88 Accord Engine rebuild and much more!

[tuxdreamerx]

Hello all I might as well introduce myself, My name is Josh I own a 1988 Honda accord lX w/ carb, I have owned it for over a year and whoever I baught it from decided to bypass the Cooling fans and I over heated the thing :rant: so it still ran ok (or so I thought) and I was driving and downshifted into second at 55 MPH (not smart) anyways the car died I started it back up it died again and wouldnt start back up, long story short I took it to a shop and they told me I just broke my timing belt and it could be replaced by the next day (Smart me didnt know that when 3geezs break belts it also bends valves) so I said go ahead and do it, well got 3 minutes down the road from the shop and it happened again took it back, the belt broke again!, turns out I had a melted camshaft :wtf: so had the head rebuilt and about 3000 miles of drive it started smoking horibbly (Bottom end Fried! :gun: ) so I got a nissian maxima 93 nice car really was until started misfiring after only driving it 4000 miles, fuel injectors fried... Replaced them without replacing o rings, about 3 days later it burned up :rant: F***, but I still had the 3geez so now it is undergoing engine rebuild and much more.. will post pics next

[Estimated Prophet]

Wow, good luck to you sir.

[guaynabo89]

pics?????

[tuxdreamerx]

Here is the cause of all the smoke and all the oil everywhere prepare for amazment!


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somehow it was still driving lol, Horribly though I was afraid to get a ticket so I parked it

[tuxdreamerx]

Oh and my bearings and crank werent in the greatest shape so I replaced em all

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Sorry no pics of the new one I forgot to take some but it is nice!,

[88Accord-DX]

You said it bent the valves after the timing belt broke right? Good luck with the rebuild.

[tuxdreamerx]

yeah but the head on it now is a rebuild with less than 5000 miles on it, and so far the rebuild is going good, its my first rebuild and I made the mistake of putting all bolts in nuts in one container so thats really a hassle:rant:

[tuxdreamerx]

Nice shiny block that a local vocational school machined for 20 bucks! :rockon:

PS this is a a20a1


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[tuxdreamerx]

Pistons bored .050 over new pistons and rings and pins, sorry no pics I forgot these too.

Painted engine parts Blue

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Also new water pump and oil pump. ill post pics of the old water pump it was fried!

[tuxdreamerx]

Old clutch Trashed! so I got a new kit! :rockon:



New Clutch throwout bearing and cluth pressure plate

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[tuxdreamerx]

Got angel eye headlight conversion for my 3geez

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[tuxdreamerx]

More engine shots as of today

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[tuxdreamerx]

Here is a pic of the rear, I modified my honda H into a bihazard logo! lol, and I have a 3a racing double pipe muffler, along with brand new exaust pipes

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tuxdreamerx/IMG_0228-1.jpg

New Flex pipe and all

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[tuxdreamerx]

Clean Engine bay!

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tuxdreamerx/IMG_0239.jpg

Also Blue windshield wiper arms

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tuxdreamerx/IMG_0237-1.jpg

Ground Wire kit, Gold plated connectors and 4 gauge wire

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My alarm system that I just installed last night (took about 4 hours) And it works great but omg this car is hard to install them in.

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[tuxdreamerx]

I painted my hood black with some type of metal flakes in it it looks good and I think it will look great on that gold car

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My neon setup

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interior green and exterior blue

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Interior shot, messy..
Pilot steering wheel, titanium shift knob, green interior, 250watt ac adapter mounted under dash (Center)
Pyle head unit (dont worry rest of the system will be displayed soon lol)

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[tuxdreamerx]

Found a pic of my old clutch

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Sound system

pyramid 2 channel 1200 watt amp, 1.5 farad capacitor, two alpine type s 12's 1200watt max rms

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Window Tint

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[tuxdreamerx]

More pics to come but im done posting for the evening I have a ton more to show off. :rockon:

[Pico]

Sweet Job, hope your having lots of fun working on the engine I just finished my rebuild too.

[Chef Boyardee]

Good work done, I can appreciate a clean engine, but the paint and green interior accents are very cheesy.

[ZackieDarko]

come on now

ricer blue?

black fake looking CF hood?

you a ricer?

[A18A]

at least he knows what he's doing :) (engine wise)

[Vector]

come on now
ricer blue?
black fake looking CF hood?
you a ricer?

