keeping the 3gee, need help tho.

[OldSkoolA20accord]

I was going to sell my hatch but i changed my mind. now i just need to know what to do next.

my a20 is in reed of a rebuild.....badly.

I wanted to know if i should do a b16 swap. or build the a20.

I can get a full swap for $1300, which i think would be the way to go.

or i know this guy that can bore the a20 to anysize i want for 9 bucks a whole and get my pistons for $300. then i would need a weber, headers, ignition kit, and some head work done.

im only saying go with the b16 cos its $1300 as opposed to a $3400 b16.

i can get an h22 for about $1800. which im thinking about doing.
but dont know what to use for the axles.

i would end up turboing the b16 if i was to get it.

lmk what you guys think

[A18A]

there's alot of threads asking these same questions, should do some search

[OldSkoolA20accord]

there's alot of threads asking these same questions, should do some search

i will man.
im just trying to figure out what i should put in it

[lostforawhile]

I was going to sell my hatch but i changed my mind. now i just need to know what to do next.

my a20 is in reed of a rebuild.....badly.

I wanted to know if i should do a b16 swap. or build the a20.

I can get a full swap for $1300, which i think would be the way to go.

or i know this guy that can bore the a20 to anysize i want for 9 bucks a whole and get my pistons for $300. then i would need a weber, headers, ignition kit, and some head work done.

im only saying go with the b16 cos its $1300 as opposed to a $3400 b16.

i can get an h22 for about $1800. which im thinking about doing.
but dont know what to use for the axles.

i would end up turboing the b16 if i was to get it.

lmk what you guys thinkthats really cheap on the boring, better check that out carefully, you don't want to cheap out on machine work. is that boring only? or does that include the proper cross hatch pattern added. you need the cross hatch pattern to be honed in,this will allow the rings to seat right. also is he going to clean the block? it's really hard to get that grit out, any little bit left will destroy your new engne. you need to drive out every plug on the block,and clean it and clean it,then clean it some more. also buy a gun cleaning kit, and use this to clean every hole in the block. you can't get it clean enough. after it's absoultly spotless inside and outside, coat every bit of it in clean engine oil,and cover it with plastic. or a big oily plastic bag.

[OldSkoolA20accord]

he said 9 buck for boring and honing.

I would have to clean it tho. I need a new transmission too. (3 gear grinds like crazy) thats why im wanting to a swap. Im thinking the h22 would be crazy badass. but harder than hell.

may just do the b16. idk.

[Hauntd ca3]

thats to cheap if you ask me
would expect more like 80 per hole
dunno if its tru, but have been told by some older mechanics that hondas are real fussy bout the honing.
might just be if using oem rings tho

[AccordB20A]

if your going to put another engine in please get something bigger than a b16a

[OldSkoolA20accord]

if your going to put another engine in please get something bigger than a b16a

well the b16 has about 170hp. The a20 in my car has 98. so i think it would be a pretty good upgrade. i would be building the b16 and turboing it later anyway.

[MessyHonda]

first swap it to fuel injection...then talk b16s

[AccordB20A]

well the b16 has about 170hp. The a20 in my car has 98. so i think it would be a pretty good upgrade. i would be building the b16 and turboing it later anyway.

turbo b16 would win. But i couldnt live with a NA one it would be like.... waiting waiting waiting waiting waiting VTEC BAAAHHHHHHH bout time /no torque

[OldSkoolA20accord]

first swap it to fuel injection...then talk b16s

why would i need to swap it to efi if i have the full harness from the b16 couldnt i just use it?

[MessyHonda]

why would i need to swap it to efi if i have the full harness from the b16 couldnt i just use it?

you would still need a EFI harness in your car...fuel pump and i heard the fuel tank is diferent...also a fuel return line..change clusters and wire up the check engine light...you would need to convert to OBD1 to get it tuned on turbo...lots and lots of stuff

[Civic Accord Honda]

you would still need a EFI harness in your car...fuel pump and i heard the fuel tank is diferent...also a fuel return line..change clusters and wire up the check engine light...you would need to convert to OBD1 to get it tuned on turbo...lots and lots of stuff
yep alot of work and takes alot of cash

[ghettogeddy]

i got some toto pistons i could sell to you for way under 300 like 75 bucks
there .50 over bore to come with rings to

[A18A]

if you're hory just use a stand alone loom, buy a long ass fuel feed line, and get a efi fuel pump and keep the tank full. personally i'd rather have the oem fuel line and a full efi cabin loom

[Civic Accord Honda]

i got some toto pistons i could sell to you for way under 300 like 75 bucks
there .50 over bore to come with rings to that sounds like a good deal he should get them and go with a rebuild and Weber 38 :thumbup:

[AccordB20A]

cah knows the numbers after weber?? man brainy.. i dont know what them numbers are for.. im an EFI man, until this week sometime.

[OldSkoolA20accord]

so i guess it would be cheaper to just build the a20 insted of swaping it.

how much power do you guys think i would be making with a weber 38, 5 angle valve job, port and polish, stage 3 cam with adjustable gear, .50 over bore, headers, and an msd ignition system.

also is there a how to on installing acura gears in the 3gee case? the search thing doesnt work.

[MessyHonda]

you would make like 150-160 whp...high compression pistons tho

[OldSkoolA20accord]

you would make like 150-160 whp...high compression pistons tho

thaT Would be nice. i need to figure out what i need to do the acura gear swap.

[MessyHonda]

you just need the 86-89 acura integra gears...i did it to my trans and it cost me about 1200 bucks

9 pound flywheel
stage 3 clutch
rebuilt trans with integera gears and accord 5th gear.
new axles

[OldSkoolA20accord]

is it worth it?

[MessyHonda]

nope

[OldSkoolA20accord]

i didnt know it was going to cost that much. I need to do something cos everytime im gettin on it when i shift into 3rd it grinds. i dont know what it is.

[MessyHonda]

engine builds cost more....

[OldSkoolA20accord]

i plan on building the engine. i guess ill just wait on the transmission.