AccordB20A's 2.0Si F1 Edition Build

[AccordB20A]

picked this up. Looks better than it actually is. Bumpers and bootlid are scratched to shit, And it needs a wash. ill get decent pics tomorrow.
1989 honda accord vigor mxl
A18A Automatic
nothing special, folding mirrors and fogs.

my new project car

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[AccordB20A]

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[forrest89sei]

Looks like a good project car :wave:

[A18A]

^i was just gonna say that except swap the word "good" for "fun" and the :wave: for a :D

[AccordB20A]

mint. shes gunna be a beast

[Civic Accord Honda]

it looks like matts vigor and gray accord had a kid and put godzila engine in it

[russiankid]

I thought you hated carbs? Whats up with that man...Anyways with some love she will clean up well!

[2ndGenGuy]

Wicked ride right there. That rear wiper is straight pimp. I foresee a 5-speed B20A in it's future! Straight gangster too, Dr. DRE style.

[carotman]

Good luck with the EFI conversion. That's so time consuming :D

[AccordB20A]

I thought you hated carbs? Whats up with that man...Anyways with some love she will clean up well!
thats what it came with. Soon you will see that a18a with b20a injection on it as i create another 1.8Si


Wicked ride right there. That rear wiper is straight pimp. I foresee a 5-speed B20A in it's future! Straight gangster too, Dr. DRE style.

yeah stuff the gay18a engine as soon as i can either rebuild my spare b20a it will be going in. Until then the plan is to find a 5 speed a20a gearbox to stick on it and inject the a18a and cruise with that till the b20's rebuilt and then ill stick that in.

[A20A1]

The intake manifold looks so much nicer without the EGR stuck to it.

[AccordB20A]

Just gave her its 1st wash. Damn it came up clean. What a shame about the rear bumper and bootlid being so shitty.

[MessyHonda]

needs a drop.but i bet it will come later down the road

[russiankid]

I'm curious as to why you have a CEL on a carb'd car? I don't have one...

[labeledsk8r]

looks good, except for the rear rust spot and the a18 engine lol, goodluck

[A18A]

yeah loks pretty good already (Y)

whys the rear plate different? i thoguth only i was allowed to do that

[Hazwan]

Looking good, just don't rice and wreck this one :lol:

[snoopyloopy]

so when you're parting it, i call dibs on the fogs. :P

[forrest89sei]

I'm curious as to why you have a CEL on a carb'd car? I don't have one...

I think thats a Temp Light

[A18A]

whats a cel?

[forrest89sei]

whats a cel?

Check Engine Light

[russiankid]

I think thats a Temp Light

Weird i don't have that either:Owned:

[forrest89sei]

Weird i don't have that either:Owned:

It's the damn japs!

I want a JDM Cluster!

The EFI ones have a couple extra lights too


Arron's Clusters

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[AccordB20A]

theres no CEL. its a CAT light i dunno what its for but it comes on when the alternator decides to die.

[2ndGenGuy]

Is there an O2 sensor after, or a temp sensor near the catalytic converter? It could just tell you if the cat is not properly working.

[russiankid]

theres no CEL. its a CAT light i dunno what its for but it comes on when the alternator decides to die.

We have a battery light for that....:wtf:

[A18A]

oh that light, yeah i think its connected to the same light as the battery one since they both always come on instead of one or the other

[AccordB20A]

Yes, its triggured from a sensor after or before the cat

[AccordB20A]

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[AccordB20A]

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[Civic Accord Honda]

what was worng with the interior

[A18A]

sugly

[coope]

now do the engine bay a20a3 ftw or b20a enything beside that dame carbed motor

[AccordB20A]

You telling me, i hate carbs and everyone on this forum knows it. Oh well. the new EFI fuel lines going to be the cunt, Im going to have to do some reasearch on this forum and find out how lol

[H2289Acc]

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! That is some funny shit...you burning the burgundy interior! I just stripped mine out and was planning on selling it. Now I think I'm just gonna have to burn mine too! Hahahahahahahahahahaha! :cheers:
So, you sure you don't want to sell me that digi cluster? lol

[Civic Accord Honda]

yeah the marron is nasty i have brown in my new car :)

[labeledsk8r]

why burn it? .... are you just that bored lolol

[AccordB20A]

we here at this property like fire, specially big fires, thats why seats and plastics all get burnt. Got to remove the wiring loom tomorrow and burn that too.... for scrap metal.. burn the plastic off the coper and take it into the scrappy for some $$$$ to go towards.... Something

[mushroom_toy]

Man i want those wheels lol.

[AccordB20A]

Man i want those wheels lol.

thats what all my mates say too. But i allready have a set of wheels so they will either be sold or scrapped for alloy so i can get more $$$ to fix this car up

today im going to rip out the wiring looms and try remove all the panels of the car ready to blast it with water and get all the packed on dirt from the 260000kms that it has done

[AccordB20A]

Then i pulld the whole wiring loom out of the car, all of the heater boxes and waterblasted the inside (and roof lining lol) to get rid of the dog smell. Came up nice and also smells good now.
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Now i planned on converting the rear drums to discs and efi swap on this car so i swapped the rear discs on and tank from a parts car (was easier to do this at the same time)
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[Civic Accord Honda]

:)

[A18A]

good shit!!

