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TWOLOUDNPROUD
07-25-2008, 06:59 PM
Today i took out my front crossmember to do come work not the front motor mount and my crossmember broke:uh:
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7258.jpg

so i started to make a new one it not done yet but here some pis's.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7259.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7260.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7261.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7262.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7263.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7264.jpg

ghettogeddy
07-25-2008, 07:03 PM
you have the worst luck for things that dont normally brake to brake lol

Pico
07-25-2008, 07:18 PM
How did that happen?

TWOLOUDNPROUD
07-25-2008, 07:20 PM
you have the worst luck for things that dont normally brake to brake lol

What can i say:dunno: shit happen's:lol:

84Accord
07-25-2008, 08:00 PM
looks good.
nice job
had to do something similar to that. put a diff engine in another car and the existing crossmember was shaped wrong

good luck

AccordB20A
07-26-2008, 12:32 AM
geez those are solid and heavu..usually.

A18A
07-26-2008, 12:38 AM
How did that happen?

i also want to know O_O

Civic Accord Honda
07-26-2008, 12:41 AM
how in f^$# name did u do that! that looks worse then my legends did!

TWOLOUDNPROUD
07-26-2008, 04:33 PM
How did that happen?

i also want to know O_O

Ok this is what happen i cut i piece out of the frame to make the down pipe fit from the turbo but i did weld a new piece in but tme frame started to crack by the driver side traction bar and it crack all the way around:eek:i did not notice it untel i took it out:sad2:i am glad did, Think if it broke while i was driving:eek:i would have been toast:crying:

mykwikcoupe
07-26-2008, 04:48 PM
sweet setup only when you biuld me mine can you offset the crossmember to the front of the car more creating a larger gap for downpipe clearances. i can have longer and larger radius rods made to work with the longer stroke. It looks good. Ive been chating with the company from auburn about them trying to make us a kit. If you decide to start order let me know, i jst need a rough weld and mount, Ill paint. Looks great tommy

AccordB20A
07-26-2008, 05:03 PM
Ok this is what happen i cut i piece out of the frame to make the down pipe fit from the turbo but i did weld a new piece but tme frame started to crack by the driver side traction bar and it crack all the way around:eek:i did not notice it untel i took it out:sad2:i am glad did, Think if it broke while i was driving:eek:i would have been toast:crying:

and knowing you it would ave broken and fucked something major

Ichiban
07-27-2008, 10:20 AM
I wonder how eliminating the rubber bushings is going to affect the stress of the entire subframe, including vibration levels. Also, how did you set the angle/spacing/positioning of your brackets for the radius rods? Their position affects the position of the front wheel, as well as caster and a variety of other things.

TWOLOUDNPROUD
07-27-2008, 07:50 PM
I made some progress on the front mount to i should have it all done by tomorrow night but here some pis's of what i have done.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7265.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7266.jpg

2drSE-i
07-27-2008, 09:50 PM
and knowing you it would ave broken and fucked something major

His head would have seperated from the block and gone through the hood, the bottom end would have gone through the firewall.

carotman
07-28-2008, 05:27 AM
Hmmm this thing ain't gonna move!

A18A
07-28-2008, 05:42 AM
I love that front mount, looks solid as

Accordtheory
07-28-2008, 08:59 AM
I wonder how eliminating the rubber bushings is going to affect the stress of the entire subframe, including vibration levels. Also, how did you set the angle/spacing/positioning of your brackets for the radius rods? Their position affects the position of the front wheel, as well as caster and a variety of other things.


I am curious about this also. I would have built one of these already, but I ran out of money for my turbosystem, so my car is still n/a right now, and my header just barely clears my oem crossmember..but I kinda doubt my downpipe will.

TWOLOUDNPROUD
07-28-2008, 12:03 PM
I am curious about this also. I would have built one of these already, but I ran out of money for my turbosystem, so my car is still n/a right now, and my header just barely clears my oem crossmember..but I kinda doubt my downpipe will.

