incresed oil pressure

[custom]

a while ago someone posted a thread on how to increase the oil pressure. does anyone recall on what steps should be taken?

[shepherd79]

make sure you get perfromance oil pump. bumping up oil pressure with stock worn out oil pump won't do any good.

[custom]

where can i find a performance oil pump? do manufactures make them for 3g accords?

[MessyHonda]

i believe Toga makes a high performance oil pump for our engine...also do you have a oil pressure gauge?

[BITESIZE]

What's the point in increasing oil pressure? Are you talking about increasing the good stock pressure?

[A20A1]

Sean told me how and I posted it in the how to.

[reanimator420]

where in the hell are all these nc-ers coming from!!! do i see a meet in formation!!

[custom]

well really what i'm looking for is a high volume oil pump. i'll ask the honda specialist if its posible to find one. i need to repplace the oil pan gasket and the oil pump is leaking a little also. the reason i was wanting more pressure or more volume really is because for some reason every engine i blow, the rod bearings are fucking up in all of them that causes it. i keep frequent oil changes. and at times would use lucas oil products the engine restorer 6-8 cylinder can. the engine i have in their now has 160K miles runs fine. i just need to finish porting the head.
* i do have an oil pressure gauge.

[shepherd79]

i used to use all them oil additives and i that how my old engine started to smoke. I never used on my new engine and it runs great.
if you are at the point where you need to use those oil additives, you need a new engine to start with.
get a rebuild engine and you should be fine.

[cygnus x-1]

Toga makes a high volume oil pump. I have one. You will have serious oil pressure with this thing. Part # OPH15L-HV. Get it here:

http://www.importperformanceparts.net/

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[lostforawhile]

thats a link for a high performance oil filter,not a pump,that is really nice though. they don't list the accord,but they list the 2.0 lude,which is the same filter.

[lostforawhile]

here it is http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/toga_oilpumpshonda.html
what kind of pressure are you running? I average 20 psi at low idle,45-50 at cruise,and 80 psi at hight rpms. not too bad for a 300000 mile engine. I like the high volume for my oil cooler application

[cygnus x-1]

here it is http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/toga_oilpumpshonda.html
what kind of pressure are you running? I average 20 psi at low idle,45-50 at cruise,and 80 psi at hight rpms. not too bad for a 300000 mile engine. I like the high volume for my oil cooler application

:huh: Not sure how you go to an oil filter from my link above but anyway...

I get about the same pressure on a freshly built A20. It's kinda scary when you start it up cold and the pressure shoots way up. It's gonna blow! :eek:
Oh wait, no it's not.

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[88Accord-DX]

Adding extra washer behind the hex nut that holds in the pressure relief valve spring. I have one if you want it.

I get 60 psi at idle & 80 psi cruising at any speed after my rebuild. Nothing high performance here, just good tight tolerances.

[custom]

that oil pum is high but worht it
1. correct me if i'm wrong but high volume oil pumps help keep the bearing alot cleaner so what is the purpose of higher oil pressure?
2. in the article i didn't see anything about the psi gains from adding different thicker washers to the stock oil pump and could it be unsafe doing such with a stock oil pump?

[lostforawhile]

:huh: Not sure how you go to an oil filter from my link above but anyway...
I get about the same pressure on a freshly built A20. It's kinda scary when you start it up cold and the pressure shoots way up. It's gonna blow! :eek:
Oh wait, no it's not.
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the first link went to a performance oil filter,I found the correct link for the pump and posted it in my reply. thats not a bad price at all. you don't want too much oil pressure because it washes out the bearings, the bearings are designed to allow small pieces of debris to embed themselves just below the bearing surface so as not to scratch the crank journals,too much pressure can force this debris back out of the bearing leaving voids in the surface over time,it also can potentially damage seals that weren't designed to operate at those pressures. you want volume not pressure. some new american engines operate at a rediculous 20 psi oil pressure at cruise,but the pumps have a huge amount of volume. as far as stock pressure,the warning light sender is designed to come on at between 3-5 psi. my book says that in a high milage engine,a flickering oil pressure light at tickover(idle) is not nescsarily a cause for concern. but sudden loss at hign speed is much more serious. so even a few psi at idle doesn't mean the engine is gonna blow up,as long as it has enough at higher rpms. In my case 20psi at idle is well within specs. thats with the engine warmed up too. with a cold engine it runs between 50-60 psi. thats pump they have can opearte at a higher volume because it's tighter tolerances in the pump,therefor less oil leaks by the rotors in the pump. I wouldn't mind getting one if the pressure isn't too high,it seems like it's well made. melling also makes a replacment pump for our cars,and of course they are famous for the quality of thier pumps. thats what I run now.

[cygnus x-1]

Oh, I see. My link is just to their home page which happens to have an oil filter advertisment.

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[88Accord-DX]

that oil pum is high but worht it
1. correct me if i'm wrong but high volume oil pumps help keep the bearing alot cleaner so what is the purpose of higher oil pressure?
Well, too much oil pressure is just as bad as to little oil pressure. Too much pressure can blow out the oil filter gasket or oil gallery plugs in the block. Too little oil pressure is mainly caused from excessive rod & main bearing clearances. All engines eventually loose some oil pressure from wear on the oil pump & bearings. I'd be carefull putting a high performance oil pump on a high milage engine, there is a small chance of spinning a crankshaft bearing.

2. in the article i didn't see anything about the psi gains from adding different thicker washers to the stock oil pump and could it be unsafe doing such with a stock oil pump? You can either stretched the pressure releif valve spring or add a washer on the hex nut. Here is link that explains the purpose of that modification. http://wahiduddin.net/race/shim.htm

[AccordEpicenter]

toga makes a high volume oil pump for A20s. Thats Toga, not toda

[custom]

that article on the oil pump and circulation will be really useful later on. but i talked to my dad about the psi and volume and he gave me th e same info as far as the bearing and damaging them.
1. the rod bearing damage brings up a major issue i had in the pass 5+ engines. Why do i continue to damage rod bearings? i keep oil in the engine regular oil chaanges and use the best oil. i do race my car but barely rev pass 6100.

[cygnus x-1]

What kind of damage? Spun? Scored? Were they all used with the same crank? With the same rods? Are the thrust bearings ok?

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[custom]

no they were different engines but one engin i took apart and the #1 piston rod bearing was completely gone