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hondaman1986
01-26-2007, 02:55 PM
i was wondering if anyone had tried to put a f22 crank into the a20. the dimentions look about the same and im gonna try a test fit at the yard just to see if it would fit in our blocks so feedback please nothing negative

MessyHonda
01-26-2007, 03:10 PM
i was wondering if anyone had tried to put a f22 crank into the a20. the dimentions look about the same and im gonna try a test fit at the yard just to see if it would fit in our blocks so feedback please nothing negative

well not to be negative but the f22 is a whole diferent engine. .....our crank is pleanty strong to run upwords to 200 hp if you have a balanced bottom end.

forrest89sei
01-26-2007, 03:15 PM
It would be cool if another crank works in the A20.

junk yard Parts Fitting FTW!

Vanilla Sky
01-26-2007, 03:57 PM
correct me if i'm wrong, but even the drag-only a20 engines out there use stock cranks, right? i know johnny-o was running 37 pounds of boost in his 10 second hatch. i don't see why anything else is needed. it's not like there aren't enough a20 cranks to go around.

snoopyloopy
01-26-2007, 03:58 PM
sure, tell us how it goes. we really can't have feedback until you it's done anyway. but just bc it fits, you still have to match a rod/piston combo to it unless it has the exact same dimensions as our motor. as an alternative, if it fits, you could probably use it to make a stroked a20.

hondaman1986
01-26-2007, 04:20 PM
that what i was thinking of a stroked a20. i have the resorces to have custom rods made if it fits. it would be awsome to have a stroked a20 and it would be cool just to say that you have one and it would give you awsome tourqe. anyway ill update how it went soon when i have time to get back to the yard. lets hope it works for the sake of the a20

cygnus x-1
01-26-2007, 07:03 PM
You could have the rod journals ground off center on the A20 crank to get some extra stroke. It would require custom rods and bearings though.

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cubert
01-26-2007, 07:37 PM
im really interested in the turbout of this...let us know

hondaman1986
01-27-2007, 06:27 PM
i should be able to get to the yard this week so ill update soon

AccordEpicenter
01-27-2007, 11:44 PM
stock cranks are nice pieces, forged and nitrided. Im not sure youd want any more stroke than the a20 already has but i am curious if it fits or not

hondaman1986
01-28-2007, 01:07 PM
id like more stroke and its from an engine that rev to 8000 or more rpm so i dont mind at all.

AccordEpicenter
01-28-2007, 02:04 PM
umm i hope youre not talking about the F22 crank, i dont think ive ever seen an F22 spin over 7000

snoopyloopy
01-28-2007, 02:20 PM
true true. if you want to spin your engine that high, i say try a b18a/b crank/rod/piston combo. i doubt it'll be remotely close to fitting, but it appears that the b18a pistons at least fit, though i forgot what rods adam was using when he tried that.

AccordEpicenter
01-28-2007, 03:02 PM
B18A/B rods will fit as long as your pistons have a 21mm wrist pin. Stock accord wrist pins are like 19 or 20mm. Other than that, thats the closest thing to a bolt in we have. The pin heights are different on the B18A/B piston but the bore size is close if you get a much oversize one, but at that point your better off with custom forged a20 pistons like i have. The last thing i would ever do to this engine would be to get a bigger crank

ZackieDarko
01-28-2007, 03:47 PM
i thought A20 pistons were 23mm

hondaman1986
01-28-2007, 06:46 PM
f22 cranks have been known to spin to over 8000rpm intermitently not constantly. im just basicly seeing if the crank and "mabie" the pistons will fit as an option for a cheap reliable stroker kit for our cars thats it not for racing or anything just for the average guy or girl to have in there a20 accord.

I'll update when i go to the yard next wish me luck.

MessyHonda
01-28-2007, 07:29 PM
take pics..

hondaman1986
01-29-2007, 04:32 PM
im going to the yard hopfully tomarow and yes i will take some pics even if it dont fit

HondaBoy
01-29-2007, 04:42 PM
hope your cylinder head will stand up to such high rpms. before i have my engine running anything over 7000 rpm i'm wanting to put some stronger valve springs and lightened pieces. not too fun when shit comes apart. come to think of it that is exactly what happened to my friends integra last thursday. not really supposed to run over 7000 rpm, but live and learn i guess because a lot of people dont listen about that piece of advice.

hondaman1986
01-29-2007, 05:57 PM
what i ment by 8000 rpm is that the f22's are on rare ocasions able to spin to 8000rpm im just looking for the displacement nothing more.


