Newbie to the group with new Project car.

[Nemisis]

Here is my $30.00 Project car. 1989 Accord DX. Had a seized motor. I am starting the tear down right now. Building a whole new engine for it.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/224/497095861_6f35137704_m.jpghttp://farm1.static.flickr.com/224/497066926_2620292845_m.jpghttp://farm1.static.flickr.com/207/497096141_9559f15f56_m.jpg

[A18A]

cool! $30, cant beat that lol :D and :welcome: to the forum :)

[ghettogeddy]

are u staying carbed or going fi im also in the procees of rebuilding a motor my lx is going fi i have a thread started with pics of my progress and theres some helpful info in there form some of the vet members

[speedpenguin]

Should have saved your money.

Just kidding! I like DXs, too. They're already stripped so you don't have to do it.

[Pico]

Welcome to the forum.:wave:
Do a F.I swap while you have the engine out. you'll be happy you did :D

[MessyHonda]

nice clean car....like everyone else said do the fuel injection swap. also what are the specs that you are going to build your motor with?

[Hans]

$30 for a car = good deal. Welcome to 3geez. It sucks that the engine is seized, but it will be fun to rebuild an engine. You came to the perfect spot for that

[russiankid]

Very nice project.

[Hans]

It's almost like you have a blank canvas. Use your brush wisely

[LX-incredible]

:welcome: $30...not bad. Is the motor all that's wrong with it?

[Nemisis]

Thanks for the welcomes to the group. Here is the short and dirty on the car. Never been wrecked, Only rust is the lower rocker on the drivers side from sitting parked outside for 3 years. Left front coil spring is broke. Interior was clean. Pulled the interior to inspect fuel and brake lines under carpet. I have been considering the FI Swap. Found a few complete needs lists for the FI Swap here already. Harness, ECU, and other tid bits. My new short block is bored 20 over. Should be here next week. Have the new head sitting and waiting. I would like to do the Si rear disc swap. Hard to find all the parts right now. Pretty clean slate as it sits.

[Nemisis]

Also to speedpenguin's post...Had a 91 Eclipse..I actually miss it..Lost it in Hurricane Katrina. guess she had an appetite for DSM's..LOL Also had an 85 Tercel 2 door Hatch that I converted to AWD SR5 with the 6 speed Manual..Fun ride...Also Ate up by Katrina...Now I am back with my clean slate 3G.

[1ajs]

Also to speedpenguin's post...Had a 91 Eclipse..I actually miss it..Lost it in Hurricane Katrina. guess she had an appetite for DSM's..LOL Also had an 85 Tercel 2 door Hatch that I converted to AWD SR5 with the 6 speed Manual..Fun ride...Also Ate up by Katrina...Now I am back with my clean slate 3G.

nice find for 30$ good luck and :welcome:

[Cheeseburger]

hi

[Steve_Si]

Welcome to the group :)

[Nemisis]

Quick Update. The new head is in. Should have the block in a week. Gonna finish pulling the Old Trans and Block this week.http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/NewHead.jpg

[Nemisis]

Where is the DIY Thread for the FI conversion from the Carb DX setup? Need a complete pull list when I go to the salvage yard Friday.

[ZackieDarko]

fyi the rear discs come from an SE-i not an Si

[MessyHonda]

Where is the DIY Thread for the FI conversion from the Carb DX setup? Need a complete pull list when I go to the salvage yard Friday.




that is one of the most harder jobs to pull off....if you have the mechanical expirience i would go ahead and do it. also look at the condition of the car. i found a good deal on a fuel injected car...and at the end it was cheaper than trying to convert my old carb into fuel injected cuz there is no warranty

[ghettogeddy]

