AccordB20A's 2.0Si F1 Edition Build

[bullard123]

Empty your pm box Tommy:) I have a question for you:)

[TWOLOUDNPROUD]

Empty your pm box Tommy:) I have a question for you:)

LOL:D I will.

[AccordB20A]

i reckon. i also tried PMing you earler today

and yeah shipping from canada really sucks

[A18A]

have you recieved your camera yet?

[AccordB20A]

no camera yet. gay aye. but winnipeg is looking into it so its all good. if i dont get it ill have to buy another one with the $300 or so its insured for.

as for updates on the car.. no pics but i installed red LEDs into the boot lights on the back of my car and installed blue LEDs into my number plate lights. what a ricer. but LEDs are better on power. i am going to eventually get all my lights done in LED and replace my flasher unit so it doesnt end up flashing too fast lol
I checked my oil yesterday and it was off the bottom of the dipstick? i believe its either leaking out of the valve cover to the head gasket as the blocks black with oil. if it is leaking out the head gaskket how can i fix it? torque the head down more??

[A18A]

even the head lights???

lol on my old car i torqued the head down more to seal it better, dunno how well it worked though

[AccordB20A]

haha yeah well i cannot be fucked ill just keep adding used oil. leaky engines dont get my sympathy Drained the Clean ish looking oil from a honda domani the other day bottled it and put it in my engine since it was empty. good as gold

and no you cant make LED head lights. i wish you could tho.

[AccordB20A]

Today i changed my lower left hand ball joint. only to discover it wasnt the cause of my suspension play. The problem wasnt the upper balljoint or tie rod end. It was the bushes in the upper arm. So i thought.. cool.. what a good time to install these:

http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv240/accordb20a/1-8.jpg
http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv240/accordb20a/2-8.jpg
http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv240/accordb20a/3-8.jpg
http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv240/accordb20a/4-7.jpg

i left them stock as they were on the lude they came off. Since my front konis are shorter and have lowering springs my negative camber feels like it has sorted itself out when i installed these and it seems to steer better now.
I replaced the lower ball joint anyway cause the boot had a hole.... and the pic of the tie rod end ...its boots fucked too so time for some new ones of those aswell.
i has my camera. Im back in buisness!!

[A18A]

now you should post pics with the wheels installed (Y)

[knarg]

nice, looks good

nice koni's too :thumbup:

[AccordB20A]

Thought i would post my dodgy sound system since now i have a camera i can take pics. Since you saw it last time i have installed a 4 X 100w rms amp i got for free with blown power mosfets, $30 and it was fixed:) I know mounting the amps on the sub box is a bad idea but its temporary. look at my dodgy power distribution block, i failed there. but when i get some cash ill rewire it with all new shit and install the amps on the back of the seats.
Front speakers are now some POS random brand that i found in another car. better than nothing i guess. I have my new sub box built. (box design can be found at http://jonno2002.myftp.org/subbox.txt ) its been carefully designed to suit the sub. I have a fuckload more boot spare now that old ugly box is gone!! Anyways here are the pics...

BBUUTT theres no pics :(

[Civic Accord Honda]

sweet! :D

[AccordB20A]

also anyone know what causes this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UZ2rCKLpDo
sometimes when starting my car when its cranking over the pgmfi light will light up and the car will show an error code for a crank sensor. the second LED on the ecu also flashes once. whats that mean. Since it started doing that i have swapped dizzys ecus. Sometimes when starting it up the engine sounds like it seizes up/fires at the wrong time as u can hear in the video when my alarm siren makes a squelling noise cause the starter motor steals all its power and when my alarm gets no power the siren sounds (tamper proof)

The problem is annoying me so badly and i dunno what to do next. I am considering swapping the Whole engine to a blacktop b20a i have lying around

[AccordB20A]

pointless post

[A18A]

yeah it is aye

[AccordB20A]

sound system upgrade with no pics!

[AccordB20A]

lol $50 wheels off a fucked integra

http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv240/accordb20a/1-9.jpg
http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv240/accordb20a/2-9.jpg
http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv240/accordb20a/3-9.jpg
http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv240/accordb20a/4-8.jpg
http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv240/accordb20a/5-5.jpg

[Cheeseburger]

looking good!

[A18A]

looking good!

[forrest89sei]

I like them :D

[Hauntd ca3]

lookin good dude

[AccordB20A]

thanks. i think it also looks good. More mods to come :)

[Tomisimo]

Sweet.. now You'll need some low profile tires on those wheels.. those looks like 55 or 60 to me..

Keep up the good work !

[2ndGenGuy]

Sweet wheels. :)

[2oodoor]

nice wheels main !

that starting problem kinda sounds like spark wires, but I dunno why the ecm would pick up on it. If the oil is leaking around the valve cover where the spark plugs are, that could cause some misfires, and shorting spark wires.
May want to look into an injector leaking down too.

[AccordB20A]

nice wheels main !

that starting problem kinda sounds like spark wires, but I dunno why the ecm would pick up on it. If the oil is leaking around the valve cover where the spark plugs are, that could cause some misfires, and shorting spark wires.
May want to look into an injector leaking down too.

the problem has gone away for some reason now. i think its cause the weather has been fine. Usually dopes it on damp days but since its not been raining for a couple of days ive never had any hard starting issues.

leads are new, theres no oil/water down the sparkplug holes. Oh well the weathers packed in again yesterday maybe ill try starting it today and see if the problem is back.

i have another engine to go in real soon. just waiting for payday so i can do it up/shine it/fix it/service it then it can go in.

