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MessyHonda
07-17-2007, 02:03 PM
hey i was just wondering if you guys had any radar detectors.

what are you guys running and do they really work...if i end up getting one il prob be something sub~150

2oodoor
07-17-2007, 02:14 PM
they are outlawed in some states, new laws that you find out about when it is too late, watch out guys

Laser detectors IMO are useless since they can momentarliy shoot lasers and most of the time they are on before you can subtract 20 mph covertly. They have cameras on them now too, here at least they also work in teams with chase cars and the laser dude up on a bridge or in the air or woods in a four wheeler. or bike.. yea
The standard KA, K etc, type work good for those small town speed traps, you can usually get a clue he is there well in advance of visable contact. Thing is though they go off at any motion sensor or RFID scanner, which would be grocery stores, cell towers, the warning is usually different sounding than real radar though.
The best radar detector is your instinct, watch the other animals....

Hash_man_Se_i
07-17-2007, 02:24 PM
Radar detectors are only good if you get the more expensive ones ie: Escort 8500 or bell RX65 i think its called... bell and escort are made by the same company.

Also, if they use Laser in your state/area then a radar detector will be useless most of the time.

AccordEpicenter
07-17-2007, 03:38 PM
No good radar detector is cheap. Youre pretty much wasting your time with anything less than a high end bel, escort or V1... nothing else works all that great. Ive owned cobras and stuff like that before, absolutely no comparison. And yes, laser detectors are pretty much worthless, once the detector goes off, they already know how fast your going, so you have practically no chance even with the best one. You have a shot against K and KA radar with one (nobody i know still uses X band) with a good detector, but the best idea is to not speed very much when you are the only car on the road etc, use your head. I try not to speed unless im in traffic. Also ive seen alot of instant on action from cops using K and KA radar lately so you really gotta be careful even with a detector.

edit: I use an escort passport 8500 X50

AccordB20A
07-17-2007, 11:24 PM
yeah cops are damn sneaky haha. i chose not to speed on main roads. and also if the car in front of me is speeding i will follw it. that way he gets spotted 1st

cubert
07-18-2007, 03:47 AM
i have one of the cobra ones...like roodoo said its enough to know when there are speedtraps and stuff like that...its been enough to save my ass on many occasions.

2drSE-i
07-18-2007, 06:42 AM
yeah cops are damn sneaky haha. i chose not to speed on main roads. and also if the car in front of me is speeding i will follw it. that way he gets spotted 1st



funny that you say that. My patrol procedures class is teaching us about how to stay off main roads, because people commiting serious crimes are on the backroads.

evil88accordLX
07-18-2007, 07:26 AM
funny that you say that. My patrol procedures class is teaching us about how to stay off main roads, because people commiting serious crimes are on the backroads.
yeah here in northwest arkansas, its really rare to see cops on the highway. if they are on the highway, they usually stay in plain view. but they are all over the place otherwise. speeding isnt really an issue here though. they are more looking for drunk drivers and drug dealers.

w261w261
07-18-2007, 07:46 AM
It's pricey, but the Valentine is generally considered to be the best of the best. $400, the price of one big ticket, not to mention the points and insurance increase.

The best way not to get nailed for speeding is to drive smart. If you are the only one on the road, particularly at night, then you just can't haul ass...you'll be caught eventually. Cops, sitting by the road with their detectors in "instant-on" or "Pop" mode, see your lights coming. They know how fast you're going already, because they have watched so much traffic. They wait until you're in range, then ZAP. You have no chance. True, some are lazy, they sit there with the radar on, set to a threshold alarm, then bust people at their leisure, but sometimes not.

Laser is real tough. The patrol car parked sideways is a dead giveaway, but they also put officers in mowing tractors, on bridges, etc. You have to be very alert, and don't come over hills etc at speed. Finding another car to tail sometimes works, but don't stay too close, you can both get zapped and pulled over together.

IMO, the best situation to make time is a fairly flat road, with groups of traffic in the fast lane travelling at 10-15 over the limit. You can work your way through the group, then when a nice open stretch presents itself, accelerate to the next group. You can average good speed that way.

In CT, reckless driving is 85 or over, which is nominally a criminal charge, but they will reduce it if you aren't going real fast. But over 100 you're on your own.

