i have the solution to the rear lip on the hatchbacks

[lostforawhile]

take a look at this,it's from an olds 88,not sure what year,thats why i took a picture, i'm going to remove the flat center section,it's easy,just cut it off, and when it is the curve of the skirt matches the hatch bumper perfectly. talking about on the flat part on the bottom. they are too long on the ends that go towards the front of the car, this is easy to fix, they are cut off straight from the factory, so all you have to do is trim to length. they ends after cutting off the center section, line up perfectly where the spare tire well sticks down slightly under the bumper. so you end up with a two piece lip. you wil probably just have to trim slightly around the exaust cutout too. pretty easy stuff. it will just bolt up to the flat lip on the hatch bumper bottom after drilling a few holes.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020298.jpg
can someone identify the year of this? it's an olds eighty eight i know that.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020295.jpg
junkyard dog, was growling at me but after some ear scratching,followed me around all day
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020294.jpg

[Lil Mike]

it looks like a 95 old 88 and i want to see this rear lip in action

[lostforawhile]

it looks like a 95 old 88 and i want to see this rear lip in actioni'll try to work on it tomorrow

[lostforawhile]

i have to pull my rear bumper off so i can trim it to match the contour on the end, but holding it up it looks like an extension of the bottom part of the bumper. mine is going to take a lot more trimming on the exaust end,due to the wierd muffler i have on my car,but for a standard muffler i don't think it will be any big deal. i also have that trailer hitch too.

[GraniteLXI]

Interesting, hope it looks good after the bit of work making it fit.
:redx::redx::redx:

[87LXiR]

Ya im interested as to how its gonna look, cant wait to see the pics. If it looks good like i may give it a try. Good find

[87roach]

Ya im interested as to how its gonna look, cant wait to see the pics. If it looks good like i may give it a try. Good find

x2

[lostforawhile]

am fitting it now,will try to get pics later

[lostforawhile]

ok i'm doing the difficult part first,the part around the muffler,which on my car is under the bumper edge. i have clamped one side, after lining it up, and drilled the screw holes that will hold it in place,while clamped,this insures it goes back on the same way it came off. it had a lot of excess plastic sticking into the inner bumper,so i trimmed it,then cut reliefs on the back side,this helps it bend eaisier. on the muffler side,it's too long where the muffler is, so i had to cut it off, then i have to fit the finished end back on and make it one piece again.
working on lining up the lip
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020299.jpg?t=1205290260
corner,i'll clean up the lip when everything is fitted and finished,then a couple of coats of flexible high build,some wet sanding,and bumper black.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020300.jpg?t=1205290321
corner, the mudflap sits against this,i'll round it off for a more finished appearance,they sit flush together.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020301.jpg?t=1205290446
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020304.jpg?t=1205290615
the exaust end,without the end piece in place.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020306.jpg?t=1205290687
with the end piece,when i'm done with those two pieces,they will look like one

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020307.jpg?t=1205290784

inside of lip clamped in place.i know i need a new steel inner bumper, i need to go to the yard,this one isn't original to the car i think it's from the north
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020308.jpg?t=1205290918

[87LXiR]

By the looks of things it seems to flow well with the bumper, and looks as if its coming along nicely. I cant wait to see the finished product, thanks for the update.

[lostforawhile]

i'm about to go to napa and get some marson bumper repair compound., i attached the end piece with a piece of aluminum on the back,and counter sunk rivets, so i need to fill the gap and the rivets,then i can spray that piece with high build flex primer and bumper black. then on to the other side which should be much eaisier.

