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TWOLOUDNPROUD
02-23-2009, 09:58 AM
Ok ghettogeddy called this a while back it's time for a change. It is getting quite annoying with all the site errors and we have mod's on here who don't even have a Accord anymore and some of them are not even here half of the time. The time for change is now. lets get this board back on it's feet let's get some fresh blood in here for mod's and retire that are not here as much as they should be and those who don't have accord's anymore. Let's get some poeple who will pull a 110% in to this board as Mod's and get this site back to the way it was.

86AccordLxi
02-23-2009, 10:06 AM
Server errors are not within the control of moderators or admins...

88LXi68
02-23-2009, 10:37 AM
is this a joke?? If there were/any mods that did not want to be part of the site I am sure they could or would say something. I do not believe anyone is holding a gun to their head and forcing them to be a mod.

2oodoor
02-23-2009, 10:53 AM
did somebody clean up all those double and triple posts?
guayanabo was trying to post where he crashed his 3geee :sad2:

AccordB20A
02-23-2009, 11:12 AM
did somebody clean up all those double and triple posts?
guayanabo was trying to post where he crashed his 3geee :sad2:

i noticed that was fail as. but something needs to be done, no other site has this amount of errors, seems to be mucking up every 2nd day

ghettogeddy
02-23-2009, 12:30 PM
theirs nothing wrong with the mods and admins now but what hes saying is back when most of you had a 3g and cared more about them you were prolly 300X active in the site and that most have seen a decline in mod and admin activity in the last 3 years lol


most of us would like to see more active higher ups i check 3geez 30+ times a day

same as a few others tommy included most the time you have to contact someone and by that time 100 people are itching to post lol we dont say this is a drug to us for nothign we actually get antsy when the the site is down lol


as sad as it sounds evertime i click firefox to open 3geez is the first site i go to

turabaka
02-23-2009, 12:41 PM
True dat. I get kinda antsy when there's no 3geez. Especially when I'm in the middle of a project, and the site just got hacked so I can't check the how-to or something stupid like that. Not saying it's the mod's fault, but there's some mods that I hardly ever see anymore.

TWOLOUDNPROUD
02-23-2009, 01:00 PM
What i am trying to get across and this is how it should be. To be a mod on 3geez they should own a Accord but if the mod sell's his Accord and move's on to another vehicle he should pass the torch on to someone else on the site.

86AccordLxi
02-23-2009, 01:05 PM
I own a 3g, and I *still* think that would be a bullshit rule to implement.

MessyHonda
02-23-2009, 01:09 PM
we just need a better server with more ACTIVE MODS

86AccordLxi
02-23-2009, 01:16 PM
I'm confused as to why you all think mods are slacking on here.

We don't have a lot of spammers, the e-arguments are all pretty mild even at their worst and everything generally runs smoothly, server errors notwithstanding.

If you see a problem, just report the post and it gets dealt with accordingly.

MessyHonda
02-23-2009, 01:20 PM
i say if they are not active for more than 3 months...they should put another one....other ppl are on here more often.

AccordB20A
02-23-2009, 01:20 PM
i think they are getting at how it takes over a day for the site to be fixed when it errors out.

86AccordLxi
02-23-2009, 01:21 PM
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THE MODS CAN FIX.

Jesus.

It's errors with the hosting server.

lostforawhile
02-23-2009, 01:26 PM
what is going on with the site crashing all the time anyway? is the V bulletin outdated? I do have to give credit for it being fixed as soon as it's possible, took a while with Ahab the A rab high jacking it,but that's no ones fault. I'm not complaining but I was just wondering whats going on? it' data base error as often as not, it it our server? :sad2: we do need to change a few areas around though to help bring in the new guys, i started a post on that and they responded, when a new person comes on here we need to do more to make them feel welcome and show that we are glad they are here. they may not know anything about the car they just bought, but they can learn anything they need to know here. I' m willing to help out if I can in any way. I'm one of the older members on here. been here forever,was even lurking on the old board.

MessyHonda
02-23-2009, 01:29 PM
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THE MODS CAN FIX.

Jesus.

It's errors with the hosting server.



so we need something that can keep up....who is in charge anyways...joe?

86AccordLxi
02-23-2009, 01:30 PM
It's a server error.

Server =/= vbulletin. Vb is just the forum software.