2oodoor
07-18-2007, 08:41 AM
very experienced speeder are you, W261 ? you nailed it

mowing tractors, crap that is a new one I do not doubt

w261w261
07-18-2007, 10:43 AM
very experienced speeder are you, W261 ? you nailed it
mowing tractors, crap that is a new one I do not doubt

I've had 2 speeding tickets in the past twenty years, both well-deserved. One was on the freeway coming out of San Francisco. I was in the left lane at 85, and drove right past a CHIP on a bike in the middle lane. We don't have many motorcycle cops in the east. But duh.

The last one was about 5 years ago in upstate NY. I was on a slight downhill curve around a solid rock wall, with the music on too loud. When I finally said to myself "What's that screaming? It's...my...radar....detector...YIKES!" It was too late. Zapped at 92, but because I immediately pulled over and waited for him to catch up, he wrote me up at only 85. Again, inattention.

I like the Valentine because, as the ads say, once you get used to the arrows it's hard to live without them.

In the 1970's, when so many people had CB radios, that was really good because the truckers would warn each other about traps. I don't even know if truckers use CBs any more, but I keep meaning to find out, because that was a big help.

Roodoo, I notice that you're from GA. In the 1950's, a town called Luduwici had one of the most notorious traps in the south. This was before interstates, and downtown Luduwici had a stoplight that was controlled by someone sitting in a building at the intersection. When a victim would approach, they would hit the yellow, then the red, so quickly that the sucker would end up running the light. The cops were waiting. AAA ended up directing people around towns that did stuff like that, which was a way to put pressure on the merchants. There were all sorts of cons, like in Chiefland, FL, where a loooong straight stretch had a very, very lightly painted no passing line. People couldn't see it, especially at night, and the long road provided good sight lines, so they would pass, and bingo. Also a favorite was the go-around-the-corner-and-there's-the-25mph speed limit sign with cop.

I got clocked by an airplane in MN in the 70's. Not much you can do about that either.

w261w261
07-18-2007, 10:53 AM
I forgot to mention one very important tip. If you see traffic ahead of you hit their brake lights, slow down NOW. It's a reflex action when they see the cop ahead.

Any car parked on the shoulder ahead with it's trunk up should be suspect. By the time you see the light bar it's too late.

I mentioned this a couple of years ago. The MA patrol had these Mustangs with radar firing out the rear windows. They would cruise the left lanes, and try to get people to hang with them, gradually increasing their speed until they were flying pretty good. Then they'd zap the follower. Now that's dirty pool.

MessyHonda
07-18-2007, 11:31 AM
so you guys are saying to drive smarter. i still want to get one....i guess i have to save up a little more to get a better one. any one had any expirence with the corbra ones. they are 12 band while the high end escort are only 8 with a 300 buck price tag.


w261w261 thanks for your impute...i only seen thoes valentine radar detetors on like car magazines like car and driver.

evil88accordLX
07-18-2007, 01:34 PM
I mentioned this a couple of years ago. The MA patrol had these Mustangs with radar firing out the rear windows. They would cruise the left lanes, and try to get people to hang with them, gradually increasing their speed until they were flying pretty good. Then they'd zap the follower. Now that's dirty pool.
that is entrapment and is very much so illegal. if this happens to anyone, get the officers name, badge number, and car number. then file a formal complaint with the officer, the police department, and the city. under no circumstances are patrol officers allowed to bait other drivers into a speed contest then pull them over.

w261w261
07-18-2007, 01:38 PM
that is entrapment and is very much so illegal. if this happens to anyone, get the officers name, badge number, and car number. then file a formal complaint with the officer, the police department, and the city. under no circumstances are patrol officers allowed to bait other drivers into a speed contest then pull them over.

It wasn't a speed contest, the victims were merely keeping up with traffic. It's just that the traffic turned out to be the cops. They did this all the time. Don't know if they still are at it...this was several years ago.

evil88accordLX
07-18-2007, 01:51 PM
seems that last time i was in MA, the average speed on the turnpike was about 95 anyhow........

w261w261
07-18-2007, 01:58 PM
seems that last time i was in MA, the average speed on the turnpike was about 95 anyhow........

That's why this whole speed enforcement thing is so morally bankrupt. Traffic moves at whatever speed it's comfortable doing, and 98% of the time that's ok. Then the other 2% is when a few sacrificial sheep get sheared. If you're one of the sheep, you're hurtin'. The other 98% drive by the traffic stop, briefly slow down a bit, then take it right back up.

evil88accordLX
07-18-2007, 02:09 PM
yeah really. i try not to speed anyhow. i have long hair and a goatee, so i get harassed majorly if i get pulled over. first two questions are always: "how much have you had to drink" and "are there drugs in the car". stupid cops. oh, and ive been pulled over while walking also.