[lostforawhile]

ok back, this is the nappa brand flex bumper repair kit, it's actually made by marson,once you open the box, but it's sold at nappa. this will repair any kind of holes,rips tears,scratches etc in your plastic bumper covers,and other material of the same type.
the kit,it has a generous amount of compound,plus a spreader, mixing sticks,and some screening material for backing while doing the repairs.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020309.jpg
the two pieces after being attached together mechanically
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020310.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020311.jpg
this compound is mixed half of repair compound,half of activator
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020312.jpg
you mix until a consistent blue color
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020313.jpg
you then apply like body filler,it's best to wait about two hours before sanding
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020314.jpg

[GraniteLXI]

Damn, moving along quick! Looks great so far, back up a bit on the pics so they aren't so blurry, some can be a bit hard to figure out where they are exactly lol. Cant wait to see the final result :cheers:

[Civic Accord Honda]

nice

[3rdgenhatchDX]

:nervous::nervous::nervous:

Cool tim :) keep up the good work :D

[Hazwan]

How did you make the rivet head flush with the surface?

[thegreatdane]

Interesting, looking forward to see the finished product. Can you sand that filler stuff once it's hardened?

[lostforawhile]

How did you make the rivet head flush with the surface?they are countersunk below the surface.


Interesting, looking forward to see the finished product. Can you sand that filler stuff once it's hardened? it's like body filler,except it doesn't feather well, i used glazing putty to finish it

[lostforawhile]

what was once two is now one.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020317.jpg?t=1205449821
the piece that goes in the center between the two pieces.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020318.jpg?t=1205449925

[Civic Accord Honda]

nice!!

[race12001]

caint wait to see it mounted on the car

[forrest89sei]

Looking Good :thumbup:

[lostforawhile]

i'm fitting up all the pieces here on the floor,my knees will never forgive me a million tiny &&^% screws and nuts. after it's attached to the bumper,i think i'll just repaint the lip along with the bumper after i stick it on the car. much eaisier.

[lostforawhile]

ok mounted on the bumper, i haven't painted the pieces yet,going to paint the entire bumper at the same time. i'm going to make a piece that goes on the opposite side of the exaust cutout tomorrow. so everything will match.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020327.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020328.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020329.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020330.jpg

[stat1K]

lookin good tim!

[stat1K]

oh i got excited and forgot to ask... how well does that compound work? it looks to do the trick... the reason i ask is because i wanted to fill in the muffler the arch that's on my rear lip of my crx so that i could make my exhaust tip point the ground... kind of a hidden exhaust type thing... so yeah lemme know what you think about it / find out about it and how well it holds up and i might just do it!

[Hazwan]

they are countersunk below the surface.

Cool. I never thought of that. I hate when people left the rivets visible.

Nice work, as always!

[lostforawhile]

ok went to the yard,got a nice non rusty steel inner bumper from a sedan,the steel part should be the same as the hatch correct? i did notice it seems lighter,maby that was an improvement. this one hasn't been hit like the one i have now.

[2oodoor]

:redx:

[Civic Accord Honda]

:redx:

[lostforawhile]

i haven't put in the new steel part yet,been digging up old dead bushes and putting in rose bushes all day. been rolling in the dirt all day. heres the steel bumper part i got from the yard. i'm making a piece right now that attaches to the center section i made,about to go to the hardware store and pick up some socket head bolts as a matter of fact.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020331.jpg

[lostforawhile]

ok the rear splitter is done,thast the part i decided to make for the center.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020332.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020333.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020334.jpg

[2oodoor]

I can't really tell what Im looking at there, but are the hatch rear bumpers different than sedans? I thought there was a lip on 88-89 LXi models bumpers already?

For all practical purposes I really don't care for the low dragging bumpers, just because we have a lot of steep driveways around here, some off the main road where you can't take it easy or you will get runn-ded over:wave:
I like the idea of fabricating with the plastics though, the general ideas involving the bonding and durability of these modifications are usefull in many other areas of the car. IMO

[lostforawhile]

it's nowhere near to the ground, the hatch bumper is way up in the air. none of the hatches came with a built in rear lip, all the bumper covers are the same on the hatches from 86-89. this is actually an 89 lxi hatch cover now. the hatch and sedan rear cover are different from each other. but the steel inner part us the same. the way my muffler is under my bumper the lip is still higher then the muffler itself.

