, and we will be able to check them.
like i said, the diameter that You tried to show here, the lenght would be nice to
and if You can the collar outer diameter.

[Legend_master]

Legend Master,
Could You use a tool like this ? http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suwmiarka
or just get those numbers with what You have. I don't need pictures, I nned numbers. I will try to get oem honda numbers tomorow, and we will be able to check them.
like i said, the diameter that You tried to show here, the lenght would be nice to
and if You can the collar outer diameter.

Bushing Diameter = 1 7/16"

Bushing and collar Length = 1 5/4"

The collar is the same diameter as the as the bushings.

[SQ is the SQUAD]

any ideas for the big trailing arm bushing?

[Legend_master]

any ideas for the big trailing arm bushing?



Look at the G2 integras and G3 preludes, that would be the only application I would think to be similar and have that kind of aftermarket support.

[P|eszczoH]

Bushing Diameter = 1 7/16"
Bushing and collar Length = 1 5/4"
The collar is the same diameter as the as the bushings.


Sorry for the delay.
Thanks to TheGreatdane we can see this:

http://republika.pl/pieszczoh/tylny amorek.jpg

40mm = 1,57 inch
26mm=1.02 inch
37,1mm=1,46inch
10mm=0.39inch

[2drSE-i]

Bushing Diameter = 1 7/16"
Bushing and collar Length = 1 5/4"
The collar is the same diameter as the as the bushings.


1 7/16 = 1.4375,
1 4/5 (i think thats what u mean?) 1.8

edit: so the diameter is smaller by .0225 and the length is .23 bigger. so its not the same but its pretty damn close

[Oldblueaccord]

I have 2.315" length strut to LC arm bushing
1.460" round
.386" hole


For the bushing that goes LC arm to the body.

2.065-2.085" length
1.145" round
.460" hole



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[Legend_master]

1 7/16 = 1.4375,
1 4/5 (i think thats what u mean?) 1.8
edit: so the diameter is smaller by .0225 and the length is .23 bigger. so its not the same but its pretty damn close


It fits like a glove in my hubs, I have not had any problems and I have put about 600 miles on them.

[P|eszczoH]

I have 2.315" lenght strut to LC arm bushing
1.460" round
.386" hole
For the bushing that goes LC arm to the body.
2.065-2.085" lenght
1.145" round
.460" hole
wp


you mean Front ?


and Legend - Yes, its good that it is so close... and that Youve tested them for us.
Its not the same, but close as hell thats why its good enough.

Legend Master, can You tell me one thing, did You reused the outer shell for the rear or not ?

[Legend_master]

you mean Front ?


and Legend - Yes, its good that it is so close... and that Youve tested them for us.
Its not the same, but close as hell thats why its good enough.

Legend Master, can You tell me one thing, did You reused the outer shell for the rear or not ?


Nope, I took the old bushing and shell completely out.

[P|eszczoH]

Thank You :-)
it seems that what we need next is the rear susp arms bushings.

[Oldblueaccord]

you mean Front ?
and Legend - Yes, its good that it is so close... and that Youve tested them for us.
Its not the same, but close as hell thats why its good enough.
Legend Master, can You tell me one thing, did You reused the outer shell for the rear or not ?
yes
http://home.comcast.net/~joeblowut2004/LCA_bushings.jpg
sorry my scanner not really doing it justice. I kept the old shells in the arm there to hard to get out but my bushings I made myself.
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[Oldblueaccord]

http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470&LineCode=NCP&PartNumber=2673507&Description=Control+Arm+Bushing+-+Lower+-+Front+Susp



http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470&LineCode=NCP&PartNumber=2673387&Description=Control+Arm+Bushing+-+Lower+-+Front+Susp


pretty sure these are ours. Double check me. The second link comes up as a few differant cars. 1995 civics are very close


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[Legend_master]

http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470&LineCode=NCP&PartNumber=2673507&Description=Control+Arm+Bushing+-+Lower+-+Front+Susp
http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470&LineCode=NCP&PartNumber=2673387&Description=Control+Arm+Bushing+-+Lower+-+Front+Susp
pretty sure these are ours. Double check me. The second link comes up as a few differant cars. 1995 civics are very close
wp

They make poly bushings for the fron lower contol arms of our cars. THey are made by prothane. Check out my suspension thread for more info.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/Legend_Master/59fe0b8d.jpg

[Oldblueaccord]

Your correct. althought last time I looked at the cat. i did not see our car listed anymore. I just assumes since he was in Poland he could not get them for some reason.

As for myself I try not to buy things that I can make and I wanted solid bushings or sperical bearings. Niether I could find so I made some out of Nylon. its just something I am testing for myself but since he ask for dimensions I thought Id throw in what I know.


