BAR Approved B16 Swap

[racetek82]

Well, I finally got it passed. On Friday morning (April 6,2007), I brought my 1986 Accord LX-i to the referee station to get my B16a3 swap BAR approved. This was my third try at getting it passed, and I guess as they say, third times the charm. I'm not sure if any of the other swapped 3geez have attempted this, but if not, I'm happy to be the first.
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[87LXiR]

:cheers: Congrats! Is the motor stock or have you had some work done to it? Anyways nice ride man keep up the good work.

[racetek82]

The motor is internally stock.

Current modifications are:
Custom 3.5" intake
Custom 2.5" exhaust
Blox Racing intake manifold
Chipped P75 ecu, modified for VTEC and tuned with CROME
MSD Blaster coil
MSD external coil cap
ACT 4 puck unsprung racing clutch

[guaynabo89]

I dont know much about CA smog laws, but does it mean you can pretty much do want you want to that engine?

[racetek82]

I dont know much about CA smog laws, but does it mean you can pretty much do want you want to that engine?

Lolz, I wish that was the truth! What it means is that my swap is legit, and I can smog it like a normal Accord. If I get pulled over by a cop, all is well, he can cry over my BAR sticker while he cleans the donut jelly off his badge...lolz!

[ghettogeddy]

so are u going to the all cali meet in 2weeks out in cambria the nor cal folks are meeting up in san jose and then were driving out there http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56140

[racetek82]

so are u going to the all cali meet in 2weeks out in cambria the nor cal folks are meeting up in san jose and then were driving out there http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56140

Dayamz, Cambria? that's effin far, lolz! I'm down for Bay Area meets, but a 3 hour drive is too far with gas prices as high as they are..lolz...maybe next time.

[Pico]

Come on it's the Nor.Cal/So.Cal meet you have to come to this one.
If not we can all meet at this show All Japan Show (http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58178)
And Congrats on passing..:D

[race12001]

do you have any pic of the swap proccess

[ghettogeddy]

Dayamz, Cambria? that's effin far, lolz! I'm down for Bay Area meets, but a 3 hour drive is too far with gas prices as high as they are..lolz...maybe next time.
well when i get my fi swap and motor rebuilt we will have to have another big nor cal meet

[racetek82]

do you have any pic of the swap proccess


Yeah, I posted them up in a diff thread, I'll have to find it, or just repost the pics.

[MessyHonda]

Dayamz, Cambria? that's effin far, lolz! I'm down for Bay Area meets, but a 3 hour drive is too far with gas prices as high as they are..lolz...maybe next time.



oh come on....you have to go....its one of our biggest meets plus we are going to have food and we will get to talk to the other members and check out cars...

oh yeah congrats on the swap and getting it passed.

[jschatte]

Yeah, I posted them up in a diff thread, I'll have to find it, or just repost the pics.
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41201

[MessyHonda]

http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41201


yeah but the pics dont work....the site has been down for a while

[snoopyloopy]

sweet. so this is basically what we need to get a b20a here legit as well, right? get to the BAR station and have them look over it. what all is required in the check? i remember seeing that someone had gotten it passed as an 89 prelude engine? but i don't remember who it was...

[MessyHonda]

sweet. so this is basically what we need to get a b20a here legit as well, right? get to the BAR station and have them look over it. what all is required in the check? i remember seeing that someone had gotten it passed as an 89 prelude engine? but i don't remember who it was...


it was tooloud

[mkymonkey]

Dayamz, Cambria? that's effin far, lolz! I'm down for Bay Area meets, but a 3 hour drive is too far with gas prices as high as they are..lolz...maybe next time.

dude its a once in a life time thing. if you go, ill throw ya 10 bucks towards your gas. i would like to see more people come to the meet dude :D

[Cheeseburger]

ya really, im tired of seeing the same ugly faces

[MessyHonda]

ya really, im tired of seeing the same ugly faces



good thing...i haven't even meet you.....

[Monster3GK]

i know this is resurrection from hell and if the guy is still here cool but how much did you pay to get the vehicle bar approved??? just curious cuz i just moved to cali so i am still learnin the stuff but not too sure as to the steps. also is it the same cost for any engine or just model specific?

[Civic Accord Honda]

i believe Zach owns this car now

[2drSE-i]

ya man sorry to rain on your parade but i havent seen this guy on here in a while

[racetek82]

i know this is resurrection from hell and if the guy is still here cool but how much did you pay to get the vehicle bar approved??? just curious cuz i just moved to cali so i am still learnin the stuff but not too sure as to the steps. also is it the same cost for any engine or just model specific?

The price of the actual testing is cheap, $35 including the certificate. Cheaper than a regular smog check! The cost, as you will learn, comes from purchasing all the correct smog equipment, and the numerous times you will have to run the tests if you don't get it all right the first time. The cost is the same to test all cars, but the cost to make it compliant will vary greatly with each swap combination. I would suggest calling your closest referee station and asking if you can get the free pamphlets regarding legal swaps and mods.

A few things to keep in mind:
- The engine must be the same year or newer than the vehicle chassis
- All emissions equipment must match the engine (year and model specific)
- You cannot use engines from different vehicle classifications. For example, this means no B20B/Z from the CRV because it is classed as a light truck.
- Make sure you have CARB numbers for ALL of your mods.
- Use only black OEM style rubber hoses, try to avoid aftermarket silicone. These are not recognized as approved unless they are part of a CARB legal kit.
- Don't mix and match engine parts unless you are sure it is undetectable. The more stock you are, the easier it is to pass. Do your mods after your certified!

I hope this helps you and everyone else. Oh, and those who are asking about the B20A, it might not be as easy as you think, they are known to check engine codes and serial numbers from time to time. So trying to pass it as a USDM Prelude engine may not work, especially if the hose routings are different and the emissions equipment is missing or different. Good Luck!

[A18A]

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h233/racetek82/Accord%20LX-i%20B16/Engine/AccordBARTag001.jpg
a 1986 HOND ACCORD even

[Dr_Snooz]

The price of the actual testing is cheap, $35 including the certificate. Cheaper than a regular smog check! The cost, as you will learn, comes from purchasing all the correct smog equipment, and the numerous times you will have to run the tests if you don't get it all right the first time. The cost is the same to test all cars, but the cost to make it compliant will vary greatly with each swap combination. I would suggest calling your closest referee station and asking if you can get the free pamphlets regarding legal swaps and mods.

A few things to keep in mind:
- The engine must be the same year or newer than the vehicle chassis
- All emissions equipment must match the engine (year and model specific)
- You cannot use engines from different vehicle classifications. For example, this means no B20B/Z from the CRV because it is classed as a light truck.
- Make sure you have CARB numbers for ALL of your mods.
- Use only black OEM style rubber hoses, try to avoid aftermarket silicone. These are not recognized as approved unless they are part of a CARB legal kit.
- Don't mix and match engine parts unless you are sure it is undetectable. The more stock you are, the easier it is to pass. Do your mods after your certified!

I hope this helps you and everyone else. Oh, and those who are asking about the B20A, it might not be as easy as you think, they are known to check engine codes and serial numbers from time to time. So trying to pass it as a USDM Prelude engine may not work, especially if the hose routings are different and the emissions equipment is missing or different. Good Luck!

Good info. Thanks!

[MessyHonda]

i got that same sticker now but for my exhaust.