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MessyHonda
10-06-2007, 12:12 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Messybone/LX-i/DSCF3094.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Messybone/LX-i/DSCF3098.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Messybone/LX-i/DSCF3101.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Messybone/LX-i/DSCF3100.jpg pacesetter ceramic coated headers with O2 bong for obd1 tunning goodness and stock flex pipe cuz the guy wanted 200 bucks to install a 2.25 flex and welded to the cat so thats why i told him to use my old stock one...it flows fine.....it revs up a whole lot smoother in the RPM range.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Messybone/LX-i/DSCF3095.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Messybone/LX-i/DSCF3097.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Messybone/LX-i/DSCF3103.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Messybone/LX-i/DSCF3104.jpg

il get more detailed pic for the write up he did on here.
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62375

thanks to Anthony he is a lifesaver...it did not hurt to ask him because now we have a somewhat better detailed information for obd1 swap for the guys that plan to run turbo. im going to stay NA...for...now...you never know what i might come up with...:evil:

Civic Accord Honda
10-06-2007, 12:43 PM
nice very very nice

mushroom_toy
10-06-2007, 01:04 PM
Nice. Looks so much better without the vac. lines.!

russiankid
10-06-2007, 01:49 PM
Looks good. Get some vids with the new header.

labeledsk8r
10-06-2007, 02:49 PM
YAY my header lives on!! crap i didnt even think about you haveing to add the 02sensor for the obd1 swap, looks hella good man, how do you like the feel of them?

knarg
10-06-2007, 03:03 PM
lookin good jesse, can't wait to do my dc header and exhaust setup

TWOLOUDNPROUD
10-06-2007, 03:37 PM
sWEEt

Cheeseburger
10-06-2007, 03:53 PM
sWEEt



took the words right out of my mouth lol looks good kid ;)

EricW
10-06-2007, 05:11 PM
time to get rid of some of those extra vacuum lines and a few other parts if you can still pass inspection with them removed. no more black box, and egr are the biggest parts, and maybe the metal vacuum lines.

Pico
10-06-2007, 05:47 PM
Looks good Jesse :thumbup: Congrats

frantik
10-06-2007, 05:52 PM
:thumbup:

snoopyloopy
10-06-2007, 07:21 PM
oh shit oh shit son! :thumbup:

MessyHonda
10-07-2007, 12:10 AM
time to get rid of some of those extra vacuum lines and a few other parts if you can still pass inspection with them removed. no more black box, and egr are the biggest parts, and maybe the metal vacuum lines.



yes...it was nice talking to you.....some tips and pics of your set up would be nice. i will remove them after i get it all tuned out.

LX-incredible
10-07-2007, 07:57 AM
Nice work!

MessyHonda
10-17-2007, 02:39 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Messybone/LX-i/DSCF3109Small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Messybone/LX-i/DSCF3110Small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Messybone/LX-i/DSCF3112Small.jpg

Civic Accord Honda
10-17-2007, 03:06 PM
Looks Fucking Awesome

2ndGenGuy
10-17-2007, 03:31 PM
Beautiful! Did you get it dyno-tuned yet?

MessyHonda
10-17-2007, 11:27 PM
Beautiful! Did you get it dyno-tuned yet?




well i just got rid of my black box...it was fun taking it out. its not dyno tuned because i want to install the cam and the skunk2 mani on it. it should be putting out around 120-130whp by then.


i did go to the free dyno run and it made 112whp and 115lbs of torque.

forrest89sei
10-17-2007, 11:36 PM
Looks Great!

2ndGenGuy
10-17-2007, 11:50 PM
well i just got rid of my black box...it was fun taking it out. its not dyno tuned because i want to install the cam and the skunk2 mani on it. it should be putting out around 120-130whp by then.


i did go to the free dyno run and it made 112whp and 115lbs of torque.

Are you revving it to 7500RPM on the dyno? Cos that's where that cam makes it's power! It will be pretty kick ass to see that, and I bet it pulls nicely. I'd expect to see closer to 130whp, assuming your torque curve stays consistent when it shifts up.

MessyHonda
10-18-2007, 12:13 AM
Are you revving it to 7500RPM on the dyno? Cos that's where that cam makes it's power! It will be pretty kick ass to see that, and I bet it pulls nicely. I'd expect to see closer to 130whp, assuming your torque curve stays consistent when it shifts up.



the poor engine wont go over 6500....but that is where the obd1 swap comes in i can get it tuned for low even even with the cam and once i hit like 3500RPM it should take off...and murder civics.

labeledsk8r
10-18-2007, 12:18 AM
the poor engine wont go over 6500....but that is where the obd1 swap comes in i can get it tuned for low even even with the cam and once i hit like 3500RPM it should take off...and murder civics.

lol 3rd gen accords can kill most civics i have raced with minor bolt ons lol time to up your game

AccordB20A
10-18-2007, 12:36 AM
thats some pretty damn cool shit ya kno. whats the ECU out of. Funny. i recently learnt what this OBD shit meant and i also just learnt that your a20as had vacuum advance. man i thought u guys wuda had the same efi as a b20a but boy was i wrong.

MessyHonda
10-18-2007, 12:45 AM
lol 3rd gen accords can kill most civics i have raced with minor bolt ons lol time to up your game




yeah....im planing on taking out my subs.....so it will be faster i hope....i also plan to lose the AC so that is like 100 pounds right there.

labeledsk8r
10-18-2007, 12:52 AM
yeah....im planing on taking out my subs.....so it will be faster i hope....i also plan to lose the AC so that is like 100 pounds right there.

belive it or not but you feel the diff when you drop AC, car feels nimbler, and seems to keep the engine a bit cooler 2 with more air flow in the engine bay and stuff, less weight benifits every aspect of the car so whens the cam and mani going in?

