Is this worth the price?

[hotdoghogie]

this clutch on ebay... is it worth it... should i go spend 250bones on a neam brand? is this name brand?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/83-85-ACCORD-83-87-PRELUDE-STAGE-1-RACING-CLUTCH-KIT_W0QQitemZ120079288248QQihZ002QQcategoryZ33730Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[MessyHonda]

thats alot of money.....for a no name brand clutch....

[hotdoghogie]

i want a stage one... anywhere i can get a good one for under 200$?

[forrest89sei]

Well since you looking at no-name stage one

this one is $86

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/86-89-HONDA-ACCORD-2-0-L-NEW-STAGE-1-CLUTCH-KIT_W0QQitemZ160041343180QQcmdZViewItem

[hotdoghogie]

hmmm i thought grip force was name brand?

[hotdoghogie]

nvm

[snoopyloopy]

how many mods do you have? i'm going to go out on a limb and say that for 80% of the people on this forum, a stage 1 clutch is more than enough for them. and for <$100, it looks like a good deal. might as well grab it while they have a whole bunch.

[frantik]

on the gripforce website they're selling a gripforce oem replacement for $105 with free shipping.. but the gripforce ebay seller is selling a gripforce stage 1 for $104? and there is no stage 1 clutch on the website... seems fishy to me. anybody have one of these clutches? the gripforce website sells the exedy oem for $10 more than the gripforce one

what does stage 1 even mean?

[shepherd79]

be careful with ebay. ebay is flooded with fake Chinese parts. they are cheap and fall apart all the time.
fine a nice dealer and order from them. stage 1 should be more than enough for you at this moment.

[bullard123]

on the gripforce website they're selling a gripforce oem replacement for $105 with free shipping.. but the gripforce ebay seller is selling a gripforce stage 1 for $104? and there is no stage 1 clutch on the website... seems fishy to me. anybody have one of these clutches? the gripforce website sells the exedy oem for $10 more than the gripforce one

what does stage 1 even mean?

I think stage 1 refers to the level of horsepower range the clutch can handle. Our stock clutch can't handle too much horsepower so you wil have to upgrade to a better clutch. Im looking into getting one of these myself.

[hotdoghogie]

i am more worried about cheap parts/ fake su know... but considering they have a whole ebay store ana make clutches for 300zx for like 300$ and they just seem kinda like they arnt so cheep...

beside the cast iron pressure plate... i think thats what drops the price

[Bglad420]

be careful with ebay. ebay is flooded with fake Chinese parts. they are cheap and fall apart all the time.
fine a nice dealer and order from them. stage 1 should be more than enough for you at this moment.


That eclutchmaster is a good guy to buy from I bought my exedy from him, as well as my buddy, we haven't had any probs with him, I would vouch for that guy.

[87lxiaccord]

i would just buy a stock replacement exedy i got mine for like $100 shipped and it's not fake

[cygnus x-1]

If you want an aftermarket clutch get one from clutchnet.com. Not the cheapest around but the quality is excellent. I have a red level (stage 3) clutch plate with an organic sprung hub disk. It grips like hell but is still easy to feather.

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[MessyHonda]

yeah i heard the excedy one is not bad. but its still OEM replacement.

[hotdoghogie]

If you want an aftermarket clutch get one from clutchnet.com. Not the cheapest around but the quality is excellent. I have a red level (stage 3) clutch plate with an organic sprung hub disk. It grips like hell but is still easy to feather.

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dude those flywheels are a good price... do they make a big dif in how fast it revs and slows down... cuz it takes a while for our engines to slow down

[MessyHonda]

i want a 15 pound flywheel. i got to email the guy

[hotdoghogie]

how much r our flywheels stock?

[MessyHonda]

how much r our flywheels stock?
23 pounds...

[hotdoghogie]

holy fuck... the one on that site is 12lbs... is their any way u can mod the stock one to lighten it up a bit?

