fixing rust

[Civic Accord Honda]

i started fixing the rust about 3HR's ago not done yet but i need too know how to get the back bumper off i got the sides off but i cant get the sceews under the tail to come off oh and pics will come wehn i am done WOoT

[Civic Accord Honda]

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[MessyHonda]

download the manual

[Pico]

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This should be the same CAH

[Civic Accord Honda]

ok i am done for the day i got the left side and back donr all i have left to doo is the right side WOoT going to up load pics in a 5min's or so from my cam and my sisters

[lostforawhile]

so how did you fix it? those quick fixes often become quick fails later. I'm curious becaue I know how long it takes to properly repair rust. that piece under my tail lights had to be almost rebuilt from scratch on one side. filling them with bondo doesn't do anything but hide it and let it spread unseen.

[Civic Accord Honda]

so how did you fix it? those quick fixes often become quick fails later. I'm curious becaue I know how long it takes to properly repair rust. that piece under my tail lights had to be almost rebuilt from scratch on one side. filling them with bondo doesn't do anything but hide it and let it spread unseen.
i granded off the rust then bondoed then primer i dont know how or have the tools to weld yet but when i lern and get the tools i will put new qurreter panels on

[Civic Accord Honda]

ok almost done uploading the pics from my cam

[Civic Accord Honda]

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[Civic Accord Honda]

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[Civic Accord Honda]

the beter pics will be up in about 10min's

[jschatte]

i hope you know that sanding off rust then bondoing over it won't stop it from rusting, you would need to get new rear quarters

[lostforawhile]

you can get products from eastwood that will actually stop the rust,but they aren't cheap. now to use them you will have to sand out and knock out all that bondo down to bare meal. bondo isn't meant to be structural or fill gaps. if you can't weld the least you could do is glass those panels in from behind then fill properly. that will last for quite a while if you treat the rust properly. it's not a perfect solution,but a better one then what you are doing now.

[Civic Accord Honda]

you can get products from eastwood that will actually stop the rust,but they aren't cheap. now to use them you will have to sand out and knock out all that bondo down to bare meal. bondo isn't meant to be structural or fill gaps. if you can't weld the least you could do is glass those panels in from behind then fill properly. that will last for quite a while if you treat the rust properly. it's not a perfect solution,but a better one then what you are doing now.
yeah i plan on redoing but i dont have alot of money to spend $20 is what i got to fix the rust wich i allredy spet on bondo,primer,sand paper,and grinder i will do a beter job once we move i want to lern welding then i will replace the panels and re paint the whole car BLACK

[Civic Accord Honda]

look http://3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?p=735557#post735557

[MessyHonda]

yeah i would use fiberglass insted of bondo...cuz bondo is a sponge once water get to it the paint will start poping up.

[hotdoghogie]

im so glad someone posted a thread on this... i was gonna bondo it... should o fiberglass it then bondo over it of can u fiberglss it smooth?

[MessyHonda]

well...my dx was rear ended and it was pushed it into the car infront...so the guys that fixed it...drilled holes and pulled out the dent from the hood. then they covered it in bondo....primer and then paint....well as you knoe the hood gets very wet..and then water got in and cracked my paint....i had to grind it down to bare metal and use fiberglass...then i used bondo and primered it.

[lostforawhile]

what I meant was use fiberglass behind the hole in the body,for something for the filler to go on top of. you need something for structure. If it was me I would use metal,those holes can be fixed as long as you get all the rusted metal out. if the paint bubbles on top of filler after it was primed,thats something wrong with the paint application. good filler shouldn't absorb water. especially after it was primed. probably cheap primer. if anyone says they need to drill holes in your car body to pull dents,run!!! thats something from the dark ages of body work. any reputable shop will eithier use a stud welder,or use a slide hammer that welds to the body to pull the dents. the old method of drilling holes is still one of the nightmares of modern car restorers when they strip off paint. it does more damage in the long run then the original damage.

[Civic Accord Honda]

what I meant was use fiberglass behind the hole in the body,for something for the filler to go on top of. you need something for structure. If it was me I would use metal,those holes can be fixed as long as you get all the rusted metal out. if the paint bubbles on top of filler after it was primed,thats something wrong with the paint application. good filler shouldn't absorb water. especially after it was primed. probably cheap primer. if anyone says they need to drill holes in your car body to pull dents,run!!! thats something from the dark ages of body work. any reputable shop will eithier use a stud welder,or use a slide hammer that welds to the body to pull the dents. the old method of drilling holes is still one of the nightmares of modern car restorers when they strip off paint. it does more damage in the long run then the original damage.
yeah i was going to get the fiber glass bondo but i dont know how to use it yet and i have done bondo b-4

[MessyHonda]

fiberglass is like bondo....you use 36 grit to shape it and then 40 and 80 then you bondo and primer...