Where is the DIY Thread for the FI conversion from the Carb DX setup? Need a complete pull list when I go to the salvage yard Friday.
> EFI Alternator
> Atmospheric pressure sensor (located under the heater blower)
> Cabin wire harness
> Coolant splitter (located at the very corner of the
> Distributor (you also need the bolts)
> ECU
> EGR Pipe (with the gasket)
> Engine bay wire harness
> Exhaust manifold (88-89 only)
> Fuel feed line (the one that connects to the fuel filter)
> Fuel filter assembly (near the vaccum control box)
> Fuel pump
> Injector resistor box (located near the right strut tower)
> Intake manifold holder bracket
> Oxygen sensor (88-89 only)
> PGM-Fi intake manifold: This includes the injectors and all the sensors
> PGM-Fi Vacuum control box and charcoal canister
> Main relay (located under the dash on the driver side on the side wall)
> Metal coolant pipe (under the intake manifold)
> Thermostat assembly
> EFI Throttle Cable

[frantik]

:welcome:

[Nemisis]

Thanks for the 411. Yes I meant to source SEi..not Si. I have my list now for the scavenger hunt. I will post the results of the finds over the weekend.

[daves88coupe]

hey man nice find i got myself a DX also and im going to be starting a HUGE project in a month or so here. im doing the legend v6 into the accord....:) sleeper....:) wish me luck anyone on here with ANY info on this swap can contact me



dave

[Hans]

hey man nice find i got myself a DX also and im going to be starting a HUGE project in a month or so here. im doing the legend v6 into the accord....:) sleeper....:) wish me luck anyone on here with ANY info on this swap can contact me
dave
have fun with that one and post pics :)

[Nemisis]

I saw a V6 into a MR2 post somewhere awhile back. Not on these forums though. Back to my Scavange hunt for the weekend..Will post the finds.

[Nemisis]

Didn't get to scavenge Saturday..Rained out at the Junk Yard. Did make the local car show here Today. Check this crazy Turbo set-up on an Acura that I helped fab up for my friend Dave.http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/RiponCarShow024r.jpghttp://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/RiponCarShow025r.jpg

[Nemisis]

Another Honda.http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/RiponCarShow020.jpg

[Nemisis]

Progress Update. Got some more parts pulled off the car this weekend. Also wanted to share a pic of my other Honda. My Beloved 1982 Honda CBX Supersport. Only had 12K on it when Hurricane Katrina decided to take it. I looked for 3 days and never found even a piece of her. I was living in Bay Saint Louis, MS .Less than a 1/4 mile from the beach. The storage garage I had it in was wiped to the slab.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/CBX1FrontsideBig.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/89DXSedan005r.jpg

[Nemisis]

Interior Shots. Nice clean floor boards. Yea!! No Rust.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/89DXSedan013r.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/89DXSedan011r.jpg

[Nemisis]

Some exterior shots of the worst rust.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/89DXSedan008r.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/89DXSedan012r.jpg

[Nemisis]

Straight on shot of the front end removed. And my Lights.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/89DXSedan001r.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/89DXSedan023r.jpg

[Nemisis]

Removed double post of last pic.

[speedpenguin]

That's pretty kewl! Looks like you know what you're doing.

[Nemisis]

Thanks Speedpenguin, Having a hell of a time getting the speed sensor out of the 5 speed. Got the 10 mm bolt out it rotates good , just cant get it to pop up and out. Gonna get back at it after dinner...

[ghettogeddy]

sould just be able to rotate and pull up at the same time

[Nemisis]

Yeah. Got it out after dinner. Just needed some nudging. About ready to pull the block and trans now.

['A20A3']

Ahhh the fun part. The pulling of the block and tranny...good luck man.

:thumbup:

[Nemisis]

Thanks, Should be easy. Gonna have all the front suspension off first. Had both front coil springs broke, so gonna freshen up the suspension while I am at it.

[Nemisis]

Just a quick bump. Gonna pull the engine and trans tonight or tomorrow morning.
Gonna clean up and detail the whole engine bay also. Looking to design and refab the engine mounts in aluminum. I will post the CAD renderings soon.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/89DXSedan027r.jpg

[Civic Accord Honda]

nice

[jschatte]

wow its good to see some one just getting right into a project, and actually doing what they are saying

gl!