[MessyHonda]

yeah 12 pounds...is good....but only if you drag race...ive seen some down to 8 pounds..


the stock one can be shaved to 15.9 pounds i believe...

[hotdoghogie]

how do u do this... do u have to balance them?... and how?

i hate how long it takes to rev down

[MessyHonda]

how do u do this... do u have to balance them?... and how?
i hate how long it takes to rev down



dude check out this link (http://www.3geez.com/forum/search.php)

[hotdoghogie]

kewl thnx...

but ya im getting that clutch... they always have them

[MessyHonda]

lol....wut clutch? the stage one JDM yo

[hotdoghogie]

lol....wut clutch? the stage one JDM yo

read the very first reply/post

[MessyHonda]

screw that...once i post i never look back

[halxi]

find an exedy/daikin clutch.

they usually retail for about $89-$109 for the clutch kit for our cars (disc, flywheel, pilot bearing, throw out bearing, and alignment tool is included in the kit)

and IMO theyre the best replacement clutch for our cars.

[cygnus x-1]

how do u do this... do u have to balance them?... and how?
i hate how long it takes to rev down

The reving down thing might not be just the flywheel. It may be built into the emissions controls or some such thing. I remember reading it in my Prelude shop manual; something about improving driveability. I would have to look it up again.

Anyway, the stock flywheels are heavy. I had mine lightened by the machine shop that also did my block and head. They cut the entire flange off the back side of the flywheel; along with the timing marks. DOH! I had another plate to compare to so I just scratched in some new marks. I never weighed it so I don't know how much difference it made, but I expect it was significant. If you have this done make sure to have it balanced as well.

FWIW, I have no problems with driveability, even with a majorly stiff pressure plate. In fact it seems more stall resistant now then ever before, but that's probably more due to the engine rebuild.

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[hotdoghogie]

o realy... i think i will leave it stock... i hear it wears out faster if it aluminun or machined...

how would i get my car to rev up fast and down faster... al these other cars rev like indie cars... ares is just so slow like down syndrome cars...

my friends 300zx has a stiff ass cltuch i never get close to stalling it

[hotdoghogie]

screw that...once i post i never look back

i dont get it?

[MessyHonda]

i dont get it?




dont worry about it then

[hotdoghogie]

dont worry about it then

man u crazy rebels who live for the moment... u guys scare me somtimes...

kinda like a new age jesse james

[MessyHonda]

man u crazy rebels who live for the moment... u guys scare me somtimes...
kinda like a new age jesse james



lol Messy jesse james....word.....i like that....

[hotdoghogie]

messy james

[MessyHonda]

dennis the menace

[hotdoghogie]

howd u figure out my name... ?

[frantik]

^ messy's a ninja..

[MessyHonda]

^ messy's a ninja..


ok mr fitz

[cygnus x-1]

o realy... i think i will leave it stock... i hear it wears out faster if it aluminun or machined...
how would i get my car to rev up fast and down faster... al these other cars rev like indie cars... ares is just so slow like down syndrome cars...
my friends 300zx has a stiff ass cltuch i never get close to stalling it

Eh? I can see an aluminum flywheel wearing out faster but a lightened stock one? I don't see how.

Do you have a carb or EFI? If a carb try unplugging the vacuum dashpot that holds the throttle plates open. Make sure you plug the line before trying to start it up. See if that helps any.

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[rjudgey]

Teh aluminum ones don't wear out they last longer as the pressure plate surface is made from wear resistant steel, and is replacemeable if need be from the manufactureer you buy it from. Just get everything from clutchnet i use there kit and i was the first person to get there kit and make everyone buy from them because there so good, yeah there not the cheapest but damn they ain't the most expensive but the quality is ten times better than anyone on the market and i know because i've broken every clutch made for our car. The ally flywheel is a good mod really helps the revs and the engine braking is phenominal when driving norma you hardly every need to touch the brakes, it's one of those mods that you just have to get use to once you have it ain't a problem. I have a lightened stock one as well but lighteneing them significantly reduces strength and with a lot of drag racing they eventually get micro fractures that start breking the fly wheel up which can cause quite a mess if it suddenly lets go. If your just going to drive like a old granny and never give it some and never mod the engine than spend $100 or less on clutch and just skim the flywheel, if not buy from clutchnet and even if you tear the arse of the car it won't be the clutch that brakes it will be your gearbox or engine!!!!

