H22A 89 Accord EX-i/SE-iv

[H2289Acc]

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Custom Tubular Front Crossmember
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It's just a guesstimate, but I imagine switching to the tubular front cross drops about 30-40lbs from the nose.
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Guttered Interior
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[H2289Acc]

Custom Flush Headlight Conversion
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Custom Flush Headlight Conversion Concept
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[87roach]

Shitson! Thats gonna be a sick car!! :jaw:

[knarg]

wow that swap looks awesome

i want that traction bar!

[AccordB20A]

what a machine. i would LOVE a ride in that haha if it runs yet?

[H2289Acc]

Thanks y'all. And oh yeah, she's runnin'!

[fogged]

Where did you get the mounts?
I found a shop today that said they have done 2 H22 swaps. They said 3000 for the swap, they will do the full swap, custom harnes, stand alone engine management. I have to give up the mounts, engine, and the cash.

[H2289Acc]

The mounts are for a 92-95 Civic H22 swap, and I think they are Hasport. Your guy is gonna have to custom fab the brackets for the mounts himself. Three questions: 1. Does he know this? 2. If he's done two of these swaps before, were they into a 3G Accord? 3. If they are a shop, how come they can't source these parts themselves?

Before you do anything, make sure these guys aren't a bunch of hacks. Before I did my swap I had guys telling me they could perform miracles just so they could get me into their shop with the cash. When they finally realized that I was talking about a 3G (because they didn't have a clue), they backed off quick-fast. I had my swap done at a real performance shop - Joe Conde, the owner of Altech Performance, drags with an H22A swapped CRX he built himself. He held the record for fastest all-motor import in Canada in 2004. What do these guys have?

[Hazwan]

I kinda like your headlight concept. Looks mean.

[fogged]

The mounts are for a 92-95 Civic H22 swap, and I think they are Hasport. Your guy is gonna have to custom fab the brackets for the mounts himself. Three questions: 1. Does he know this? 2. If he's done two of these swaps before, were they into a 3G Accord? 3. If they are a shop, how come they can't source these parts themselves?

Before you do anything, make sure these guys aren't a bunch of hacks. Before I did my swap I had guys telling me they could perform miracles just so they could get me into their shop with the cash. When they finally realized that I was talking about a 3G (because they didn't have a clue), they backed off quick-fast. I had my swap done at a real performance shop - Joe Conde, the owner of Altech Performance, drags with an H22A swapped CRX he built himself. He held the record for fastest all-motor import in Canada in 2004. What do these guys have?


He knows its going into a 3g Accord, and both swaps talked about were 3g Accord swaps. He had a photo book of pic of work done in house, and both of the H22 swaps were in the book. You can tell all the work was done at that shop. One of them belongs to a guy thats work for him. He did say fab work would be needed with any mounts I get. As for not sourcing the mounts them selves, I think its just a way to see what my will to do the swap is.
The owner of the shop is a customer of mine. Today was the first time Ive been in his shop. My son is haveing them do some custom turbo and intercooler work on his civic.

[H2289Acc]

That's cool. Go for it and keep me updated on the project.

Peace

Greg

[A18A]

cool, what a sleeper :D

[russiankid]

Nice swap...cant wait for vids. I really like that cross member, but it looks to me the radius arm mounts are a little weak?

[fogged]

:cheers: I love the work that you have done btw. Nice pics, cant wait to see some more or a vid. That things gonna be a monster.

[A18A]

I really like that cross member, but it looks to me the radius arm mounts are a little weak?

hey yeah tahts cool! and yeah they do look a little week lol

[Civic Accord Honda]

thats f'n sweet

[H2289Acc]

Nice swap...cant wait for vids. I really like that cross member, but it looks to me the radius arm mounts are a little weak?

Thanks and good point.

Well, the only way to really find that out is by doing some hardcore road tests. I'll keep you guys posted.

The only thing I can think of to improve on the strength of the setup is to re-fab a "U" shaped bracket extending around the sides of the rod bushings, thereby increasing lateral support from the cross. As a matter of fact, looking at it again, welding two plates to either side of the brackets and to the cross would probably do the trick.

Good lookin' out, btw.

[EricW]

Thanks and good point.

Well, the only way to really find that out is by doing some hardcore road tests. I'll keep you guys posted.

The only thing I can think of to improve on the strength of the setup is to re-fab a "U" shaped bracket extending around the sides of the rod bushings, thereby increasing lateral support from the cross. As a matter of fact, looking at it again, welding two plates to either side of the brackets and to the cross would probably do the trick.

Good lookin' out, btw.

I'm glad someone brought that up. I was thinking the same thing about how to strengthen them. Nice swap btw.

[frantik]

very clean set up.. not 100% sure on the lights but maybe when the tape isn't there it will look better lol ;)

[H2289Acc]

Here are a few more pics...

