new audiovox AX510

[lostforawhile]

i thought i would post some progress on the install of the new audiovox ax 510 car alarm i'm putting in,for security reasons i'm not going to post some info,but other stuff i will
the harness for the shock sensor and the special dual color LED wasn't long enough so i ended up extending it. i don't believe in the slap it behind the dash with zip ties garbage.
if you are going to put in an alarm this complex,it takes time. everything in the new harness is soldered and heatshrunk. i extended the harness and added the connectors
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b205/moultriemanicmechanic/S4020195.jpg
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one thing i hate about alarm installs is they always have a hole in the dash that looks like crap,for the LED. i was using a factory nissan security indicator, which worked well,but the new LED is a special dual color one. the factory indicator had an led that snapped into the back of it with a plug. this required me to make an aluminum adaptor,that epoxied into the housing.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b205/moultriemanicmechanic/S4020196.jpg
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i'm adding power door locks to this setup, so i modified a rear drivers side power window switch. it should fit nicely under the edge of the armrest.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b205/moultriemanicmechanic/S4020198.jpg
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[lostforawhile]

heres the door lock diagram http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/wiring.jpg?t=1201051104

[lostforawhile]

ok a new project part of this, i am getting rid of he ugly levers on the floor in front of the drivers seat, so i need a solonoid for the hatch and the gas door,i already have the hatch one in,and it's been in for some time. i finally found a solonoid at the yard after searching about 50 cars. it was on an old buick granny mobile.
solonoid after being modified
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and the new switch location in the glovebox,this is the box i found at the yard,it's going to be painted black to match the new dash color. it's also going to be motorized,so the latch will disappear. no more latch.
the switches
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020209.jpg
the jig for drilling the switch holes
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the switch housing will be painted black when i'm done
bridgeport cam while making the switch housing
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/th_S4020202.jpg (http://s220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/?action=view&current=S4020202.flv)

[forrest89sei]

Looking good

[lostforawhile]

brain with all it's harnesses connected http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020212.jpg

[Vanilla Sky]

Great to see someone installing an alarm like is should be.

Nice work, once again.

[russiankid]

Tim your car will weight more than 2 tons when you are done with it, but yet again its going to be kick ass! Keep up the good work!

[lostforawhile]

well i cleaned out some of my shop so i can use my bench. then i can build the harnesses up. just came in from putting wire together.

[labeledsk8r]

looks good tim, good to see someone else getting rid of the cable system on the trunk and gas door pop, might do this mod myself. my oldsmobile got me lazy on pushing butons

[lostforawhile]

yea i just wired the system for the power door locks,i decided to just put the switch in the center console,saves me running a lot of wires into the doors. plus i can mount the relays to the relay board with the rest of them. all i need to do is run two wires out,this runs to both actuators,and two wires from the switch. the other wire at the switch grounds. i wish it would quit raining so i could do something more then bench wiring.

[lostforawhile]

relay board and door lock control unit http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020215.jpg

[MessyHonda]

relay mayhem..

[Civic Accord Honda]

holly snap wires and relys of hell lol

[lostforawhile]

the gas door solonoid is in,i haven't tested it electrically yet,because the battery is out for the moment,but if i pull the solonoid it works mechanically. i figure if it can open the trunk on that big granny mobile, it can pop the gas door on the hatch. i figured out what to do with where the original hatch cable connects,after i remove it,i will get another solonoid to put in the hatch to pull on where the cable used to attach.i already have one to open the hatch by remote. i will put a hidden switch somewhere on the body and use 8 duracell batteries to operate that solonoid. thats my backup in case the battery is ever dead. completly independent of the cars electrical system. that way i can get rid of the hatch lock completly. and have no locks on the body anywhere. http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020216.jpg
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sorry it's so dark,this is before i had to move it over another inch. i used stainless bolts and washers to fill in the unused holes.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020218.jpg

[lostforawhile]

i'll test the solonoid tomorow

[lostforawhile]

well i didn't get to test the solonoid, but i did make a really nice aluminum spacer for the window switch i modified for the door locks, too bad my camera batteries are dead. i'm going to put it on the flat part of the console where the e brake is. i needed to move it up so the wiring would clear. i had figured out all the measurements before hand and was doing it on the DRO, for some reason all my measurements were off,and i ended up fucking it all up. so i said screw it and fixed it by hand. now the switch fits in perfectly. go figure.sometimes you have to say screw the digital shit and use the force.