It's been happening on my own forum as well, and other vbulletin sites I frequent. Something with the mysql server.

ghettogeddy
02-23-2009, 01:51 PM
we just need a better server with more ACTIVE MODS

bingo

tommy that is a lil out there to implement that ever mod have a 3g


but more active hell is there even a full list of mods

1. MrBen
2. HostileJava
3. 86AccordLxi
4. MIK3
5. bobafett


is a partial list i found at least 3 are n/a or barly on

2ndGenGuy
02-23-2009, 02:04 PM
I'd say the admins are fairly active. Fixing the site at least a few times per week. :)

Civic Accord Honda
02-23-2009, 02:34 PM
It's a server error.

Server =/= vbulletin. Vb is just the forum software.

It's been happening on my own forum as well, and other vbulletin sites I frequent. Something with the mysql server.

Yeah the forum problems are not the mods or admins fault I'ts happening on other forums i go on as well .

And i don't think we should retire any of the older mods and i defiantly don't think you should have to own a 3g to be a mod.

Instead of retiring mods it wouldn't be such a bad idea to add 1 or 2 more new mods.
But I don't really see a need for it as this forum does not have a shit load of jack ass's posting on it daily and really dose not get spamed and does not get 1200 posts a day like some other forums .

AccordB20A
02-23-2009, 02:45 PM
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showgroups.php

and i dont see the moderators being a problem, Something has to be done about the server software, its not the current vbullitin as its just been updated, the sql server has got to have fail...

2ndGenGuy
02-23-2009, 02:52 PM
There's nothing wrong with MySQL. Only the programs that are trying to improperly operate with it. It runs on millions of servers without problems daily.

2oodoor
02-23-2009, 03:15 PM
bingo

tommy that is a lil out there to implement that ever mod have a 3g


but more active hell is there even a full list of mods

1. MrBen
2. HostileJava
3. 86AccordLxi
4. MIK3
5. bobafett


is a partial list i found at least 3 are n/a or barly on

dam you left out 2ndGenGuy eek, and Mark.. on every day almost.
all of those have been active in the past 9 months Gheddy, well not sure about MrBen maybe 12 mo for him.
There is the guy with the (avatar) homer simpson wtih turbo on the brain,was on everyday and just dropped out. Can't remember the name but I can find it pretty quick. Shepherd79

I dont think you should have to have a Honda to be a mod. But maybe should be enthuesist and knowledgable.

ghettogeddy
02-23-2009, 03:23 PM
Yeah the forum problems are not the mods or admins fault I'ts happening on other forums i go on as well .

And i don't think we should retire any of the older mods and i defiantly don't think you should have to own a 3g to be a mod.

Instead of retiring mods it wouldn't be such a bad idea to add 1 or 2 more new mods.
But I don't really see a need for it as this forum does not have a shit load of jack ass's posting on it daily and really dose not get spamed and does not get 1200 posts a day like some other forums .

mods and admins arent here just to fix things and ban and shit. when it gets to that point is when its time for a change when mods see the site as only signing on cause somethings wrong

mods are active forum posters people who constantly on and ready to help with out having to send an email lol

86AccordLxi from your post it sounds as if you think were attacking you but its not like that, were looking for replacements of the non active mods and admins the ones that just lurk in the back cause there eather to busy with life (witch is fine) or are just on to fix a prob

and cah adding one or 2 doesn't fix the ones that rarely show up anymore

88LXi68
02-23-2009, 03:38 PM
I think it also BS that a mod needs to have an Accord or even be on the site regularly. If the person is knowledgeable, fair, and respectful of members it should not matter what they drive. Just because someone is not a post whore or spends 24/7 on a computer or message board does not necessarily mean they do not care.

TWOLOUDNPROUD
02-23-2009, 03:47 PM
Vinny is a mod on here but the last time he posted was back in 10-30-2007, 04:28 PM
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?p=834804#post834804

Here who i would like to see become a mod carotman & 88turboaccord i think they would do a excellent job.

86AccordLxi
02-23-2009, 03:50 PM
Carot and 88turbo are admin....

carotman
02-23-2009, 03:59 PM
Yup, I'm an admin. Can't do anything about the server host nor the vbulletin software tough. That's the director job.

These errors really piss me off but I can't really do anything about those. I'm here almost every day for the past 9 years and it's not going to change any time soon. (I even paid for the domain name)

If you guys want more moderators, that's fine with me but I'm not sure if it's really needed. Most of spams of fights are taken care of pretty quickly.

You want more "section moderators"? Like someone knowledgeable in suspensions or carbs, etc?

I agree that we could do a little cleanup in some of the inactive moderators. There's no point in having someone as a moderator that hasn't logged on for a year.

TWOLOUDNPROUD
02-23-2009, 04:02 PM
Carot and 88turbo are admin....

