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TWOLOUDNPROUD
12-29-2007, 10:52 PM
http://www.extrudabody.biz/catalog/Honda%20B1800%20Full%20Kit.JPG

http://www.extrudabody.biz/servlet/the-187/KIT-cln--Honda-B16-VTEC/Detail

Cheeseburger
12-29-2007, 11:08 PM
how about this?

http://www.sportcarmotion.com/image/toda%20racing%20b%20series%20itb.jpg

A18A
12-29-2007, 11:50 PM
$1200 :jaw:

google ftw http://www.homemadeturbo.com/tech_projects/itb/

stat1K
01-02-2008, 05:40 PM
took a look and? it's itb's so? and 1200 is not that much for a setup like that... i mean sure you'd spend less building one but for the shear convenience alone it's worth at least half that lol.

2ndGenGuy
01-02-2008, 06:24 PM
Those first ones look like they've got the same mounting flanges as a pair of DCOE Weber carbs. If you can get a manifold made for the A20, I'm sure that a lot of ITB setups would work.

stat1K
01-02-2008, 07:56 PM
well if b-series intakes can be adapted i don't see why these wouldn't be next?

cygnus x-1
01-02-2008, 10:45 PM
According (no pun intended) to Extrudabody's website they get their manifolds from Rowland Manifolds. And look, they make a manifold for Webers; Yay!

http://www.manifolds.co.za/honda.htm

And since the B18 port pattern is close enough to the A20 we now have a manifold for Webers. Woohoo!

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A20A1
01-03-2008, 10:35 AM
Their has been B18 and B16 DCOE manifolds on the market for a while but we can't use them for carbs because they don't take into account the tilt of the A20.

2oodoor
01-03-2008, 11:18 AM
I have been seeing some DCOE 40's on ebay from bug engines lately If I can get them for reasonable I will, and I will need manifolds but plan on making them if need be.
I know air filtration will be a pain, most set ups I have seen run naked cuz they are right up on the firewall with the air horns.
And it was good to see 2007 update on that website cygnus, so B16 set will work on A20 right?

edit, oops, A20A1 is that still the deal?

2ndGenGuy
01-03-2008, 12:45 PM
I have been seeing some DCOE 40's on ebay from bug engines lately If I can get them for reasonable I will, and I will need manifolds but plan on making them if need be.
I know air filtration will be a pain, most set ups I have seen run naked cuz they are right up on the firewall with the air horns.
And it was good to see 2007 update on that website cygnus, so B16 set will work on A20 right?

edit, oops, A20A1 is that still the deal?

The air filtration shouldn't be a huge deal on the 3g Accord. I have an A20 DCOE manifold that I had made. I did the measuring on the 2g Accord engine bay and the only problem for us is the brake booster. DCOEs will clear the brake booster with a short manifold (1-1/2 inch long runners) using air cleaners. I don't think this is even an issue on the 3rd gens. Not only is your engine bay larger, but your brake booster is a bit more out of the way...

cygnus x-1
01-03-2008, 07:04 PM
Their has been B18 and B16 DCOE manifolds on the market for a while but we can't use them for carbs because they don't take into account the tilt of the A20.

Yeah, I had kinda forgotten about that. Except I don't think this applies to all B series manifolds. I mean I have a B18A1 intake on my A20 right now. In my case I did have to cut a hole in the hood because I have a 2g Prelude, which has a lower hood line. Another inch or so and it would have cleared. I know this has been gone over before but I forget the specifics. Let me dig around a bit.

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A20A1
01-03-2008, 07:30 PM
The manifold + Carb hitting the hood is not the problem its the carb that needs to sit at the correct angle because of the float bowl inside.

The B18 Manifold for the DCOE has the correct angle built in for vertical ports of the B18 motor while our motor tilts about 15 degrees.
So if we use the B18 Manifold we'll have whatever the tilt of the B18 manifold is + 15 degrees extra tilt from our motor causing the carbs to sit at the wrong angle, that was the problem with using the manifold in the past.

For EFI you have no float so the angle isn't an issue.

cygnus x-1
01-03-2008, 08:27 PM
The manifold + Carb hitting the hood is not the problem its the carb that needs to sit at the correct angle because of the float bowl inside.


Ahh, yes. That's right. DOH! Been away from the carb scene for awhile. Starting to forget all those little details.

Still, I wonder if they might be willing to make a DCOE intake for the A20 that has the correct angle.

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Hauntd ca3
01-04-2008, 01:59 AM
just get the flanges cut off and remounted with the right angle on them.
then tidy it up with the old die grinder