So far it cost me about 40.00 to make it i used scrape i had laying around to make it.

mykwikcoupe
07-28-2008, 08:19 PM
perfect so if i sent you a few extra you could make me one

TWOLOUDNPROUD
07-29-2008, 12:38 AM
Hmmm this thing ain't gonna move!

and i don't need the dog bone motor mount anymore:wave:

Accordtheory
07-29-2008, 10:55 AM
So far it cost me about 40.00 to make it i used scrape i had laying around to make it.

I wasn't talking about he cost of building the crossmember, i just meant that I didn't need to build it yet because I ran out of money for my tubo setup, which would need the crossmember for clearance..but what I wanted to know was how you aligned the pieces that hold the radius arms, I have a few ideas on that, but I'm still curious how you did it.

p.s. nice 2girls1cup.com reference in the sig..I remember when I saw that shit, my friend warned me, but still..uugghh, I just kept telling myself, dude that Has to be done on a computer or something, that shit can't be real..wtf!

2drSE-i
07-29-2008, 12:04 PM
lets just hope the shit was fake lol

TWOLOUDNPROUD
07-29-2008, 03:24 PM
lets just hope the shit was fake lol

what are you talking about? whats fake?

turabaka
07-29-2008, 03:37 PM
what are you talking about? whats fake?

I believe he's referring to the two girls one cup shit. I hope it was fake as well, but being a regular visitor to both 7chan and 711chan I suspect it was not. Oh yeah, and forget that I broke rules 1 and 2 just now.

Civic Accord Honda
07-29-2008, 03:46 PM
what are you talking about? whats fake? he be talking bout 2 gurls 1 cup

TWOLOUDNPROUD
07-29-2008, 04:04 PM
Ok

Civic Accord Honda
07-29-2008, 04:06 PM
two girls 1 cup is just nasty and two girls and one finger is just F'ing gross.
i really dont wanna know what two girls one finger is :|

TWOLOUDNPROUD
07-29-2008, 04:07 PM
I believe he's referring to the two girls one cup shit. I hope it was fake as well, but being a regular visitor to both 7chan and 711chan I suspect it was not. Oh yeah, and forget that I broke rules 1 and 2 just now.

you think that bad watch 2girls1finger that just F'ing gross:inout:

TWOLOUDNPROUD
07-29-2008, 04:09 PM
i really dont wanna know what two girls one finger is :|

Know you dont:ugh:

turabaka
07-29-2008, 04:29 PM
you think that bad watch 2girls1finger that just F'ing gross:inout:

To be honest nothing really scars me anymore. I spent way to much time in /b/, and because of that I'm immune to just about anything the internet can throw at me.

Ichiban
07-30-2008, 05:00 PM
How the hell does this have to do with custom crossmembers, something I've put a lot of time and thought into?

Jesus...

TWOLOUDNPROUD
07-30-2008, 07:49 PM
it's done just need to paint it and i will do that friday but here some pic's untel then.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7267.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7269.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7271.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7275.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7276.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7278.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7277.jpg

Civic Accord Honda
07-30-2008, 11:13 PM
NICE!!!!

and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxp3zqIqO68&feature=user

carotman
07-31-2008, 05:59 AM
Great work!

Accordtheory
07-31-2008, 10:28 AM
Great work!

That's probably what the 2 girls said to each other after..nevermind..okay, I'm done.

twoloudnproud, come on, tell us a little here. Guyhatesmycar also wants to know how you set the pieces that hold the arms in place.
I'm guessing that if you had the car on the ground and just took out the crossmember, the wheels would move a little front or back in the wheelwells, and you would lose the ability to use the previous location of the radius rod's end as a template/positioner for the new piece, how much of there is a tendency for this to happen? I know it wouldn't happen if you had the brakes locked on with the car on the ground when you pulled the crossmember, thennothing could move, but how would you do that.. So what did you do, just take extremely careful measurements? I'm guessing you didn't try to copy/measure from your original crossmember, given its condition..