[2oodoor]

that is odd you said that it does it in rainy weather, that is when secondary ignition problems show up worse. New wires don't always mean they won't leak, or crossfire. Just saying. That could also be in the cap & rotor or coil secondary. Still does not explain ecm reading it, those are seeing fuel, air and emmisions crap.
good luck with the motor swap

[AccordB20A]

that is odd you said that it does it in rainy weather, that is when secondary ignition problems show up worse. New wires don't always mean they won't leak, or crossfire. Just saying. That could also be in the cap & rotor or coil secondary. Still does not explain ecm reading it, those are seeing fuel, air and emmisions crap.
good luck with the motor swap

its the ignition side of the ecu thats showing an error code of 1 or 2. changed dissys changed caps used different leads changed ecu and it still did it.
im hoping its an engine sensor that will get removed when i remvoe the old engine lol

[Civic Accord Honda]

looks nice as! now go paint ur bumper :D and sony speakers ftw

[AccordB20A]

my fuel milage is better. was getting 12-14km liter yesterday to my mates house in the rain

And that ign problem has gone.. just vanished:s

Fuel milage improved when i put the new mags on, how weird is that

[2oodoor]

sounding like an overdose of ethanol now:beer:

[AccordB20A]

Had an epic fail this morning. For Some reason there was pressure buildup in my power steering bottle. I haven't yet installed my cam belt cover and heres what happened. The cap of the power steer fluid both popped off and got entangled with the cam belt/gears

Belts got lots of cuts and brakages....thisis one of them the not worcest

was driving along and i hear this funny screeching noise and the engine lost power and stalled instantly. i rolled to a stop and tryed starting it...hmmmm no compression on a few cylinders and loud backfiring when i cranked it. Laughed at the thort of what the hell the problem could be. opened the bonnet to see nothing wrong but the lid to my power steer missing. then i looked at the cam belt and saw chunks missing and broken bits and freying. i was like fuck now i need a new head. Anyways i had a tool kit in the back so i cranked the engine to TDC with a ratchet, did the same with the cam gears, put the belt back on tightened the tensioner started it up and away it went, running perfect but the belt making flapping noises and it self desitergrates. I slowly drove home. no harm to the engine was done, but im not driving it until i get a new cambelt!!!!

[Hauntd ca3]

thats some pretty interesting cam timing you have going on there eh man!
dam f ing lucky that didnt hurt anything other than a belt

[AccordB20A]

theres a good lesson fgor ya all. run a cambelt cover lol

at least this engine will be coming out soon so no need to replace it ill use my other accord until i put the new motor in

[Hauntd ca3]

tru bout the cover eh
on another subject,how long it take you to strip the old paint of your cam cover b4 u paintd it

[AccordB20A]

i didnt i painted over a gold top which wasnt flaking only fading.

[1ajs]

jesus you pulled a mk3gee lol

[A18A]

damn those front hubs look so cool!

[AccordB20A]

missing my car. lol i want it fixed so i can drive it again.

[AccordB20A]

gots a b16a2 intake to fit!

[2oodoor]

nice manifold you got there
! were you running without a power steering belt too?
indeed an odd serious of events

[A18A]

yeah mint maniofld!

[TWOLOUDNPROUD]

EXCLAIM.. OBTAIN

http://imagehost.wohdog.sytes.net/Uploads/2008-8-1910388b16intake.JPG

another item to be installed before my new motor goes in :)

that the same manifold that i have.

[AccordB20A]

that the same manifold that i have.
Cool. Hope it will be better than stock:)

yeah mint maniofld!
i recon

nice manifold you got there
! were you running without a power steering belt too?
indeed an odd serious of events
i havbe power steering beld its just low on fluid

[2ndGenGuy]

Minter

[AccordB20A]

:D:D:D got some cheap good quality alpine speakers $30

tomorrow ill show you what i spent $365 on

[AccordB20A]

no pics but i pretty much bought a si exclusive parts car and put the engine from it into my car with all new belts and pumps and whistles

[carotman]

Good luck with the swap!

You've got to replace that valve cover!

[2oodoor]

teasing me with the transmission aye?
looks like you will be busy for a while :)

[Hauntd ca3]

you used to be able to buy an alloy cleaning product here that would clean all that oxidisation off .
i think it had caustic soda in it so was pretty nasty to everything else it touched but hell it worked well.
have heard that paint stripper works well tho.
just watch the oil seals in the trans tho

[AccordB20A]

you used to be able to buy an alloy cleaning product here that would clean all that oxidisation off .
i think it had caustic soda in it so was pretty nasty to everything else it touched but hell it worked well.
have heard that paint stripper works well tho.
just watch the oil seals in the trans tho

just planning using some diesel and brushes to clean it up get the filth off it.


teasing me with the transmission aye?
looks like you will be busy for a while :)
buy one from me i have 4 now. $500 shipped

Good luck with the swap!

You've got to replace that valve cover!
Yeah with your mugen one :) Ill put my blue one on it parobably. havent decided to either do thaty or mirror finish the one thats on it.

[MessyHonda]

cool keep the b20 alive

[AccordB20A]

Yup i am. and i have another one spare + box to sell now if anyones interested hahaha

OMG this is like my 3000th post

[A18A]

w0oOT

[AccordB20A]

so matt how did u manage to post at 403PM when the site was down from when i got up (7am) to way past i went to bed (11pm)?!?!?!?!

[2oodoor]

so matt how did u manage to post at 403PM when the site was down from when i got up (7am) to way past i went to bed (11pm)?!?!?!?!

was it yesterday? or this morning.. I saw that earlier and thought wtf how did...
maybe you get more work done on the car if the board is down. yak yak yak:D

[A18A]

io dunno aye i bet its the sites fault cause at 4:03pm yesterday i was eating scrambled eggs & toast

[Civic Accord Honda]

i think its cuz matt is god and can sit at the table and eat and think about posting and it just posts even if the site is down :O

[AccordB20A]

it must have been matts post that fucked the server up.

[AccordB20A]

have got a ecu for ym obd1 swap. its a p27. non vtec

[1ajs]

sweet :)

and mat probly spilt his eggs all over his kb and caused the server to try and commity suicide

[AccordB20A]

Well today i got to work and pulled out the old engine. and installed the new engine. took from 10am to 10pm to get it all done
New engine is in and working and i can use my car again woot woot
pics... nope
got the B16A intake installed. seems to sound like a b16 engine now not a b20. I believe there is an error code for the TPS and its lagging a bit down below so hmm.
Didnt get the h22 honda headers put on as thats a bit too much modification for me alone to pull out
and yes i am on dialup and yes it did take hours to upload the photos.