[2ndGenGuy]

Man nice progress! Looks like you had quite the fire going! We'd get in serious trouble if we had a garbage burn like that. The fire department would be here lickety split to fine us.

[AccordB20A]

okay got the rest of the heater and loom out today and washed the interior. Theres still some shit up the front but when the car dries i will dry it out

[A18A]

shes a minter au

[forrest89sei]

WOW, STRIPPED!!!!!!!

Looking Good :wave:

[russiankid]

So whats the point of stripping it?

[AccordB20A]

So whats the point of stripping it?

-Swap fuel lines to EFI
-Auto to manual conversion
-Install F1 interior and digital dash
-swap wiring loom and add some wires and install alarm
-remove extra weight (dirt stuck under the carpet etc lol)
-Install climate control (new heater boxes etc....)

[Civic Accord Honda]

looks top mate!

[carotman]

I would like that blue seat with back cushion (just the cushion)

Have you got any plans for it? Take the cushion out for me and burn the rest :D

[AccordB20A]

I would like that blue seat with back cushion (just the cushion)

Have you got any plans for it? Take the cushion out for me and burn the rest :D

You might have to ask A18A for his. Mines all burnt

[Steve_Si]

Lol I think he has asked A18A

[A18A]

yeah i've just been too lazy to get them since the cars a mess


typical A18A!!

[carotman]

Lol, lazy NZ guys :p

I need JDM bumper lens too!

[AccordB20A]

lol....

Anyway i have installed the new fuel line as i went to my mums and ripped of with the fuel line and tank and also took off with the rear discs. I went and bought a proportioning valve of a aerodeck with rear discs from a junkyard and have installed that and the new booster from the other SI

currently i am workijng on remvoeing the exhaust so i can remove the exhaust heat sheild to remove the fuel tank and rear drum brakes. kidna doing 2 jobs at once. Its fun tho. nice hot day out side. At the end of the day ill post an updagte with new pics

[AccordB20A]

Installed the efi wiring loom from the donor car aswell as the manual stuff like pedal box clutch cable, also installed the EFI fuel lines ready for B20A Swap
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[carotman]

Nice progress.

Did you have a chance to compare both fuel tanks to see the differences?

[AccordB20A]

Nice progress.

Did you have a chance to compare both fuel tanks to see the differences?
affirmative. the EFI tank does for sure have baffels around where the pump picks up fuel from so in cases of extreem cornering the pump will still have fuel. The carb tank has nothing.... wont need it cause it has a float bowl full of fuel to use up before it starts to cough and splutter. I would recommend swapping the tanks over just to be safe. specially if you drive like i do.

[2oodoor]

The intake manifold looks so much nicer without the EGR stuck to it.

yeah really, and is it an optical illusion or are the runners a little larger than US models?

[2oodoor]

affirmative. the EFI tank does for sure have baffels around where the pump picks up fuel from so in cases of extreem cornering the pump will still have fuel. The carb tank has nothing.... wont need it cause it has a float bowl full of fuel to use up before it starts to cough and splutter. I would recommend swapping the tanks over just to be safe. specially if you drive like i do.

good to know, I remember that being asked before a cupple of times with not absolute answer, now we noKw

[87roach]

Thanks for the clear up there, I better find a new tank...

[AccordB20A]

And have fun swappng it. the FUCK counter was started yesterday. total FUCK's so far is at 58 and counting

[AccordB20A]

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[A18A]

mean!

[MessyHonda]

no one needs cruise control...i took mine out since it fucked up the 3rd day i had the car

[A18A]

cruise control is good for cruising

[ESDEEZ]

do you live at honda junkyard or somthing? Theres loads of poor background cars i can see...

Good luck by the way

[AccordB20A]

I use cruise control late at night when my foot hurts and ive been driving too long.

Yeah we have a few other hondas around. do up and sell jobs.

[Hazwan]

I want cruise..

[MessyHonda]

cruise control is good for cruising



i like speed too much to just cruise

[AccordB20A]

Aparently i have 10 days to get the beast moving. Tomorrows plans are to start the a18 with the EFI :D. k goodnight

[carotman]

Want to sell those CF-48? :D

Why do you have 10 days to get the car moving?

[A18A]

so he can go and pick up my car for me :P

[labeledsk8r]

Want to sell those CF-48? :D

Why do you have 10 days to get the car moving?

forrest and me have been bugging him about those 48's in the chat room... he said he might sell them for scrap :'(

[AccordB20A]

hey now they arent mine to sell. they belong to alex (3gcvc) i think he would sell them for like 300-400 :P jdm y0
but only a civic owner would pay that for them.

[AccordB20A]

and the wheels i was going to scrap are the ones that came on my vigor when i bought it. But i think my mate is going to take them off me for the price of 2 tyres and fitting and balancing 4 tyres onto my rims

[AccordB20A]

Another update, Man theres 72 pics in this thread...
Today i finished installing the cars wiring loom, pulled the carb off the a18a and installed the modified b20a distributer onto the a18a.
Installed the EFI engine loom and battery cables and have got power in the car. The windows wind up and down :)
when i turn on the ignition the main relay clicks on and clicks off like it should. All i need is fuel. and to grind out the head where the injectors squirt as in the photo and install the intake manifold and it should start. I have installed a TW sensor on this one so it wont run as rich as the last injected a18a i made. Anyway heres the pics. I had to steal the blacktop intake manifold of my b20.