[2oodoor]

be careful with ebay. ebay is flooded with fake Chinese parts. they are cheap and fall apart all the time.
fine a nice dealer and order from them. stage 1 should be more than enough for you at this moment.
OEM parts ftw

[MessyHonda]

OEM parts ftw



no name brand aftermarket ftw.

[hotdoghogie]

hmmm... dont wanna get the clutch put in then have to rip it apart agian and do the flywheel u know...

i dunno man its like 500$ for a clutch and flywheels kit

[MessyHonda]

hmmm... dont wanna get the clutch put in then have to rip it apart agian and do the flywheel u know...
i dunno man its like 500$ for a clutch and flywheels kit


speed cost money

[hotdoghogie]

i know... u gotta worrie bout tickets to maing

[MessyHonda]

i know... u gotta worrie bout tickets to maing


not if you take your car to the srip

[cygnus x-1]

hmmm... dont wanna get the clutch put in then have to rip it apart agian and do the flywheel u know...
i dunno man its like 500$ for a clutch and flywheels kit

Stage 1 (green) pressure plate from Clutchnet $85
Organic sprung clutch disk from Clutchnet $90
Resurfaced/lightened flywheel from local shop $100

Add some for shipping and you have a good solid clutch and flywheel for $300 that will hold up to some abuse. Another $100 and you can get a stage 2 or 3 pressure plate for more grip. Or if you're mostly staying stock just get an OEM replacement and put the money elsewhere.

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[hotdoghogie]

ugh i need a clutch soon... i think i might get a stage 1 from clutch net but dont u need a new throwout bearing...?

[MessyHonda]

ugh i need a clutch soon... i think i might get a stage 1 from clutch net but dont u need a new throwout bearing...?


yeah its cheap to replace it while the tranny is all apart

[hotdoghogie]

ugh... taxes turned out to be only 185... shit... so ya i think a egay stage 3 will have to do

[MessyHonda]

rofl...mine is going to be like 50 bucks i bet...lol i only worked 12 weeks this year

[hotdoghogie]

lol... dang son... i ment 285...lol

can u feel the diff in a stage 1 clutch? i was looking at an act stage 1 on egay 239 bones

[snoopyloopy]

you may feel a little better hold. could that be because it's a new clutch or because it actually holds better than stock, we may never know.

[hotdoghogie]

damn clutches cost too damn much!

[MessyHonda]

yeah stage 1 should be better than stock.

[halxi]

ugh... taxes turned out to be only 185... shit... so ya i think a egay stage 3 will have to do

please
PLEASE
PLEASE!!!
do not cheap out on your clutch.
You can get an exedy/daikin clutch for $100

HOW is that too exspensive?

I know youre not turbo, so you dont need a stage 3. Get the Exedy OEM Replacement, you'll be much happier in a year when your clutch actually still grabs.

[hotdoghogie]

ok i am gonna be getting like 170hp after i do my head work, intake manifold, cams and header, high flow cat...

i need at least a stage 1

[snoopyloopy]

eh, when do you realistically see all that work being done? and are you going to be converting to obd-1? because i think the general wisdom was about 150 is the max you can get out of the a20a3 without obd-1. and are you talking crank or wheel hp? bc the openloop accord isn't even breaking 170 at the wheels and we've all see that mod list. so if your clutch is going out and you don't want to shell out big bux for an upgraded one right now, don't if your car isn't going to be pushing that much more power any time soon.