[MessyHonda]

nice pics

[A18A]

yeah that looks good, looks like you can even boilt rthe bottom nuts on the manifold with all that space, even access the oil filter and coolant lines :D

[russiankid]

SO whats your record time for swapping an engine?

[AccordB20A]

shorter than that . its a lot faster when u have a socket set. and using An engine crane is a lot faster than pulling the axles out and having to put the wheels back on and roll the car out of the way of th endless chain like i did.

I fucked around for ages trying to find a starter motor.

[2oodoor]

good job working on it till the big stuff was done
the manifold looks trick, bigger throttle body?

[AccordB20A]

think the TB is the same size as a B20A. the ecu is telling me that my tps be bung so im going to try using a b20 TB on the b16 intayke

[2ndGenGuy]

Looking good man! Top job swapping out that engine. You guys work fast when it comes to that stuff.

[AccordB20A]

pointless post.

[A18A]

goodies should hook up your window washer hose too (Y)

[AccordB20A]

Probably. but later. Must find a TB with working tps to in stall

[AccordB20A]

the video::::
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEJIPeg6rQI
shitty as hell as cameras dont like videoing at nighttime

[A18A]

cool

[forrest89sei]

Sexy :D

[AccordB20A]

ok im happy now i got the TPS fixed. i get anywhere between 13.4 and 18 km per liter. thats fucking excessive gas milage!!! greater than 30 mpg for the win.
not only is the fuel milage good, the power is nice! i have a feeling the shorter runners of t he b16 intake manifold have moved my power range Upi can plant boot in 4th gear and it will just keep hauling to the rev limiter. the power doesnt drop off around 6 anymore, and the torque has also moved up. the motor smokes a bit but its old and worn so i will not complain!!!!

[AccordB20A]

got the sandblaster out and found a shitload of rust under the rear windscreen. so i proceeded to ficks it

[A18A]

no rust ftw!

[thegreatdane]

I think you have an exhaust leak lol
Funny how it doesnt start at first in the vid hehe :)
Good to get some holes patched up!

[AccordB20A]

I think you have an exhaust leak lol
Funny how it doesnt start at first in the vid hehe :)
Good to get some holes patched up!

cars allways start better when you hook the start motor wire up to the battery terminal.

Lately i have been doing work on the sound system. Replaced that shitty pink amplifier with something a little better.
Ill post pics later as alexs server/internet is fucking up and i cant seem to get to my image host

[AccordB20A]

no picsszxxs

[Civic Accord Honda]

looks rather good (Y)! just get a matching rear bumper ffs :P

[AccordB20A]

got a bumper lined up this weekend i hope lol $30 bucks has a small crack but it beats white

[A18A]

Minnnnnnttttttttt

[AccordB20A]

Should really work on making those rear Koni shocks fit soon so i can have handling. not to mension upgraded swaybars

[Tomisimo]

Progress goes really well I see, Nice jop on the engine.

[HondaSi88]

nice lookin car! from when u got it to now its like day and night!

[AccordB20A]

yeah. but the motor is gay and smokes hard. revlimited it the other day outside a mates house (our way of saying hi) and the amount of blue smoke that came out was so bad i couldnt see the car behind for s few seconds

[AccordB20A]

Right well FINALLY i have a grey bumper, the black mouldings that should be black are grey so its going to need a good tidy up, but its better than a white one.

[A18A]

amazing how much better it looks with a grey one. i think a facelift accord with prefacelift bootlid & tail lights looks the best

[AccordB20A]

eg my car looks the best

[Hazwan]

Looking good :)

[A18A]

eg my car looks the best

when you get it 100% mint, then id agree with you :)

[chowder]

tilty honda logo nice

[codyJDM]

Is the hitch whats making your rear bumper kinked in the middle?

Looks good man, I love the wheels :thumbup:

[Civic Accord Honda]

when you get it 100% mint, then id agree with you :)
i agrree with lord matt k

[AccordB20A]

Is the hitch whats making your rear bumper kinked in the middle?

Looks good man, I love the wheels :thumbup:
yeah i dont understand why it makes the bumper cack like that. the towbar came off a car with a facelift bumper. ill have to gut a notch in it.

Im down to two wheels again as the front ones are now bald

[MessyHonda]

not bad...i need a photo shoot too

[AccordB20A]

i need to go over that bumper and make the black trim black again, its grey currently and looks gay and theres a lot of aligning that needs doing as the whole car has sags and warps all over it from neglect.

[A18A]

its rare finding a accord that doesnt have any problems with bumpers :thumbdn: i'm glad i finally have my a mint rear bumper :D

[AccordB20A]

mine will be when im done, i think im going to have to purchase some touch ip paint and tidy the shabbyness up a little bit.

[AccordB20A]

FUCKKERRRR my motos deciding it wants to be gay on gas and give me 12km a liter, thats stock milage ffs... epic fail i want my 16km a liter back, Oh well

the ol b20a is also losing power and smoking more and more so i think im going to need to replace it soon.

[Hauntd ca3]

hows the avenger goin?

[AccordB20A]

ok the motor is now using like 1 liter of oil for every 8-10 liters of fuel, getting quite bad. Its WOF expires on the 14th so i guess ill drive it till it runs out of oil/wof expires then convert my gfs car to manual and drive that.

Im also hoping its just the rings in the motor making it smoke so bad, if it is and the head is allright ill be thinking of putting the head onto the b18 block i have and using the b20 EFI on the B18A motor in my accord and see how that goes until the new motors rebuilt.

