need help

[Civic Accord Honda]

for the past weak my car has been smelling like a old lawn mower. and has not been starting right up today the car would not start at all for like 10 mins it would start for a sec then then sputer then stall so i poped the hood and i saw oil leaking out of the head :wtf: finey the car started and m,y step dad left for work but dose anyone know why it is doing this?

[3rdgenhatchDX]

headgasket? did you over heat it?

[Civic Accord Honda]

it was only overheated once back in aug when the clutch went out

but even if the head gasket is bad how would that cause starting problems?

[bullard123]

it was only overheated once back in aug when the clutch went out

but even if the head gasket is bad how would that cause starting problems?
Yes sir. If white smoke comes out of the exhaust when it runs, that is a definite sign of a blown head gasket

[Civic Accord Honda]

have not seen any white smoke come out the tail pipe yet it just started leaking there today i have never seen it leaking from there b-4

[3rdgenhatchDX]

Not to be mistaken for causing the starting problems but you might not have any compression man....

[3rdgenhatchDX]

is your step dad driving it to work? does he work at an auto shop cuz i'd get it compression tested asap!

[Civic Accord Honda]

well it did finey start as i said..

um also i just washed the engine tuesday and about 3 weaks ago i flushed the engine with some prestone 10min flush then added coolent and distaled water

[Civic Accord Honda]

is your step dad driving it to work? does he work at an auto shop cuz i'd get it compression tested asap!
he is a clerk at a gas staitin/mini mart

i have a compression tester thingy tho lol have no clue whatsoever on how to use it

[LX-incredible]

but even if the head gasket is bad how would that cause starting problems?
Low compression and fouled plugs dont help starting.

[Civic Accord Honda]

i just replaced the plugs/wires in FEB
also the vlaves have been ticking alot


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this is a compresion tester right?
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/civicaccordhonda/P1010005-2.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/civicaccordhonda/P1010004-2.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/civicaccordhonda/P1010002-3.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/civicaccordhonda/P1010001-4.jpg

[3rdgenhatchDX]

compression tester, or jdm horsepower gauge lol, j/p well how far is he driving it? and by finey you mean fine, funny, finally? whatchu talking bout willis?

[3rdgenhatchDX]

have you started it since tuesday? water in the dist. cap is a possibility

[Civic Accord Honda]

LOL i ment finally.................
and his work is
Total Est. Time: 6 minutes

Total Est. Distance: 2.66 miles
according to mapquest lol

[Civic Accord Honda]

have you started it since tuesday? water in the dist. cap is a possibility
it's a DD so it has been driven every day since and it been about 117F* during the day so i know it all dry i also coverd all the wireing and dizzy and coil when i sprayed the engine down

[3rdgenhatchDX]

ah finally.... hmmm well cah ...i'd have to be there

Describe this lawnmower smell please?

[Civic Accord Honda]

ah finally.... hmmm well cah ...i'd have to be there

Describe this lawnmower smell please?
oil/gas mixter and burning and storng exhust

it smells like my grandmas lawn mower with the blown engine

[3rdgenhatchDX]

The cars gone i take it, next time you've got it pull the plug wires out of the head/vc and watch to see which one pours oil i'm guessing it's gonna be cyl 3... possibly :(

My 3g had oil in cyl 3 needed valve cover gasket, and accelerator pump...

[Civic Accord Honda]

so take the plugs out and try and start it?

[3rdgenhatchDX]

so take the plugs out and try and start it?

No, just pull the plug wires and if one of the wire boots is soaked your looking at atleast a valvecover gasket... what do you have an A1 or A3?

[Civic Accord Honda]

No, just pull the plug wires and if one of the wire boots is soaked your looking at atleast a valvecover gasket... what do you have an A1 or A3?
i just repainted the vlave cover and gasket last weak
it is a A20A3 1988 model

[3rdgenhatchDX]

i just repainted the vlave cover and gasket last weak
it is a A20A3 1988 model

mmmk pull your plugs, check for oil...

[Civic Accord Honda]

ok

last time i took them out to replace them one plug had no gap and thay all had a bunch of gunk on them

[Pico]

check comoression,
first disconnect the coil wire so that the engine wont start,
then remove one plug and have someone crank the engine while you have the compression tester in the plug hole, do this for each cylinder and read/write down the reading for each hole.