[Civic Accord Honda]

yay

[forrest89sei]

Nice

[Hazwan]

I want to go to your place, looks fun!

[AccordB20A]

Yup its fun allright. we deal in 3 types of car. 2g prelude, 3g civic and 3g accords lol we have two of each currently haha but 3 preludes cause im borowing my mates one

[carotman]

Well, sorry to bring the bad news but this EFI conversion won't work that way.

1- The B20A distributor will not work, it's missing the cyl sensor the A20A ECU needs. The Cyl sensor is on the exhaust cam on the B20A engines. You abosulely need an A20A dizzy. The A20A has the TDC and Cyl sensor inside. It doesn't have any crank sensor.

2- The A18A head is missing the ports for the injectors like the A20A heads have.http://carotman.no-ip.com:8888/personal_site/howto/eficonversion/images/intakeport.jpg

You will need to drill them out 1st if you want to use that head.

[AccordB20A]

i am in the process of porting the holes on the head out. But i had the engine running earlyer today.
so if the cyl sensor is the 2 wire sensor on the exhaust cam why does the engine run without it? I thought the cyl sensor was in the dizzy and the tdc sensor was on the exhaust cam.

the engine runs now, i think i ran it out of gas tho since when i crank it over it firess then stops then fires then stops. i had it revlimiting earlyer:P

[AccordB20A]

oh and does the a20a dizzy have all 3 sensors inside it? Im running this off a b20 ecu

[carotman]

The car might run with one sensor missing but will definetly throw a CEL code.

The B20A has the Crank/TDC sensor in the distributor and the Cyl sensor on the exhaust.

The A20A has the Cyl/TDC sensor in the distributor and uses no Crank sensor whatsoever.

If you plan to swap the B20A very soon in the car, you could just leave it like this if the car runs. However, the B20A ECU will make the A18A run extra rich and with the CEL for the cyl sensor, it won't run right.

If you want to use the A18A for an extended period of time, swap the ECU with a PJ0, swap some pins around (I make a post about this) and use the A20A distributor. The A18A will run better like this.

Make sure you port those holes! lol

[AccordB20A]

Yeah ill play with it some more when i have fuel so the engine will actually run lol

I should make a bracket and mount the cam sensor on the cam pulley bolt

[AccordB20A]

Hey another update lol

Today i got busy doing my wiring. I wired up the Foglights using the OEM wires. minter. i found out that on the 88-89 looms the front main loom for the car has the extra wires for the digital dashes 5 wire fuel sender. so i ran the other two wires from the plug along where the rear loom goes and put them into the fuel sender. It looks OEM as. the loom also had the rear wipoer wires so that was damn easy to hook up.
I installed a bootlid and tail lights and its sitting on rims now lol.

[AccordB20A]

pics that dont work ftl

[AccordB20A]

more pics that dont work :(

[2ndGenGuy]

Looks like some serious progress! Must be nice having all that OEM wiring in there for the digital gauges! :thumbup:

[1ajs]

you better have it runing on time lol

[AccordB20A]

It will be ready for the experdition, otherwise we have to take my car hahaa

[carotman]

Wow! Nice progress so far. Seems you'll have a bit of welding to do for the rear folding seat.

This gives me some motivation for my fog lights wiring. I've been lazy lately.

[AccordB20A]

Wow! Nice progress so far. Seems you'll have a bit of welding to do for the rear folding seat.

This gives me some motivation for my fog lights wiring. I've been lazy lately.

Yup. I have to go to mums to drill the spot welds out of the folding seat brackets and tack them in to this car before i can use the back seat properly.

I was in a wireing mood today as you may have seen haha
Hope its not raining tomorrow so i can finish installing the wires/alarm/audio wires and start getting the interior installed!!!

[thegreatdane]

Hey wohdog, could you be so very kind and do a thorough examination of your fuel level sender for your digital dash?

Honda japan doesnt carry the sender unit anymore so I'm hoping that I can modify a regular fuel level sender to work with my digital gauges, but I need to know what the extra circuitry is.

Could you take some detailed pics of it and if you have an ohm meter, find out what's connected with what on it's terminals? And resistance in either circuitrys at empty/half/full.

I'm going crazy not having a fuel level reading or a working trip computer.

[AccordB20A]

yeah it just means i got to pull it out.

aparently it works like a variable resistor, one wire in the midle that goes from side to side on a coil of resistance wire and theres a wire on each side of the coil

[AccordB20A]

Hostings dead. no pics!!

[carotman]

The fuel sender from a 4th gn lude might be the solution. They all have the digital fuel unit, even the base model.

[AccordB20A]

true. and carotman you knows lots about ecus... How can you make it not show an error code for a certain sensor? I have a feeling that its possible cause some 86 ecus show an error code for egr and some dont come wqith it. theres gotta be a component in there that they change to make the error code go away for the cars that done have egr.