:rly:im surprised no one has siad anything about my hood.... and stfu if i just brought attention to myself...jk

good job on the engine and paint, i would have at least left the wipers alone

[MessyHonda]

nice...so it was just a stock rebuild.....that lil a20 should be puting thoes 1.5L civics down with ease....looks good...and props to you

[LiTtLe xOx BitT]

I like that your doing the work yourself, but that block looked clean as hell before you painted it, now it looks like a smurf. My opinion would be to not go for such a flashy look and just keep it nice and clean and mod the hell out of the motor and get weber. But if your into the flashy stuff and your looking for a bodykit let me know, i have one for sale.

[Vanilla Sky]

Why'd you go with such an aggressive bore? .050 is supposed to be the limit on these blocks. Did either your block or your head get decked during their rebuilds?

[mushroom_toy]

I like that your doing the work yourself, but that block looked clean as hell before you painted it, now it looks like a smurf. My opinion would be to not go for such a flashy look and just keep it nice and clean and mod the hell out of the motor and get weber. But if your into the flashy stuff and your looking for a bodykit let me know, i have one for sale.

X2

[Estimated Prophet]

Why'd you go with such an aggressive bore? .050 is supposed to be the limit on these blocks. Did either your block or your head get decked during their rebuilds?


^^ I was waiting for someone to ask that.

[MessyHonda]

wow just saw you went .050 over....man....i thought you had to sleave the block with that much...anyways now you have a A21...hehe

[Pico]

I didnt notice that .050 was the bore you had it at,thats alot to bore out, did you do that by choice or was it necessary because of the condition of the block?

[Vanilla Sky]

I'm also wondering if a stock carb will run that well. I know I'd be investing in a Weber myself.

[Chef Boyardee]

come on now
ricer blue?
black fake looking CF hood?
you a ricer?

At least I'm not the only one thinking that haha.

[tuxdreamerx]

Wow I got a lot of replies. Yes my colors are very cheesy I have been :Owned: but personally I like it so I guess thats what matters. and on the bore sizes everyone I talked to said that was just fine, I got a really good deal on the pistons and rings only cost me 15 bucks, and yes my block was pretty messed up, and thats the first I have heard about it being bad. every mechanic I talked to said it would be fine.

and I have a kid on the way so the hood is a cheap paint but again I like it.

and I painted the block because it started to build up rust and it started looking bad.

And honestly guys this is my first engine rebuild so I probably will do some things not so good but I have to learn somehow.

I would love to put a webber carb on it but im low on funds at the moment I just really need this thing up and running.

But anyways I am in the process on getting those stupid vaccum lines hooked up :banghead: My manual is OK with the diagram but very hard to follow. if anyone knows of a good resource on all the vaccum lines let me know, its really the only problem im gonna have, any help would be great.

[tuxdreamerx]

oh and any pics that you guys could post of your 3geez that are carbed would be a awsome help, just really need pics of the intake manifold around the carb and all that so if anyone has a engine that has just been finished with the carb on it but you havnt put it in if you could take some good detail pics of that area (if your vaccum lines are hooked up already) Would be awsome! :)

[Estimated Prophet]

...I like it so I guess thats what matters....

Can't argue with that, keep on truckin.

We have a carbed 3g on the yard that we sold the carb off of, I'll see if I can get some pics for you tomorrow if no one else comes through.

[tuxdreamerx]

that would be great. once I finish the vaccum up ill be ready to drop it back in.

[Chef Boyardee]

Wow I got a lot of replies. Yes my colors are very cheesy I have been :Owned: but personally I like it so I guess thats what matters.

Great state of mind to be in when posting on a public forum. If it makes you happy, more power to you. Good luck with your build, you seem to be doing fine so far.

[tuxdreamerx]

I think I made a mistake can anyone tell me lol :banghead:

ok to the left were the freezeplug is I put one behind the water pump and I think a tube was supposed to go there not a plug, I can just take it out and fix it but I wanna make sure I f'ed up.

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I do believe this tube goes there

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[tuxdreamerx]

and also was I supposed to put a freeze plug where that lower one is it was smaller than the rest and the only one that size. does anyone have a diagram of where the freezeplugs go so I can double check before I drop this thing in. (its an a20a1)

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[tuxdreamerx]

im an idiot I asked the question about the freeze plug behind the water pump too soon I looked at my service manual and that tube defentily goes there :banghead: f*** but I still would like to know about that small freeze plug since the only thing my manual doesnt tell me is where the freeze plugs go....