I would to see them move up from Administrators to Moderators these have a lot to offer this site but there power as a Administrators limits what they can do for but as Moderators they can get things done a lot quicker which will benefit 3geez.

86AccordLxi
02-23-2009, 04:03 PM
You have it backwards.

Admin has more control than mods.

TWOLOUDNPROUD
02-23-2009, 04:10 PM
You have it backwards.

Admin has more control than mods.

Well shit on me i feel like a ass http://hondaswap.com/images/smilies/lol_hitting.gif http://hondaswap.com/images/smilies/mstm_headsmash_trans80.gif

2ndGenGuy
02-23-2009, 04:19 PM
Yeah from what I've seen, moderation here happens pretty quick. Never seen anything seriously bad sit for more than a couple hours. Remember, you can just PM us if you see something that needs moderation.

ghettogeddy
02-23-2009, 04:21 PM
n/m

TWOLOUDNPROUD
02-23-2009, 04:21 PM
By way i got one name wong it was 89turbo'ed i would like to see become a mod.

lostforawhile
02-23-2009, 06:01 PM
Yeah from what I've seen, moderation here happens pretty quick. Never seen anything seriously bad sit for more than a couple hours. Remember, you can just PM us if you see something that needs moderation.
yea look how fast they banned Ahmad. :bowrofl: what exactly can anyone do to solve the issues with the database errors? I think that's the thing that drives people crazy. I told someone here about the site,and when i happened to see them again, the response was, that site never works.

AccordB20A
02-23-2009, 06:19 PM
maybe we need to put something else under the names, like we have directors groupe admin group and moderator now we need a guru group :P

2drSE-i
02-23-2009, 07:32 PM
lol @ this thread

I think the moderation of this site is just fine. The database errors are annoying, but it's something thats not just gonna poof overnight. Vbulletin is flawed a bit, we gotta live with it or pay to upgrade to something better, simple as that.

ghettogeddy
02-23-2009, 07:46 PM
lol @ this thread

I think the moderation of this site is just fine. The database errors are annoying, but it's something thats not just gonna poof overnight. Vbulletin is flawed a bit, we gotta live with it or pay to upgrade to something better, simple as that.

it was never this bad before we switched to that new fancy looking style lol
back in 06-07 shit ran tits lol

for the amount of foundation members i think we just expect for this shit to work everyday
more people that can fix the prob theirs what one or 2 people that do it why not 4 or 5

hell how many of you can say they can get a hold of someone that can fix it

LX-incredible
02-23-2009, 07:47 PM
:werd: I'd chip in for the upgrade but it would never come to that. I vote to start getting rid of pointless threads from years back. Or would that just be a waste of time?

2drSE-i
02-23-2009, 07:50 PM
It would be a monstrous waste of time. Unless you want to volunteer to go through the old threads, that probly wont happen. Maybe if some of the older stuff (like 3 years +) could be archived.
The new styles went away in favor of trying to get rid of the problems, and it didn't work. I think theres something messed up with the software/server interface.

LX-incredible
02-23-2009, 07:54 PM
it was never this bad before we switched to that new fancy looking style lol
back in 06-07 shit ran tits lol


Yep, that's when I started noticing this shit as well. They can keep that homo ricer green, arctic white, and pink shit.

LX-incredible
02-23-2009, 07:58 PM
It would be a monstrous waste of time. Unless you want to volunteer to go through the old threads, that probly wont happen. Maybe if some of the older stuff (like 3 years +) could be archived.
The new styles went away in favor of trying to get rid of the problems, and it didn't work. I think theres something messed up with the software/server interface.

I would if it would help.

Rendon LX-i
02-23-2009, 08:05 PM
LOL....I remember when i first joined no problems as the years go more members more post whore more everything causing errors i think...so i think they do a good job. thats my 02 cents.

ghettogeddy
02-23-2009, 08:13 PM
LOL....I remember when i first joined no problems as the years go more members more post whore more everything causing errors i think...so i think they do a good job. thats my 02 cents.

im not talking about the active mods 2ndgenguy,86AccordLxi and markmdz89hatch

and active admins carotman to be honest is the one i see the most

no disrespect to anyone else but i read every post and post in almost all the threads i see whos around and whos not and thats only 5 people


theirs still a couple that are active that i have left out but these are the most active but even with the rare actives theres still has to be about 5 unused mods
then again i dont know were to find a full lsit of mods there needs to be a thread were all the mods check in so you can go to it and pm them as needed
so we know lol
i know the support ticket system is there but then i feel like im calling comcast cause my cable is out


the personal relationship ship between members and mods/admins i think has lost a few steps

liek said before is a chore to most no longer fun

lostforawhile
02-23-2009, 08:31 PM
Yep, that's when I started noticing this shit as well. They can keep that homo ricer green, arctic white, and pink shit.