[Civic Accord Honda]

and 8889 sedan rear bumpers are flugy XD :P

[2oodoor]

ahhh good to know, hatchy bumpers r for hatchys only, of course I am sure if I had both cars sitting in front of me now I would see the obvious difference aye? The lip should be the same shape though.
Dark CAH I agree somewhat, I would not change to one myself, but I do like the SEI sedans that have them &

[mushroom_toy]

ahhh good to know, hatchy bumpers r for hatchys only, of course I am sure if I had both cars sitting in front of me now I would see the obvious difference aye? The lip should be the same shape though.
Dark CAH I agree somewhat, I would not change to one myself, but I do like the SEI sedans that have them &

Except for front bumpers. Im running a hatch front bumper on my ca (86-87) and its the same as a sedan one.

[lostforawhile]

ok the old steel bumper is out,what a piece of shit. i forgot how bad it was,this steel bumper was put on the car at some point in the past, the amount of rust on it,doesn't match the rest of the car. the new steel bumper i got is from a southern car also,and it doesn't have any rust. this car has always been in the south from the records i found on it. only minor difference,is the 86 steel part has two pieces that help hold the bumper shape on the bottom,and the 89 has three. this is not a major problem,the plastic pieces on the top where the screws go are the same.

[Civic Accord Honda]

cool and yeah all front bumpers are interchageable but
coupe rear bumper only fits on coupe and hatch rear bumper only fits on hatch and sedan rear bumper only fits sedans lol

[lostforawhile]

son of a bitch i think the hatch rear steel part is different despite what everyone on here says it's almost twice as thick as the hatch steel part

[lostforawhile]

ok it fits but barely. the steel box section on the sedan bumper is twice as thick as the single box section on the hatch. actually sits up against the sheet metal on the car. i slid it in temporarily to make sure the bolts went through. i will try to pull it and paint it tomorrow, it looks awesome. too dark for pics tonight,but i will get some tomorrow. this really finishes off the rear of the hatch. the splitter looks like something ferrari would have put on it. it def was worth all the hard work.

[GraniteLXI]

Cant wait for the pics! :redx::redx::redx::redx::redx:
Funny how much little money you had to spend but how much time you had to put into it!

[mushroom_toy]

Cant wait to see the rear lip man.

[lostforawhile]

the dam 88-89 bumper doesn't fit:rocket: so i need to take it all back apart and go back to the junkyard to pull an 86-87 inner steel bumper. the dual cross sections just don't fit. in the picture the ends aren't connected and i haven't painted it yet. was just trying to get an idea what it would look like.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020336.jpg?t=1205710727

[lostforawhile]

does anyone know for sure that the 86-87 sedan rear bumper will fit the hatch? this is going to be a pain in the ass to go pull another one. the bumper cross section is too thick and won't slide up all the way. so theres a huge gap. someone needs to put this in the sticky section that 88-89 steel bumpers don't fit 86-87 hatches or possibly sedans. there is some misinformation floating around about them

[mushroom_toy]

Hmmm you do a lot of nice work man....but that lip....doesnt go with the car at all. I hate to say its definitely not my taste...XD But you made it, and thats what really matters.

[lostforawhile]

well i could paint the center section black, dk yet, i might powdercoat it
it looks wierd because it's not sitting right since it won't slide all the way up

[Civic Accord Honda]

lip looks good id paint the center black though

[lostforawhile]

yea as soon as i get the proper steel bumper everything will line up,i'll probably have to powdercoat the center section black because paint won't last long there.

[GraniteLXI]

Damn, what a shame that after all that it turned out it just wouldn't fit :gun: The general idea looks good, and yea that center steel section needs to be painted black as well ^_^

[lostforawhile]

Damn, what a shame that after all that it turned out it just wouldn't fit :gun: The general idea looks good, and yea that center steel section needs to be painted black as well ^_^thats bilet aluminum i can fix it the cover is the correct one just the inner steel bumper is wrong i have to get an 86-87 steel bumper. my original one was hit so it's bent on one end

[thegreatdane]

I would make a plastic center lip piece instead of that billet piece.

