Steve_Si's foglight update thread

[Steve_Si]

Well I've started shifting the fog light parts from the donor car to my good 3G. The most important part is missing (no lights!) but it kinda makes sense to use all the donor's stuff anyway to make it easy when I find the fogs later on.
Here is the wiring I pulled out of the donor car. The one on the left is just a light bulb for the switch. On the left of the main one you can see the small fuse box and two plugs that go in to the loom near the in-cabin fuse box. The two top most plugs, which include piggy-back sockets plug in to the fuse box itself, although I piggy-backed one of them from something that was already plugged in. The right one is the plug for the switch.
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1576/p1010074sm5.jpg
Here you can see where most of them plug in, thanks Honda for making this easy :D
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6803/p1010075ba4.jpg
Wiring and fuses in place.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9750/p1010076es4.jpg
The switch (sorry for the poor quality, it focuses on the stupid floor mat)
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4829/p1010077tu3.jpg
The result so far, I have 12 volts at a plug near the battery when the switch is turned on. It also turns on the park lights
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3661/p1010078dy2.jpg
Tune in soon for the wiring to the lights and the brackets :) It was raining today so I couldn't be bothered pulling them out of the donor car.

[forrest89sei]

Looks Good Steve!

[carotman]

Look good. It seems that it uses connectors not present on USDM cars.
Those motorized fogs seem to be hard to come by :naughty:

[Steve_Si]

Yeah, all you really need is the switch and the bit of wiring that the switch plugs in too. Then I guess you'd have to run your own relay and wiring to the fogs. That would probably be better though, this factory system will keep the fogs on even if the main headlight switch is fully off. I prefer to be able to turn all my lights off with the headlight switch.

[MessyHonda]

looks nice....keep up the good work.

[Steve_Si]

Well today I pulled the bumper off the white 3G (thanks OD for telling me how, this is the first time I've ever removed a panel from a car) and removed the wiring and brackets for the fog lights, here you can see them and the bumper removed from the silver 3G, ready to fit.

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/9459/p1010079ii7.jpg

The brackets bolt on using two of the three bolts that hold the bumper supports on. I had to use new cable ties for the wiring cause i have a big metal plate blocking some of the holes that the OEM cable ties clip in too.

The fog lights actually have three wires running to them; 12 volts, a very low voltage signal cable (i think) and the ground wire.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7885/p1010082je7.jpg

So it's all ready to roll, just gotta find me some fogs!

[Steve_Si]

Found some fogs today :D They are from a Prelude but they still hook up the same.

First problem was I had hooked up the wiring wrong. These fogs have 2 12 volt lines going to them. One main one for the bulbs, and another one to activate the motors. I had hooked up the motors to the middle of the three plugs in the in-cabin fuse box, which happens to the aux power. The third one is power when lights are on, so once I hooked it up to this it was all good.

They still act a bit strange, they will open without the main lights being on. But they will not close unless at least the park lights are on. So if you turn the main lights off before turning off the fogs, the covers stay open.

I'll still keep an eye out for some accord fogs, hopefully I can just change the covers over.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6263/p1010097yz3.jpg
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8698/p1010098jd9.jpg
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2157/p1010099xk6.jpg

[A18A]

lucky!!!!!!!!

[frantik]

deeeeaaammmm sweet :bow:

[carotman]

Those are just awesome!

I can't wait to install mine. I just need brackets for them.

[frantik]

^ :bow:

[russiankid]

That is sweet.

[speedpenguin]

Wow those look really good!

[b20a86lude]

il take the lude ones when u find accords

[mkymonkey]

Found some fogs today :D They are from a Prelude but they still hook up the same.

First problem was I had hooked up the wiring wrong. These fogs have 2 12 volt lines going to them. One main one for the bulbs, and another one to activate the motors. I had hooked up the motors to the middle of the three plugs in the in-cabin fuse box, which happens to the aux power. The third one is power when lights are on, so once I hooked it up to this it was all good.

They still act a bit strange, they will open without the main lights being on. But they will not close unless at least the park lights are on. So if you turn the main lights off before turning off the fogs, the covers stay open.

I'll still keep an eye out for some accord fogs, hopefully I can just change the covers over.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6263/p1010097yz3.jpg
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8698/p1010098jd9.jpg
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2157/p1010099xk6.jpg

if you give me the right dimmensions, i can make you a sticker to go over the prelude and make it say accord or 3geez :D

[mkymonkey]

il take the lude ones when u find accords
i can help him make them accords :D....that is if he takes my offer lol

[Blkblurr]

I bought some Pilot brand fogs and converted them to LED. They are very bright and blue white in color. I used the Xlamp / cree superbright ones with lenses. I will post pics tomorrow. You can see the Pilot fogs in the pic in my signature.

[MessyHonda]

nice....they are nice.

[Hazwan]

thats cool!

can you make a video of the cover opens up?

[led_fut]

awesome

[Steve_Si]

Now with video goodness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dts1JH9126c

Edit: Hmmm that's kinda dark. I'll have another go outside during the day.