I thought the board was only supposed to turn pink and homo on april first,they didn't do anything last year. booooo!! no fun. the board problems didn't start until the upgrades. never saw these kinds of problems until then. oh as far as mods cah can be vice assistant mod in charge of certain minor things. such as the spray paint mod. :bowrofl:

LX-incredible
02-23-2009, 08:39 PM
they didn't do anything last year. booooo!!
They didn't have to...

LX-incredible
02-23-2009, 09:01 PM
The vehicle in profile is back and no more choice for the homo style! Awesome, thanks !!!

Civic Accord Honda
02-23-2009, 09:11 PM
the pink layout was awesome

ghettogeddy
02-23-2009, 09:14 PM
i made a list of all admis mods directors im sure one or 2 are fakes but here it is

also made a complete foundation list ill post it in general chat for all to see

here is the link for that
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67861


2ndGenGuy mod
3geeztestuser director
86AccordLxi mod
87accordlxi director
88turboaccord admin
A20A1 mod
AZmike mod
bobafett mod
carotman admin
HostileJava mod
Jareds 89 LX-i mod
marc49 director
markmdz89hatch mod
MIK3 mod
Sabz5150 mod
YK86 mod

LX-incredible
02-23-2009, 09:40 PM
the pink layout was awesome
...

ghettogeddy
02-23-2009, 09:48 PM
...

it brought fun to the site
when everyones avatars got meesed up
and there sigs changed it was fun and games
this site is so drap now lol

turabaka
02-23-2009, 09:50 PM
i made a list of all admis mods directors im sure one or 2 are fakes but here it is

also made a complete foundation list ill post it in general chat for all to see

here is the link for that
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67861


2ndGenGuy mod
3geeztestuser director
86AccordLxi mod
87accordlxi director
88turboaccord admin
AZmike mod
bobafett mod
carotman admin
HostileJava mod
Jareds 89 LX-i mod
marc49 director
markmdz89hatch mod
MIK3 mod
Sabz5150 mod
YK86 mod



I thought that A20A1 was also an admin? Is she not anymore?

ghettogeddy
02-23-2009, 09:54 PM
I thought that A20A1 was also an admin? Is she not anymore?

her badge isent working she still is just added it to the list

2oodoor
02-24-2009, 04:44 AM
I thought that A20A1 was also an admin? Is she not anymore?

that member brought a LOT to this forum, we need her back because she is one of the few that understood the Oem carb set up, for all those questions by new members trying to fix the oem carb. I know a little but I usually say strip it out to nothing or either swap to a weber.

3gmodifier
02-24-2009, 09:39 AM
hey think carotman has a good idea with having topic specific admins/mods. kinda like specialists or something

oh, not to get off topic but with all the mods and admins here, i was just wondering, when ur accord of the month, does ur accord of the month badge under ur name go away after a month or do u always have it? just wondering. thanks guys

markmdz89hatch
02-24-2009, 11:03 AM
poop on me for not finding this thread until now.

I think we've beaten the 'errors on the board' thing to a bloody pulp. I can assure you that if there were a known fix for the errors, they would have been resolved. Does anyone think otherwise?

Yes, they suck. Yes, they're annoying. ...and Yes, as of right now, anything that can be done is being done, and any additional ways of really resolving this are actively being investigated.

...while there are mods that have not been very active lately, I'm not sure how having an inactive mod is hurting anyone in any way. Are they not responding if you PM them? If that's the case, then please report it to another active mod/admin/director. Otherwise, who cares?

I can say from my own personal experience, that up until about 1-1.5 years ago, there were a TON of members her who didn't even know who I was, nor had they ever seen me on the board. ...yet I've been here since way back in the EZ board days ('01 I think). I'm VERY grateful that I was not bumped from Mod status due to my inactivity because although I was MIA for a while, once returning, I feel I've been able to resume my responsibilities fairly well.

In my book, the primary responsibility of a Mod is to maintain his/her designated sections in an orderly manner, and help out anywhere else they can. That means cleaning up shitloads of duplicate posts, that means being the bouncer when needed, AND helping out where he/she can on the issues where they have knowledge.

I'll be the first to raise my hand and say there are a number of members here that are WAY more knowledgeable about aspects of the 3G than I am, and I'm happy to say that. ...but as a member, you're just as capable as answering someone's call for help.