[AccordB20A]

Hey another update. Today i managed to install the amp wiring kits and the heater boxes and climate control. It plugged straight in. fucking minter. Alex started porting the A18A head to make it more EFI friendly and i ran another battery flat. Tomorrow i should be ablew to put the dash in and have the interior in. But i still have to install the alarm which will take ages cause i have to remove it out of the other car. Should be okay, Hell it mght even be driveable tomorrow. Wish me luck haha
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[A18A]

cool as!!

[Civic Accord Honda]

http://imagehost.wohdog.sytes.net/1989Vigor/83.JPGthos black rims look bad ass but needs a drop!

[russiankid]

I see scratches on the head, how is the gasket going to seal? Looks good otherwise.

[thegreatdane]

OK here goes....

it works like a variable resister, as i said, theres a coil and a slider that slides along it. End to end resistance of the coil is 323ohms

red wire goes to the left and a black to the right. yellow does the moving piece that slides along the coil. The fuel light wire is the same.

the coil on the stock fuel sender measures at around 150ohms so you cant use that you will have to rewrap it and the moving slider on the stock sender is grounded so you will have to change that. I took some photos. I dont wanna play with the sender too mjuch in fear of damaging it since its so precise and precios and the only one in the damn world!!!

Alex was just talking to me and said that the one from a 2g lude may be an option as there are a few of them here with the electronic navigator, which is pretty much the same. I woinder if they are the same.. any ideas?

Thanks a bunch for taking your time to remove it again! I think this is going to help me out alot! I had also suspected that this would be how they were constructed. Now I know better where to start so thanks a lot.
The 2g ludes with digital dash also uses a special 5 wire fuel level unit, but I think they are just as rare?

The section for the fuel reserve light on your unit looks different from the regular unit though?
Btw, on the digital dash control unit there's a big and a small connector. Is anything connected to your small connector, and if so, do you know what it is?



The fuel sender from a 4th gn lude might be the solution. They all have the digital fuel unit, even the base model.

Thanks for the input! I looked at a wiring diagram and they do actually both have 5 wires and a sort of variable resistor inside. I could possibly use some of the internals of the unit if they share the same coil resistance. Here's a 4th gen lude unit: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/axlline/install/2007023.jpg

[AccordB20A]

i dont think you have to worry about the fuel light thing. Its different cause the sensor for it is in a tank so the light doesnt flash on and off as much with accelleration and cornering.

What plug do you mean? On the back of my dash there are 2 yellow plugs 2 ones that plug into the dahs itself and the one that does the lighting. i dont really know what any of them do tho.

[AccordB20A]

http://imagehost.wohdog.sytes.net/1989Vigor/83.JPGthos black rims look bad ass but needs a drop!
they do suit the car dont they lol. But yeah they raise the car a few inches which is ghey. and i have no way to lower it on my budget.

I see scratches on the head, how is the gasket going to seal? Looks good otherwise.
dont know if ill be using a gasket i usually some sort os sealer on my intake manifolds cause they allways break so its gonna be okay.

[russiankid]

Oh i see, well make sure to clean out the ports as i see metal shavings on the valves.

[AccordB20A]

Yupyup that photo was taken half way thru grinding it. blowing each of them out with teh compressor when we are done. 2 more to go alex is slacking.
I just went and got some supplies to make the car driveable.

Brake pads, Fluid and a foglight bulb.

Currently im installing the aalrm...

[A18A]

lol i have the exact same brake fluid, that looks like 9 litres less than you were planning on getting?

[Hauntd ca3]

dont use that silverline stuff dude.
its absolute rubbish!
use bendex metalkings or mintye semi metallics.
you'll turn those silverline things to smoke real fast if you like late braking.
the fluid aint much better.

[AccordB20A]

yeah i know its crap. i asked my mate at appco to get me the cheapest of cheap. limited budget so budget stuff.lol It will do for now tho. hell they are only rear brake pads

[russiankid]

Oh you did a rear disk swap as well?

[thegreatdane]

i dont think you have to worry about the fuel light thing. Its different cause the sensor for it is in a tank so the light doesnt flash on and off as much with accelleration and cornering.

What plug do you mean? On the back of my dash there are 2 yellow plugs 2 ones that plug into the dahs itself and the one that does the lighting. i dont really know what any of them do tho.

No I'm talking about the triangular shaped control unit for the digi dash, located by the glovebox. There's 2 connectors on it. I'm only using the large one and have no idea what the wires on the small connector is for??

[AccordB20A]

DAM i just installed the dash. so i cant look. i have a feeling the fuel sender wires go into the smaller plug tho. have no idea what the rest do......

[AccordB20A]

Oh you did a rear disk swap as well?

Sure did, Drums suck, and the discs i got have like 2mm of pad left so some new cheap shit ones arew better than none at all.

[russiankid]

Sure did, Drums suck, and the discs i got have like 2mm of pad left so some new cheap shit ones arew better than none at all.

True. I got new rotors, pads, brake lines, fluid, and rebuilt the calipers when i did my swap. Anyways got it running yet?

[AccordB20A]

no pics

[AccordB20A]

[Got most of the interior in now. dash is wired up and working.
I even installed some rear retractable seat belts since all JDM models dont come with them.
Motor does noit run yet cause slack arse alex hasnt finished porting the head.

[Civic Accord Honda]

looking badass man!

