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matrixdrrrrr
09-04-2002, 07:12 PM
I know someone know out there... so I wont ask if someone does.
What are the different engines for the 3rd Gen accord models. Please give specific detail (ex: carbed, inkjected, displacement, Power, torque, etc..)

Thanks

smufguy
09-04-2002, 07:49 PM
A20A1 2.0 12V SOHC 2bbl Carb 1955 98hp@5500rpm 109tq@3500rpm '87-'89 Accord DX/LX (USA)

A20A3 2.0 12V SOHC PGM-FI 1955 110hp@5500rpm 114tq@4500rpm '87 Accord LX-i (USA)

A20A4 2.0 12V SOHC PGM-FI 1955 120hp@5500rpm 122tq@4000rpm '88-'89 Accord LX-i (USA)


this is from http://members.aol.com/sean879/hondaengines.html

smufguy
09-04-2002, 07:50 PM
there was also a B20A1 in japan which had 160 hp and 140 lf-ft of torque, it was available in japan.

matrixdrrrrr
09-04-2002, 07:54 PM
hey thanks... turns out I've got the shittiest of them all..guess I'll have to get started!

So there was never a DOHC 16v until the b series? that sucks. tgffi (thank god for fuel injection)..... and the vtec system... we can't forget that sacred system...

pric
09-04-2002, 08:36 PM
Actually the A20A4 were in the asian market not in the USDM and the A20A3 were in the 87-89 USDM. The 88-89 models got an increase in comp. from the 87 model of 8.8:1 to 9.3:1 in the 88-89 models and a few other things like the dual stage intake manifold plus the exhaust manifold was a 4-2-1 design. Also the 88-89 models produced 120hp @ 5800 rpm.

Shifty
03-16-2003, 05:55 AM
dude i got a 87 and a A20A4 n they're from an 88 ?.. how does that work out :/

MIK3
03-16-2003, 09:26 AM
This is a cool thread...there's no way my carbed dx only has 109 :(

bobafett
03-16-2003, 10:24 AM
ok so the a20a3 didnt happen until 87??

jeez i wonder how i got fuel injection in my car???!!!??!

Jims 86LXI HB
03-16-2003, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by bobafett
ok so the a20a3 didnt happen until 87??

jeez i wonder how i got fuel injection in my car???!!!??!

Ya know I used to worry about autopart site's that wanted me to plug in my engine code to look up parts. Was I putting in the right engine code? In the end I don't care. If you've got a carbed car you got 98hp, injected 86-87 110hp, injected 88-89 120-122hp, codes smodes:D :tongue:

86AccordLxi
03-16-2003, 11:12 AM
Bobafett: the 86 Lxi engine is the BT engine (Carbed is BS). That's what they were called before the A20.

Alex

AvgWhtMale
03-16-2003, 03:41 PM
... but they're the same engine. '86 & '87 LX-i engines are the same, just called different names. Same for '86 & '87 carbed engines, I believe. I would defer to Carotman (he is Canadian) on this one.

Shifty, you're in Australia, so these rules do not apply. Chances are, you could get your hands on a B20A and have some real fun. Or, just ship it stateside and I'm sure someone would take it off your hands...

bobafett
03-16-2003, 05:01 PM
grr. i feel cheated. i dont even have an a20a3!!! :)

maybe when i do a rebuild i will make sure the donor engine is an 88-89! :)

chomezy
03-16-2003, 10:04 PM
What about an 86 EXi PGM-FI? Does anyone know what the specs for that car is? I only ask because that's what I have. Sorry if someone answered that already.

Thanks

Jareds 89 LX-i
03-16-2003, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by chomezy
What about an 86 EXi PGM-FI? Does anyone know what the specs for that car is? I only ask because that's what I have. Sorry if someone answered that already.

Thanks
It's the same as the 87.... 110 hp and 114 ft. lbs torque, 8.8:1 compression ratio

chomezy
03-16-2003, 10:29 PM
Thanks for the info.

