my 88 lx

[oscwrestler]

ok so i crashed my car back in january and i've just started getting back together. i think i've done a good job for never trying this before
the new piping for my CAI. http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/oscwrestler1/Picture118.jpg
CAI http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/oscwrestler1/Picture113.jpg
CAI http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/oscwrestler1/Picture114.jpg
CAI http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/oscwrestler1/Picture115.jpg
Here she is=] http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/oscwrestler1/Picture119.jpg
Gotta love junkyard parts http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/oscwrestler1/Picture111.jpg
fresh painted today. i know the valve cover wont stay red but i wanted to do it anyways http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/oscwrestler1/Picture110.jpg

[ghettogeddy]

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http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/oscwrestler1/Picture110.jpg

[ghettogeddy]

have u noticed any dif with the makeshift cai on the carb

[oscwrestler]

the only dif is that it smell like a boat motor when its warming up so idk what side of the spectrum it is on, lean or rich but i assume lean. oh!!! where the filter goes on there is a little bar to hold it in place in the air box... would it hurt anything to cut it out?

[russiankid]

Good on the repairs but is it really that hard to remove 3 nuts and take the valve cover off?

[oscwrestler]

i tried to today. i couldn't get the thing off. is there any trick to it?

[russiankid]

Remove the 3 nuts, then there are 3 rubber grommets. Remove those and rock the cover off.

[ghettogeddy]

Remove the 3 nuts, then there are 3 rubber grommets. Remove those and rock the cover off.

he has to take the carb bracket bolts off as well and the hoses

[oscwrestler]

i feel stupid. i just took off the nuts haha. well shit i guess i'm gonna go take off the cover and look around for a bit. thanks.

[oscwrestler]

so i was wondering... i've seen filters on the valve cover. what are those for?

[ghettogeddy]

just air breathers i got one cause i swapped to a lxi valve cover witch put the hose on the op side

[oscwrestler]

hwo much do those run you at the part store? and what do you do with the hose from the air cleaner?

[ghettogeddy]

hwo much do those run you at the part store? and what do you do with the hose from the air cleaner?

i just left the hose roved it at the next loaction
i think the lil filter was def less then 10bucks

[ghettogeddy]

there about 10 on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/12MM-AIR-BREATHER-FILTER-VALVE-COVER-UNIVERSAL-CHORME_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33659QQihZ006QQi temZ160228506462QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

[oscwrestler]

alright thanks. i'm new to these cars and everything i've done is ver experemental. i'm def saving up for a 5 speed car unless its cheaper to do a conversion

[ghettogeddy]

if you get your hands on a non running lx it could be worth it just to do the swap

[Bass Man]

Next time you go to a junkyard, ask for a 86-89 LXi valve cover. Mine was only $25 and it looks awesome.

The filter is $10 at Shucks and autozone.

Did you notice any difference in the cold air??

For that bracket that supports the air cleaner to the valve cover, there are 2 10mm bolts that hold it to the filter box, and 2 10mm nuts that hold it to the valve cover.

And since you don't have emmisions (at least I hope! Hillsboro is too far away from me, well niether is Cali!! AHH!!) Then you should consider the complete vacuum removal if you expect ANY power from that thing.

[oscwrestler]

the problem wth the vac removal is im VERY new to working on cars.. i dont wanna mess anything up seein as how this will be my driver again. i actually havent been able to do any real pulls with it. my tags are bad and my insurance is currently suspended because of the wreck i got in. and i do have emissions but as soon as i do it im def taking off the exaust and going with a straight pipe job. i dont even wanna make the headder just straight pipes from the head (if you see any problems let me know so i dont screw anything up) i just took of the bracket olding the box to the valvei hope that wont pose a problem...

[Civic Accord Honda]

looks like a nice project car :)
kill the black box though :D

[Bass Man]

UHH!!!!!! Straight out of the head = BIG problems!! I hope I don't have to name all the things wrong, but appart from Johnny Law, it will burn your valves up.

If you are serious, I would just keep the hood closed and do some research on engines in general.