[halxi]

ok i am gonna be getting like 170hp after i do my head work, intake manifold, cams and header, high flow cat...
i need at least a stage 1

friend has 220 to the wheels on a supercharged k20, with an exedy oem organic plate clutch... no slipping.

Educate yourself, and save yourself the time. Dont be ignorant and go "oh... no name stage 3 for $150 or brand name oem replacement for $150"

Ive heard more horror stories from those no name clutches then ive ever heard about any factory clutch.

The fact is, an OEM Exedy Organic Plate Clutch will hold FINE for 170crank, or wheel hp...

[MessyHonda]

ok i am gonna be getting like 170hp after i do my head work, intake manifold, cams and header, high flow cat...
i need at least a stage 1


you would be lucky to get 130cranck HP...lol

[snoopyloopy]

you would be lucky to get 130cranck HP...lol
no, if the push 120 from the factory, another 10 shouldn't be THAT hard. especially w/ all that he mentioned he's going for. but what he should add on there is fuel management stuff. because if he's flowing more air, he'll need more fuel to go w/ it.

[rjudgey]

Clutchnet clutchnet clutchnet clutchnet oh i think you should maybe get clutchnet!!

If you were in U.K. i'd say get Borg and Beck kit which comes with AP pressure plate thats nearly as good as clutchnet and then get the disk from Nippon thats a good combo was chucking 200bhp through that without a hitch before going clutchnet but that combo which does give you two sets of clutches even at trade price came to $200 for both kits to mix and match. ( i get spares at trade and the $ is converted from pounds, but you guy's pay less for stuff anyways)

[MessyHonda]

no, if the push 120 from the factory, another 10 shouldn't be THAT hard. especially w/ all that he mentioned he's going for. but what he should add on there is fuel management stuff. because if he's flowing more air, he'll need more fuel to go w/ it.



yeah that was when the engine had like 10 miles....not a 150k+ engine



like i said.....130 crank...with all thoes mods...look at abes car...he only pulled 107whp....107x1.15=123crank hp

[hotdoghogie]

ummm im going all out with my car... i dunno bout u guys on a budget...

most of all my paychecks go to my car... actually i have almsot no bills so ya..

taxes just came in =]

i know bout fuel managment and obd1... i live with a honda michanic if u didnt know and im taking airnotics mechanics at a trade school...

i figured u all knew what went with all that...

i got it covered i will be getting around 170 hp at the CRANK!

im part of the import scene around here i have hook ups... im not into sleeper either... i know what our engines capable of

[Civic Accord Honda]

this clutch on ebay... is it worth it... should i go spend 250bones on a neam brand? is this name brand?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/83-85-ACCORD-83-87-PRELUDE-STAGE-1-RACING-CLUTCH-KIT_W0QQitemZ120079288248QQihZ002QQcategoryZ33730Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

thats alot my stage 2 clutch cost about 250 i dont know the name tho but it was way worth it

[MessyHonda]

ummm im going all out with my car... i dunno bout u guys on a budget...
most of all my paychecks go to my car... actually i have almsot no bills so ya..
taxes just came in =]
i know bout fuel managment and obd1... i live with a honda michanic if u didnt know and im taking airnotics mechanics at a trade school...
i figured u all knew what went with all that...
i got it covered i will be getting around 170 hp at the CRANK!
im part of the import scene around here i have hook ups... im not into sleeper either... i know what our engines capable of



you going to rebuild the whole engine right?

[halxi]

here

http://cgi.ebay.com/86-89-HONDA-ACCORD-CLUTCH-KIT-by-EXEDY-NIB_W0QQitemZ2513562942QQihZ003QQcategoryZ1271QQss PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

theres a reason no name clutches are cheap.

If all your money goes to your car, dont be a cheap-ass with what holdsa ll this power youre supposedly going to be making. I dont get how you want to spend all this money on a GOOD N/A build, and then cheap out on your clutch... oh wait? are you aware a GOOD n/a rebuild by a reputable shop will run $5000+?