[Civic Accord Honda]

check comoression,
first disconnect the coil wire so that the engine wont start,
then remove one plug and have someone crank the engine while you have the compression tester in the plug hole, do this for each cylinder and read/write down the reading for each hole.
well do Mr Pico

[3rdgenhatchDX]

Good luck...

[88Accord-DX]

check comoression,
first disconnect the coil wire so that the engine wont start,
then remove one plug and have someone crank the engine while you have the compression tester in the plug hole, do this for each cylinder and read/write down the reading for each hole.
Also, remove the fuel pump relay.

CAH, that type compression tester sucks & isn't real accurate. If you can, get one that screws in the plug hole.

[3rdgenhatchDX]

Also, remove the fuel pump relay.
CAH, that type compression tester sucks & isn't real accurate. If you can, get one that screws in the plug hole.

I Second this...

[Civic Accord Honda]

Also, remove the fuel pump relay.

CAH, that type compression tester sucks & isn't real accurate. If you can, get one that screws in the plug hole.
where the heck is the fuel pump relay lol

and thats the best i can do on the compresion tester i got no money right now lol

[lostforawhile]

it was probably all that reving you did sitting in place like in the video. it won't start with a blown head gasket because it doesn't have any compression. if theres oil leaking out of the head,i'm sure it's blown.

[3rdgenhatchDX]

theres oil leaking out of the head,i'm sure it's blown.

That's what i'm thinking, it'll still run and drive but you'll have to get it to start everytime... if it's a 5spd park it on a hill.... if ya know what i mean lol

[Civic Accord Honda]

we had a 85 subaru GL with blown heads and it still started and we drove it like that for months untel oil started pooring out the carb then we parked it for 3months some one came wo buy it and it started right up

[frantik]

maybe it depends where the gasket is blown.. but dude if you have oil coming from where the gasket is, what else could it be?

maybe you can sell it to the state for $1000 now. :)

[Civic Accord Honda]

it is not sue for a smog check untel 2009 O_O

[frantik]

that sucks that u didnt get forrests car yet :thumbdn: dont spend any money fixing this one just spend it on getting that other one even if it means having your dad take a bus or something over to forrests place

[Civic Accord Honda]

i'm not puting anymore money in to this car thats for sure tonight i am taking all my shit out of it, the car just has to last intel we move so just back and forth to his work and once to the store a weak it should be fine like i said we drove the subaru for months

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i took some pics of the leak when my step dad was on his lunch break...

i started the car this time it started then it stalled real quick like it lost all spark or the battery cut out so i am think the stalling and starting problems are from elec maybe a bad ground? or the ecu

anyway on to pics
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/civicaccordhonda/HG/P1010006.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/civicaccordhonda/HG/P1010005.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/civicaccordhonda/HG/P1010004.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/civicaccordhonda/HG/P1010003.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/civicaccordhonda/HG/P1010002.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/civicaccordhonda/HG/P1010001.jpg

[frantik]

when u washed the engine u prolly broke the seal of old dirt and oil :lol:

[Civic Accord Honda]

when u washed the engine u prolly broke the seal of old dirt and oil :lol:
funny thing is thats what i was thinking lol
b-4 then the engine was never washed

[russiankid]

Yea check compression. From what i remember you said your car didn't have any oil and it started to knock, which i assume isn't good for the engine. Oil leaking from the head is most likely the head gasket since oil does run down from the head to the oil pan.

[russiankid]

when u washed the engine u prolly broke the seal of old dirt and oil :lol:
If that is the case then :bowrofl:

[Civic Accord Honda]

plugs
http://s110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/civicaccordhonda/plugs/

[Oldblueaccord]

Well plugs look ok to me prolly lean if anything.

The head gasket pictures or leak what ever that is. You didnt use blue permatex on the head gasket??? cuz i see something blue on the seem.

That leak is most likely the distributor to head gasket. You can use permatex on it in fact I would recommend it. Its a common leak path.


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[LX-incredible]

Isn't the oil passage on the intake side of the block? You need to completely clean that mess up if you want to find your leak. It looks to me that it is coming from the distributor seal, an $8 part.

[MessyHonda]

Isn't the oil passage on the intake side of the block? You need to completely clean that mess up if you want to find your leak. It looks to me that it is coming from the distributor seal, an $8 part.



is that honda price...i need to get one. but im also in the process of upgrading my whole top half of my engine. everything is going to be new i hope.

[LX-incredible]

If we are talking about the shaft seal, Honda doesn't sell them, they sell you the whole dizzy instead. Drivewire and some others sell them for around $8. Honda only sells the O-rings.