[Hauntd ca3]

interior starting to look good dude! good work
put some of those silverline pads in my bros sentra, bedded them in round dunedin
and gave them a workout on wy back to invers.
they started to smoke after 3 or 4 hard stops.
not cool.
trw by lucas are not much better despite what the repco or appco guys will tell you.
cool news, got my 20v 4age quad throttles organised last night.
should be here in a week or two.
have two crank angle sensors off an rs legacy and the 4 coils from same.
no more dizzy when i build a good motor

[labeledsk8r]

looking good man... the F1 interior looks fresh... next time you might want to wash your hands though since you have greese smuges on half the interior parts now LOLOL

[AccordB20A]

Lol yeah its going to get dirty anyway. The interior needs a damn good clean. its covered in too much dust from beng in storage. But its day will come

[AccordB20A]

okay i finished porting the head myself. put it all together and http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=tlz7uZ1uXHs

[A18A]

show us photos of your port job lol

[AccordB20A]

why. just imaging the pic of the one thats allready on here X 4 lol

I fixed the misfiring and running like shit issue. it had fucked plugs and leads. It now purs like a kitten

[2ndGenGuy]

Interior is looking good!!! :thumbup:

[AccordB20A]

thank you :)

No pics for this update....

what i did today:
Completed rear disc swap by bleeding brakes ands installing new brake pads. had an error while doing so. Both rear calipers were fucked, both seized so i pissed round for an extra half an hour and stole the calipers off my other accord. All fixed now, Bled all 4 brakes so my car will now stop.
Nice to see that the engine runs im so happy about that :D:D:D

[forrest89sei]

Congrats on the engine running :thumbup:

[Civic Accord Honda]

:d :d

[AccordB20A]

ANOTHER UPDATE...
Started installing panels and shit. need a new rear bumper but ill search junkyards for one on teh road trip.
Engine runs, drives starts and stops. brakes work. i think i need a new alt/water pump belt as mines falling to bits
Currently still running the automatic gearbox. even though i have installed the manual shifter and the clutch pedal and stuff. I pulled the auto gear selecter thru a hole in the floor for easy access in the cabin lol. The main thing now is that its got fuel economy. i dont wanna drive a car that drinks fuel like a subaru or rotary. Here have some pics. i even have a ducktail spoiler FOR THE WIN!!!!111111one

[A18A]

some good stuff there!!!

[russiankid]

That is the most ghetto'est gear selector ever!!!

[Civic Accord Honda]

badass straight up ballin !

[AccordB20A]

That is the most ghetto'est gear selector ever!!!

lol yupyup. Its only got to get me to matts place then we will construct a manual gearbox to install. Then the auto box will be scrap metal

[AccordB20A]

DONE!! minus rear bumper.

[MessyHonda]

lol dual shifter model

[labeledsk8r]

woot. you need that rear bumpe on badly... those rims without a drop and no bumper make that thing look super high off the ground lol




lol dual shifter model

haha its like a new level of rice

[knarg]

sahweet

[Civic Accord Honda]

yay
why not use the old bumper for now? lol

[A18A]

mean, are you gonna use the rp5476 plates when you come up?

[Civic Accord Honda]

mean, are you gonna use the rp5476 plates when you come up? ahahahaha i saw that too

[AccordB20A]

Yes ill be using the rp5476 plates cause they still have wof and rego till like may

Ill be installing a blue bumper tomrorow at mums. It will have to do the job. The 17s will be coming off it tomorrow and ill find some stock alloys or steelies to go on.

Went on its 1st trip tonight. Drove my mate home... Put $20 in and used nearly all of it. buyt on the way home i tested out its fuel economy and managed to get around 10.2KM to a liter of fuel according to the digital dash lol.

thats only a little bit worce the b20 in my other car gets like between 10 and 11 km/liter
I have the kickdown/TV cable for the auto gearbox attached to the clutch cable. its a must do man when im slowing down and want to engine brake.... simply press the clutch to the floor. Or if im going throgh corners and want to stay in the same gear i can control what gear the auto is in and i can limit it with the clutch cable. its really funny. but i want a manual box. Should i drive it to auckland and pick up 1ajs and see matt in it or is the fuel economy too bad??

[Steve_Si]

The digital dash does not know you have a A18A EFi, reported fuel consumption will be incorrect.

[labeledsk8r]

yeah i would test the milage the old fashioned way.... put so many litters of fuel in the write down how many miles it gets till the fuel light comes on.. and then do the math...

and hooking the TV cable up like that is fun.. gives the auto so much more controle

[thegreatdane]

the fuel consumption calculation does not relate to the engine itself, just consumed fuel over x mileage. :)

[AccordB20A]

the fuel consumption calculation does not relate to the engine itself, just consumed fuel over x mileage. :)

Yeah and its damn accurate too.

edit:: Its calculated off injector duty cycle

[AccordB20A]

yeah. so the day before the trip the water pump on the 1.8Si engine took a shit. so in the pissing rain for 6 hours i took the engine from rp5476 and put it in my car. B20A Power for Teh wiN

Also found out that both my front wheel bearings are fucked. one had no CV nut on it at all.