[lostforawhile]

all right i got one picture out of those batteries,i still have to paint it with self etch and paint it trim black. http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020219.jpg

[lostforawhile]

all right going to be nice tomorrow,after work i will start actually running wires

[lostforawhile]

couple of pics of the door lock switch in this thread. http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63728

[lostforawhile]

ok another six hours of wiring,and i give up for the day. more tomorrow.
new fuse block is in
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020227.jpg
better pic of the solonoid that operates the gas door
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020228.jpg
i posted this because it's a good way to join a number of high current connections with large wires, you simply crimp ring connectors on the wires,put the proper size bolt through the ring connectors,and tighten it down. just make sure to use a nylock bolt because it needs to remain tight. after this tape it well with quality tape,tape in one direction,then the other. now you have a secure high current connection.
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lunchtime
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me
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wiring hell
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covered back up for the day
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[Civic Accord Honda]

looking good lost

[lostforawhile]

yay!! i just figured out how to make the lights pop up my modifying a switch internally. i need to get a small double pole double throw electronic relay. basically you have to modify the small circuit board inside of a switch you have to cut one trace then solder wires to it and wire that through one set of normally closed contacts then you solder wire to two other contacts and solder those to contacts that close when the relay is energized. so when you power the relay the system thinks the manual switch is closed. the tiny lever switch in the switch is a single pole double throw switch.

[lostforawhile]

my back is killing me,got under the dash and installed the shock sensor and the LEd back in the dash, being under the dash while laying on the door sill is not fun.

[lostforawhile]

ok since the weather won't cooperate with me,i brought one of the relay boards inside and finished wiring it. spahetti anyone? this is channel 2 ,3, 4 plus the door lock controls and the dome light control relay. the subharness for the other three relays is out of the car at the moment. there are two more boards like this also. i have a headache at the moment. strange thing is in all the years i've been doing this stuff,i never have made up circuit diagrams or written anything down. i keep it all upstairs. the entire board needs to unplug so i can install the carpet later also. .http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020241-1.jpg

[lostforawhile]

am uploading a short video right now, lots of work to do yet,i did get a bunch of wiring done today though, and i tested the hatch release and the gas door release.

[lostforawhile]

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/th_spaghettiwiring.jpg (http://s220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/?action=view&current=spaghettiwiring.flv)

[lostforawhile]

more stuff, actuators came in
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020253.jpg
new lxi door handles from the back of a four door with no lock holes,i'm painting them trim black to make stealth dx handles
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020254.jpg
new emergency solonoid to pop the hatch if the battery goes dead
it will have it's own 12 volt backup power supply
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another wiring harness mess
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[Vanilla Sky]

Ahh, using the metal LXi handles, I see.

Most people don't realize that the DX handles are crappy plastic, while the painted handles are metal. The difference in feel and build quality is enormous.

[MessyHonda]

Ahh, using the metal LXi handles, I see.

Most people don't realize that the DX handles are crappy plastic, while the painted handles are metal. The difference in feel and build quality is enormous.


yes very strong and they dont fade

[lostforawhile]

Ahh, using the metal LXi handles, I see.

Most people don't realize that the DX handles are crappy plastic, while the painted handles are metal. The difference in feel and build quality is enormous.metal handles stripped and ready for self etch primer then paint to become "plastic" handles.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020258.jpg

[lostforawhile]

got an idea,since my valet/override switch is custom programmed with a personal code,and doesn't matter if anyone finds it or not,i deceided to use an old wired kodak remote control for a slide projector for the button. when i don't need it i can just unplug it and store it. thought it might be a unique custom touch.

[87roach]

Tons of work your doing here lost, all the wiring is crazyness. It would be really nice if you could make your pictures smaller.

[lostforawhile]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4303676612457452523

[forrest89sei]

Looking Good

[lostforawhile]

tomorrow i'll tackle the mess on the rear floor pan. maby if i get all that hooked up and straightened out it will seem to be going somewhere. it is it just takes forever.

[lostforawhile]

little bit more done, i needed a panel to mount the switch that gives me the option of making the lights pop up on disarm, and i needed a location to mount the programming port. so i made this nice little panel out of aluminum,and upholstered it. should look really nice with black carpet in. i utilized the large rectangular hole in the seat beam,that was already there.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020262.jpg
also some more progress on the wiring it's all coming together into harnesses,one wire at a time.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020263.jpg

[lostforawhile]

russian.heres your cable you sent thanks you!! http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020264.jpg?t=1203566994

[Civic Accord Honda]

looking good

[lostforawhile]

stupid rain can't do anything,so i brought the relay board in and finished it up. http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020276.jpg?t=1203657516

[lostforawhile]

got out there and got some more done,i am actually working out of my shop now,instead of in the yard.
made a nice box for the relay board,that fits under the seat,it has an upholstered piece for the part you can see behind the seat,it's just off in these pics.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020277.jpg
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all the mess of wires are finally stating to come together into a harness,not a mess
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020279.jpg
now the mess is on my bench not in the car
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020282.jpg?t=1204601766
I want to get this section done,and everything tied down and in place, then i can work on removing the dashboard to finish the rest of the wiring. i would have gotten more done,but for the gunfire going on,so i gave up for the night.

