doing 5 speed swap

[beran24]

i got this car i bought and i want to swap the 5 speed into my auto, i'm just wondering in u can leave the engine in the car and drop the trany out the bottom

[A18A]

yup

[beran24]

yup

yeah ok cause i don't feel like pulling the engine.

[MessyHonda]

yeah it can be done...

[rjudgey]

Yes it can be done but unless you hate your hands and arms I'd say it's easier and probably less painfull to pull the engine out and swap it, if you don't you'll need an engine stand to hold it up in place as you'll have to remove the rear mount. You can allways remove everything and see how you get on, hardest part will be getting the box off and then getting the torque convertor off which is full of oil btw!!, then getting the new flywheel on and gearbox mounted.

[beran24]

Yes it can be done but unless you hate your hands and arms I'd say it's easier and probably less painfull to pull the engine out and swap it, if you don't you'll need an engine stand to hold it up in place as you'll have to remove the rear mount. You can allways remove everything and see how you get on, hardest part will be getting the box off and then getting the torque convertor off which is full of oil btw!!, then getting the new flywheel on and gearbox mounted.

yeah i'm gonna pull the engine out of the car i'm drivin to put it together i'm just sayin about when i take it from the parts car

[A18A]

yup much easier to do it that way

[Vector]

i dunno, i've done it both ways... i like leaving the engine in cus then i dont have to disconnect anything from it haha... i used 2 floor jacks.

[russiankid]

One floor jack for me.

[Strugglebucket]

I just let the slushbox fall onto the floor when I swapped. It did nearly kill me, however.

The manual transmission is easy to take in or out by hand. I support the engine with a jack and a piece of wood under the oil pan.

[MessyHonda]

any update?

[beran24]

Yeah i'm just waiting for the snow to melt so i can get the parts car up into the shop and then i'll be ready to go at it

[beran24]

I just got the trans and everything out of my parts car today. I'll that is left in is the clutch, flywheel, and pressure plate.... I'm just wondering when u bolt the flywheel back on the other engine if there is any marks or anything to line it up by?

[Strugglebucket]

Yes, there is an alignment dowel.

[beran24]

Yes, there is an alignment dowel.

what is that? i don't no much its the first time i ever done this

[Strugglebucket]

You'll see it. It's just a short little metal rod on the end of the crankshaft. There is a corresponding hole for it on the flywheel, so it can only go on one way.

[beran24]

You'll see it. It's just a short little metal rod on the end of the crankshaft. There is a corresponding hole for it on the flywheel, so it can only go on one way.

ok thanks alot

[beran24]

Today i got all the parts off of my parts car for the swap except for the flywheel. School all week so I won't be puttin it in this week, but next week march break so no school all week :thumbup: so hopefully i can get it in then.

[Rendon LX-i]

Cool stuff bro. Snap some pics.

[beran24]

Cool stuff bro. Snap some pics.

yeah man i'll take some pics when i'm puttin it in... If i remember lol cause i'll just wanna get it in ha ha.... My auto just went like 2 days ago, no reverse or d4

[beran24]

Today I removed the axles, drained the trans fluid, removed all of the hoses, the starter, and the shifter. Here is a few pics.........

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[Civic Accord Honda]

good shit

[Pico]

brings back sweet memories of when I did mine.
Great progress so far :thumbup:

[Strugglebucket]

If you haven't already, remember to get the flywheel bolts from a manual car. They are longer than the auto ones.

[beran24]

If you haven't already, remember to get the flywheel bolts from a manual car. They are longer than the auto ones.

yeah I got them off of my parts car... I'm plan on dropping the auto out tomorrow........

[beran24]

Worked at it for a few hours today and got the auto out.

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[beran24]

Yesterday got the flywheel clutch and pressure plate in and got the trans up in. The only problem I really had was I got it in then I couldn't get the back mount to line up on the trans but after messing with it for a bit I realized I had to swap the mount with the one from the 5 speed car. Its raining out today so I guess I won't be doing anything..... Hopefully tomorrow I can get the shifter and linkage in and the pedals.

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[A18A]

what's all that red wire for? :O and good luck with the pedals, i remember the first time i swapped them, it was a cunt x10

[beran24]

[QUOTE=A18A;937801]what's all that red wire for? :O and good luck with the pedals, i remember the first time i swapped them, it was a cunt x10[/QUOTE

It just power wire for my amp that i ripped out cause i'm re running it in a different spot. And thanks i'll need the luck lol i'll probably end up droppin the steering post.

[Rendon LX-i]

Nice progress bro...looks like a CUNT to do

[beran24]

Just put the axels back in and started putting hoses and stuff back on

[MessyHonda]

should be a sweet car when you finish

[beran24]

I was just reading this in another post "There is a plug you disconnect when you remove the auto shifter which only lets the car start in either P or N so you have to jump these two wires. The plug has two wires and they are both black" I'm just wondering if they are the 2 larger wires that have the white stripe on them or are they the 2 small wires that are all black with no stripes.

[Strugglebucket]

If I remember correctly, it's the two big wires.

[Civic Accord Honda]

i vwould think the black wire with white stripe as that is the same wire that runs to the ignition and starter

[beran24]

Yesterday I got the shifter and linkage in the and hooked up, the old pedals out and the other ones in and got the throttle cable hooked up. Today i'm gonna hook up the clutch cable, change my gauges, hook up speedometer cable, figure out what wires i need to cut and jump, run my revesre light wires, and check every nut and bolt to make sure they r all tight then it should be good to go.

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[BITESIZE]

I'll be doing this very soon again.... Hint Hint.........

[beran24]

Didn't get it going today.... I had to change my dash cause my old one was broke at the bottom so i figured it was best to do it now while i had the steering post down. So i got that all changed and got the clutch cable hooked up but i got to adjust it or something cause its not workin right.

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[beran24]

Had it running today took it down the road and back seems to be workin alright. Still got a few things to do like jump the wires to get my key out and run wires 4 my back up lights. Then i got to fix my exhaust the flex pipe is broke so its gettin pretty loud.

[Civic Accord Honda]

5speed ftmfw!

['A20A3']

+1 :cool:

[beran24]

Still trying to figure out what wires to join to get my key out i know its the green and white wire but what one does it have to be joined to?

[AccordB20A]

look at your selector and u will see what wire it is to get your key out, theres probably a light green wire at the top of the switch where it is when you used to put it in park, ground that to the black wire and u will be sweet.

with the reverse lights, simply join the yellow wire to the green/black reverse lights wire, the reverse lights should now be always on, under the hood go to the plug to the engine loom beside the battery and on the engine side of the harness pull the covering back and you will see a green/black wire that comes out of the plug and loops back in, thats the reverse lights wire for the auto loom since theres no switch on the gearbox it goes right back in, so you cut that look and wire those two wires to the reverse light switch on the manual box. well thats how it works for JDM accords its should be the same for yous.

[beran24]

look at your selector and u will see what wire it is to get your key out, theres probably a light green wire at the top of the switch where it is when you used to put it in park, ground that to the black wire and u will be sweet.

with the reverse lights, simply join the yellow wire to the green/black reverse lights wire, the reverse lights should now be always on, under the hood go to the plug to the engine loom beside the battery and on the engine side of the harness pull the covering back and you will see a green/black wire that comes out of the plug and loops back in, thats the reverse lights wire for the auto loom since theres no switch on the gearbox it goes right back in, so you cut that look and wire those two wires to the reverse light switch on the manual box. well thats how it works for JDM accords its should be the same for yous.

ok thanks man i'll go out and try to get it workin in the morning.