There are a handful of 3Geez staff members here among the THOUSANDS of members. We cannot see everything that goes wrong, and cannot always be the first to be the referee when something breaks out. ...There have been a number of members that have reported posts that have gone awry as well as PM'd me to tip me off about a possible issue (member, thread, etc). All of the rest of the staff get the same thing occasionally, which is an example of why things work so well around here.

Can it be better? Everyone's going to have their own opinion, but I'd be hard pressed to find another forum that has so many contributing members doing some great stuff, and being so willing to offer a helping hand.

What about a 'Suggestion Box' being setup as a place for members to make suggestions?

TWOLOUDNPROUD
02-24-2009, 01:13 PM
Since the admin and mod's have there hands full with the day to day biz of this site.Here my idea give ten people temporary mod status to clean up old thread's and remove all the crap.Ten people working three hours a day should be able to have this site cleaned up in a week and that might help with the site errors. What do you guy"s think?

ghettogeddy
02-24-2009, 01:14 PM
poop on me for not finding this thread until now.

I think we've beaten the 'errors on the board' thing to a bloody pulp. I can assure you that if there were a known fix for the errors, they would have been resolved. Does anyone think otherwise?

Yes, they suck. Yes, they're annoying. ...and Yes, as of right now, anything that can be done is being done, and any additional ways of really resolving this are actively being investigated.

...while there are mods that have not been very active lately, I'm not sure how having an inactive mod is hurting anyone in any way. Are they not responding if you PM them? If that's the case, then please report it to another active mod/admin/director. Otherwise, who cares?

I can say from my own personal experience, that up until about 1-1.5 years ago, there were a TON of members her who didn't even know who I was, nor had they ever seen me on the board. ...yet I've been here since way back in the EZ board days ('01 I think). I'm VERY grateful that I was not bumped from Mod status due to my inactivity because although I was MIA for a while, once returning, I feel I've been able to resume my responsibilities fairly well.

In my book, the primary responsibility of a Mod is to maintain his/her designated sections in an orderly manner, and help out anywhere else they can. That means cleaning up shitloads of duplicate posts, that means being the bouncer when needed, AND helping out where he/she can on the issues where they have knowledge.

I'll be the first to raise my hand and say there are a number of members here that are WAY more knowledgeable about aspects of the 3G than I am, and I'm happy to say that. ...but as a member, you're just as capable as answering someone's call for help.

There are a handful of 3Geez staff members here among the THOUSANDS of members. We cannot see everything that goes wrong, and cannot always be the first to be the referee when something breaks out. ...There have been a number of members that have reported posts that have gone awry as well as PM'd me to tip me off about a possible issue (member, thread, etc). All of the rest of the staff get the same thing occasionally, which is an example of why things work so well around here.

Can it be better? Everyone's going to have their own opinion, but I'd be hard pressed to find another forum that has so many contributing members doing some great stuff, and being so willing to offer a helping hand.

What about a 'Suggestion Box' being setup as a place for members to make suggestions?

idk i see it as id like to do my part for the forums, why are the mods and admins so against giving up there spot to let some fresh faces do the work its not like were asking anyone to leave just let the new bread of 3geez do the dirty work

ive been here 3 years and running 8k+ posts and to be honest only a handful are really post whoring lol im no were near as bad as cah or messy but for the most part i try and help out every one that comes here if i can even if im wrong it helps me get the right answer lol

we just want to do our part and not just the part of hitting a button and telling someone else

markmdz89hatch
02-24-2009, 01:27 PM
Is there something I'm missing?

The errors have little-to-nothing to do with a few random post whores, so 'cleaning up' some threads I highly doubt will have any affect on anything. I'm not even sure we have 10 mods, so adding 10 just to clean up? ...trouble is what you determine a junk post or thread, someone else may not, or visa-versa. Are we not keeping up with our house-keeping obligations?

Seriously though, you guys are making it sound like there's so much garbage out there on these threads. Ghetto, you're talking about feeling slighted because you can only 'hit a button to tell someone else', yet I don't recall seeing any reported posts/threads from you. I'm not trying to call you out, but I'm not sure what you mean by wanting to do more than just hitting a button.

Trust me, I and many other members here, appreciate all that you do contribute to the board, as well as all that others contribute too.

But really are things so bad around here that we need to promote a few more guys just to help keep the peace or delete nuggets from post whores?

ghettogeddy
02-24-2009, 01:48 PM
Is there something I'm missing?

The errors have little-to-nothing to do with a few random post whores, so 'cleaning up' some threads I highly doubt will have any affect on anything. I'm not even sure we have 10 mods, so adding 10 just to clean up? ...trouble is what you determine a junk post or thread, someone else may not, or visa-versa. Are we not keeping up with our house-keeping obligations?