[oscwrestler]

well you gotta give me a break haha i'm new. i thought it would be good. it would sound HELLA good for the 5 min it would work

[A18A]

lol cool intake

[Dat_LXI]

Looks nice keep up good work

[oscwrestler]

lol cool intake
i just didnt wanna look for one to fit it! and that was free except the duct tape... that was 3 bucks... oh!!! is the exaust bolted anywhere past the cat? i dont wanna have to hack off my shit for a new pipe

[Bass Man]

If you have emmision testing, cut it after the cat and replace it with 2 1/4" tubing. If you don't have testing, cut it after the flexpipe and do 2 1/4", or at least say that to the guy putting it in.

[oscwrestler]

i have testing but i figure my tags are good for 2 years so it seems worth it to just do straight pipes from the cat until i gotta go back. so there is no way to remove the exaust pipe with bolts?

[86ccord]

but as soon as i do it im def taking off the exaust and going with a straight pipe job. i dont even wanna make the headder just straight pipes from the head (if you see any problems let me know so i dont screw anything up) i just took of the bracket olding the box to the valvei hope that wont pose a problem...

If you want good cheap sound.. do what i did.. i cut my muffler off.. and i still have the stock header, flex pipe, tubing, and cat.. just no muffler and i went to auto zone and got an extention pipe to finish off where i took the muffler off so the exhuast fumes wouldnt come through the car.. and it sounds supa good.. and doesnt sound like a pissed weed wacker either....

[oscwrestler]

did you have to weld anything? thats the only issue for me

[Bass Man]

I took my muffler off when I got mine as well...
Because of the resonators and the cat, it will still be quiet.

[oscwrestler]

can i just make a bolt in set up for my exaust?

[oscwrestler]

p.s. thank you all for letting me know i needed to replace my gasket when i took off my valve cover. now my drive way is oil stained =]

[ghettogeddy]

p.s. thank you all for letting me know i needed to replace my gasket when i took off my valve cover. now my drive way is oil stained =]

normally whay you take somethig off that has a gasket you should replace said gasket each time
unless its real new lol
common scenes ownes you

[oscwrestler]

well shit i wish somone woulda told me. i told a lot of people about it and not one person asked if i remmebered to replace the gasket. can you just get some silicone or something as a temp fix?

[ghettogeddy]

well shit i wish somone woulda told me. i told a lot of people about it and not one person asked if i remmebered to replace the gasket. can you just get some silicone or something as a temp fix?

no gaskets are only like 3bucks

[Bass Man]

When I took my stock valve cover off, I noticed someone put some Form-a-gasket on the gasket... Just thought I would say that...

Most vavle cover gaskets are reusable, you just have to get the gasket and head CLEAN and oil free when you put it back together or it will leak...

Mine didn't leak the first time, but when I went in to adjust my valves, I didn't do a good job at cleaning the head, so it started leaking profusely... I cleaned it up and now I'm leak-free!

[headbanger]

If you want good cheap sound.. do what i did.. i cut my muffler off.. and i still have the stock header, flex pipe, tubing, and cat.. just no muffler and i went to auto zone and got an extention pipe to finish off where i took the muffler off so the exhuast fumes wouldnt come through the car.. and it sounds supa good.. and doesnt sound like a pissed weed wacker either....

i cut the muffler off of mine when i was going to put on my aftermarket mufller.and with no muffler it was not nearly as loud as it was with the new one.

[MessyHonda]

no gaskets are only like 3bucks



they are 11 bucks from honda...i only use honda cuz my felpro started to leak

[oscwrestler]

hwo long before the felpro leaked? i just got a gasket from them

[2oodoor]

a genuine honest to goodness noob, I digress.
You have a lot to learn, but I appreciate your inspiration.
Vacuum removal is for (scale of 1 to 10) at least a 7 on the mechanical difficulty experience. From what you say I think you are a 1.5, not meant to be an insult ok.
Your interest and inspiration will carry you towards 10 if you pay attention and think real good before asking questions, READ READ READ :cheers:
The cold air intake is not really helping you would be my guess, because of the ribbed duct you are using, the air is probably slowing down and picking up heat.

good pictures!