[Blkblurr]

As promised
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/2865/p3201438gd2.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p3201438gd2.jpg)http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3310/p3201439vp4.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p3201439vp4.jpg)http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/3464/p3201444vn0.th.jpg (http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p3201444vn0.jpg)http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7167/p3201445us1.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p3201445us1.jpg)

[mkymonkey]

Now with video goodness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG8c8pnUymI

Edit: Hmmm that's kinda dark. I'll have another go outside during the day.


thats fucking bad ass....looks like the pop up lights had kids! lol and have you considered my offer? :D

[Legend_master]

Now with video goodness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG8c8pnUymI
Edit: Hmmm that's kinda dark. I'll have another go outside during the day.


80's technology at it's best :lol: . That is just awsome.

[teck]

Now with video goodness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG8c8pnUymI
Edit: Hmmm that's kinda dark. I'll have another go outside during the day.
thats awsome

[MessyHonda]

Now with video goodness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG8c8pnUymI
Edit: Hmmm that's kinda dark. I'll have another go outside during the day.


looks good...you got to find another set.

[thegreatdane]

Charming :) You're lucky that the wiring was already prepared for fog lights.

[Steve_Si]

Cheers guys :)

mkymonkey I'm not sure what I want to put on them yet. I've removed the Prelude stickers and given the covers a fresh coat of black paint. I'll either leave them like they are, put badges on them or get you to make some stickers for them.

MessyHonda I can probably find more sets, these were at the first junk yard I visited and they said they probably had more. You guys should wait for Carotman to figure out how to wire his up then I can send some over.

thegreatdane yeah it was easy to do thanks to the wiring. Looks like JDM models already have 1/2 the wiring in them, the other 1/2 came from a car that actually had fogs. Without that I would have needed help.

I'll take another pic or two of the cleaned up lights, and another movie but I think I'll wait until the F1 Interior has been swapped and start a general update thread for it. Should be this weekend.

[Civic Accord Honda]

man thay are BADASS i want some

[carotman]

Hmm, I'll check how I wired mine for the test. It was pretty straightforward.

[carotman]

I'm trying to wire my fogs with the JDM wiring.

One of the plugs went directly in the fuse box, providing power when the switch is turned on. I seem to be missing a part of the wiring tough.

Is it supposed to come with a relay or something?

[2ndGenGuy]

Woah those are wicked. I'd put a set of those on the 2g for sure.

[Steve_Si]

I got it working with only the parts you can see in the pics, a loom with 3 fuses and the switch, and the bumper wiring. The rest was pre-installed from factory I guess. If there was a relay, it would have already been in the car.

[carotman]

I identified some of the components in your picture to the best of my knowledge

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1860/fogwiringqw0.th.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fogwiringqw0.jpg)

I got the wiring from the later (88-89) cars so I'm missing the yellow/green wire for the retractor.

Here's a diagram I made of the currect wiring I have:

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/4945/fogdiagramqx3.th.jpg (http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fogdiagramqx3.jpg)

In the Enginebay wiring, all I have is the blue/red wire that goes to both foglights. I'm wondering what the other circuit the switch controls. (the Red/Yellow and Red/Green)

Could it be for the rear fogs?

Also, the white wire comming from the fusebox has a constant 12V comming from it.

[carotman]

I think the other circuit (red/yellow and red/green) controls the relay through the low beam circuit. The switch turns both circuits on or off so if the relay fails, the regular lights will still work.

Any thoughts?

[A18A]

the other circuit probably turns the park lights on&off

[Steve_Si]

Lucky I still have the fogs! No 3g though lol

I think the white wire is supposed to have permenant 12v. It's power to the fogs and they work when the car is off.

The other circuit certainly has something to do with turning on the park lights.

The connectiors with the ? beside them are just the 12v input for the retractor. Another one can piggy back off it, that's why there are 2 connectors. It can plug in to 3 different places in the fuse box, the difference being perm. power, acc power, power when lights are on etc. If you look at my second picture, that connector you can see right in the middle is actually the same, and at first I piggy-backed off that. That turned out to be accessory power, and I couldn't close the fogs after stopping the car :P So I moved it to another spot

[carotman]

I'll try to make sure there's a relay (or not) before wiring them. I don't want to fry anything in the car! The wire colors do match the lighting system on the car tough.

Anyone with a JDM Accord can check this for me? The car is pre-wired so it doesn't even need to have the fogs installed.

[A18A]

well when i turn them on/off i hear no rely click at all

[carotman]

hmmm can you trace the red wires for me? :D

I really want to hook them up like it was at the JDM factory

[carotman]

So?

Anyone? :D

[carotman]

I guess I'll just find a way to unstall a relay then. I don't want to fry the wiring in my car.