Seriously though, you guys are making it sound like there's so much garbage out there on these threads. Ghetto, you're talking about feeling slighted because you can only 'hit a button to tell someone else', yet I don't recall seeing any reported posts/threads from you. I'm not trying to call you out, but I'm not sure what you mean by wanting to do more than just hitting a button.

Trust me, I and many other members here, appreciate all that you do contribute to the board, as well as all that others contribute too.

But really are things so bad around here that we need to promote a few more guys just to help keep the peace or delete nuggets from post whores?


well i dont hit the button, for the simple fact that i cant say thanks to the person that did the work i normally go to a mod on aim when i need that doen still then the only one i go to is 2ndgenguy cause when he fixes it he liets me know and i say thanks

and still no one wants to say why they cant give up there spot for a new member
why is it such a big fn deal to let someone new take over

2oodoor
02-24-2009, 01:57 PM
well put Mark, and a great example of not lynching an inactive mod, wholly chimpanzee owner's best freind face ripp dude.

and as for cleaning up old threads, I can see the point but then one man's trash is another man's treasure

I respect the attention and constructive dialogue this thread is getting.


But that said, it is like the V6 swap thread or the turbo carb thread, it is like st andres fault or something.. gets a litte higher on the richter once in a while.
those elmo dolls keep getting creepier or what?

cubert
02-24-2009, 02:03 PM
lol @ this thread

A18A
02-24-2009, 02:05 PM
i dont see any problem with moderation, just the fail forum software/server/whatever it is that keeps failing

lostforawhile
02-24-2009, 02:09 PM
we have some people on here with really good computer and software smarts, why not try to get some of them to put their heads together, and try to figure out the error problem?

ghettogeddy
02-24-2009, 02:13 PM
i dont see any problem with moderation, just the fail forum software/server/whatever it is that keeps failing

for the last time no one is saying they are doing a bad job at all end of story end of that

and it has nothing from me to do with the way the site has been running
my original thread that tommy based this one did not as well
even if it was brought up it wasent the point of the thread

i just want to know whey we cant swap them out

why cant we have fresh faces ones with more time on there hands ones that might be able to bring new ideas to the table that might be able to change shit lol


im starting to sound like a broken record of a presidential debate

when going through the list of memebrs to get the foundation list and mods admins list


there are so many inavtive accounts that are just wasting space making it harder to find active members do we really need those members that havent signed in scence 2004 i dotn think so

but witch one of you would be willing to do the work

none cause if there was it would be done

2oodoor
02-24-2009, 02:18 PM
in perfect world....
hey look! POS carb posted today! good thing we didn't give em the boot

ghettogeddy
02-24-2009, 02:20 PM
in perfect world....
hey look! POS carb posted today! good thing we didn't give em the boot
how hard is it for him to make a new account lol
if you have been gone for 4 years
lol i get emails all the time about my other accounts being inactive for more then say 2 months and if i dont sign in there getting deleted

what is that guy that has been here scence 2001 but never posted anything and only signed in once
giving us
nothing but another name to look over when we are looking for another member

86AccordLxi
02-24-2009, 02:27 PM
I'm not sure why it matters.

Deleting a few members won't stop the database errors. And, as evidenced by POS Carb finding his way here, people do come back.

ghettogeddy
02-24-2009, 02:31 PM
I'm not sure why it matters.

Deleting a few members won't stop the database errors. And, as evidenced by POS Carb finding his way here, people do come back.

ok hes been gone for like 8 months lol

im talking about people that signed up and never signed back in



and stop repeat stop talking about this being about a database error



read the last say 4 post of min in here and answer the question


why is it so hard to change the mods?

markmdz89hatch
02-24-2009, 02:37 PM
Who cares?

so there are some accounts that have been inactive for days/weeks/months/years. That's not a labor intensive change, it's a very quick/easy change. The fact that it hasn't been done doesn't hurt anything.

What "shit" needs to be changed? Why does someone new need to be brought on as a Moderator? Who cares so much about being recognized on this board as a Moderator as opposed to a regular member, foundation member, etc?

There are a pile of members here, some of whom have posted in this very thread, that have been here since the beginning of time, and/or who have done soooo much and have so much to contribute. ...and they are still members, and still contribute, and don't complain that they aren't Mods. Yet, if they see something that they feel could be improved or something needs to be brought to someone's attention, they know the effective ways to get themselves heard. (And trust me, it's not by starting a "Viva la revolution" thread.) Just keep on keeping on. Status-quo.