Custom 2.5" cat-back exhaust. Check out the plastic bag keeping the power steering fluid from dripping on the shop floor - now that's hot!
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Interior from the SE-i coming together. Those seats are from my old '88 EX-i. I never even saw the SE-i's leathers cuz they were already swapped with the crappy browns when I bought the car. I guess the 20 year old leathers must have been cracked up pretty bad. Luckily, I scored two black leather fronts from a GSR at the scrap yard for 50 bucks each! Just waiting for custom brackets for our seat rails.
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Here's the Stillen touring lip (94-97 Accord) I managed to custom fit to our 3G bumper. Unfortunately, the 6 cylinder model was out of stock and out of production; I probably wouldn't have had to extend the sides to fit because of the 6's longer nose. The 4 cylinder lip I picked up was the last one of it's breed and it was on clearance for 150 bucks (originally $450!). Believe it or not, I managed to extend the sides by cutting the corners out of a black plastic paint tray I got from Wal-Mart (that's Wal-Mart performance - yeah, baby!). Once it's all moulded together it should look alright.
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Another shot of the car right after the swap.
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The SE-i on its way out and dumped with no rear shocks. Lo-lo-lovely. Sure am gonna miss her...NOT!!! Well, maybe a little...
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[labeledsk8r]

nice looking swap. not feeling the lights very much... mayby some clear plexi over the opening would make it look cleaner.. im interested to see if the traction bar holds up aswell, home built?? oh and hope you got the rear brake setup off that se-i before you junked her. anyways nice work man, keep it up and keep us posted

[H2289Acc]

nice looking swap. not feeling the lights very much... mayby some clear plexi over the opening would make it look cleaner.. im interested to see if the traction bar holds up aswell, home built?? oh and hope you got the rear brake setup off that se-i before you junked her. anyways nice work man, keep it upand keep us posted


Yeah, plexi or lexan is in the works, but moulding it to the right shape is another story. Still trying to figure that out.

The traction bar was fabbed up by my mechanic. Cost me about 300 bucks. I'm wondering what "Q IS THE SQUAD"'s are gonna look like. Might be interested in one of those.

And you're damn right; that SE-i's stripped completely - suspension, brakes, interior, goodies from before, you name it! Still gotta take out that bronzed glass though. That's too hot to leave behind!

Anyway, thanks.

Peace

[mushroom_toy]

Props for the swap...but not for the lights lol.

[H2289Acc]

Props for the swap...but not for the lights lol.


That's cool. Thanks.

[Tomisimo]

really nice.. Thumbs up!!
I see u have painted engine room in gold, any hints an what color the car will be?

I noticed gear leaver is original, dont you going to shorten it?

Althou its a mean machine right there!!

[russiankid]

Thanks and good point.

Well, the only way to really find that out is by doing some hardcore road tests. I'll keep you guys posted.

The only thing I can think of to improve on the strength of the setup is to re-fab a "U" shaped bracket extending around the sides of the rod bushings, thereby increasing lateral support from the cross. As a matter of fact, looking at it again, welding two plates to either side of the brackets and to the cross would probably do the trick.

Good lookin' out, btw.

No problem don't want anything bad happening.

[snoopyloopy]

wow, i haven't seen you around for the longest. good to see you're still at it. and that you've finally put a filter on that intake, lol.

[87roach]

I think the lights will turn out nice. Props to you for trying something different(not to mention the h22... :D) and im lovin the gold!

I was also going to comment on that crossbar but my suggestion has been already said(just weld some flat bar onto that open part).

I'm liking the work on the bumper, but I think you'll have to lower it pretty good to make it look the best. Also the black on tan combo interior is good, are you going to keep it? Along with the gold theme... hmm what colour is the car going to be :D

[H2289Acc]

really nice.. Thumbs up!!
I see u have painted engine room in gold, any hints an what color the car will be?

I noticed gear leaver is original, dont you going to shorten it?

Althou its a mean machine right there!!

Thanks.

I was planning on painting the exterior the same colour in the spring. I don't think I have much of a chioce now. You can't see it in the pics, but the engine bay has gold metal flake in it. It was a last minute idea I had just before the car went into the spray booth. I think I'm going to leave the metal flake out - I'm not too crazy about it, although it is starting to grow on me. It's just too flashy, in my opinion anyway.

As far as the shifter goes, I will change it; I just have to find a short shift kit and make sure it's compatible.

[H2289Acc]

wow, i haven't seen you around for the longest. good to see you're still at it. and that you've finally put a filter on that intake, lol.

What's up Snoop? Yeah, I'm still at it. It's a labour of love - you all know what I'm talkin' about. And you're still a joker I see. lol :cheers:

Hey Snoop, btw, what was that pic in your post? All I can see is that box with the red "X" in it.