I'll update soon

HondaBoy
01-30-2007, 05:26 PM
i wouldnt doubt with a differnt setting of the rev limiter, the F22 will spin up that much without loosing much power off the top rpms. on a side note, do you know the difference between the F22 and F23 thats in my newer accord? i wondered about that, but never really researched it. aside from the F22 crank, what are your plans for internals? like are you wanting to over bore the cylinders and open up the heads some for better flow? thats what i plan to do, first building the head and later working on the block.

hondaman1986
01-31-2007, 03:58 PM
my plan was the other way around from yours but if it works it would be an awsome solution for stroke. the f23 i dont know much about but if the f22 crank works i dont see y the f23 wouldnt.

hondaman1986
02-06-2007, 03:04 PM
man this is so lame. i cant get to the yard. I just started college and i have no time to go there. dang! well i hope i have a day off soon to go because i have to get the mounting flanges for the rear sway bar so i can put it on... oh well... if some one wants to take this and run with it before i can feal free too.

MessyHonda
02-06-2007, 09:30 PM
paeco sold some strocker kits for our engine....some guy over at prelude power had it he got 2.4L out of his car. that is just crazy

hondaman1986
02-08-2007, 11:28 PM
yea thats definitly crazy

ZackieDarko
02-09-2007, 01:32 AM
where did he get the stroker kit? i have been looking for one but am having no luck


in fact im having no luck finding OEM rods

shepherd79
02-09-2007, 06:54 AM
paeco sold some strocker kits for our engine....some guy over at prelude power had it he got 2.4L out of his car. that is just crazy

well someone should call them and ask about it.

MessyHonda
02-09-2007, 10:24 AM
they dont make them anymore....i have the 06 catelog and i could not find them...the guy at prelude power knew his shit....the kit cost him like 4k

shepherd79
02-09-2007, 11:51 AM
they dont make them anymore....i have the 06 catelog and i could not find them...the guy at prelude power knew his shit....the kit cost him like 4k
did he used diff crank or what?
tell the guy to log in here and explain.
i know 4K is a lot of money but if we can build the engine that can produce a lot more power and huge amounts of torque due to longer stroke we can have some killer engines.

MessyHonda
02-09-2007, 02:42 PM
did he used diff crank or what?
tell the guy to log in here and explain.
i know 4K is a lot of money but if we can build the engine that can produce a lot more power and huge amounts of torque due to longer stroke we can have some killer engines.


ok here is a quote from him

"with the stroker kit goes from 1955cc's to 2385cc's making it a 2.4ltr and yes they sell the stroker kit alone for $1463.00 there expensive as shit but the end results are crazy the torque level, well my torque is 270ft lbs it feels like more than that but hey the dyno don't lie"

2ndGenGuy
02-09-2007, 03:19 PM
You have a link to that thread? I would like to see what else that guy has done. My interest in a stroker kit has been perked.

AccordEpicenter
02-09-2007, 06:15 PM
for 4000 you could be making alot more power than that

ZackieDarko
02-09-2007, 06:25 PM
lol make those K series kids cry

hondaman1986
02-09-2007, 06:53 PM
no kidding:Owned:

Vanilla Sky
02-09-2007, 07:12 PM
wow, if that's all it takes to make that kind of torque, i'd be in. of course i know that's with other supporting mods, but damn, that's more torque than my girlfriend's camaro.

cygnus x-1
02-10-2007, 08:52 AM
Messy, where is that thread about the stroker kit? Tried searching over there and didn't find it.

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MessyHonda
02-10-2007, 10:40 AM
Messy, where is that thread about the stroker kit? Tried searching over there and didn't find it.

C|



its the paeco thread...i didnt have time to look for it over at prelude power

A20A1
02-13-2007, 08:21 PM
Didn't we conclude that the F22 was too long? or is this a different F22.

Estimated Prophet
03-11-2007, 06:22 AM
junk yard Parts Fitting FTW!