If no one's doing a bad job, and there's nothing fundamentally wrong with the way the board is currently run/running, then why argue that there needs to be more Mods?

Do you want administration to promote you as a Mod? If someone else is promoted instead, although you'll still have to "just hit that button" will you feel better that there's one more Mod on the team? How will that help? What will that help? Who will that help?

I'm tired of arguing in circles. The majority of the replys to this thread have been "There's nothing wrong with the way things are now."

ghettogeddy
02-24-2009, 02:48 PM
Who cares so much about being recognized on this board as a Moderator as opposed to a regular member, foundation member, etc?

why are you defending it so much why cant you give up your spot for someone new

its a simple answer but you dont want to sound greedy right

markmdz89hatch
02-24-2009, 03:02 PM
why are you defending it so much why cant you give up your spot for someone new

its a simple answer but you dont want to sound greedy right

So you want me to give up my seat for you?

...right, so poll please....

...Does someone reading this thread support the idea of me standing down and passing the torch? If so, please don't hesitate to respond because other Mods/Admins/Directors are watching this thread, and if it's proven that I'm no longer wanted as a Mod, I'm sure they'll do what they feel is right.

Why do you want it so bad? Am i doing such a shitty job that you think I should be removed?

Civic Accord Honda
02-24-2009, 03:03 PM
why are you defending it so much why cant you give up your spot for someone new

its a simple answer but you dont want to sound greedy right
why should he have to give up his spot? i think he is doing a fine job

ghettogeddy
02-24-2009, 03:11 PM
So you want me to give up my seat for you?

...right, so poll please....

...Does someone reading this thread support the idea of me standing down and passing the torch? If so, please don't hesitate to respond because other Mods/Admins/Directors are watching this thread, and if it's proven that I'm no longer wanted as a Mod, I'm sure they'll do the right thing.

Why do you want it so bad? Am i doing such a shitty job that you think I should be removed?

ok seriously stop stop your killing me



my question is and has been why cant we change the mods not a personal attack on you
lol

everytime i ask the subject changes
why cant we change all the mods

no one is doing a bad job end of that
mayeb some new faces doing the good jobs

TWOLOUDNPROUD
02-24-2009, 03:18 PM
I did not start this thread to start a fight between member's and mod's i want that to stop now! Back in 03 when i first came to 3geez there was all ways a mod to help you no matter what time it was there was like three or four mod's per section. in seven years i only posted 3,223 as you can see there no post whore here i just like to read. I started this thread for two reasons 1 to get more mods add 2 to clean all the worthless thread's going as far back as 2001 there is at least 5-8gb of crap on here. 86AccordLxi take your self out of invisible mode show people your here i am sure that will help 100%.markmdz89hatch your here most of the time and ready to Help so to me your kool so is carotman /2ndGenGuy / bobafett /88turboaccord . so lets add couple new mod's and clean house.

ghettogeddy
02-24-2009, 03:21 PM
I did not start this thread to start a fight between member's and mod's i want that to stop now! Back in 03 when i first came to 3geez there was all ways a mod to help you no matter what time it was there was like three or four mod's per section. in seven years i only posted 3,223 as you can see there no post whore here i just like to read. I started for two reasons 1 to get more mods add 2 to clean all the worthless thread's going as far back as 2001 there is at least 5-8gb of crap on here. 86AccordLxi take your self out of invisible mode show people your here i am sure that will help 100%.markmdz89hatch your here most of the time and ready to Help so to me your kool so is carotman /2ndGenGuy / bobafett /88turboaccord . so lets add couple new mod's and clean.

def wasn't trying to attack one mod lol or attack any of them no one has read anything i have wrote apparently lol

lostforawhile
02-24-2009, 03:30 PM
i see thread going nowhere but down from here. I just want to see the database errors fixed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZT4owFcD4M http://www.myspace.com/Modules/PostTo/Pages/?t=Popcorn%20Video&c=%3Cobject%20width%3D%22425%22%20height%3D%22355% 22%3E%3Cparam%20name%3D%22movie%22%20value%3D%22ht tp%3A//www.youtube.com/v/sZT4owFcD4M%26hl%3Den%26rel%3D0%22%3E%3C/param%3E%3Cembed%20src%3D%22http%3A//www.youtube.com/v/sZT4owFcD4M%26hl%3Den%26rel%3D0%22%20type%3D%22app lication/x-shockwave-flash%22%20width%3D%22425%22%20height%3D%22355%22% 3E%3C/embed%3E%3C/object%3E&u=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DsZT4owFcD4M&l=1