[oscwrestler]

yeah i just took it off and flipped my air cleaner lid. and yeah i'm def not all that skilled yet but i'm determined as hell to get good with these cars. and i've read the stuff on running the stock carb with no emissions and i think that is a good start to doing a full vac removal. i'm pretty sure i'm getting a weber this weekend but i still need to do emissions so it wont go on for a while. so i havee plenty of time to read and learn but the only way to really learn is do it right?

[2oodoor]

yeah i just took it off and flipped my air cleaner lid. and yeah i'm def not all that skilled yet but i'm determined as hell to get good with these cars. and i've read the stuff on running the stock carb with no emissions and i think that is a good start to doing a full vac removal. i'm pretty sure i'm getting a weber this weekend but i still need to do emissions so it wont go on for a while. so i havee plenty of time to read and learn but the only way to really learn is do it right?

you got it :rockon:

[oscwrestler]

my dad was telling me yesterday that with a weber he didnt think we really needed the computer. is that true? cuz with the vac gone there isnt really much for the computer to control right?

[markmdz89hatch]

a genuine honest to goodness noob, I digress.
You have a lot to learn, but I appreciate your inspiration.
Vacuum removal is for (scale of 1 to 10) at least a 7 on the mechanical difficulty experience. From what you say I think you are a 1.5, not meant to be an insult ok.
Your interest and inspiration will carry you towards 10 if you pay attention and think real good before asking questions, READ READ READ :cheers:
The cold air intake is not really helping you would be my guess, because of the ribbed duct you are using, the air is probably slowing down and picking up heat.

good pictures!

Couldn't have put it better myself.

osc: Be careful with the vac removal, and just make sure you print out the how-to, read it, then read it again, then maybe one more time before actually going through doing it to your car. As for the need for the ECU, honestly I'm not sure. But I know that in our carb'd cars, it's not completely necessary. Hell, when I was putting mine back together after a total gut-job on it, I intentionally didn't have the ECU in and was able to start it right up and take it for a spin around the block (with a milk-crate as a seat lol.). That being said, it's not hurting anything by any means, and weighs less than a pound, so i would keep it in there.

For the weber, roodoo please correct me if I'm wrong, but as long as you jet the weber correctly, and tune it down, you can lean out the mix and should be able to pass emissions if all they do is the exhaust analyzing like they do up here in CT. If they want to see only stock ignition/carburetion then you're screwed.

Bear in mind, there's really no easy 'undo' button for the vac removal or weber install. Sure anything can be done, but it'll take you twice as long to put everything back in compared to the removal.

Good luck, and please please please read as much as you can about things first, then post up any questions you might have. Don't hesitate to PM someone specifically if you think you can get the best answer from them too.

[2oodoor]

my dad was telling me yesterday that with a weber he didnt think we really needed the computer. is that true? cuz with the vac gone there isnt really much for the computer to control right?

Dad is correct, I threw away a 30 gallon trash can of stuff under the hood I did not need anymore with the weber swap.
That said, you may not want to remove as much as I did if you need emmsisions stickers. And no the computer does not do much anymore once the weber is installed. Weber-iszed, the car is MUCH simpler to deal with.

[Bass Man]

It took me about 4 hours to remove everything, and about half of that was trying to figure out where the hell the "AC Highrev" plate was for the manuel secondaries.

When did they start doing emmisions in Oregon?! I hope the it doesn't come too far south.

[oscwrestler]

emisions are for portland. thankfully my grandma lives in eugene=] i can use her address next time i need new tags.

thanks for the help guys. sorry for the newbie questions.

[Bass Man]

Newbie questions are fine. Sometimes personal Q&A are better than searching. Search... If you don't find something or understand it, PM any of the "Foundation Members", I'm sure any one of them know a 3G front to back. If nothing else, make a thread.

[oscwrestler]

so today i got a seat outta a preldue. i believe it was a 2nd gen. its not in all that great of shape but it was what i was after. and i got a new valve cover. the valve cover looks a lil dif. i read about a gold top and i think this may be one. my camera isnt working right now so i'll get pics in a few min.

[oscwrestler]

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[oscwrestler]

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[russiankid]

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Fixed*

Seat look good!

[oscwrestler]

thanks. for some reason photobucket wont do its thing here. the seat is torn to shit but hey, it is way more comfortable than the factory one. it was pretty easy to mount too.