[Nemisis]

Thanks. I do want this to be a Build diary of sorts. Have Digi Camera. Why not post it up. I want to do the car up right. I think it is clean enough to do a restoration to. I am also interested in designing alot of replacement parts for our 3G's. Looking into making a complete rear disc kit. so we don't have to scavenge for SEi donors. I have 20 years CAD experience and CNC at my disposal, so why not do it. Look forward to your thoughts and comments.

[ahmad89]

I have the same car but auto and almost everything is still factory, which is what is causing so many issues. Wish i had a FI!!

[Nemisis]

I don't know where my Carb setup will take me. I bought this car for $30 not running, so we will see how it goes when I finish the new motor build. I kinda want to stay carbed, but the FI is appealing for many other reasons.

[Nemisis]

Part renderings. Here are a few shots of the rear upper mount I did in CAD. Anodized Blue Aluminum?
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/UpperMount3.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/UpperMount2.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/UpperMount1.jpg

['A20A3']

looks good man that's awesome that you have a CAD machine at your disposal you can make anything. i'm sure i wouldn't be the only one that would be buying a rear disc kit if you made ones up to sell so that's definitely a good idea on that. good luck with everything man.

[Nemisis]

As soon as I find and buy all the SEI Rear components for the brake swap. I will shoot everything into CAD and see what I can come up with. Working on a set of front and rear strut tower bars right now. I will post them up soon.

[Nemisis]

Another Mount with raised lettering..
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/UpperMount4.jpg

[ghettogeddy]

id buy a rear disk setup if its done right and not overly expensive

[Nemisis]

My thread has turned into a two fold project. As I read the posts here, I see there is a need for, or lack of trick functional components for the 3G. As I rebuild my 89, I am documenting and putting in all the dimensions of parts into CAD. Once my engine build is done and installed, I want to move to the suspension, and the rear Disc swap. That is when I will see if it is feasible to fabricate and machine those parts for the rear suspension. The other "Bling" parts, I can do all day, Trick Aluminum motor mounts, Strut bars, and various other brackets. Those are more cosmetic, with exception to the strut bars. Could have some fun with designs there for sure. I look forward to the input and suggestions for parts that we wont be able to find that I could reproduce.

[1ajs]

you use inventor at all?


i am trained in inventor and auto cad my self have played with cadcam but yeah not enuff to do anything and since i don't have 5 grand for software and don't use windows i am kinda screwed :(


we need a full 3d model of a 4dr 2dr and hatch 3gee.. and since cars are just sheet metal spot welded together it could be all done in inventor as seperat parts....... and asembled image an exploded 3d model of a 3gee drools

sujestion to stop the rust from geting worse pull your rear bumper off and inspect it and get a cuple cans of zink oxide primer!!! and spray thoughs areas till you can take care of them

[Nemisis]

I use Rhino CAD Nurbus modeling software. Also have full version of Bob CAD CAM also. Both way better than Auto CAD for me anyways. Been using Rhino for 7 years. To recreate the entire Accord could be cool. I was more focused on more practical design of parts for our rides. I want to do an aftermarket kit, if you will, of a complete rear Disc brake setup for the non SEi's. Saving having to find a SEi donor at the salvage yard. Also a better Y fork design for the front strut mount that will let you pass the Axle and CV Joint thru it.

[Nemisis]

Maybe another 3G in my future?. Looking to buy this 89 Coupe, for sale here locally. What do you think?. I will have 2 white 3G's...Sweet...
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/dda5_1.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/85c9_1.jpg

[russiankid]

Other then the rust it looks good.

[MessyHonda]

yeah rust killed it

[Nemisis]

Well if I don't save all the 3G's who will...LOL..Not as rusted as some I have seen... Should know by the weekend if I will move on it. Gonna take it for a spin on Saturday.