[knarg]

lost, you do some AMAZING homebrew electronics work

[lostforawhile]

i just put up another post on some of thw wire tucking i did for some of these wires,so i'll just link it here. http://www.3geez.com/forum/showpost.php?p=871360&postcount=73

[lostforawhile]

more done.ready to put the bumper back on, now have the oil cooler blower wired, one of the alarm sirens,all the wiring that controls the driving and parking lights, and the turn signals in the driving lights,alarm pin switch for the hood,the cruise control harness is in and done, harness is run for the cooler oil pressure sender,the temp switch for the oil cooler fan, wiring is in for the parking lights, fuel pressure sender harness, 2 gauge wire for the battery relocation later, the harness for the switch for the fog,driving lights, lots of work today and the bumper can finallly go back in. if anyone has a set of corner markers for sale let me know,i had one under the hood when i closed it and smashed it :banghead:, had to pull the fender again dammit. but it's back in now.
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[Civic Accord Honda]

lost u should get some JDM markers

[lostforawhile]

well it's 2:30 am just got the bumper back on,everything fit nicely in there. one turn signal in,the other still needs to have a plug soldered to it. it's a bitch lining up those pieces that the bumper slides into holding it yourself. mine weighs a bit too with the lights.
wanted to bring up a point on one of these pics, you have to watch the details when you wire, notice the split piece of air line over the wires, if i hadn't put that there,eventually the sharp edge of the blower air intake would have shorted them out. thats the kind of stuff you need to look out for,think,where are my wires going to run? are they going to get pinched? or burned? or caught in something moving? think how the oem wiring is run,take your time and don't take shortcuts. http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020440.jpg

[Cheeseburger]

cool!

[lostforawhile]

well so far turning into rewiring the entire car. http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020538.jpg
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[lostforawhile]

ok update,i have the major harnesses built,and ready to go in the car,so it's just a matter of putting them in and connecting everything together. just haven't had much time. i also ran across a vintage pioneer eq/amp today, so it's going under the glovebox,and getting used for the voice module amplification. too cool not to put in the car,haven't seen one in years. also found a vintage realistic stereo power booster. and a shaft radio,which turned out to be an eight track deck. those go in my vintage audio stuff. all the main harness pieces are wrapped up and have multi pin molex plugs,so when the harnesses are in everything just plugs up. all the loose wires at the ends,will be trimmed and soldered to the other harnesses. http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020019.jpg
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[Civic Accord Honda]

sweet! and is that ur new valve cover under the EQ?

and u might wanna resize the pics lol

[lostforawhile]

sweet! and is that ur new valve cover under the EQ?

and u might wanna resize the pics lolthats skaters valve cover i don't know why my pics resized so big so much crap on photobucket now

[lostforawhile]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiQ286O1HoE

[lostforawhile]

bump for video

[lostforawhile]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J14AhRFiYOY

[lostforawhile]

haven't had much time to work on it,lots of stuff going on, as soon as i make some more progress i will post up here

[lostforawhile]

well more stuff done,this is the fuse panel that will mount up in the passenger footwell next to the washer fluid tank. this is a 12 circuit panel and will operate a lot of things like the illumination circuits,the mirrors ,the cruise, etc. this will have a matching upholstered cover like the washer tank does. all the wiring in it isn't done yet of course.
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[russiankid]

You think you have enough wires Tim? Keep up the good work man, I like your soldering iron.

[lostforawhile]

yea the part of the harness i built that runs from under the glovebox over,i'm going to redo it,I decided to make each circuit have it's own individual fuse instead of burying inline fuses under the dash.

[lostforawhile]

going to go get wire from nappa going to end the harness under the dash with a plug,then build a sub harness for all the switches etc.

[russiankid]

When are you going to finish this thing? Are you ever going to drive it? Last time I remember, this project has been going on for two years now?

[lostforawhile]

well i'm finishing the harness right now,it's about done. i'm working on mounting this new fusebox at the moment. with no rain,going to get it out of the garage this weekend and put the primary harness back in. I have to finish the oil pressure line in the garage or i could cap it off where it comes from the block, then back it out and finish it. might work better.

[lostforawhile]

well i started it this year actually just been a lot of shit going on is all. finally getting some of it done. it's not just the alarm wiring,i'm working on a bunch of different projects at once here. a lot of them are done and in the house, just waiting for installation. some stuff no one has even seen yet. it's really hard to get out there and work when it's close to a hundred in the shade and the humidity is almost a hundred percent. been that way for months stuff just sitting on my bench is mildewing for crying out loud. the moisture just sits and you can't get rid of it. I did find what kills the mildew that is forming on my plastic, plain old rubbing alcohol. found that on the mcquires site. you can wipe it off but it comes back,but the rubbing alcohol kills it. plus it cleans plastic well. I mean i have most of the interior out, it looks a mess but it all has to be done in a certain sequence. this harness goes back in then the center console area then the glovebox etc. I also ran all the heavy 2 gauge wires for the battery stuff. also i just found someone local that carries the 200 amp main breaker for the battery. I would never think look in a motor home supply store for high amperage 12 volt breaker assemblies. and Buss brand too. at the moment broke too, because of bullshit beyond my control so it's also waiting on money.