Bones
10-18-2007, 03:24 PM
:bow: Looks way cool Messy!

Yer ride is always classy lookin' though. :thumbup:

Civic Accord Honda
10-18-2007, 03:45 PM
belive it or not but you feel the diff when you drop AC, car feels nimbler, and seems to keep the engine a bit cooler 2 with more air flow in the engine bay and stuff, less weight benifits every aspect of the car so whens the cam and mani going in?
yeah when my ac was removed it helped alot also the power steering removal helped

BITESIZE
10-18-2007, 04:05 PM
Messy you should a detailed how to for me. I want to do this.

89T
10-18-2007, 04:54 PM
yeah....im planing on taking out my subs.....so it will be faster i hope....i also plan to lose the AC so that is like 100 pounds right there.
good job! but you dont sound so happy about it.
you know to stay n/a there is alot to getting good hp numbers like high compression fully built head,lighten everything from conecting rods to lighter wheels.
i wasn't happy with my numbers either i was hoping for atleast another 50hp more than what i got.

i never asked you what you'r goals are, so what are they?

2ndGenGuy
10-18-2007, 07:38 PM
Messy, you should change your name to "NotSoMessyHonda" cos your car is lookin' good man! :)

BITESIZE
10-18-2007, 07:52 PM
Messy, you should change your name to "NotSoMessyHonda" cos your car is lookin' good man! :)

Don't judge a book by it's cover. Messy, a name is a legend. From the words of Joe Dirt. Keep on keepn on!

snoopyloopy
10-18-2007, 08:26 PM
the poor engine wont go over 6500....but that is where the obd1 swap comes in i can get it tuned for low even even with the cam and once i hit like 3500RPM it should take off...and murder civics.

acg ftw? you can use it to adjust the efficiency range of the cam in conjunction w/ the ecu tuning. but i'm sure you knew that already. :) but anyways, looks great. i might just say screw the egr on my dc headers, get an o2 bung welded on, and go to town w/ an obd1 swap on my car too. you got me all inspired.

MessyHonda
10-19-2007, 11:01 PM
ok....today we installed the Colt tri-flo stage 2 cam and dyno tuned the car. it runs fine. and the idle on it is good. its at like 800rpm

AccordB20A
10-19-2007, 11:15 PM
wherever the name messyhonda came from lol.

now u will have to redyno and see how much power that things got

rudeludenotmean
10-20-2007, 11:55 AM
the engine hits a wall (cut) at 6400 and wont rev any higher .... don't know why .... Its not in the tune ... grrrr.

at 5800 the cam REALLY starts to take off, but shortly there after, the engines falls on its fac for some reason ... gotta trouble shoot this one.

MessyHonda
10-20-2007, 04:45 PM
the engine hits a wall (cut) at 6400 and wont rev any higher .... don't know why .... Its not in the tune ... grrrr.

at 5800 the cam REALLY starts to take off, but shortly there after, the engines falls on its fac for some reason ... gotta trouble shoot this one.



for some reason it worked on the freeway...reved it up to 7k at WOT.. in 3rd gear...i got up to 90 quick

Civic Accord Honda
10-20-2007, 05:07 PM
mine has gone to 7K :D

EricW
10-21-2007, 01:39 PM
I set my rev limit at 6800, since the motor isn't built to go much higher than that with out modifications to the valve train to keep the valves from floating. I would just use a adjustable cam gear and advance it 2 to 4 degrees to pull the power band down to a more usable range. You won't have as much horse power but you'll gain torque which will make the car a little funner to drive.

'A20A3'
10-24-2007, 07:26 AM
there's gotta be a way to do this without drilling a damn thing, and i'm gonna figure it out

sb_hbackDX
10-24-2007, 04:57 PM
Why not try EDIS w/ MS? :thumbup: Thats what I'm going with for my EFI setup...

MessyHonda
10-25-2007, 12:38 AM
Why not try EDIS w/ MS? :thumbup: Thats what I'm going with for my EFI setup...



because alot of people talk about they want to do and never get stuff done. im not saying you wont do it but even this swap is an improvement over the stock set up. i got my car to idle even with a stage 2 cam in it. and im still getting 25mpg....only thing its on premium.




THIS SWAP IS NOT HARD all you have to do is get the parts and use some brain power to install it.

rudeludenotmean
10-26-2007, 04:49 PM
I concur ... haha

'A20A3'
11-02-2007, 07:37 AM
what tuning system are you running Messy? Hondata?

gfrg88
11-02-2007, 09:06 AM
DAMN BROTHA!!! your car has come a LONG way from the last time i saw it on here!!! Good job bro... wat r u using?? CROME ftw!!!

MessyHonda
11-02-2007, 10:23 AM
the MessyHonda is Crome dyno tuned



by TSTP

2oodoor
11-02-2007, 02:24 PM
because alot of people talk about they want to do and never get stuff done. im not saying you wont do it but even this swap is an improvement over the stock set up. i got my car to idle even with a stage 2 cam in it. and im still getting 25mpg....only thing its on premium.




THIS SWAP IS NOT HARD all you have to do is get the parts and use some brain power to install it.

that is an amazing comment coming from you, you used to sit on all these parts and never got stuff done. You have come a long way in the past year. but now your like all giddy and shit, my car this my car that.. it is just funny to watch how stealth you seem to act about it then turn around and swoon about it.
Sorry to call out, no disrespect intended... my point is your car is really REALLY coming together and you are cheesing it up, rightfully so, because I would be excited about it too if my car was morphing that quickley.:thumbup:

thegreatdane
02-21-2008, 12:30 PM
NUMBERS aND GRAPHS!!!!! :D