I envy you guys, I see all these 3g's and my 3g looks like it's seen better days. But keep it up, it gives me something to dream about!!!!!

:D

Low Tek
03-17-2003, 01:34 PM
so my 86 LXi only has 110 hp? I have the pmg fi too.. someone told me that the JDM a20 has more hp?? true or bs? :wtf:

'A20A3'
03-17-2003, 07:34 PM
awesome...i want a B20A3 now....160 hp..in a 3g....mmmmmmmmmm *drool*

'A20A3'
03-17-2003, 07:36 PM
does anyone know how i could get one, and how much it might cost???

thanks

87AccordsterLx
03-18-2003, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by im_on_speed88LX-i
awesome...i want a B20A3 now....160 hp..in a 3g....mmmmmmmmmm *drool*

I bet you could get it close to 200hp with intake, headers, exhaust, and a cam regrind... now 200hp in a 3g... :D thats all together bad ass.

goldyaccord
03-18-2003, 07:05 PM
:rolleyes: what would we without newbies :D J/K!

I was one way back in the day......:flash:

ryer_s
03-20-2003, 07:01 AM
what makes the a3 and a4 so different that there is a 10 hp difference?

ryer_s
03-20-2003, 07:04 AM
what ever 87AccordsterLx there is no way headers intake and cam grind will give you 40 hp. maybe 10 if you had it at dyno and tune it. easy 40 horses is turbo and cheap also

AvgWhtMale
03-20-2003, 06:00 PM
Look a little more closely. The A20A3 is the 2.0 FI engine in the USDM Accords (LX-i & SE-i). '86 & '87's had 110HP and 88/89's have 120HP, due to a dual stage intake manifold, a 4-2-1 exhaust manifold, and something else that I can't remember.

DarknessRS
03-21-2003, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by ryer_s
what ever 87AccordsterLx there is no way headers intake and cam grind will give you 40 hp. maybe 10 if you had it at dyno and tune it. easy 40 horses is turbo and cheap also

Intake, Headers, Exhaust, Cam, Throttlebody, Ignition, and Flywheel:

http://openloopmotorsports.com/dyno2.jpg

That's about 160hp at the flywheel.

ryer_s
03-21-2003, 07:24 PM
its not 40 hp that is only about 20, 25 horse power. i dont really care what ho you have at the fly wheel cause you will never see that hp.

1989 DX R
03-21-2003, 07:28 PM
Ryer, those are the power numbers at the wheels. That car probably has somewhere about 150-160 power at the flywheel.

150hp - 120hp = 30hp .

3rd GEN
03-21-2003, 10:20 PM
where do you check the code on the engine??
someone said it was behind the intake manifold on the driver side.. but i can't find it..

YK86
03-21-2003, 11:25 PM
It's at the front of the engine right where the tranny mates to the engine.

sanjay
03-22-2003, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by AvgWhtMale
...

Shifty, you're in Australia, so these rules do not apply. Chances are, you could get your hands on a B20A and have some real fun. Or, just ship it stateside and I'm sure someone would take it off your hands...

I would LOVE to have a B series engine! but they're not available in 3rd gen accords here (in australia).

A20A1 - USDM style Carbed
A20A2 - JDM style Carbed
A20A3 - USDM style EFI
A20A4 - JDM style EFI

that's right baby!

sanjay
03-22-2003, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by Low Tek
so my 86 LXi only has 110 hp? I have the pmg fi too.. someone told me that the JDM a20 has more hp?? true or bs? :wtf:

BS - My engine (A20A4) is the exact same as a A20A3....

TitaniumSun
03-22-2003, 02:20 AM
ok so ive got an 89 dx 2dr coupe and if i put headers, hi-flo cat, and exhuast with a cold air intake mod what power should i have??? cause i am stupid and dont know much about cars but i have learned alot from this forum!!!!


DW