[lostforawhile]

I've actually done a lot to it, even in the heat, have the voice module in and tested, ran all new wiring for the amps and the crossover networks as well as the subs. everything in the back end of the car has been rewired, including new wiring for the monitor. I also ran a ton of wiring under the hood for the siren the oil cooler blower the fog lights turn signals etc. there are twenty relays crammed neatly into the corner under the bumper around the blower motor. I also got all the nice work done on the valve cover and got it installed. as well as the spark plug wire holders and new wires in. so i've been really busy actually. oh don't forget i installed my aircraft sidemarker lights.

[lostforawhile]

sorry for the long overdue update, just built the anti carjacking, fuel pump disable, lighting circuit isolator and a lighting disable circuit for the voice module, keeps betty from yackking every time the alarm flashes the parking lamps. I don't mind putting it up here, even if someone knows where it is, there is no way in hell they will understand my logic or how it actually works, and if they cut the wires, well they are screwed. I won't go into any more details then that. I don't think in normal logic when it comes to alarm stuff, I do things wacky and backwards which no one who is sane will figure out. I listen to a lot of Hendrix when i'm wiring shit too, I make diagrams of which wire goes to what in the car but no circuit diagrams, just figure it out as I go.
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[lostforawhile]

bumped it back up since the site crashed just after I posted last night/this morning

[ecogabriel]

[QUOTE=lostforawhile;1009024] I listen to a lot of Hendrix when i'm wiring shit too, I make diagrams of which wire goes to what in the car but no circuit diagrams, just figure it out as I go.
[QUOTE]

As long as you draw inspiration from listening to Hendrix only it is OK. I hope you would not get inspiration the "Hendrix way"
I came across a very, very "funny" article yesterday... Someone came with the idea that those on unemployment in GA may have to undergo random drug testing...

http://www.ajc.com/news/law-would-require-drug-376097.html

Is there any way to get those clowns to do something that REALLY matters???

BAck to more serious stuff, I like that "backwards logic" thing...
Keep it up, and I hope you won't get gills out of all the rain we are seeing around here... I'm rusting already!

[lostforawhile]

I don't mind the test but I have to pay for it out of my pocket? it's bad enough they are trying to punish me for drawing unemployment by cutting off my wifes disability and medicaid. I couldn't build this kind of stuff if i was under the influence of any kind of chemical, you have to use your brain.

[Dr_Snooz]

Your work is always on another level Lost. Great to see you out working on the car again. Keep it up, especially when you aren't working. It will keep you from going completely nuts.

[ecogabriel]

I don't mind the test but I have to pay for it out of my pocket? it's bad enough they are trying to punish me for drawing unemployment by cutting off my wifes disability and medicaid. I couldn't build this kind of stuff if i was under the influence of any kind of chemical, you have to use your brain.

I know that you need your mind 101% to do whatever is creative or working on a problem; those who draft those things do not know it. It seems to me that they don't need to use their minds... or maybe there is not a mind up there.

What drives me nuts is the underlying logic behind all of this -those on public assistance have something faulty with them. Making anecdotal inference out of a few cases may be good at election time but as policy guidance is crap. :blah:
How come one explains the epidemic outburst of people on public assistance programs during the last year or so? How does one explain the pandemic scope of this -unemployment on the rise in so many different places?

It's good to see that you got your motivation back. :)


Your work is always on another level Lost. Great to see you out working on the car again. Keep it up, especially when you aren't working. It will keep you from going completely nuts.

Keeping yourself busy is good

[lostforawhile]

I know that you need your mind 101% to do whatever is creative or working on a problem; those who draft those things do not know it. It seems to me that they don't need to use their minds... or maybe there is not a mind up there.

What drives me nuts is the underlying logic behind all of this -those on public assistance have something faulty with them. Making anecdotal inference out of a few cases may be good at election time but as policy guidance is crap. :blah:
How come one explains the epidemic outburst of people on public assistance programs during the last year or so? How does one explain the pandemic scope of this -unemployment on the rise in so many different places?

It's good to see that you got your motivation back. :)



Keeping yourself busy is goodthanks, they treat me like i did something wrong because i'm laid off, I've been with this company ten years. the logic i was told was to make me find another job, the issue is i'm on emergency unemployment, i have a callback, so why am i required to find a different job when there are none?