Summer Time + Carbs = Yay!

[MIK3]

Do any other carbed people out there notice a overall better driving experience in the summer? Mine gets better milege, seems as if it performs better, is a smoother ride and is way more responsive.

I love summer time. :)

[backhatcher]

yup, no waiting for the choke to open up for any long periods and smooth sailin all the way

[2ndGenGuy]

Yep, the Weber loves the summer heat. :D

[MessyHonda]

i only get like 30mpg....most of it highway driving

[skycam_313]

wayy better response..... and so smooth :thumbup: love summer

[MessyHonda]

i would rather take my lx-i over my dx anytime. efi has better responce....and has some go....the max i ever take my dx is like 95....its slow as shit....i can do 95 in 4th gear at like 4500RPM with EFI.

[forrest89sei]

Ah summer time, back when my family would go like 130 miles a day to help my dying grandma summer time was always great with the LX, we would get about 450 miles a tank with A/C on full Blast :D

Summer Time is the best time for carbs, winter time is not

[Toneloc5145]

I concur. My gas mileage has improved by almost 60 miles. And the car DOES drive smoother. It also feels more resonsive. I just hate how slow the car is with the A/C on, but I can manage.

[JHAAz]

I wish my A/C blew cold air :Owned2:

[2oodoor]

I wish my A/C blew cold air :Owned2:
X2
and Haaaail yea the weber loves hot weather, I almost want to put the factory base heater under it but then I worry about messing up adapter set up, and the P&P work I did .

[speedpenguin]

All cars get better mileage in the summer because they warm up faster!

I kinda miss having a carb though. Made me feel like a badass.

[Civic Accord Honda]

I wish my A/C blew cold air :Owned2:
X2

[frantik]

^ +1

luckily i have some old ass R12 sitting around.. not like i know how to use it lol

[2oodoor]

I kinda miss having a carb though. Made me feel like a badass.

Hey no need to be sarcastic:)

I dont think you need a carb to get there from here crouching tiger j/k
D series army standard operating procedure clearly states no fraternization with carbs... lol ... unless you are in airborn platoons.. lol
www.redpepperracing.com find D15 with webers

[speedpenguin]

I wasn't being sarcastic. I have fond memories of telling people my car was carbureted and them freaking out. Or sometimes asking me what "carbureted" was.

[backhatcher]

hehe i love openin the hood and takin off the breather and askin anyone if they want to work on it if they havent dealt with one before, they look at them vacuum lines and run with the tails between their legs

[MIK3]

I just hate how slow the car is with the A/C on, but I can manage.

Yeah, heh. I tend just to sweat it out if I'm not going to something too important. I'd sacrifice a cool atmosphere anyday if it means I'll get better gas mileage and better acceleration :)

[2oodoor]

M_M
:rly:

[russiankid]

Do any other carbed people out there notice a overall better driving experience in the summer? Mine gets better milege, seems as if it performs better, is a smoother ride and is way more responsive.
I love summer time. :)
Mine doesn't bog when cold in the summer. It seems to also run smoother.

[russiankid]

i would rather take my lx-i over my dx anytime. efi has better responce....and has some go....the max i ever take my dx is like 95....its slow as shit....i can do 95 in 4th gear at like 4500RPM with EFI.
Your DX has autotragic disease. With a 5-speed you can go past 95mph with a carb easily.

[88accordSF]

Carbs. = Ghey!

just because someone may not know how to tune a carburetor, doesn't mean EFI is better.... :)

in terms of chaotic variables, EFI is statistically MORE proned to errors due to the number of variables in the intake setup.

EFI is a great thing. no doubt about it. but when your EFI solenoid fails and you can't repair it on the side of the road in the middle of Bumf*ck, Whereever, I'll be laughing....

yours truly,

.: a NASA aeronautics mechanic

[speedpenguin]

Your DX has autotragic disease. With a 5-speed you can go past 95mpg with a carb easily.

Don't you mean 95MPH?