MessyHonda
07-18-2007, 03:01 PM
yeah really. i try not to speed anyhow. i have long hair and a goatee, so i get harassed majorly if i get pulled over. first two questions are always: "how much have you had to drink" and "are there drugs in the car". stupid cops. oh, and ive been pulled over while walking also.


i have long hair also...the cop that pulled me over said my front windows where too dark and that he could not distinguish if i was a male or female.....why the fuck does it mater if im driving good.

jlros75
07-18-2007, 05:12 PM
In my opinion if you want a radar detector save some money and buy the Valentine One $399.00 at valentineone.com That's the best radar period!! That and the Passport 8500 X50, had almost the same sensibility range but the passport will give you more false alarms on Auto mode (mode that filters most of the junk signals) while the Valentine One in Logic mode will tell you treats only (very few junk signals) I have both so I know that the V1 is better but either one is over $300.00 Anything else that is cheap is going to be good for nothing.

evil88accordLX
07-19-2007, 07:24 AM
i have long hair also...the cop that pulled me over said my front windows where too dark and that he could not distinguish if i was a male or female.....why the fuck does it mater if im driving good.
funny, i had a cop tell me the same thing. if they cant even distinguish an individuals gender, not that gender matters, why do we put such authority in these peoples hands? i dont know how many times ive blown a 0.000 on a breathazyzer because the cop didnt believe i hadnt been drinking. they depend waaaaaaayyyyyyy too much on their 'toys'; radar guns, breathalyzer, so on and so fourth. what ever happened to people using their common sense to assess the situation instead of relying on a machine that isnt necessarily always correct?

2oodoor
07-19-2007, 09:00 AM
funny, i had a cop tell me the same thing. if they cant even distinguish an individuals gender, not that gender matters, why do we put such authority in these peoples hands? i dont know how many times ive blown a 0.000 on a breathazyzer because the cop didnt believe i hadnt been drinking. they depend waaaaaaayyyyyyy too much on their 'toys'; radar guns, breathalyzer, so on and so fourth. what ever happened to people using their common sense to assess the situation instead of relying on a machine that isnt necessarily always correct?
I think it is the trend that seems to follow every occupation these days, too much training and not enough common sense.
W261 Ludawici is still going last I heard...not with the remote stop light though. A lot of those small towns do a reduction in speed like from 60 , to 35 ,posted signs in a 150 ft. stretch.
Yes truckers still use CB's and now they have some pretty nice ones with matchbox linears and such. You can tell something is up when they are grouped up with traffic lagging behind , if they are oncoming interstate. You really just need to be alert like watching the crows/squirrels in the woods, so to speak. A lot of the trucks have GPS systems though too that alert the supervisors when they are breaking the speed limiit. Also look for other cars using radar detectors... ha ha in Virginia they have radar detector dectectors and they will bust your ass if they catch you with one.

BITESIZE
07-19-2007, 09:04 AM
I simply just don't speed anymore.

Blkblurr
07-20-2007, 05:56 AM
I wouldn't waste my money and hopes on one. The best way is to pay attention to what's happening in front of you. Look for brake lights or headlights that people flash at you. I also look carefully in my rear view mirror when getting up onto the interstate for cops behind me. I pay attention to what's in the median or on the side of the road. I live in Ohio where the state symbol is the highway patrol car giving someone a ticket.

2oodoor
07-20-2007, 07:05 AM
Ohio state symbol, that is funnny funny stuff there... lol

I think MH , according to info his post in another thread, is just fond of hitting triple digits on the commute, thus needs countermeasure sonar..

MessyHonda
07-20-2007, 11:27 AM
Ohio state symbol, that is funnny funny stuff there... lol
I think MH , according to info his post in another thread, is just fond of hitting triple digits on the commute, thus needs countermeasure sonar..




sorry to say that guys... but yeah im a speed adict....and its not during commute.....it was 2:30am like i said i need to show you guys some vids of my 4th gear pull to 120mph.

evil88accordLX
07-20-2007, 11:36 AM
sorry to say that guys... but yeah im a speed adict....and its not during commute.....it was 2:30am like i said i need to show you guys some vids of my 4th gear pull to 120mph.
man you gotta watch that. less cars on road = easier to find speeders
120mph ticket = lost license
120mph accident = DEATH

DBMaster
07-20-2007, 11:42 AM
The last time I used a radar detector was around 1993. I am sure that the newer ones reject false signals better than the older ones, but I had the top rated Uniden detector from 1992 and it still gave so many false alarms that it was more annoying than helpful. Around here there are so many bozos driving much faster than me on the highway I just move over, let them pass me, and don't worry too much. I get passed like I am standing still when I am on road trips and I am usually driving 75-80.