I plan on stealing teh front hubs off matts blue car :D

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff295/88vigor/100_7320Large.jpg

[carotman]

Damn, you put alot of work in this car already!

now, go get me digital dash parts :p pleeeeassse :D

[AccordB20A]

Spent $50 on a new bonnet. Its mint in every way. has a stone chip by the honda badge but thats allright. I havent Installed a grille yet. I wont be keeping the vigor grille anymore.

[forrest89sei]

New Bonnet Looks GREAT!

[A18A]

i installed teh window washer hose on that bonnet, just for that extra mintness :thumbup:

[Hazwan]

Whats wrong with the old one?

[carotman]

Nice looking car!

[thegreatdane]

Looks good! And your new accord is a whole lot more decent than your old one.

[2ndGenGuy]

Yeah man your car is looking like a minter!

[AccordB20A]

yeah i was kinda glad to get the old one off the driveway. the old bonnet had dents in the middle of it where someone looks like the walked across it and jumped on it etc.

[AccordB20A]

another update.... managed to clean interior yesterday.. shes tidy now :)

[Hazwan]

Not clean enough....

But its better :D

[Civic Accord Honda]

looking top man

[carotman]

What's the thing on the seft of the steering wheel, under the dash? (Like right below the cruise switch).

Is it for the side vents?

[bullard123]

Thats clean!

[mushroom_toy]

Man im telling you you sho8uld keep those meshs on there, they look fucking sweet, with that color car. :)

[AccordB20A]

nah those wheels are too scratched up and fucked. Plus im swapping them for a full set of good tyres for my other accords wheels and some paint to recondition them. sounds like a good deal to me :)

[AccordB20A]

What's the thing on the seft of the steering wheel, under the dash? (Like right below the cruise switch).

Is it for the side vents?
it does the drivers vent. turns it on and off

[A20A1]

yeah really, and is it an optical illusion or are the runners a little larger than US models?

they should be the same the EGR though is cast along side the runners to it makes that side a little larger.

[2ndGenGuy]

Bumpage. What's new?

[forrest89sei]

Well One Update should be that he WON AOM!

http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63985

But Joe hasn't made the new thread yet

[AccordB20A]

Bumpage. What's new?

whats new???
i broke my indicator and headlight swiutch again lol

[A18A]

you havnt even shown off your wheels yet :)

[AccordB20A]

Haha. my bad. when i put the white ones on i will do it.

the combo switch is now fixed and working perfectly. I also installed ythe MIC for my glass break sensor so no one can smash a window without me knowing.

[A18A]

are you putting teh white ones on??!?

[AccordB20A]

yeah just to have a look and see what they look like. and to wear out the tyres so i dont have to wear out my new ones

[ChaseR]

how can I aquire a guage cluster like that?

[AccordB20A]

well you wont get one the same as mine cause those are plain hard to find. even over here in NZ where lots of JDM stuff lives.

[AccordB20A]

pics gone (N)

[Hazwan]

Not that bad, but don't be suprised if you find more. Any rusts on quarter panel?

Better get that fixed ASAP!

[carotman]

Hmmm, the last picture is near the rear bumper support. get this fixed asap.

You'll need to sandblast the rust if you want to ever have a chance of getting rid of it.

Remove the trunk plastic trims and check for moe rust. They usually rust in that area.

[AccordB20A]

Hmmm, the last picture is near the rear bumper support. get this fixed asap.

You'll need to sandblast the rust if you want to ever have a chance of getting rid of it.

Remove the trunk plastic trims and check for moe rust. They usually rust in that area.

its behind the bumper on the right behind the wheel on the side. when i had all the interior out of the car there was none inside it. from what i can see its all surface rust. But yes best hurry before surface rust makes a hole

[MessyHonda]

fix it

[Catalyst]

Those pictures make me glad I live in California!

Other than the rust, shes looking pretty good man.

[forrest89sei]

Those pictures make me glad I live in California!

Other than the rust, shes looking pretty good man.

Bah being in California does nothing lol

My 86 LX was from Isup, NY then in 1992 Moved to Arnold, CA (your neck of the woods) and lived there till 2001 when we got it, and it has Bad Body rust and some frame rust..

The Lesson here kid's is wash your car often and wax it.

Good luck on the rust repairs Aaron :wave:

[AccordB20A]

yeah it depends how the car is looked after. Mines one of the good ones in this country.

[AccordB20A]

no pics again but this was when i put the white prelude wheels on

[forrest89sei]

Wheels look great, just a lil respray and they'd look mint

[2ndGenGuy]

(Y) lookin good!!!!

[Civic Accord Honda]

looks good

[A18A]

they look horrible, take them off, send them to me, i'll dispose of them for you.. nah they look pretty good

[AccordB20A]

LOl i knew that was coming. Ill use them till teh tyres wear out probably lol then ill sell them to you for cheap:p

[headbanger]

nice rimz look like turbine blades

[AccordB20A]

nice rimz look like turbine blades

yeah it used to say that on the center caps before i destroyed them removing them. its prolly to cool the brakes down or some shit

[MessyHonda]

let hope they dont jdm drift on you when you take the corner at high speeds

[2ndGenGuy]

They look like they provide maximum grip by creating their own downforce on the wheels at high speed. ;)

[AccordB20A]

thats the point mate. and with my current fucked shock setup i aint gunna be cornering very fast. Found out last night they had 16PSI of air in the rears.. woops lol

[AccordB20A]

lol gave it a wash today. tried cleaning as much off the wheels as i could but failed. Looks better anyways:

[Hazwan]

Looks like its ready for some rallying lol

[Civic Accord Honda]

looks top (Y)
rims could use a fresh recoat of white paint though

[knarg]

get some wide tires on them when the old ones wear out!

