How do i fix this?

[Demon1024]

Some one here help me i got two parts cars everything i need motor still good you think it'll still drive?
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and this

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Guess what i hit i'll give you a hint it has blue lights on top of it. anyone?

[2ndGenGuy]

You hit a K-Mart special aisle? Man I hate when that happens.

I wouldn't try to drive that thing anywhere man. Sorry to hear you wrecked it. Glad you're okay at least... what exactly happened?

Maybe if you can replace the rear subframe and all the suspension you could drive it. I'm sure your alignment will never be the same again though. Always amazing how those back windows hold together.

[Demon1024]

the window thing confused the hell outta me! there's a crack in the dash from my head but thats the only glass damage to it. I don't know much bout the rear sus but i'm still glad it hit there. would i need a welder to replace it? i've got an 87 same as 88? i no the front isn't but don't know there. i can get that huge dent cut out and replaced but the shock towers i'm kinda worried about how do you fix that?

[2ndGenGuy]

I dunno man. Unless you've got a huge attachment to the car, I'd write it off and pick up a non running hatch for like $200-300 and swap all your good stuff into it. It would be a lot less work and a lot safer.

[Demon1024]

Danm it. i do like this car but work sucks i've got 2 nonrunners now but i've put a LOT of work into this one. crap i'm gonna have to paint another hatch black.CRAP!

[A18A]

:( looks like the frame got bent a little bit, id be surprised if all new suspension would line up & bolt on

[Demon1024]

I didn't think these cars had "frames" so to speak.i've heard of straightening frames,dont know the cost but it looks like this one's a bust huh. i guess there was a good reason i never scraped those other 3gs. now i get to do a auto to manual conversion too! at least the others are mostly intact other than the engines it shouldn't be to hard maybe a weekend or two. i just hate to have to move this engine back out of this car it's only been in there a month or so.

[Hazwan]

I wouldn't fix that, way to much work and money and its never gonna be the same again.

Get all the good parts transfered to the other car?

[russiankid]

Like everyone else said its not worth fixing. The car will never drive the same again, so it will be better to find a non-running hatch and just swap all the stuff over. It will save you money in the long run even though it may seem like you need a lot of work to swap things over.

[2drSE-i]

how the hell did you hit a cop??? im curious now

[MessyHonda]

get another car

[AccordEpicenter]

theres no way id fix that, even if it happend to my turboaccord

[lostforawhile]

hey there are some small trim pieces off of that i need for mine,pm me and we will work something out. sorry to see another hatch ruined, and theres no way to fix that.

[Civic Accord Honda]

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u hit kmart hard!

[Demon1024]

technicaly he hit me! you need 88 hatch peices lost? still got the 87 and 86 so what ever you need not sure which i'm gonna transfer into yet. i'm taking bet that i have one running/drivin by next weekend any takers?

[GraniteLXI]

Damn, thats a prick... you still need to explain exactly how it happened... and you have so much more then oil pump to worry about now :(

[lostforawhile]

technicaly he hit me! you need 88 hatch peices lost? still got the 87 and 86 so what ever you need not sure which i'm gonna transfer into yet. i'm taking bet that i have one running/drivin by next weekend any takers?oh i need the small trim piece over the rear quarter windows on each side,you take off the trim from around the window after removing the glass, then those trims slide toward the front of the car. i think that piece is the same. also the small trim pieces in the roof line the ones at the back after the doors i need those .if the hatch is trash best way to remove them is to cut the old headliner and you'll see the plastic push in pieces that hold them sticking through the roof into inside,you need to push them up from the inside. i broke al the clips on mine trying to remove them from above. if they came off the 86 would be better but i tnink those pieces are the same.

[lostforawhile]

i [possibly might need tails too if you got em

[RamThis]

Beatin a dead horse, but yeah, the car's a gonner. You'd have WAY more man-hours in trying to make the car visually straight again, only to be discouraged to find out the unibody is tweaked and will never align straight again. This one's toast.

Transfer all the good stuff or whatever you need off it to get one of the other cars running reliably, and strip this one down for scrap metal.

[Demon1024]

Well i guess it's good scraps so high right now.