[race12001]

nice dude that cars goin to be sick when you get done with it i love the flush headlights keep us updated with lots of pics

[H2289Acc]

I think the lights will turn out nice. Props to you for trying something different(not to mention the h22... :D) and im lovin the gold!

I was also going to comment on that crossbar but my suggestion has been already said(just weld some flat bar onto that open part).

I'm liking the work on the bumper, but I think you'll have to lower it pretty good to make it look the best. Also the black on tan combo interior is good, are you going to keep it? Along with the gold theme... hmm what colour is the car going to be :D

From what I've gotten so far, it's either people really, really like what i've done with the lights, or they really, really don't like them at all.

I've seen a few conversions from pop-up to flush - RX-7, Miata, NSX, etc., but these were all out of the box kits. Trust me, this headlight project has been about three years in the making (some of you might remember I only had three lights mounted on my SE-i, lol), and it's not easy trying to do it yourself. I finally got the brackets right (made 'em one piece) after two attempts. After going through about six sheets of lexan (the shit ain't cheap!), using the original cover as a template and a heat gun, in an attempt to produce an acceptable prototype of a cover, I've all but given up. With the lexan I experienced bubbling, warping, fogging, scratches, etc, and figured out that it's not the easiest material to work with. Then I got the idea of incorporating part of the original HL cover, cut on a diagonal (like you see in the pics), and filling in the remainder of the opening with the lexan; it should be somewhat easier to make something for the smaller opening rather than having to re-create the whole cover. My idea now is to have what's left of the cover welded to the hood (instead of taped, lol), and then create a boxed enclosure for the housing underneath out of lexan or plexi. This time I'm going to try to form the lexan by throwing it in the oven. Wish me luck - I'm gonna need it!

I know what you mean about the bumper, and I'm planning on lowering the car quite a bit. The interior's going to stay, and I scooped some black leather GSR seats that should compliment it nicely. Just need to have some brackets fabbed up so they can be mounted to the original rails. If you read the post above, I'm stickin' with the gold cuz that's been the theme and my intention since day one, beginning with the '88 EX-i I had from '96 to '02.

[87roach]

I was going to ask if you were still going to use the housing or make it part of the hood since the housing is not functional anymore the hood incorperation would be much nicer so good choice!

I believe thegreatdane did something quite similar with the hood but since he has different lights he didn't have to fab up anything this crazy.

It's gonna look real sweet man, I like the steering wheel too! Make sure when you figure out your lexan/plexi form to post on how you did it here, something like that could save a lot of time for others :D

What part of toronto are you in? I've got gran-folks in Etobicoke(I like this area! its not too far from anything and still quiet) and cousins in Don Mills.

Oh and show up those fabbed brackets when you get them too, I could use new seats forsure haha.

[stat1K]

please don't put that front bumper on.

[Civic Accord Honda]

please don't put that front bumper on. :slap:
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i think the hood mock up seems better then one peace plexi imo

[Tomisimo]

As far as the shifter goes, I will change it; I just have to find a short shift kit and make sure it's compatible.
About that, I believe that short shift from prelude 86-92 will work fine, correct me if I'm wrong..



I believe thegreatdane did something quite similar with the hood but since he has different lights he didn't have to fab up anything this crazy.

indeed, it might be easier to just replace the hood from a EDM/JDM type and make those evil eyes than weld those covers to USDM bonnet..
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/02072007087.jpg
I did on my too...

[turabaka]

About that, I believe that short shift from prelude 86-92 will work fine, correct me if I'm wrong..


you are correct. I have one on my car. It bolts in with no modification at all. If you want to set it at the shortest shift though, then the heat shield needs to be hammered in a little bit.

[H2289Acc]

About that, I believe that short shift from prelude 86-92 will work fine, correct me if I'm wrong..



indeed, it might be easier to just replace the hood from a EDM/JDM type and make those evil eyes than weld those covers to USDM bonnet..
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/02072007087.jpg
I did on my too...

That looks sweet! It sounds like a great idea, but I don't know if the hood would even fit??? Plus I might have to change the grill entirely; the hoods on our cars curve up on either side of the front-bottom edge to incorporate the plastic end pieces in the grill that line up with the lids of our HL covers.

How did you make yours? Didn't you have to weld those pieces in anyway? I thought that's how The Great Dane did his.

[H2289Acc]

I was going to ask if you were still going to use the housing or make it part of the hood since the housing is not functional anymore the hood incorperation would be much nicer so good choice!

I believe thegreatdane did something quite similar with the hood but since he has different lights he didn't have to fab up anything this crazy.

It's gonna look real sweet man, I like the steering wheel too! Make sure when you figure out your lexan/plexi form to post on how you did it here, something like that could save a lot of time for others :D

What part of toronto are you in? I've got gran-folks in Etobicoke(I like this area! its not too far from anything and still quiet) and cousins in Don Mills.