If I were to have an electronic do-dad now it would have to be a remote control like the police and fire trucks have that make the traffic lights change for you. There are plans on ihacked.com. I know that it's higly illegal, but how would you really get caught if you were discreet? I spend far too much time stuck at stop lights these days to ever be able to make it up by driving 100 on the highway.

MessyHonda
07-20-2007, 11:51 AM
man you gotta watch that. less cars on road = easier to find speeders
120mph ticket = lost license
120mph accident = DEATH



if you look at my brake and suspension thread you know why i do it...plus my friend in his 95 corolla said my car could not go 95....showed him wrong...

ChaseR
07-20-2007, 12:19 PM
using radar detectors... ha ha in Virginia they have radar detector dectectors and they will bust your ass if they catch you with one.


this is called VG2, If this comes up on your RD and your does not "cloak" itself immediatly turn it off without hesitation.

evil88accordLX
07-20-2007, 12:56 PM
if you look at my brake and suspension thread you know why i do it...plus my friend in his 95 corolla said my car could not go 95....showed him wrong...
brakes, suspension, boost, NOS, late for work, shit talking friends, yadda yadda yadda....none of these are excuses for doing 120mph on a public road. and its exactly that, public. even if your car is set up to pull 2g's on a skid pad and can stop on a dime and pick it up, that doesnt mean the lady in the minivan talking on her cell phone is paying attantion to you. look at what happened to lostforawhile's relative. dead. why? someone speeding. if you want to go fast, go to a track.

MessyHonda
07-20-2007, 01:14 PM
brakes, suspension, boost, NOS, late for work, shit talking friends, yadda yadda yadda....none of these are excuses for doing 120mph on a public road. and its exactly that, public. even if your car is set up to pull 2g's on a skid pad and can stop on a dime and pick it up, that doesnt mean the lady in the minivan talking on her cell phone is paying attantion to you. look at what happened to lostforawhile's relative. dead. why? someone speeding. if you want to go fast, go to a track.



i dont speed on the streets....at that time of night its empty i only passed like 4 cars the whole time...and yes im a target since you can see im a speeder. on school zones i slow down to 20mph....i would go to the track but 1/4th mile is not my thing.

evil88accordLX
07-20-2007, 01:25 PM
i thought you cali guys have buttonwillow, or whatever its called. ive been involved in 3 accidents in 14 years of driving. one was do to weather, the other two were from other drivers not paying attention. im not telling you how to drive or anything, just be careful. its the people who have adgendas other than driving while in their cars that could be your demise.

MessyHonda
07-20-2007, 01:34 PM
i thought you cali guys have buttonwillow, or whatever its called. ive been involved in 3 accidents in 14 years of driving. one was do to weather, the other two were from other drivers not paying attention. im not telling you how to drive or anything, just be careful. its the people who have adgendas other than driving while in their cars that could be your demise.



i understand....thanks for the tip....i think i already got it out of my system. plus gas prices are high...lol 3.20 a gal over here.

evil88accordLX
07-20-2007, 01:38 PM
about the same here. i filled up the car monday and it cost like $45.

snoopyloopy
07-20-2007, 06:59 PM
i understand....thanks for the tip....i think i already got it out of my system. plus gas prices are high...lol 3.20 a gal over here.
poor baby. we're down to $2.97 or so. that's the cheapest i've seen.

88Accord-DX
07-20-2007, 07:09 PM
I just need to post in every thread for my post count. :wtf:

MessyHonda
07-21-2007, 01:20 AM
I just need to post in every thread for my post count. :wtf:



ok Dereck? i guess my foundation membership ran out today....

2oodoor
07-21-2007, 02:56 AM
The last time I used a radar detector was around 1993. I am sure that the newer ones reject false signals better than the older ones, .

funny thing now is there are like ten times more false signals, every pcs or cell tower sets them off at as much as a mile to half mile away.