[AccordB20A]

ok the motor is now using like 1 liter of oil for every 8-10 liters of fuel, getting quite bad. Its WOF expires on the 14th so i guess ill drive it till it runs out of oil/wof expires then convert my gfs car to manual and drive that.

Im also hoping its just the rings in the motor making it smoke so bad, if it is and the head is allright ill be thinking of putting the head onto the b18 block i have and using the b20 EFI on the B18A motor in my accord and see how that goes until the new motors rebuilt.

[A18A]

nay!!!

[2oodoor]

sorry to hear that, don't give up on it!



I see the double post, the board must have been doing that cuz I had the same type issues, couldnt post about that same time.

[AccordB20A]

i only clicked post ocne too, thats really really funny, didnt notice it double posted, what a fag haha

[Pico]

I completely missed seeing this thread.
You've done alot of work to the car. Looks Good

[AccordB20A]

heres an update, Its sitting in the shed not being used, Under the car is a huge puddle of oil, im guessing the motor has no oil in it anymore cause it all leaked out the failing sump drain plug....

[bodyarmour]

hey mate nice vigor....shame bout the leak but thats pretty normal for an old car..just a quick q..are the front and rear sway bars bigger than the normal accords? anychance of gettin pics? just wondering as there is one at the jy and i probly wont have time to go look for a while..i think someones beat me to the front bar but if the rear is bigger i shall grab it...if you look at my thread in the suspension section i gave a flick of the 4g wagon rear to compare to...

[Hauntd ca3]

thats prob where your oil useage is.
is the sump plug thread stuffed?
good old thred tape works, or a new washer

[A18A]

you should just stick in another motor :)

[AccordB20A]

The oil leaks as well as burns it lol
Im looking threw my shed to find a used but still good B20A head gasket, I know i have one, I want to put a B20A head onto my B18A block and run a injected a18 ecu that i can borrow see if i can gets some good gas milages :)

[AccordB20A]

This forum software sucks for dial up, it ALLWAYS doubleposts

[AccordB20A]

pointless post with no pics

[AccordB20A]

as asome of you know i have a honda B18A block lying around, Basically a destroked B20A, Sicne i have no spare B20A engines lying around to put in my car and the motor in my cars fucked i pulled the old smokey blacktop b20a out, can you say fucked rings??...

Also, this engine has been fucked with.... why has it got PK2 pistons??? i also notice they dish downwards so they must be a lower compression.. Can anyone else confirm this.. i know its a blacktop but its an accord blacktop so it still should be ph3 not pk2. maybe thats why this motors totally fucked, i bet it was rebuilt with non oem honda bearings, thats probably why it rattles down there.

[AccordB20A]

Anyways i put the head off that fucked blacktop motor onto the b18. I belive its not the valve stem /seals making the engine smoke as the head looks like its in good condition.

It runs on all 4 cylinders roughly, but i dont want to thrash it until ive sorted its oil and cooling system out, I might run it on a 1600 ECU and see what happens

[bullard123]

Wow that was quick. Good job on the motor mount too

[AccordB20A]

Wow that was quick. Good job on the motor mount too

Mounts damn hory looking but those were the only botls i got long enough.


Also i noticed all b20 pistons ph3 or pk2 have that down dish, but i noted the b18 has no dish so the b18 must be a higher compression engine, sounds good to me, theres an upgrade for any b20a, Use b18A pistons

[2oodoor]

^^^good to know!
I notice that once you get on something you stay on it till you reach a fucked point and no sooner LOL.. an admirable trait.
That smokey B20, wtf running vegatable oil in it? combustion area looks like a well used iron skillet.

[carotman]

My Blacktop had PK2 pistons in it. I can even take a picture if you want. They looked the same as the ones in your pictures.

Maybe we found out why the blacktops supposedly made less power => Lower compression ratio!

We can see that the B18A pistons are totally flat too.

I'm glad I installed Type-R Pistons in my blacktop, they have a nice bump on them :D

[bullard123]

Mounts damn hory looking but those were the only botls i got long enough.


Also i noticed all b20 pistons ph3 or pk2 have that down dish, but i noted the b18 has no dish so the b18 must be a higher compression engine, sounds good to me, theres an upgrade for any b20a, Use b18A pistons

Thats definately great to know. Did you notice more power while driving it? I wonder if this means that B20A or B18A pistons will make a nice upgrade for the B20A5 ludes?

[thegreatdane]

Nice, B18A engines are cool :)

The last time I looked, the B20A goldtop pistons were dished as well.
The blacktops have only slightly lower compression as they are 9,4:1. Goldtops are 9,5:1.

[AccordB20A]

Yes the gold top b20a pistons are dished aswell i noticed later when i went in the shed and looked in my piston pile.
So when ordering new pistons from japan look out for some PH5 if you cant locate some b series ones. I wonder how much the b18a's compression is higher than the b20a's

Anyways project isnt over yet, the motor still doesnt run its greatest due to the 2.0 ecu, my mate had a old a18a efi ecu that im going to try borrow, ill install that with some civic zc injection components and vac advance and see what happens when i finish installing the axles in the car and find some oil. looking forward to taking it out on the road and seeing what its going to do :)

[carotman]

Just run it with an OBD0 PR4

[AccordB20A]

this is going on hold for a while until i can sell the other accord i just bought.
then ill buy a new head gasket for it and prolly tune my obd1 ecu to run a 1.8 engine

[carotman]

Well, if you use the PR4, it's already tuned for that exact same engine (well almost)

I don't think you guys got the OBD0 PR4 tough.

[AccordB20A]

im guessing that ECU is for a b18a1 or something, In that case yeah ive never seen one they are rare, just like a OBD1 dizzy that will fit a b20a

[carotman]

Yup, OBD0 B18A1

BTW, any OBD2 dizzy from a Non-Vtec B series Engine will fit our B20A for an OBD1 conversion.