EDIT:


http://www.prothane.com/pages/applications.html

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[Legend_master]

Your correct. althought last time I looked at the cat. i did not see our car listed anymore. I just assumes since he was in Poland he could not get them for some reason.
As for myself I try not to buy things that I can make and I wanted solid bushings or sperical bearings. Niether I could find so I made some out of Nylon. its just something I am testing for myself but since he ask for dimensions I thought Id throw in what I know.
EDIT:
http://www.prothane.com/pages/applications.html
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The reason they are not listed is because they are actually for a civic. On nopi they are listed for the accord, but when you receive the bushings the application says for a civic. I guess the civic and accords share the same lower control arm.

Edit: I feel you on wanting to make your own parts, its cheaper and you know the quality of the item you make.

[SQ is the SQUAD]

i am lazy, i rather buy it. the bushings arent that expensive. it just sucks that i have new rubber bushings that i never used, oh well, they will come in handy some day

[P|eszczoH]

The reason they are not listed is because they are actually for a civic. On nopi they are listed for the accord, but when you receive the bushings the application says for a civic. I guess the civic and accords share the same lower control arm.
Edit: I feel you on wanting to make your own parts, its cheaper and you know the quality of the item you make.

We have one of the bushings the same as the civics 4th gen.
i think the inner one. Its the same PN.
the other under the shock is from a Prelude 3rd gen.
In a prothane catalog, every number comes clear. They make the same parts for civics and for accords, but they claim that we have to leave one of the shells in ours Carms.

[P|eszczoH]

So as far as my reasearch went we got:
front:
51393-se0-003 bush front lower arm which is civic/crx 90/91, prelude 89/91
51810-se0-003 bush shock absorber fork - which is a prelude 89/91 but when we look in prothane catalog the prothanes part number refers to civic 89/90
and honda pn is: 51810-sh3-003
52316-692-010 - rubber stabilizes which refers to so many hondas.. like civic,crx, prelude,shuttle 89/91 and more

what is different in honda EPC is the radius rod bushing A and B matches only for accord.

Rear:
here is a little problem, only common bushing is the bush stabiliser end 52316-sa5-000 which is so common part.....
than we have
52315-se0-000 bush rr stabiliser
52365-se0-003 bush rr lower arm
52365-sg0-010 bush comp. rr lower arm

which came in our 3g and Legend sedan and coupe 89

52384-se0-g04 bush comp. trailinng arm refers only for accords,
just like the 52622-se0-013 shock bushing.

I dont know if there is many Legend 1g lover out there in USA, but maybe...
someone did managed to got some poly for them ? any body know something?

[SQ is the SQUAD]

u just confussed the hell out of me!

[Legend_master]

I dont know if there is many Legend 1g lover out there in USA, but maybe...
someone did managed to got some poly for them ? any body know something?

As a former G1 Legend enthusiast, I can tell you they have less aftermarket support then we do. If you are talking about the rear lower control arms, those donot have bushings. THey are solid from the factory, the onyl rear bushings are the shock bushing and the trail arm bushing.

[P|eszczoH]

yeah rear lower control arms, and solid ?
as far as I was checking my aero there are just normal bushings
made from some rubber, outer and inner collar with own part number, changeable also. The ones near exhaust are rusting and stucking, which can be a problem for changing wheel geometry if there is such an issue.

[SQ is the SQUAD]

dude, take pictures

[Legend_master]

The one highlighted in yellow is solid, the one in red is a bushing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/Legend_Master/SHockandLowerbushings.jpg

[thegreatdane]

The one marked with yellow is also a regular bushing that can be replaced ;)

[P|eszczoH]

The one marked with yellow is also a regular bushing that can be replaced ;)

In My opinion it is...
I was looking at the Honda EPC and it is replaceable bushing like any other,
so i dont know why You (I mean Legend_Master) claim its a solid one...

I could take some more pics, but in 2 months time, when temperature get higher, couse I dont feel like laying on the ground when there is 0 Celsius out side.

[Legend_master]

In My opinion it is...
I was looking at the Honda EPC and it is replaceable bushing like any other,
so i dont know why You (I mean Legend_Master) claim its a solid one...

I could take some more pics, but in 2 months time, when temperature get higher, couse I dont feel like laying on the ground when there is 0 Celsius out side.

It is removable and replaceable, but I don't believe it is made of rubber. That is why I call it a solid bushing. I might be mistaken, but that is the idea I got from taking mine apart.

[P|eszczoH]

hmm I got an opposite feeling when taking mine apart...

One thing I know, One of us is in a mistake :)

[Legend_master]

One thing I know, One of us is in a mistake :)


Well we can both agree on that :lol: .

[MessyHonda]

you poly whores....i want i want i want...lol