[russiankid]

Don't you mean 95MPH?
Yea sorry fixed it:uh:

[ahmad89]

Mine doesn't run:rant: :hmph: :koolaid:

[MessyHonda]

Your DX has autotragic disease. With a 5-speed you can go past 95mph with a carb easily.



yeah i done like 110 tops......but now it seamed slower

[mustard_madman]

just because someone may not know how to tune a carburetor, doesn't mean EFI is better.... :)
in terms of chaotic variables, EFI is statistically MORE proned to errors due to the number of variables in the intake setup.
EFI is a great thing. no doubt about it. but when your EFI solenoid fails and you can't repair it on the side of the road in the middle of Bumf*ck, Whereever, I'll be laughing....
yours truly,
.: a NASA aeronautics mechanic


And again, I don't care what your profession is. Way to throw that in there to sway how people think. Fuel injection is better than a carb. any day. If carbs were so great and reliable, then why did the auto. industry switch to fuel injection? Maybe it's because FI is more reliable, more efficient, less prone to problems, and I'm sorry, but FI diagnostics is really not that hard to work with.

Yours truely,

A guy who owns both fuel injected and carbed. automobiles.


And your a nice guy laughing at people who have automotive break downs.

[2ndGenGuy]

And my carb'd car will do 115mph just fine, thank you very much. :D

[russiankid]

And again, I don't care what your profession is. Way to throw that in there to sway how people think. Fuel injection is better than a carb. any day. If carbs were so great and reliable, then why did the auto. industry switch to fuel injection? Maybe it's because FI is more reliable, more efficient, less prone to problems, and I'm sorry, but FI diagnostics is really not that hard to work with.
Yours truely,
A guy who owns both fuel injected and carbed. automobiles.
And your a nice guy laughing at people who have automotive break downs.
I'm not going to get into this fury of flam-age, but you saying that FI is better than carb is just a personal opinion. Some people will say the total opposite. I believe that the automobile industry switched to FI because of the growth of technology and carb's just got outdated.

[2oodoor]

And again, I don't care what your profession is. Way to throw that in there to sway how people think. Fuel injection is better than a carb. any day. If carbs were so great and reliable, then why did the auto. industry switch to fuel injection? Maybe it's because FI is more reliable, more efficient, less prone to problems, and I'm sorry, but FI diagnostics is really not that hard to work with.
Yours truely,
A guy who owns both fuel injected and carbed. automobiles.
And your a nice guy laughing at people who have automotive break downs.
I have to disagree with a portion of your philosophy. The reason automakers switched to FI : to easier meet emmisions standards, to meet govt. standards for overall fleet brand MPG. If it were not for those requirements I think you would still see a mix of both carbed and FI vehicles sold new.
As far as performance, if you look at off road, drag racing, and boat racing, nascar, dirt track racing, go cart racing, small airplanes, all are staying with carbed engines for more raw performance.

In additon, this thread was not started for carb flaming, and now thanks so post jackers it is no longer appropriate for Carb Techincal

[MIK3]

In additon, this thread was not started for carb flaming, and now thanks so post jackers it is no longer appropriate for Carb Techincal


Which is the reason I decided to clean it up. This is a productive carb thread, and I intend on keeping it that way.

[Crazybird]

the dark blue interior plus not having my a/c ever on since it seems to run out :S and we dont have freeon up here

and holy shit how do u guys get 450 miles outa a tank i can maybe squeeze 600kms outa mine ..... but i drive in the city alot... i guess that explains it

and actually some days my car acts nice but if it rained watch out it likes to feel like bogging out especially at night with everything on and my subs hitting ohhh those were some scary nights

is there anyway of maybe just cleaning out my engine cause i dunno about seafoam im scared that my engine might just die if i use it :S any suggestions (sry for maybe thread jacking)

[russiankid]

the dark blue interior plus not having my a/c ever on since it seems to run out :S and we dont have freeon up here
and holy shit how do u guys get 450 miles outa a tank i can maybe squeeze 600kms outa mine ..... but i drive in the city alot... i guess that explains it
and actually some days my car acts nice but if it rained watch out it likes to feel like bogging out especially at night with everything on and my subs hitting ohhh those were some scary nights
is there anyway of maybe just cleaning out my engine cause i dunno about seafoam im scared that my engine might just die if i use it :S any suggestions (sry for maybe thread jacking)
Only way i know is carb cleaner, and fuel system treatments or cleaners. I ran some through mine and it runs better, the idle is smoother.