Not like I really need an answer to this question or anything, lol, obviously I can figure it out my own way, I'm just curious how you did it. I do like you design overall though, although mine would be biased farther forward with longer "extensions" or whatever you'd call them, for more downpipe clearance.

And I almost forgot, did you upgrade to poly radius arm bushings?

TWOLOUDNPROUD
07-31-2008, 11:13 AM
That's probably what the 2 girls said to each other after..nevermind..okay, I'm done.

twoloudnproud, come on, tell us a little here. Guyhatesmycar also wants to know how you set the pieces that hold the arms in place.
I'm guessing that if you had the car on the ground and just took out the crossmember, the wheels would move a little front or back in the wheelwells, and you would lose the ability to use the previous location of the radius rod's end as a template/positioner for the new piece, how much of there is a tendency for this to happen? I know it wouldn't happen if you had the brakes locked on with the car on the ground when you pulled the crossmember, thennothing could move, but how would you do that.. So what did you do, just take extremely careful measurements? I'm guessing you didn't try to copy/measure from your original crossmember, given its condition..

Not like I really need an answer to this question or anything, lol, obviously I can figure it out my own way, I'm just curious how you did it. I do like you design overall though, although mine would be biased farther forward with longer "extensions" or whatever you'd call them, for more downpipe clearance.

And I almost forgot, did you upgrade to poly radius arm bushings?

I used my other Accord as reference. its nice to have two Accord's. and for the poly radius arm bushings not yet.

TWOLOUDNPROUD
08-05-2008, 08:30 PM
Ok it's done and no more B20 lean SWEET.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7360.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7361.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7362.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7363.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7365.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/TwoLoudNproud/DSCN7367.jpg

A18A
08-05-2008, 09:41 PM
wooot :D :D :D :D :D :D

TWOLOUDNPROUD
08-06-2008, 07:35 AM
wooot :D :D :D :D :D :D

Thank You :beer:

Tomisimo
08-06-2008, 03:01 PM
Make some blueprints while You at it ;) Idd like to make me one my self too..

Nicely done I say!!

86ccord
08-08-2008, 03:32 PM
looks hot as hell son! good job!

Ichiban
05-26-2009, 07:32 PM
How's the crossmember holding up? I'm considering developing one of my own, for my car.

Tdurr
05-26-2009, 09:21 PM
shit! i wanna make one for my car! would be great for DP clearance! wut grade/kind of metal is the bar mad out of?

Ichiban
05-26-2009, 09:31 PM
I'd recommend mild steel, 1010 or 1020. It welds easily, and has an excellent fatigue life and resists stress and breakage.

Tdurr
05-26-2009, 09:33 PM
sweet. I think i might get my buddy to rig one up on my car in a bit. He has the welding skills and gear. I just would need to get parts first... hmmm...

88LXi68
05-27-2009, 03:49 AM
sweet setup only when you biuld me mine can you offset the crossmember to the front of the car more creating a larger gap for downpipe clearances. i can have longer and larger radius rods made to work with the longer stroke.



x2

EDIT...WOW this is an old thread

Tdurr
05-30-2009, 06:07 PM
soo will u be making these? if so i want one..

Rendon LX-i
05-30-2009, 07:04 PM
OH shit IM IN...lol...i need one for my 3inch downpipe HEHE

AccordEpicenter
06-17-2009, 02:48 PM
ive been wanting to build somthing like this for about 5 years now. My front crossmember is cut up like yours is, its not cracked but i cant imagine its anywhere near as strong as the one you have here... how long did that take to build? Interested in making another one?

Tdurr
06-17-2009, 07:13 PM
Shit, if he could just get measurements, angles, lengths and things then we could make them lol. Or at least i would try.

Rendon LX-i
06-17-2009, 10:12 PM
bump...two loud where the fuck you at bro ? lol