[russiankid]

I believe that small plug your talking about goes where you placed it. I remember reading Pico had a problem with that small one, and someone else talking about how they did not touch it because it did not come in the kit.

[Pico]

and also was I supposed to put a freeze plug where that lower one is it was smaller than the rest and the only one that size. does anyone have a diagram of where the freezeplugs go so I can double check before I drop this thing in. (its an a20a1)
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tuxdreamerx/IMG_0254.jpg
That lower small one is where the breather box goes into

[88Accord-DX]

Here you go with the vacuum diaghram.


http://www.3geez.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4487

[Pico]

Here's a pic of mine with the box in it's place
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/picopop/engineassembled2.jpg

[88Accord-DX]

Here is a couple pics of the vacuum lines, I don't have real close up pics of them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ddude2uc/A20A1enginetrannyboltedtogether.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ddude2uc/A20A1intakeintstalled.jpg

[tuxdreamerx]

Wow you guys are amazing.

Picopop:THANKYOU! you just saved me alot of headache I guess I will remove it and place the breather box there.

Russian kid: .......good guess. Thanks for trying

dddude2uc: i've seen the first pic its alright but I really appriciate the second one that one will help me with that part of it.

Keep the pics coming if you would like I can use any of them.

I keep loving 3geez more and more everyday!!

[88Accord-DX]

Here is a few more if they can help out. Them vaccum lines are pretty hard to get back right, but just take your time.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ddude2uc/A20A1finishedrebuild.jpg?t=1175830476


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ddude2uc/A20A1enginetotrannypic2.jpg?t=1175830613

[tuxdreamerx]

thank you wonderful pics!

They should really help me out alot.

I hate vaccum lines!

[tuxdreamerx]

Is this a really stupid idea for me??? or would I be better off doing this. now I know you remove cruise control and some ac stuff well I put that aftermarket steering wheel on and lost the cruise control switches and also cruise never worked. and my ac didnt work either

http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11067

[tuxdreamerx]

BuMp :-)

[mushroom_toy]

If it didn't work just leave the ac compressor off and you'll free up a little power. If you don't absolutely need power steering that can go too.

[tuxdreamerx]

Ok I just read the thread on removing the compressor. I think I will just leave mine off. does anyone know how to remove the hoses completely? my engine is already out so I just want to completely do away with it

[LX-incredible]

Ok I just read the thread on removing the compressor. I think I will just leave mine off. does anyone know how to remove the hoses completely? my engine is already out so I just want to completely do away with it
2 cresent wrenches and a 10mm.

[tuxdreamerx]

will there be noticible power increase?

[MessyHonda]

will there be noticible power increase?


from what picopop told me the hoses and stuff do weigh a bit....he removed them and his engine bay looks clean and clutter free. you will save around 40-50 pounds of stuff...and one less thing that can go wrong.....you would notice some performance gain...but nothing radical

[tuxdreamerx]

I disconnected my ac hoses and took the bracket back off my engine so I now will no longer have AC once I remove the fan off the radiator :) (Not like the AC worked anyways)

[Pico]

I disconnected my ac hoses and took the bracket back off my engine so I now will no longer have AC once I remove the fan off the radiator :) (Not like the AC worked anyways)
you're not removing both fans are you?
Because as fas as I know they will still both kick on

[tuxdreamerx]

no im only removing the one for the ac. and I know the ac one wont kick on unless the ac works because remeber someone decided to bypass them before I had the car and I had to rewire and test. but I was figuring it would sound like I was removing them both lol. but no only the one for AC

[tuxdreamerx]

Ok guys I have been reading vaccum removal for the past hour and a half and im prepared to do this mod since its really the only thing left before this is done... except for I cant figure out where a few things go but im working on that lol (They are just mounts nothing internal) and right now lets just say :bong: so im done for the night.. but ill post pics later tommrow.

[MessyHonda]

Ok guys I have been reading vaccum removal for the past hour and a half and im prepared to do this mod since its really the only thing left before this is done... except for I cant figure out where a few things go but im working on that lol (They are just mounts nothing internal) and right now lets just say :bong: so im done for the night.. but ill post pics later tommrow.



i would break in the motor with the stock configuration...and once its all good...then do the vac removal

[tuxdreamerx]

Really? thats a good idea. I might wait. I wonder if it would mess anything up by doing it before the break in?