[AccordB20A]

indeed but currently the oem dizzy seems to be working

[AccordB20A]

heres some pics, this car has been in the shed for a month but last night i got it out and put the axles in it. The B18A engine in it is still requiring its head gasket replaced but it runs for now i basically only put the axles so i can move it around the yard and give it a wash::
pics are dead..

would be good photos if my brand new camera would work

[AccordB20A]

guess what. its TIME FOR AN UPDATE, but since my image server is down for maintenance there will be no working pics.

right, im borrowing a motor to stick in my car until my new engine is built, My mate has two spare B20A engines, one he bought from a guy that he had rebuilt, and the other one our of a prelude he just bought for parts. i dont know what one to use, the rebuilt one would be nice lol

Either way i want me car to be going by tomorrow so i can use it instead of this automatic b20a vigor im driving now that belongs to my mate, He will be able to have it back and fix it up to sell.

Ill put on some pics when im done

MAN its going to be so good to have my car back again :D:D:D:D:d i wanna go do it now just for the pleasure of driving it haha

[AccordB20A]

well the good and the bad... good.. i got motor and box in the car last night, all went fine started mint, just when we thought my mates rebuilt b20a was good, we installed the radiator and found some fail

Water leakage between the head and the block

[1ajs]

:slap:

thats a cack if i ever saw one esay fix though

[AccordB20A]

i have reused a gasket i had lieing around, it seems to be working, good compression no smoking and it doesnt use any water. i drained out the milky oil, i think the oil was milky from all the water that went into the oil when i removed the head

now i have a new ploblem to fix, sump plug is fucked. some ass decided to overtighten the bolt and fail the thread. im fucked if i know what im going to do about it grrrr i dont want to change the sump!!

[2ndGenGuy]

Fuck man. They installed the gasket upside down? How do you not notice that shit? Looks like a pretty obvious error to me. And yeah, that milky oil is due to the water in it. Don't run it if at all possible, it can eat up your bearings. Even a second oil change would be advised, because there was prolly still milky oil in the bearings after you changed it.

Glad its going though, can't wait to see your performance rebuild get going! What do you have left? Just missing a bearing and thrust washer?

[AccordB20A]

yeah and a set of rings for the b16 pistons. wish someone copuld send me some of those for free lol

this mnotor has sorted tis shit out, swapped the milky oil and out new shit in and its clean, holds water and doesnt overheat anymore so looks like the head gasket swap was a winner, been driving it around today, Cant cain it cause i am unsure of wether the engine is run in yet, so anyways its going to get run in again k thx.

[thegreatdane]

looool that's just plain stupid

[AccordB20A]

When i get my motor built whats the best way to run it in guys??

[2ndGenGuy]

After lots of research here's my opinion.

1) Do NOT use synthetic to start.
2) Use the same weight of oil you plan on running in the car.
3) Idle it for 15 minutes at 2,000RPM. (This breaks in bearings and cam)
4) Drive it normally (not hard but not like grandma) for the first 500-1000 miles or equivalent KM. (To seat rings)
5) Change the oil and call it a day.
6) Retorque the head and adjust the valves if you feel you need to.

I'm pretty much against the "race" break in. But that's just me.

[AccordB20A]

thats a good start, Knew about the oil one. Ill use the standard oil grade from factory whatver that is lol

damn thats a long way to drive to seat rings dang lol

[AccordB20A]

went to town today and experienced fail. the reused head gasket failed on me. HARD
all the oils left the sump and put itself in my radiator and made an ABSOLUTE FUCKING MESS. brown sludge everywehre!!!

So im going to pull the motor out and give it back to my mate, he will do what he wants with it, probably put a new head gasket on and put it in his ldue when he installs the turbo. Me? well im going to go pull out the other auto b20a in the white preldue he bought for parts, ill install that in my car and it will do until i have gotten my engine rebuilt,

FUCK the cunt that installed the head gasket upside down.


EDIT::::: 2013

The oil in the coolant was caused by the oil cooler on the back of the block. it had a crack in it and put full oil pressure into the radiator. The head gasket was fine after all (Y)

[2ndGenGuy]

No doubt man. Fuck em. Good luck on the quick swap.

[AccordB20A]

Yesterday me and my mate pulled a motor from a 2g lude he had bought and we installed in in my car and pulled out that failed rebuilt one of his. Seems to run mint, I took it for a cain last night thru some corners and the ol girl can still handle good, the B20A feels powerful. im so glad to have my car back running reliably again.

[AccordB20A]

In other news, I have gotten my hands on an arm rest/brackets and also an under glove box tray. Mean

I now need some kind person from the USA to get me some cup holders as they are mega rare!

[carotman]

In other news, I have gotten my hands on an arm rest/brackets and also an under glove box tray. Mean

I now need some kind person from the USA to get me some cup holders as they are mega rare!

Get me a under glove box tray and I'll get you cupholders :D

[AccordB20A]

i dont think the glove box tray will fit a LHD they are quite shaped to RHD cars. Mines missing a bracket but i should be able to whip one up and install it.

im happy with my car with its temporary engine. the new motor is ready to be built now.
Im getting good fuel economy with the temporary engine, yes this thread is lacking pix

[MessyHonda]

pics pics pics

[AccordB20A]

Got my car legal today, went for a wof, as the sheet says it failed on the exhaust mounts cause some were off, low power steer fluid and a missing high stop lights in the rear window. also had a loud left rear wheel bearing. i fixed all that up and it passed. so shes legal for another 6 months with its temporary motor.