QFT :chainsaw:

hondaman1986
03-11-2007, 11:14 AM
well havent had time to go to the yard. i origanaly thought of this for a rock crawler in a samari and it didnt need to rev high just for tourqe. any way i try to get to the yard soon

2drSE-i
03-24-2007, 08:25 PM
WHY A STROKER? Increasing the displacement of an engine is a sure and reliable way of obtaining a power boost. This is obtained by lengthening the stroke of the crankshaft, enlarging the bore size of the pistons, and raising the compression ratio of the pistons. Power boosts of 30 to 40% are achieved, and most of it is in the form of torque, which provides greater power and acceleration. A kit consists of:

1. Stroked Paecolloy crankshaft: The crankshaft is built to standard size journals with the hard nickel-chrome alloy and the stroke is increased to the appropriate length. The crank is then glasspeened to stress relieve it and balanced.

2. Stroker oversize pistons: Forged pistons are made with the wristpin hole located higher up in the piston to accommodate the longer stroke.

3.. Deves piston rings: The Deves rings provide better sealing power and less friction for more HP.

. Since these kits are made up on order, they can be furnished with any size stroke increase, and any size overbore and compression ratio pistons. The choice is yours, and stroker kits can be made up for any engine. The list shown on this page is only a small sample of the cars that we can furnish stroker kits for. The overbore and stroke increases are shown as a guideline. Stroker kits for most 4-cylinder engines will cost $1599.00, and those for most 6-cylinder engines will cost $1,999.00. These are exchange prices, and assume that you will be sending in your old crankshaft. If you don't send in your old crank, then add a core charge.


sounds like a BULLSHIT ebay listing to me. our cranks are hard as shit...anyone know if a nickel-chrome alloy would be better?

hondaman1986
03-24-2007, 08:27 PM
WHY A STROKER? Increasing the displacement of an engine is a sure and reliable way of obtaining a power boost. This is obtained by lengthening the stroke of the crankshaft, enlarging the bore size of the pistons, and raising the compression ratio of the pistons. Power boosts of 30 to 40% are achieved, and most of it is in the form of torque, which provides greater power and acceleration. A kit consists of:

1. Stroked Paecolloy crankshaft: The crankshaft is built to standard size journals with the hard nickel-chrome alloy and the stroke is increased to the appropriate length. The crank is then glasspeened to stress relieve it and balanced.

2. Stroker oversize pistons: Forged pistons are made with the wristpin hole located higher up in the piston to accommodate the longer stroke.

3.. Deves piston rings: The Deves rings provide better sealing power and less friction for more HP.

. Since these kits are made up on order, they can be furnished with any size stroke increase, and any size overbore and compression ratio pistons. The choice is yours, and stroker kits can be made up for any engine. The list shown on this page is only a small sample of the cars that we can furnish stroker kits for. The overbore and stroke increases are shown as a guideline. Stroker kits for most 4-cylinder engines will cost $1599.00, and those for most 6-cylinder engines will cost $1,999.00. These are exchange prices, and assume that you will be sending in your old crankshaft. If you don't send in your old crank, then add a core charge.


sounds like a BULLSHIT ebay listing to me. our cranks are hard as shit...anyone know if a nickel-chrome alloy would be better?


its bullshit for sure.
bore = more hp
stroke = more tourqe

AccordEpicenter
03-24-2007, 09:12 PM
honda cranks are forged balanced and nitrided with micropolishing. Thats hard to beat for a stock crank.

MessyHonda
03-24-2007, 11:01 PM
i want a balanced bottom end

hondaman1986
03-24-2007, 11:03 PM
i want a fully balleced ( and i know i cant spell) bottom end that can rev to 8000rpm reguarly but im dreaming

MessyHonda
03-24-2007, 11:09 PM
i want a fully balleced ( and i know i cant spell) bottom end that can rev to 8000rpm reguarly but im dreaming


on an A20 maybe....but not on a B20 or b18

hondaman1986
03-24-2007, 11:10 PM
a20 mabe what... 8000rpm?

MessyHonda
03-24-2007, 11:12 PM
a20 mabe what... 8000rpm?


its been done...i think jason bud had some videos and the tach was crazy.... he had like a turbo and nitrous

hondaman1986
03-24-2007, 11:12 PM
dang i would love to have 8000rpm for an n/a config.

i bet it would sound awesome with carbs and an open exhaust