(how-to:) rear disk brake swap

[snoopyloopy]

(i'll also put the pix for the how-to in this thread hence the title)
showed up at the jy this morning a little late. but boy am i glad i went. i was trotting through the import section and i see a leather seat on the ground near a white coupe. so i go over, and it has leather inside, an armrest (ripped) and cupholders. so my curiosity is peaked, i knock off the rear wheels and there looking back at me were a set of disk brakes. kinda rusty, but maybe a rebuild might do the trick along w/ some new rotors. but on a side note, either this was a well-appointed car from the factory, it had an se-i swap, or someone rebadged their se-i as an lx-i.
now for those pix:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/snoopyloopy/car/accord/P1240194.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/snoopyloopy/car/accord/P1240193.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/snoopyloopy/car/accord/P1240192.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/snoopyloopy/car/accord/P1240191.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/snoopyloopy/car/accord/P1240190.jpg

[TWOLOUDNPROUD]

Thay could look like this when your done
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/6/web/486000-486999/486873_44_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/6/web/486000-486999/486873_45_full.jpg

[mkymonkey]

i thought you only needed the top arm....not the control arms....or whatever they are....and that rear arm.

[mkymonkey]

Thay could look like this when your done
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/6/web/486000-486999/486873_44_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/6/web/486000-486999/486873_45_full.jpg

see thats all i got from the jy when i took them from the sei i found

[Cheeseburger]

what kind of paint did u use tommy?

[mkymonkey]

i would assume, it would be high temp black....lol

[MessyHonda]

mine had almost everthing that snoopy has besides the top upper control arm...my stock ones fit just fine... the calipers on mine looked brand new

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Messybone/LX-i/DSCF2546Medium.jpg


i love how it stops....makes me want to go drive right now...and like BEYYAAAAAAAA!

[TWOLOUDNPROUD]

what kind of paint did u use tommy?
Rust-Oleum then i bake them at 300 for 45 min's it been over two years now March of 2004 and the pant still on no chips:bandance:

[snoopyloopy]

damnit. i could've saved like $50-$100 then. but i wasn't sure what all was needed. oh well. it is easier to just grab all of it. the girl at the window was going crazy trying to figure out what was all there so they wouldn't undercharge me.

edit: by the way, i'm going to rebuild the calipers since they look like a spider's nest. are these good rebuild kits?
http://replacement.autopartswarehouse.com/parts/autopartswarehouse/wizard.jsp?year=1989&make=HO&model=ACC-SEI4-001&category=All&part=Caliper%20Repair%20Kit&dp=true

[mkymonkey]

ok so no one has answered my question yet....do you or do you not need the other arms...all i got was this

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5071/hpim2884re1.jpg

[MessyHonda]

damnit. i could've saved like $50-$100 then. but i wasn't sure what all was needed. oh well. it is easier to just grab all of it. the girl at the window was going crazy trying to figure out what was all there so they wouldn't undercharge me.

edit: by the way, i'm going to rebuild the calipers since they look like a spider's nest. are these good rebuild kits?
http://replacement.autopartswarehouse.com/parts/autopartswarehouse/wizard.jsp?year=1989&make=HO&model=ACC-SEI4-001&category=All&part=Caliper%20Repair%20Kit&dp=true



i would go with the bigger caliper....look at legends thread i think the caliper is from the 1st gen legend...my calipers almost look brand new but i will have to take em apart since my disks are drilled and sloted and you can hear them grabing but when i let go off the break its a minior drag......some lube should help it.

[jlros75]

No, you dont need other arms. What you got it's fine.

[wprocomp]

before:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/356000-356999/356257_144_full.jpg
after:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/356000-356999/356257_154_full.jpg

[Legend_master]

ok so no one has answered my question yet....do you or do you not need the other arms...all i got was this


You don't need those arms, but you do need the bracket that attaches the trailing arm to the hub. It makes the swap much easier if you grab the whole trailing arm.

[mkymonkey]

yeah i know it makes it easier....but i think i broke the arm or it was broken or something when me and acidx were trying to take the rear disks off.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/356000-356999/356257_154_full.jpg

i asked ya before, when you originally posted these pics....what paint did you use on the calipers?

[MessyHonda]

thats nice Wprocomp....i need to paint my front calipers.

[wprocomp]

yeah i know it makes it easier....but i think i broke the arm or it was broken or something when me and acidx were trying to take the rear disks off.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/356000-356999/356257_154_full.jpg
i asked ya before, when you originally posted these pics....what paint did you use on the calipers?

they are powdercoated,they turned out a bit flat but I like the color I tried to get as close to brembo gold as I could,I was gonna repaint them to match my spoon calipers but I sold them,I spent a little too much cash and forgot about bills lol

[mkymonkey]

I spent a little too much cash and forgot about bills

dont you hate it when that happens? lmao

[forrest89sei]

Looking Great!