Oh and show up those fabbed brackets when you get them too, I could use new seats forsure haha.

What's up Roach?

Thanks for the input.

I just moved from Mississauga in September after splitting with the ex; lived there for almost six years near 10 & the Q.E.W. I grew up in T.O. and gladly moved back. I'm livin' in the High Park area now. My dad still lives on the Etobicoke border, just minutes from Sherway, and you're right, it's a nice area; I lived there for a couple years myself.

If you ever visit your fam out here, give me a link and we'll hook up.

I'll be sure to keep you guys posted on the lights and seats situations. You do the same with your build. Looks like it's comin' along nicely. That engine is clean, man - sweet! Keep it up.

Peace

[Tomisimo]

How did you make yours? Didn't you have to weld those pieces in anyway? I thought that's how The Great Dane did his.

Yes I got to weld the peaces just like thegreatdane did.. here is some photos :D
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the EDM bonnet will fit like it suppose to be there and I can agree that grill will be a problem, because it bolts to the headlights..

[HondaSi88]

nice swap..........i remember when dudes would kill for h22's. Now everyone is into srt's,wrx's and evo's.....

Stock body with a fresh paint job would look sick!

[-Rotu-]

If you would have covered the entire opening, then it would have looked a little bit like the 5.gen Prelude (Y)

But now it looks quite good also:)

[bobafett]

hey just wanted to say I love the project!
that crossmember has me thinking about building one just like it so I can gain some room for adding a downpipe to my car. :)

keep up the good work, i will definitely keep checking on this thread!

[H2289Acc]

Finally getting her all back together. Here are a few more pics (they're a little shaky), with the dash back in and the leather GSR's installed.
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I've got a 3" custom cold air intake welded together into one piece (sweet!). I'll get pics up as soon as I install it.

[Civic Accord Honda]

nice i want to see pics

[2oodoor]

looking good !
about that lexan, you can get optical grade and it holds up much better, they sell it here by the inch so you dont have to buy a whole 4x8 sheet.
Also you can bend lexan in a sheet metal brake, might eliminate some of those other problems you described too.
and... never ever use chlorinated brake clean around lexan, that is the one thing I have found that will destroy that stuff, especially around a drill hole, it will make it shatter (kind of a quiet though lol, like you turn you back and turn around and wtf happened? )

[russiankid]

I like the black seats, keep up the excellent work!

[coope]

i will give my left nut for ur car dude if u want to make a trade i will ship for free lol

[H2289Acc]

i will give my left nut for ur car dude if u want to make a trade i will ship for free lol

Thanks, but I have two already.:cheers:

[H2289Acc]

looking good !
about that lexan, you can get optical grade and it holds up much better, they sell it here by the inch so you dont have to buy a whole 4x8 sheet.
Also you can bend lexan in a sheet metal brake, might eliminate some of those other problems you described too.
and... never ever use chlorinated brake clean around lexan, that is the one thing I have found that will destroy that stuff, especially around a drill hole, it will make it shatter (kind of a quiet though lol, like you turn you back and turn around and wtf happened? )

Thanks Roo. I will definitely go that route. Since my post before last, I gave it another serious go with some lexan from Home Depot. The result was far from perfect - rather pathetic I might say. I used the plastic eyelid from the original headlight assembly as the bottom part of my mould and tried to bend the lexan around it with my heat gun. What started out looking okay ended up looking like crap after trying to smooth out the imperfections.
I'll give your suggestion a shot and let you know how it works out. Other than that, anybody know of any companies that do lexan forming/moulding for custom apps?

[H2289Acc]

About that, I believe that short shift from prelude 86-92 will work fine, correct me if I'm wrong...

With my H22 swap, everything was converted - including the rod shift linkage. Since it's now cable, I've only got a few options:
DC, Neuspeed, and e-bay offer short shift adapters for the cable linkage. Only problem is, I can't find a shift lever that will further decrease the length of the throws for a 92-96 lude. This adapter will reduce the throws by up to 30%. There are applications for other cars that offer the adapter plus the lever and will reduce throws by 30 and then another 50% with the addition of the lever. Like some of you already know, the Pacesetter Quik-Shift kit for our 3rd gens claims to reduce throws by up to 80%. The only thing I can do next to having a lever custom made is to chop the original in half. Anyone know otherwise?

[2oodoor]

well if I was doing it, I would buy the lexan at a local glass shop, commercial glass shop. I would then go to a sheet metal shop or either buy a small sheet metal brake from harbor frieght tools. If you know anybody in the HVAC biz they have access to sheet metal brakes for making duct work.
A lot of race car builders use lexan, and have people that do the shaping and cutting.
You could possibly shape it using stud boards and a vise but you may gouge it , lexan bends even past 90 degrees without any problems but it takes a good bit of presssue.. a brake does a nice job of it.