[AccordB20A]

i got a fuckin flat tyre today. gay thigns now i got 3 white rims and a black 13 inch steelie

[AccordB20A]

another update.... blown head gasket. while driving around a water pipe decided to blow out without telling me and i overheated it.............. poor cars really being annoying. oh well i has money on the way so it will be getting some care under the hood soon.

[Civic Accord Honda]

i got a fuckin flat tyre today. gay thigns now i got 3 white rims and a black 13 inch steelie
paint the steelie white :)


another update.... blown head gasket. while driving around a water pipe decided to blow out without telling me and i overheated it.............. poor cars really being annoying. oh well i has money on the way so it will be getting some care under the hood soon.
blown head gasket FTL!

[AccordB20A]

okay i got another engine mod to install but i am going to have to do a bit of modification and slot the holes and port one of the middle exhaust ports to fit. Factory JDM h22a extractors. only the top half. i have test fitted and making them work will be easy. And also later on modifying them looks easy to (changing the runner lengths to tune the powerband) They also weigh half what the factory b20a cast exhaust manifold weighs. This is what ill work on and ill upload more pics during the install and after its installed.

[2ndGenGuy]

Wow thats pretty sweet. That's an OEM part eh? Never thought they'd make a tubular piece like that.

[A18A]

mint stuff

[AccordB20A]

Decided i wanted new sparkplug leads today so i priced them and they were $60 for a set and that was from a special discount from my mate at an auto parts store. I decided to pull apart the 19 year old OEM b20a dohc leads and buy the wire and ends i needed and use the stock sparkplug end rubber bits. For $30 i managed to get a brand new OEM-Ish looking set of leads....

[A18A]

cool, i shall copy you :)

[AccordB20A]

good man.

[carotman]

Nice cheap upgrade!

[forrest89sei]

Nice leads, Send me some twisties :D

[AccordB20A]

i just spent $121.20 on stuff


oil, oil filter, spark plugs coolant and a head gasket. Will install them wednesday maybe

[2ndGenGuy]

Did you say it was $460.00 for new spark plug leads???

[A18A]

maybe he was ment to put a capital 4 ($)? anyways, new stuff is always good

[AccordB20A]

yeah i fixed it now. head gasket is now installed. seems to work but i only drove to town and back. ill find out for sure tomorrow when i go to see my gf

[AccordB20A]

and aparently the new head i installed has fucked valve guides/seals. engine smokes like a bitch

FAIL

[carotman]

Ouch,

Never install a head without at least changing the seals. (or check them) It's cheap to replace once it's out of the car.

Is you old head still in decent shape? Get this one rebuild and put it back on the engine.

[AccordB20A]

Ouch,

Never install a head without at least changing the seals. (or check them) It's cheap to replace once it's out of the car.

Is you old head still in decent shape? Get this one rebuild and put it back on the engine.

yeah i think i have a b20a head set somewhere too with the seals so ill be doing that

[2oodoor]

must be nice to run down to the corner and get a b20a head gasket:wave:
I have seen these factory headers in the JY, I think on 4th gen F motors, I wonder how far off those flanges are from B20a... that one you got, man those are some huge wide ass flanges..

[AccordB20A]

we are making a tool using a pipe and sparkplug to blow air into the cylinder to hold the valves shut while i replace the seals. hopefull that will fix it

[carotman]

we are making a tool using a pipe and sparkplug to blow air into the cylinder to hold the valves shut while i replace the seals. hopefull that will fix it

Make sure the piston is at the top when you do this... just in case the valve drops in the cylinder hahaha.

[Hazwan]

we are making a tool using a pipe and sparkplug to blow air into the cylinder to hold the valves shut while i replace the seals. hopefull that will fix it

Post pics of the tool, sounds interesting lol

[AccordB20A]

Make sure the piston is at the top when you do this... just in case the valve drops in the cylinder hahaha.

yeah then i would have no choice than to pull the head off

[AccordB20A]

i went for a warrant of fitness. Failed on rust under my tail light (that i knew was there) left rear tyre was an odd size (185 65 r14 not 185 60 r14 like the rest) also my right front lower ball joint has like 10mm of play so im going to fix those up and sort that so i can drive legally.

OH and i installed the correct number plates on my car. no more RP5476 plates my car is not DRE96

and i think my camera has given up on me so i cant take pics anymore until my birthday (hopes)

[A18A]

whens your birthday? someone getting you a knew camera?

[AccordB20A]

June and yeah hope so lol

[2ndGenGuy]

Rust under the tail light? How the fuck is that dangerous? The NZ WOF is completely retarded. I've never heard of a car crash or a person dying to due something rusting and falling apart on a car.