When i installed this temporary motor i had a spot of fail. snapped a head bold tab off the side of the intake flange and it took a piece of runner with it, so i have obtained another one

[A18A]

yay cool, let me have your old intake :P

[AccordB20A]

Nah i think ill keep it and fix it up/alloy weld. never know what other car ill be getting for my gf. maybe a b20 powered ef or something stupid like that muahahaha but really i want an accord hatch

[A18A]

lol okay then buy my ef for $500, i'll even remove the engine for you in preperation for a b20a :P

[AccordB20A]

nahHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH lol

[2ndGenGuy]

I'll ship you an Accord hatch if you want one. Then you can do a RHD conversion on it so it works right on your roads. There are like 130981390483 of them over here. You pay shipping though! :D

[AccordB20A]

If i could afford it i would keep it LHD for lolZ

My cars still getting good 7.5 liters or better to 100km on open road driving, Cant wait till i get my new motor built, Should get even better milage with all the newer parts and the high compression :)

[AccordB20A]

i must be the b20 killer, its starter to run hotter and hotter, fuel milage is still the same but maybe slightly worce but it could be my driving :)

[b20a86lude]

is that b16 manifold also . tell me wat u did to get it on and wat u ahd to alter on the accord . also did aussie or alex put the gasket on ?

[AccordB20A]

on the web site im making there will be good how to's for everything b20a related.
I thought you knew how to put a b16 intake on since you posted that thread on prelude power?
A20A and B20A intakes are EXACTLY the same, All you have to do is use the b16a gasket in the end and if your really anal bore the top or the bottom (i cant remember) of the ports to make them match as the b16 intake runners are larger than the b20a head ports.

[AccordB20A]

FUCKFUCKFUCK i have some munt damage on my car

was driving on some bumpy ass backroads today as you do, i knew my rear mufflers weld join wasnt holding anymore and it just sat in there nicely, only leaked a bit but today over a bump it must have caught on the road, left a gask in the sealed road, ripped the whole rear muffler off and mangled it up fucked my rear bumper in 3 places bent the shit out of my bootlid and also fucked and kinked the right hand rear quater. what a fucking cunt, i can never ever have an accord with a mint rear end :'(

[AccordB20A]

pointless post with no pics

[Hauntd ca3]

oh suck !!
not a good day then eh

[AccordB20A]

such an annoying thing to happen as soon as i get my cars rear end looking good with a mint bumper something goes and fucks it up.

[carotman]

What? The muffler did this?!?!

Holy crap!

[A18A]

thats gay, do u got a spare rear bumper?

[AccordB20A]

no i dont have a spare rare bumper!! fail. the muffler lifted the car up off the ground at the rear and left a gash in the road too. driving around with no mufflers very interesting

[carotman]

I have a brand new bumper here.

Too bad shipping would be a killer :(

Maybe we can work something out.

[AccordB20A]

I have a brand new bumper here.

Too bad shipping would be a killer :(

Maybe we can work something out.

yeah saw your wanted add there for that, woukld be $100% keen if it was local, get a shipping price to NZ neway :P lol

man its going to be a bitch re aligning the rear end of my car, dunno how im going to push that right rear quater back in to place, its got a kink in it too on the top by the bootlid/rear window

[Tomisimo]

Man that sucks.. well is there any options to this? maybe if you try and hammer it to place?

[2ndGenGuy]

Holy shit man that's mega-gay. The fuckin muffler did that???? That's super shitty. I'll make sure my mufflers are secure from now on...

[AccordB20A]

im going to go get a NZ new catback (which has no cat) 2 or so inch pipe and ill put another rear muffler on

[thegreatdane]

Ouch!! That muffler needs to be punished for it's deeds!!

[Tomisimo]

Ouch!! That muffler needs to be punished for it's deeds!!

LoL ^^

Yes Aaron, find a mace and punish it flat :D

[Tommy AC89 Thailand]

I don't see any VIGOR trunk?
Someone can show me some photo?

[AccordB20A]

I don't see any VIGOR trunk?
Someone can show me some photo?

used to be a vigor not anymore, i used pre facelift tail lights and bootlid since im not a fan of the vigor rear end

[MessyHonda]

man...that sucks......

[AccordB20A]

well i managed to get the exhaust put back on, got tired of fumes entering the car so i had this fart pipe lieing around and we welded it on, Sound not too bad too.

[Hauntd ca3]

ricer"coff coff" lol

[MessyHonda]

lets hope you get a real muffler on it

[AccordB20A]

i swore loudly yesterday as i went to install my towbar only to find my exhaust fails it damnit. had to tow with the lude instead. Sooner i get a decent exhaust the better, there that aerodeck in the junkyard, its a NZ new i think so it should have a good exhaust system without a cat, that would be a good one to steal, ill use a 2.0Si twin pipe rear muffler too FTW no more fart.
the things u do for a towbar

[AccordB20A]

put new tires on my mags today so i have a full set of matching wheels again.....

[Civic Accord Honda]

Fart can looks very win!

[AccordB20A]

Fart can looks very gay!

thanks i know

[2ndGenGuy]

Car's looking good despite the fart can. It's not the worst I've seen. Looks like you fixed everything else up real nice too!

[AccordB20A]

Yeah i went to the junk yard today to grab the standard exhaust off the nz new aerodeck (stock honda exhaust without the cat) and the fucking bolts stripped so i went home empty handed :(

[Hauntd ca3]

check trade me, i saw some nice stainless ones with twin exits for like less than $150, i'm in for one of those

[AccordB20A]

Its march now, i plan to have engine built and installed my april OK

[AccordB20A]

a mate gave me a link to an auction that had a couple of front brake lines for $10NZD, they said they bought them for their integra but they didnt fit but the looked the same as accord ones,



succeed, I compared them with an old one i had and they appear to be the same (ish) win, they cost like $40 each for new lines over here.

[A18A]

goodie good good!

[AccordB20A]

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

Very long day!!!111

went to auckland today (400km there 400km back) to pick up a shitty little automatic 1300cc hondamatic 3g civic, went to all the pick a parts etc etc ANYWAYS just on the way home as we went to turn down the road to go to get petrol i accellerate to 3k rpm in 1st and gently select second and let the clutch out and CRUNCHHHHHHHHHHH. lots and lots of bad noises, and no more drive to the wheels, FUCKFUCK i thought , my gear selector was hard to use and i knew exactly what had blown. So yeah ANOTHER b20a gearbox bites the dust, Then to piss me off more, i was 300km from home and all we had was this shitty 1300 hondamatic a tie down strop and the gas that was in my car. we stphoned my gas out and put it in the civic hooked up the tow strop and that little beats towed my accord 300km back home. Funny thing is, tomrorow (today) there will be another 300km from home mission, this time going down the island the other way to pick up a prelude so guess what i did when my mate dropped me and my car off at mums, replaced the gearbox!! Took like 2 and a bit hours and my cars all good as new again now running a f2k5 instead of the previous b2k5 it had in it.

rock on mission tomorrowe!!!