[BenAthar]

Just don't forget about those rebuilds now and then. I have a spare carb for mine and plan on rebuilding it to put back on, when my holly version of Kehin(sp?) breaks down.

[88accordSF]

I've slammed way past 115mph in the past couple weeks (A20A1, carbed). After that speed, I'm watching the road and not the needle.

I'm not sure what rpm that was, or whether I'd encounter any type of 1980s-government-mandated-speed-control after that, but the car definitely seemed to have a lot of room to go. Definitely was NOT at the top of the powerband at after 115mph. And this is with a stock intake and exhaust, brand new head and new "upperdeck" components.

Driving a 92k mile automatic with:

set tires @ front 30 lbs, rear 30 lbs (2007-04-14) .25 hour
new fuel filters, pcv valve & hose (2007-04-22) $20 + 1 hour
new Napa thermostat (2007-05-19) $10 + 1 hour
new A20A1 engine head, graphite gasket (2007-05-20, 91800m) $310 + 12 hours
new Honda head heater hose pipe (2007-05-25) $15 + .25 hour
new Napa Gold air filter (2007-05-25) $15 + .25 hour
new Napa distributor cap (2007-05-25) $15 + .25 hour
new Napa rotor brass-terminal (2007-05-25) $10 + .25 hour
new Napa valve cover gasket (2007-05-26) $15 + .5 hour
new Prestone Extended Life Antifreeze (2007-05-26) $20 + .5 hour
new NGK BRP6EIX-11 Iridium plugs (2007-05-26) $35 + .5 hour
new Taylor 8mm Silicone red wires (2007-05-27) $40 + .5 hour
new Vapex Hitachi Distributor, air suction valve vacuum line hoses (2007-05-28) $160 + 1.5 hours
new B&M SuperCooler Oil Cooler, 7 1/ 2 in. x 11 in. x 3/ 4 in., (2007-05-28) $70 + 2 hours
new B&M Trickshift Full Synthetic ATF (2007-05-28, 91800m) $20 + 1 hour
new Mobil 1 oil filter (2007-05-28, 91800m) $15 + .5 hour
new Mobil 1 full synthetic 15w-50 (2007-05-28, 91800m) $25 + .5 hour
new stock coil (2007-06-02) $85 + .5 hour
new Napa pcv valve (2007-06-03) $20 + .5 hour
swapped in Exide Marathon battery (2007-06-03) .5 hour


For me, if I know how every single component is working on my car, and keep it in nominal running condition, thats a big part of going fast. I'm an AFM Superbike track-trained racer... To me, its all about (a) replacing everything with new components, and then (b) tuning, experimenting, tuning, refining, and tuning again.

Anybody that says carbed 3geez sucks just has no idea of whats going on in real life....

[88accordSF]

if you look at off road, drag racing, and boat racing, nascar, dirt track racing, go cart racing, small airplanes, all are staying with carbed engines for more raw performance.

very true. proof in the pudding.


Which is the reason I decided to clean it up. This is a productive carb thread, and I intend on keeping it that way.

thanks mik3! appreciated.

[A20A1]

I have summer all year round :)
Carbs aren't so bad... what I don't like is when I replace an EFI filter I have to depressurize the line, and the filters are a little more expensive because they are constructed to hold pressure, also the banjo bolt isn't the most universal connection so it's not like you can just buy any filter behind the counter.

I wonder if E85 tuned carbs will bring back carburetors, minus the feedback system since ethanol is supposed to burn cleaner? We could replace the fuel pump and lines to work with E85 and change the carb and boom, E85 compatable.
Oh and adjust the spark plug gaps as some other thread just pointed out recently.

[2oodoor]

I really do not see that happening, but it is good to dream.. lol
Now they are making active fuel managment controls for vehicles to burn any fuel, E85 or unleaded, or methanol etc... flex fuel is the coming trend. My guess is....
Because E85 has 30-40 percent less BTU "ability" automakers will continue to use electronics to squeeze effeciency.

also I have found that using 93 octane helps with that flat spot feeling with cooler temps, still there a little though..

[A20A1]

Yeah but we can up the compression or something :)