As far as going 100 plus mph , I do it once in a while but only there for a second. The times I have are when I have already passed some riff raff traffic or rock slinging agrigate trucks and or getting out of harms way, already going 90 so I say wtf run it on up just a second, then back to 70-75 .I cant see barreling down the highway at those speeds for minutes at a time, that would be insane. I would not do it with anybody else in the car either.

Blkblurr
07-21-2007, 05:19 AM
I got gas yesterday for $2.55 for 87 octane

AccordEpicenter
07-21-2007, 07:32 AM
funny thing now is there are like ten times more false signals, every pcs or cell tower sets them off at as much as a mile to half mile away.
As far as going 100 plus mph , I do it once in a while but only there for a second. The times I have are when I have already passed some riff raff traffic or rock slinging agrigate trucks and or getting out of harms way, already going 90 so I say wtf run it on up just a second, then back to 70-75 .I cant see barreling down the highway at those speeds for minutes at a time, that would be insane. I would not do it with anybody else in the car either.

Idk the passport 8500 x50 seems to stay pretty quiet. It only falses once in a while but i have x band disabled.

che3wy
07-23-2007, 07:32 PM
the best one is the valentine one.

Secondaries
07-30-2007, 09:15 PM
funny thing now is there are like ten times more false signals, every pcs or cell tower sets them off at as much as a mile to half mile away.
As far as going 100 plus mph , I do it once in a while but only there for a second. The times I have are when I have already passed some riff raff traffic or rock slinging agrigate trucks and or getting out of harms way, already going 90 so I say wtf run it on up just a second, then back to 70-75 .I cant see barreling down the highway at those speeds for minutes at a time, that would be insane. I would not do it with anybody else in the car either.
It's not that bad in rural areas of an interstate or other large road. When I used to commute from Houston to College Station to visit my ex, the average vehicle was going 85, so me doing 90-100 was small fries. Once, I got on the road in College Station and floored it all the way to Houston. 110 all the way, made the trip in 50 minutes (1.5-2hr drive normally). Really wasn't very problematic. No cops and slow traffic (below 80 lol) stayed in the right lane. I even got passed a few times. This was in my old '89 Civic STD four speed. That thing was slow so 110 felt like hauling major ass lol.
But I agree. In urban areas like major cities, I usually stick close to the speed limit. On 60mph freeways, my personal limit is 70. Yeah, I'll do a buck every now and then but never in traffic and never in unsafe weather.
On a sidenote, gas just dropped to $2.45 down the street from where I live. Texas rocks =).

KWoodRacer
03-09-2008, 02:05 PM
No good radar detector is cheap. Youre pretty much wasting your time with anything less than a high end bel, escort or V1... nothing else works all that great. Ive owned cobras and stuff like that before, absolutely no comparison. And yes, laser detectors are pretty much worthless, once the detector goes off, they already know how fast your going, so you have practically no chance even with the best one. You have a shot against K and KA radar with one (nobody i know still uses X band) with a good detector, but the best idea is to not speed very much when you are the only car on the road etc, use your head. I try not to speed unless im in traffic. Also ive seen alot of instant on action from cops using K and KA radar lately so you really gotta be careful even with a detector.

edit: I use an escort passport 8500 X50

The only thing I use my cobra for is to tell me how many cops are in my area, be smart and slow down once the blip goes off.

2ndGenGuy
03-09-2008, 03:05 PM
My V1 has picked up reflections of laser before. Once in a while you get em when you're in traffic and the cop isn't shooting from an ideal angle. It can save your ass pretty good still. But the ultimate looks to me to get a Laser Pro Park jammer in combination with the V1. From what I've seen that jammer pretty much stops any laser speed detection device flawlessly. Gives you enough time to slow down then disable so they get a nice reading under the speed limit. :D

cubert
03-09-2008, 04:20 PM
I just need to post in every thread for my post count. :wtf:


lmao...

KWoodRacer
03-09-2008, 04:53 PM
My V1 has picked up reflections of laser before. Once in a while you get em when you're in traffic and the cop isn't shooting from an ideal angle. It can save your ass pretty good still. But the ultimate looks to me to get a Laser Pro Park jammer in combination with the V1. From what I've seen that jammer pretty much stops any laser speed detection device flawlessly. Gives you enough time to slow down then disable so they get a nice reading under the speed limit. :D


How much would that jammer and a V1 cost?