[coope]

i'll take that bet

[Demon1024]

I'm takeing a break from it right now. literally. I'm going back out to remove one more cv axel and pull the motor trans. that the pedals/ecu and i'm of to the other car to start swapping. took the whole knuckels/ shocks. The bet is for a adjustable cam gear. you in? hell i don't have one if i lost i just know it'll get done:)
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not even my gas cap made it!
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PROGRESS dismanteling
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Now i'm going back to pull the engine

[Demon1024]

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And now i'm off to the other
course i still have to come back and get the pedals clutch cable and sway bar+bushings ecu but so far so good
I'm swapping an 88 engine/5-speed and ecu to a 86 auto any helpful suggestions?/what not to forget?
oh gotta get the shifter too!

[Demon1024]

Got it in but ran outta time to hook everything back up. swapping the pedals was a hell of a lot more difficult than i thought it would be. still curious to see if this will work i guess i should look at the pinups for the 86 and 88 see if there're the same what new wires to run...

[Demon1024]

Has anyone here done this? swapping an 88-89 motor and ecu into a 86-87. I skimmed over the pinouts but haven't looked into it to much yet should be going out there on sat night. Anything bout the interior wiring harness have to change? i figure i can swap pins if necessary, but anything in the engine bay i would also swap? did the black box. is that all? Help me here i'd like to be informed as possible when i go there.

[Civic Accord Honda]

im pretty sure its all the same as long as they both lxis

[russiankid]

im pretty sure its all the same as long as they both lxis

The 88-89 had two O2 sensors, so that could play a role. He may have to swap over the engine harness.

[lostforawhile]

you could just pull an engine harness from the engine you are putting in and swap the entire harness, it's not that hard to swap a complete harness, i'm sure it will be different with the dual sensors, at least the harness to the computer will be.

[Civic Accord Honda]

The 88-89 had two O2 sensors, so that could play a role. He may have to swap over the engine harness. oh yeah forgot about the 8687 only haveing one

[Demon1024]

got the engine harness,just left each one on it's respective engine. do you think i'll have to change the one in the driverside quarter panel. maybe just run the extra wires for the iacv and extra O2? thats the only difference though right?

[Demon1024]

guess i'll figure it out tomorrow when i go back i'll let ya know what i had to do to make it go right

[Demon1024]

well i figured out a couple of things. the main harness from the88 goes to the driverside and hooks in near the resitor for the injectors,well one fits the other is male male and has three extra pins. i know 2 are the iacv anyone know what the other is?
duh the extra O2 sensor haven't check yet but i'm sure thats it

[Demon1024]

i was wrong on the extra wire it goes to the egr this has gotten confusing. what are the three wires going to the egr. signal/ground/? i can't find the coresponding wire to it the ecu only has 2 connection to the egr from what i see. but it has 3 wires the egr

[Demon1024]

still haven't figured out that extra wire. runs and drives now tho just doesn't start with the key headlights and fan have to be hard wired,but all in due time now it's at my house where it will flourish

[Bass Man]

How did a cop hit you.

I did the same thing in my 90 Civic DX. Had 3 kids in the back and e-braked on a rutty road. The wheel was at a 45*, but I drove home at 55mph!

I don't know much about the FI models, but it sounds like the fusable link wire to your fuse box in the driver side kick panel is not connected.

[Demon1024]

THANK YOU! im gonna check that out i did have to remove the fuse box to take out the pedals,but think i reconnected everything still thats the first place i'll look tomorrow

edit:
I was turning left at a light and the guy in front of me also turning left had to stop because some ass turned right coming from the other way right in front of him. i slowed down to avoid him but the car coming at me didn't see me and we met for a while

[russiankid]

What do you mean it doesn't start by key? Does the starter turn over or it just doesn't fire?

If the starter doesn't even turn over check if the starter works by jumping it. If it works, get a volt meter and hook it up to the signal wire and have someone put the key into the start position. You should get 12volt at that wire. If you don't, check connects at the ignition switch. Mine is broken somewhere in the harness, so I just bypassed it with a new wire running from the ignition switch.

[Demon1024]

Sorry that was a little vauge wasn't it
Car will start jumping the starter from the battery tried swapping ignition switch. still haven't check for the wire at the fuse box. let's see if i can find a test light....

[Bass Man]

If you have any 12v source in your fusebox, I am guessing you connected the "IN" wire... If you turn the key to Run, and there are no lights or 12V source to the fusebox, I know that wire is unhooked.

But the thing is! How does it stay running, yet you aren't feeding the coil 12volts to maintain spark?????