[Nemisis]

Just a quick update. Been out of state alot for work, but the Honda projects continue. My friend Dean has his 89 LXi in our shop for restoration and paint. My 89 DX will go in for body next. almost have the new engine completed for it. We also picked up a 92 Civic for $400.00 Just needed a Coil. Runs perfect. It has been the fetch car the last few weeks.
Some pics.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/Samsung7-8-07012.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/Samsung7-8-07011.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/Samsung7-8-07013.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/Samsung7-8-07015.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/Samsung7-8-07018.jpg

[Nemisis]

Also another find to add to my Garage. Gonna pick this up next week. Only has 85K Original miles on it. What do you think? 1987 Sterling. AKA Acura / Rover Legend.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/1987Sterling2.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/1987Sterling3.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/1987Sterling1.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/1987Sterling.jpg

[Nemisis]

Off to hit a few Pick and Pulls today. Found a few SEi's during the week.Looks promising for rear brake swap material, and decent interior donors. Will post pics of what I find.

[A18A]

i wanna drop my car off there for restoration :D

[Hazwan]

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/Samsung7-8-07018.jpg

A stock Civic!!!!! LOL what a rare sight :D

[Nemisis]

Yeah..The Civi was UN-Riced..Can you believe it? Great runner. Yes we have the shop for great Honda work. Also have an 88GT Fiero under the tarp back there. Painted 2 years ago. Finishing up some mechanicals on it.

['A20A3']

Just a quick bump. Gonna pull the engine and trans tonight or tomorrow morning.
Gonna clean up and detail the whole engine bay also. Looking to design and refab the engine mounts in aluminum. I will post the CAD renderings soon
i'm pretty interested in a set of those if you would be willing to make them for me. what with our shift rod linkage and my aspirations of built motor boost numbers i would sleep better at night knowing i wasn't going to blow my transmission up cause i spent a few bucks on something that looks as nice as it performs. lemme know man.

[Nemisis]

Update on the first 89 out of paint now. Before and after.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/2007_083089HONDAGLAZE0001.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/2007_091689HONDAPAINT0002.jpg

[A18A]

wow good work :bow:

[Civic Accord Honda]

holly shet that looks damn good :thumbup: can i bring my car in? lol

[MessyHonda]

black sedans starting to look really good.

[Nemisis]

Thanks for the comments. Here are some new shots of it assembled and back on the ground.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/2007_0922ACCORDPAINTED0015.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/2007_0922ACCORDPAINTED0013.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/2007_0922ACCORDPAINTED0006.jpg

[Nemisis]

Forgot this Pic.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/2007_0922ACCORDPAINTED0007.jpg

[russiankid]

Holy hell that is clean. Nice work!!!!:thumbup:

[knarg]

wow, looks amazing! nice paint job!

[stat1K]

finally someone who does shit right! black sedan ftw! i always wanted to paint my coupe black. maybe i can convince lx-incredible to do so! lol. looks sick hopefully the 30 dollar car will be sweet as well.

[LX-incredible]

finally someone who does shit right! black sedan ftw! i always wanted to paint my coupe black. maybe i can convince lx-incredible to do so! lol. looks sick hopefully the 30 dollar car will be sweet as well.

I was thinking more of a gunmetal, but if you are willing to donate to the MB II AC fund, I might reconcider. lol. I'll be checking that jy tommorow or wednesday for your engine and trans, I'll let you know.

It's beautiful Nemisis, good work!

[LX-incredible]

Also another find to add to my Garage. Gonna pick this up next week. Only has 85K Original miles on it. What do you think? 1987 Sterling. AKA Acura / Rover Legend.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/1987Sterling2.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/1987Sterling3.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/1987Sterling1.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i226/CBXGuruJim/1987Sterling.jpg
Did those have the 2500 or the 2700. My buddy has a legend, what a lemon!

[MessyHonda]

man that car is clean

[A18A]

wow you're ftw

[Hazwan]

Nice and shiny!

[Nemisis]

Did those have the 2500 or the 2700. My buddy has a legend, what a lemon!
This has the 2500..I never got this one..Been out of state the last 2 months on a job in Mississippi..Lots of clean 3G's here..might pick one up in the next few weeks.