[lostforawhile]

I would make a plastic center lip piece instead of that billet piece.
naa i'll just powdercoat it black.

[lostforawhile]

well i might have found an 86,where is the year listed on the sedans? couldn't find it. got to pull this bumper cover back off so i can swap it tomorrow.http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4020335.jpg?t=1205790209

[lostforawhile]

no luck whatsoever. apparently the hatch rear bumper is totally different then the sedan rear bumper. so i'm shit out of luck i would have better luck hitting the lottery then finding a hatch.

[Civic Accord Honda]

that sucks :( i think u can get a new one online....but there $$$
cant u mod the sedan one to work?

[BITESIZE]

I have a rear hatch bumper.

[lostforawhile]

yea but how much is it going to cost to ship a bumper from there lol. i really wonder if it's the same as an 85. it's completkly different as far as the steel part from the sedan one.

[BITESIZE]

Eh, salvage yard just came and took my car and the rear bumper went with it lol.

[SZfiftyfour]

no luck whatsoever. apparently the hatch rear bumper is totally different then the sedan rear bumper. so i'm shit out of luck i would have better luck hitting the lottery then finding a hatch.

Lost, there's a few hatches here (one that i know of for sure an88/89) in one of our yards. Whatcha need, and approx. what does it cost?

[lostforawhile]

Lost, there's a few hatches here (one that i know of for sure an88/89) in one of our yards. Whatcha need, and approx. what does it cost?oh i need the steel inner bumper for the back bumper,don't need the cover just the steel part that bolts to the car.dk how much they go for there i paid twenty for the useless sedan one here. i also asked roodoo if he could pull one, haven't heard anything yet. could make the trip to get it if someone pulls it next month though. you don't need a nice non rusty sedan one do you? if you do we could work out something.

[lostforawhile]

in the meantime i need to put the original one back on it will work but the bumper is too far forward on one side where it was hit

[SZfiftyfour]

oh i need the steel inner bumper for the back bumper,don't need the cover just the steel part that bolts to the car.dk how much they go for there i paid twenty for the useless sedan one here. i also asked roodoo if he could pull one, haven't heard anything yet. could make the trip to get it if someone pulls it next month though. you don't need a nice non rusty sedan one do you? if you do we could work out something.

I'll go check it out this weekend. Whats involved in pulling it, i dont have to bring a plasma torch or a lightsaber or anything do i?

[Civic Accord Honda]

should be 3 screws on each side by the qutar panel and 4 bolts under the car

[lostforawhile]

ok just discovered something strange, if i take off the bumper cover, the sedan steel part bolts right up. i'm starting to wonder if it's the plastic piece that bolt to the bumper that hold the cover. none of those holes are in the right place with the bumper cover bolted up.i will try swapping them tomorrow.

[SZfiftyfour]

ok just discovered something strange, if i take off the bumper cover, the sedan steel part bolts right up. i'm starting to wonder if it's the plastic piece that bolt to the bumper that hold the cover. none of those holes are in the right place with the bumper cover bolted up.i will try swapping them tomorrow.

What did you find out?
I went to get that bumper today, but i ended up not removing it. There was a lot of rust on it and i figured you wouldnt want it.

[lostforawhile]

What did you find out?
I went to get that bumper today, but i ended up not removing it. There was a lot of rust on it and i figured you wouldnt want it.
i haven't even got a chance to look been busy wiring i might see if it swaps tomorrow

[lostforawhile]

ok roodoo is going to go look for one for me,he tried today,but they were all on rims under the rear bumpers. i discovered another problem, i have 55 watt driving lights under my rear bumpers,for back up lights now with the lip i need to lower the lights.