[AccordB20A]

pulled the head apart (but not off) and replaced the valve stem seals with new ones. doesnt smoke badly anymore. oly slightly after deceleratio and when its cold and thats acceptable.
the old seals were half gone and so hard they wouldnt do anything anyway. I ahvent got a camera at the moment so heres the two pics my mates took


going to take car back for a wof today

[2ndGenGuy]

Sweet! Nice work. Good luck on the w0f! Glad she doesn't smoke so bad anymore!

[AccordB20A]

I reckon. I passed the WOF. So im legal for another 6 months

[2ndGenGuy]

Yeah buddy! Congrats on the w0f! Why only 6 months? Do you have to w0f every 6 months???

[forrest89sei]

Congrats on Passing WOF!!

And yeah he has to get WOF every 6 months there based on the age of his car, newer cars are once a year (I only know this cuz I read the NZ road code when I was bored)

[A18A]

indeed, cars 6 years old or newer only have to go once a year. they should be made to pay twice as much since they get a wof for twice as long, and if they can afford a car newer tha 6 years old they shouldnt complain

[MessyHonda]

man 6 months is not alot....in california its every 2 years

[Hauntd ca3]

Congrats on Passing WOF!!

And yeah he has to get WOF every 6 months there based on the age of his car, newer cars are once a year (I only know this cuz I read the NZ road code when I was bored)

getting the wof is a good feeling when you have old cars.
theyare a good idea even tho they are a complete pain
lets you pick up on probs nice and early before shit breaks
and man you must have been bored to read the road code
shame people here dont seem to read it very well
fuck there are sum morons onthe road

[AccordB20A]

WELLLLL no updates for ages on this car. i can now do the rest of the car audio as i have a new box built now. but the other day another gay alternator died on me!!! I think it might be my inefficient amplifier causing them to blow. cause with my adequite wiring/earthing/terminals and time spend on the install the lights on the car still dim with the bass. and maybe the alternator doesnt like it.

can anyone diagnose this: battery light goes off when the car starts, as normal, but the battery doesn't charge at idle. but if you rev the car up the lights will get brighter. its like its charging when i rev it higher.....

when the alt stopped working the battery light came on, i turned the car off and started it again, the light went out so i thought nothing of it....

[A18A]

worn brushes?

[AccordB20A]

i am hoping so. tried it out again before, car runs with battery not connectected. you can rev the car up and turn the lights and stereo on and it will idle with them going, turn the stereo up louder and louder and it keeps going.. lights dim as usual. then try winding a window down and it all dies. cant handle the amps im hoping its the brushes not leting enough current thru???

[AccordB20A]

i obtained another gearbox in exchange for a car shell and $20 cash yesterday. That makes a total of 4 B20A manual boxes on the property. i now have a spare for each car :)

the server munted so thats why the pics aint loading

[bullard123]

i obtained another gearbox in exchange for a car shell and $20 cash yesterday. That makes a total of 4 B20A manual boxes on the property. i now have a spare for each car :)

the server munted so thats why the pics aint loading
What about snoppyloppy's gear box? Do you have one for him? Im ready to ship that other B20A out to him as well

[AccordB20A]

yes i have 4 boxes not counting his. its packed up in a box to be shipped this month :):)
so he can get his beast rocking!!

[bullard123]

yes i have 4 boxes not counting his. its packed up in a box to be shipped this month :):)
so he can get his beast rocking!!
Cool. Thats great! I know he's excited about geting his project started too. I might have to get a spare from you too if you can come accross another one:)

[AccordB20A]

yeah theres a b18 one there still i saw yesterday but i chose the genuine gearbox over the b18 box. At least with the b18 box i only need to ship the bellhousing cause its compatible with the a20a gearbox.

I WANT MY CAMERA TO ARRIVE ALLREADY

[TWOLOUDNPROUD]

yeah theres a b18 one there still i saw yesterday but i chose the genuine gearbox over the b18 box. At least with the b18 box i only need to ship the bellhousing cause its compatible with the a20a gearbox.

I WANT MY CAMERA TO ARRIVE ALLREADY

how much for the B18a bellhousing i need it.

[AccordB20A]

well i dont have anything to trade with him anymore he usually lets gearboxes go for $100

[TWOLOUDNPROUD]

well i dont have anything to trade with him anymore he usually lets gearboxes go for $100

100 is cool but how much will be the shipping for the bellhousing to me?

[AccordB20A]

100 is cool but how much will be the shipping for the bellhousing to me?
well i cant imaging it weighing more than 5kg. just ran it thru the online rate finder and got around 60US to ship that

[TWOLOUDNPROUD]

well i cant imaging it weighing more than 5kg. just ran it thru the online rate finder and got around 60US to ship that

i will send you cash on july 15 if that cool with you.

[AccordB20A]

hmmmmm ill have to go down and talk to him. cause he might put it through his crushing thingee by then lol. but if you can promise promise me you want it i can probably go save it

[TWOLOUDNPROUD]

hmmmmm ill have to go down and talk to him. cause he might put it through his crushing thingee by then lol. but if you can promise promise me you want it i can probably go save it

Yes i do need it i just start to rebuild my other B20a to put in my hatch that why i need the bellhousing.

[AccordB20A]

sweet as.

[A18A]

still no camera?!?!?!?! thats so damn slack