[snoopyloopy]

i would go with the bigger caliper....look at legends thread i think the caliper is from the 1st gen legend...my calipers almost look brand new but i will have to take em apart since my disks are drilled and sloted and you can hear them grabing but when i let go off the break its a minior drag......some lube should help it.
i'll check it out. i might start out w/ these and upgrade to those later, though. especially since i probably won't touch the front brakes yet so i don't want the backs too powerful yet. and yeah, i think i'll end up going with dimpled/slotted disks all around and aem pads. so i'll probably take these stockers off and vend them.

[BITESIZE]

I know I need these lol, but what is the trailing arms?

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5071/hpim2884re1.jpg

Can someone use arrows to show exactly what I need to get.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/356000-356999/356257_154_full.jpg

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/catimgs/13se00_j05.gif
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/catimgs/13se00_j17.gif

[guaynabo89]

you just need whats in the first picture along with the ebrake cables.

you dontnned the trailing arms they are the same on drum n disk.

make sure you get the rear knucle complete with caliper soft brake caliper line along with the hard brake line it gets atached to begind the knucle. thats all. well ebrake cable of course.

[Legend_master]

Just so you know the trailing arm is #19 in that pic.

[BITESIZE]

So just this and the ebrake cables along with the prop valve thing?
I'm driving a ways a way and I'm not going to want to drive back for a 3rd time.

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5071/hpim2884re1.jpg

[Legend_master]

So just this and the ebrake cables along with the prop valve thing?
I'm driving a ways a way and I'm not going to want to drive back for a 3rd time.
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5071/hpim2884re1.jpg


yep :) .

[BITESIZE]

Sweet!!! I've got my back pack packed with water bottles, tools up the yin yang, gloves, latex gloves. I'm set to go get my golden brakes!!!!

[knarg]

i want se-i rear brakes :[

[MessyHonda]

i want se-i rear brakes :[


baby 3geezus says you can have mine if you give me your konis.

[wprocomp]

i want se-i rear brakes :[

I could get like 6-7 sets of rear disc around here tomorrow If I knew people pay for them-but unfortunitly they wont:violin:

[guaynabo89]

you might need the master cylinder.

I dont know if the hatch got the same as sedans so you might need it.

[BITESIZE]

This is the first set I've ever seen!! On my way right now. I'll be back with pictures!

[snoopyloopy]

I could get like 6-7 sets of rear disc around here tomorrow If I knew people pay for them-but unfortunitly they wont:violin:
it's not that people won't pay for them, it's just that they won't pay for the shipping. that'll probably be more than the brakes themselves.

[russiankid]

you might need the master cylinder.
I dont know if the hatch got the same as sedans so you might need it.
I am running the LX MC and SE-i rear discs with the SE-i prop valve and LX front brakes and no problems at all.

[BITESIZE]

you might need the master cylinder.
I dont know if the hatch got the same as sedans so you might need it.


Did you swap the master cylinder?

[Pico]

master's are the same for the LX-i and SEI models

[BITESIZE]

master's are the same for the LX-i and SEI models


Great news to hear! :welcome:

[guaynabo89]

I did swap the master cylinders but mine is a 87. the 86-87 and 88-89 dx lx have the smaller caliper rotor combo. The master cylinder on all those have a smaller diameter prop valve than the 88-89 lxi sei.

So if your front brakes came stock with the smaller caliper rotor combo than you need to swap it out.

you can use the lx master cylinder and work just fine it just wont push as much fluid as it needs to for the larger piston calipers. it will mayube just take a little more pedal tavel to do the same with the large diameter mc. but if you are still running the lx ca;ipers up front that might be why havent really noticed a difference.

thanks pico for clarifying the 88-89 lxi sei being the same. I couldnt remeber off the top of my head.

[snoopyloopy]

well, i've heard the mc is the same, but the prop valve is still different.

[guaynabo89]

86-87 all and 88-89 lx dx are he same

88-89 lxi sei same

[wprocomp]

well, i've heard the mc is the same, but the prop valve is still different.

I will say it again-it does not make a difference in pedal feel what so ever-I have used a dx/lx-i/se-i/lude prop valve and it never felt any different at all-its not worth the time imo

[russiankid]

I will say it again-it does not make a difference in pedal feel what so ever-I have used a dx/lx-i/se-i/lude prop valve and it never felt any different at all-its not worth the time imo
I have an LX, and with the SE-i prop valve the pedal does feel different. It is much smoother and firmer than it was before.

[knarg]

baby 3geezus says you can have mine if you give me your konis.

bahaha they just went on the car, and i am in love with them already O_O