[A18A]

a 1.5l automatic civic towing a accord that's towing a trailer? that would have been a laugh to see. or where yous using a a-frame? thats gay about breaking another gearbox, but at least you got a replacement one already in (Y)

[Tomisimo]

lol yea, Aaron, why you didnt took a pick of that moment?

Anyhow, I was dreaming tonight about exhaust and stuff, and then it hit me..
Remember this
http://imagehost.3gcvc.com/Uploads/2009-2-17182819P2161076.JPG

then I realized what that thing was, I was wondering about it for a looong time
well, its a slide rail welded on, so when something like with Aaron happens it just slide not ingrawe itself and flip up a car..
Take a look...
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/3Geez/DSCN76811.jpg

[thegreatdane]

Lol maybe you are right. But it could also be that it is supposed to relieve the stress on the exhaust pipe caused by the weight of the muffler because there is no exhaust hanger on the rear part of the rear muffler.
It looks a bit silly either way.

[2ndGenGuy]

Another B20A gearbox dead eh? Maybe it's because you tow flatbed trailers with entire cars on them... Or the B20A gearbox is a piece of shit... Somehow I doubt it's a piece of shit gearbox. :kekeke:

[AccordB20A]

all old honda boxes are POS's the diff's are weak as, the spider gear pin just snaps and it fucks the whole gearbox, it cant be alloy welded to be fixed as half the diff housing is gone, even the speedo drive is snapped

Lucky for spare parts aye

[thegreatdane]

wow didnt notice that your tranny crapped out. You're the only one who's ever had problems with b20a trannies, what the hell are you doing to them? lol
The scenario sounds rather amusing though. Cant believe you actually towed your car with a trailer behind it 300km with a strap and an itty bitty civic hahaha

[Hauntd ca3]

bloody hell aaron!
buy a cheap pos falcon or commodore for towing man
those things are cheap as chips
well cheaper than replacing b2k5's all the time
whats the diff between that and an f2k5?

[accordion89]

Nice, How did you get your wheels so cleen?

[accordion89]

Just gave her its 1st wash. Damn it came up clean. What a shame about the rear bumper and bootlid being so shitty.


http://imagehost.wohdog.sytes.net/1989Vigor/20.JPG



Nice, how did you cleen your wheels? they look like new!

[MessyHonda]

man...can the tranny be fixed at all?

[AccordB20A]

wow didnt notice that your tranny crapped out. You're the only one who's ever had problems with b20a trannies, what the hell are you doing to them? lol
The scenario sounds rather amusing though. Cant believe you actually towed your car with a trailer behind it 300km with a strap and an itty bitty civic hahaha

what trailer? didnt have one, the civic my other mate was driving back and i was following at the time and then he had to tow me..


bloody hell aaron!
buy a cheap pos falcon or commodore for towing man
those things are cheap as chips
well cheaper than replacing b2k5's all the time
whats the diff between that and an f2k5?
i want good gas milage not 5km a liter open road fuck that, i can feel the difference between the f2k5 and b2k3, i passed a shitload of cars today, selected 3rd and floored it and blasted past, it seemed to accelerate way faster. doesnt take long to wind off 4th gear anymore :s


Nice, How did you get your wheels so cleen?
waterblaster


man...can the tranny be fixed at all?
nope, pics will tell soon

IN OTHER NEWS

i have a manual non power steering rack

[AccordB20A]

yay and now the forum software is fucking up again and not letting me view my last post on the last page

[Pico]

IN OTHER NEWS

i have a manual non power steering rack

when are you going to put the rack in?

[Civic Accord Honda]

sucks your trans committed a suicide , seems honda fails at making gear boxs. rather funny to here a 1300 civic auto towed it back though makes me wonder if i get my civics clutch fixed if i could tow an 81 civic 200miles.

[Hauntd ca3]

, i can feel the difference between the f2k5 and b2k3,



b2k3!
must be a rare g/box man!
but anyhoo
what sort of revs duz the f2k5 have you doin @ 100km/h in 4th and 5th

[AccordB20A]

b2k5!!! i failed

both 5th gears look the same on the rev counters 3100rpm-3200rpm at 100km/h

ill install the manual rack when i install my new motor i reckon, i need to find a large swaybar for it 1st :s, Will be good tho...... freeing up all that power the PS pump steals from the engine

[AccordB20A]

test fitted my B18B dizzy today.....

while it was bolted there i ripped apart an old set of leads and installed new wires in them and made a set....

then my gf comes home and says i have to take her to tyhe moves in 5 mins so i quickly wired the tdc sensor and crank sensor wires into my new dizzy and hooked it up and the car went!!. so yeah

More Tomorroe maybe

[Hauntd ca3]

looking good aaron
those leads need a clean tho
bloody woman eh!
thats why i just hired dark knight and got in pizza.
movie theatre seats are useless for pregnant woman so we dont go

[AccordB20A]

the whole engine bay needs a clean, will be good when i install my new engine, i will scrub the whole engine bay and delete all power steer parts and ac parts that are still there.i have to build a custom wiring loom too so i can de-loom the engine, now the coil is mounted on the dizzy i have to run a wire to the igniter in the dizzy from the old igniter on the firewall, im sure it will be fun, but i dont know whether to use shielded cable or not. the rest of the igniter wire is shielded, but if it doesn't need to be shielded i could use an EGR wire that goes right to the loom. i guess thats a good thing about using a blacktop loom, theres at least 2 unused wires coming from the ecu to the engine loom lol

[AccordB20A]

if anyone even reads this thread:

http://imagehost.wohdog.sytes.net/Uploads/2009-3-16183312P3141184.JPG

clocked over 300,000kms yesterday :D

[A18A]

haha cool, how many engines did that take?