[AccordB20A]

i installed a relay coming straight from the battery for my fogs. matt i dunno if your car has a relay it runs from the fusebox to a couple of fuses the switch and then the lights. i cant remember if there is a fuse for each light

i never found a relay when my OEM facelift fogs were removed from my car when i did the "strip down and rebuild" But then again when i got the car they didnt go. but i think the bulbs were both fucked, i didnt take any notice on the wiring either. but it does have that little plug with two wires like steve showed us ages ago, when i installed mine, i got the under-dash harness plugged it into that single spade connector on the fuse box that gave it a constant 12v it went to a switch and a plug thats on the cars wiring loom with three wires, one going to the parklights and the other two going to the engine bay plug. I think i have a OEM dash foglight loom spare that has fuses on it i should go check it out

[mykwikcoupe]

when you do the new video I want to see them open and close. It looks major pimp because they open the same speed. I want to see if they close the same pace also. If you find a complete set with wiring and all post it on ebay I want to bid it up high

[AccordB20A]

when you do the new video I want to see them open and close. It looks major pimp because they open the same speed. I want to see if they close the same pace also. If you find a complete set with wiring and all post it on ebay I want to bid it up high

i think steve still has his folding fogs if you ask nicely he might want 50us for them. they aint mint but they work i think

[b20a86lude]

hey steve i was wondering if u could get me a couple of jdm things

[carotman]

So, where does that 3-pin connector goes to?

[AccordB20A]

the 3 pin connector for the fog lights is under the dash by the fuse box on my car and comes out at the front of the car down between the battery and headlight. by its a two wire plug when it comes out, the 3rd wire uner the dash is for the park lights i believe.
that the 3 wires you mean?

[carotman]

Yup, that's those 3 wires.

I wonder where they go exactly inside the car. Does the 2 wires go directly in the enginebay or do they go somewhere 1st?

[Dodge Aries K]

Power foglights... that's amazing.

Did the USDM cars ever have fog lights on them at all?

[MessyHonda]

Power foglights... that's amazing.

Did the USDM cars ever have fog lights on them at all?



yeah they did but they were a dealer option. at the junkyard i only seen like 2-3 but most of them have busted lights but you can still take the fog light swtich...it goes on the slot right next to the cruise control swtich

[AccordB20A]

Yup, that's those 3 wires.

I wonder where they go exactly inside the car. Does the 2 wires go directly in the enginebay or do they go somewhere 1st?+

directly to the engine bay. as they have no need to go anywhere else:) and its the same on a prelude and i just completed a stripdown of all unneccessary wires on a preldue and thats where they went, no joints or anything

[carotman]

Ok, so there's no relay or anything I guess

I just need to bring the blue/red wire up front and that's it. I'll wire the other 2 to the parking light switch in case I forget the fog switch in the ON position. This way the light reminder will chime

Thanks a thousand

[mykwikcoupe]

did you ever get this figured out carotman? I got steves set in the mail yesterday and am eager to figure it out. Im not so concerned with jdm factory as you are. Id be more inclined to piggyback the headlight switch so the fogs act like the headlights with the foglight switch acting as a main power on/off switch but controlled by the headlights

[86ccord]

hmm i kind of wish they were tucked into the bumper..but eh.. idk..

[mykwikcoupe]

well I havent tried to fit anything yet but it appears the barckets use existing mounts that the bumper uses also. If this is the case, I should be able to fab something up bringing the brackets further into the bumper cavity. Ill use the stock bracket as a template only so they are still stock if it doesnt work or I decide to change it later. I just like the look of the power cover on the foglights. I wish I could find a clear lense for them though.

[A18A]

what I think would be cool is if you wire them to flip open with the head lights so when you open the headlights they all open at once

[Civic Accord Honda]

what I Think Would Be Cool Is If You Wire Them To Flip Open With The Head Lights So When You Open The Headlights They All Open At Oncex2

[mykwikcoupe]

isnt that what I siad. I would use the switch as a master foglight on/off but it would be powered from the headlights so they all open and close at the same time?

[A18A]

i must have misread your other post, i thought you just wanted them to light up with the head lights

[AccordB20A]

Clear lenses arent JDM lol and yellow light>white light when it comes to seeing in the dark.
Im sure you should be able to sort out that wiring

[A18A]

i prefer white lights in the dark, and yellow lights in the fog :)

[86ccord]

i prefer white lights in the dark, and yellow lights in the fog :)

what they said.

[MessyHonda]

it would be cool but i would still like a master switch so i can close the fog lights when i want...dont want to get them pitted with rocks.

[2ndGenGuy]

Bumping this old-ass thread from the dead... But does anybody here happen to still have these wiring diagrams? I've got a set of power fogs I'm trying to install, but I have no harness or switch. All I have is 6 short wires coming out of the fog light housing.

[Oldblueaccord]

Dont know anything about the wiring but those things are just so damn cool!

[Jinnai]

Since y'all already bumped it... yeah, they are really, really cool! I've only got the dealer fog lights, so they don't retract. For the record, they're Bosch 1473A, same as is used in some BMWs and Volvos.