[AccordB20A]

haha cool, how many engines did that take?

original a18a, replacement a18a it came with, the b20a from my old rp5476 then the blacktop smokey motor then this one
soon to be a new one

[2ndGenGuy]

:lock: :bandance: yay 300000 :bandance: :lock:

[Hauntd ca3]

four motors to get that far!
god you must give them arse holes aaron
mines still good at 265,000 :p

[Rendon LX-i]

Shit i wish it was that easy to hook up a dizzy to a20s. so basicly a direct bolt in aaron.

[AccordB20A]

four motors to get that far!
god you must give them arse holes aaron
mines still good at 265,000 :p

mates preludes at 315000kms on stock b20a still going strong he beats on it every day, thats the strength of a mightly gold top

none of the motors actually failed i got my car at 268000kms and put 32000kms on it since i got it jan 2008

[MessyHonda]

Shit i wish it was that easy to hook up a dizzy to a20s. so basicly a direct bolt in aaron.



i might have something for you....hehe

[2ndGenGuy]

I don't get why you blow up so many transmissions, Aaron. :D

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h256/jgturk/wohdogflatbed.jpg

[Rendon LX-i]

i might have something for you....hehe

O bro im waiting...lol:rockon:

[AccordB20A]

I don't get why you blow up so many transmissions Aaron. :D


haha nah its hondas weak diff's and the OMGPOWER of the b20a. its the clutches fauklt really for having too much bite, the diff doesnt like the shock off a 2nd gear dump that makes the wheels chirp

I should really install this vigor swaybar today

[AccordB20A]

okay i managed to get the swaybar on, its pretty big and it handles nice, now to do the front...

should this bar make the car feel more stable at high speeds ?

[Hauntd ca3]

a sway bar wont make the car more stable at speed.
will just give better turn in and flatter cornering.

[Tommy AC89 Thailand]

okay i managed to get the swaybar on, its pretty big and it handles nice, now to do the front...

should this bar make the car feel more stable at high speeds ?

here is a shitty photo from my shitty new camera!
http://imagehost.wohdog.sytes.net/Uploads/2009-3-2112641P3201211.JPG

I think that one is more bigger than my car.

[AccordB20A]

a sway bar wont make the car more stable at speed.
will just give better turn in and flatter cornering.

sweet lol

i still have to get around to porting and modifying my new b16 intake so i can remove the old one to send to you how much of a hurry are you in

[Rendon LX-i]

SWEET....looks good bro...i loved how mine handled

[AccordB20A]

Yours probably handled better than mine currently does, I have understeer central due to the konis in the front on half stiffness and the stock rear shocks which are pretty much fucked, Cant wait to install the rear konis and a larger front swaybar then i can set the front konis to full and tune the rear to get it to handles as neutral as i can

[A18A]

lol mean, did yo uhave teh brackets that bolt to the sub frame or did you some how hory it on there some other way?

[AccordB20A]

i did have the brackets but i used a hammer and the small bars bushings on the big bar and hammered till it fitted, fits and looks good and the bushings are nice and tight haha

[Hauntd ca3]

sweet lol

i still have to get around to porting and modifying my new b16 intake so i can remove the old one to send to you how much of a hurry are you in

i'm in no great rush eh.
i didnt get the car off for rust removal coz i got the front suspension out for painting and so i can underseal the front wheel wells.
it wont be away for a nutha few weeks.
looks like wont be painting for awhile.
just when you can get it off.
and what you should have done with those sway bar bushes is freeze them solid then you can drill them to the right size eh

[AccordB20A]

sweeet then no problems

[b20a86lude]

hey araon wat are the stock mm size of the b20a pistons

[AccordB20A]

81mm same as b16a etc

[AccordB20A]

GAH!!!!! overheated it tonight coming home from mum's, heater hose that comes from the head blew another damn hole in it (N)

[A18A]

you're good at ruining b20as aren't you

[2ndGenGuy]

Did you warp the motor?

[AccordB20A]

Well the temp only came up when i got home then i noticed steam pouring out so i swore at it and went inside i didnt overheat it badly do it should be all good.

[AccordB20A]

Fixed the leaky pipe, also saw the radiator has a pinhole, faildedoeselsd

[MessyHonda]

fix it....we dont need a another b20 out

[AccordB20A]

hole seemed to have sealed up, big trip tomorrow, going 600kms to grab another accord :) shes clicking up the kms now, 301000kms today

[AccordB20A]

pointless post with no pics]

[Hauntd ca3]

is that one of those new fangled aircooled diffs aaron?
we could all do with one of those

[AccordB20A]

should lock it then it wont break but steering will be difficult

[MessyHonda]

sad box

[carotman]

The casing can be welded back together if you have the broken parts.

[AccordB20A]

nah not really, Did some research into Honda gearboxes, apparently if you replace the diff pin with a titanium one (sounds expensive) all the problems will be gone, the pin is the weakest link in a honda gearbox (thats what snapped to cause that destruction)

[2ndGenGuy]

Holy shit you really fucked up that gearbox ay?

[AccordB20A]

totally

[Civic Accord Honda]

some honda manual transmission fluid should fix that !!











:lol: :lol:

[AccordB20A]

went to pick a part a few days ago, My mate alex obtained two F2K5 Manual B20A gearboxes and other shit and he also spotted sitting there in a white NZ new accord, some red shocks, with stock springs, yay, another set of konis. we bought them, hes taking the fronts for a prelude and i got the rears for $44, Today i put them in with my lowering springs (set the spring pirch on the koni's to the highest setting)
I like how it handles but i feel it needs to be stiffer :)

[ZackieDarko]

sad box


is sad