TWOLOUDNPROUD
02-24-2009, 03:31 PM
i see thread going nowhere but down from here. I just want to see the database errors fixed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZT4owFcD4M

:ugh:

ghettogeddy
02-24-2009, 03:32 PM
i see thread going nowhere but down from here. I just want to see the database errors fixed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZT4owFcD4M

then your lost, lost that isent what this thread is about

2oodoor
02-24-2009, 03:43 PM
valid point TOOLOUD

hey lets just keep entering pointless posts here and see if the database error hits.. but wait



that is not what makes it happen?

to have 24 hour mod we need NZ coverage yes?

ghettogeddy
02-24-2009, 04:03 PM
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66249

my original thread

87roach
02-24-2009, 04:56 PM
Seriously, this thread is a waste.

ghettogeddy
02-24-2009, 05:01 PM
so do i really need top pm someone so i can get my answer lol


still no one has said why we cant have some new faces the mods spots
no one is doing anything bad but whats the big deal with having new guys take over
giving someone else the torch and letting them do it

hell i say once a year we should do mod swaps
just so all the vets and some of the new guys on there way to being vets can have a go if they feel the need to

TWOLOUDNPROUD
02-24-2009, 05:54 PM
I would like to hear from marc49 on this.I PM him and ask him to read this and give us his feedback.

TWOLOUDNPROUD
02-24-2009, 06:12 PM
I was just thinking about should we have election's for mod's once a year? Here is my idea the admin pick who they think is qualified and they run against existing mod's let the members pick. This is just a idea what do you guy's think?

2drSE-i
02-24-2009, 07:40 PM
I was just thinking about should we have election's for mod's once a year? Here is my idea the admin pick who they think is qualified and they run against existing mod's let the members pick. This is just a idea what do you guy's think?

I'm gonna say no, just because it would turn into a popularity contest


"CAH for Admin in 2010!"

lmao

lostforawhile
02-24-2009, 08:51 PM
I'm gonna say no, just because it would turn into a popularity contest


"CAH for Admin in 2010!"

lmaocah for spray paint can mod.

Civic Accord Honda
02-24-2009, 08:59 PM
I'm gonna say no, just because it would turn into a popularity contest


"CAH for Admin in 2010!"

lmao

:lol: :lol: :lol:

LX-incredible
02-24-2009, 09:22 PM
Take it easy, where's the fun in having 10 mods per section? I think it's kind of nice not having to worry about getting jumped for every insignificant violation of the rules, that's what makes this board so cool. Besides, you guys would probably start to quarrel on who got to do that as well.

I do think it would be nice to get rid of some of these retarded threads. It's such a pain going through all that crap every time you search.

ghettogeddy
02-24-2009, 10:14 PM
Take it easy, where's the fun in having 10 mods per section? I think it's kind of nice not having to worry about getting jumped for every insignificant violation of the rules, that's what makes this board so cool. Besides, you guys would probably start to quarrel on who got to do that as well.

I do think it would be nice to get rid of some of these retarded threads. It's such a pain going through all that crap every time you search.

maybe just some special project managers

like a couple people that are supposed to clean up old memebrs and some to clean up old posts

bobafett
02-24-2009, 10:23 PM
just posting so i am subscribed.... this thread is hillarious...

the forum is fine, we don't need another shit load of mods. we don't have a lot to moderate.... the forums is not very large, and not very active, as far as forums go. we have TONS of mods per post as it is.

And like people already mentioned, this whole site is pretty much holding hands and singing songs compared to most places out there.

Now if we want to start flaming like HMT/HT/etc then by all means, i will get started right away, and we might want to get another mod on board to ban all the people i piss off... ;-)

protip - WE DONT NEED MORE MODS, EVEN WITH HALF INACTIVE ONES!

lostforawhile
02-24-2009, 10:25 PM
I nominate messy for official post whoring specialist first class mod.:rockon:

ghettogeddy
02-24-2009, 10:32 PM
just posting so i am subscribed.... this thread is hillarious...

the forum is fine, we don't need another shit load of mods. we don't have a lot to moderate.... the forums is not very large, and not very active, as far as forums go. we have TONS of mods per post as it is.

And like people already mentioned, this whole site is pretty much holding hands and singing songs compared to most places out there.

Now if we want to start flaming like HMT/HT/etc then by all means, i will get started right away, and we might want to get another mod on board to ban all the people i piss off... ;-)

protip - WE DONT NEED MORE MODS, EVEN WITH HALF INACTIVE ONES!

ok its not about more but replacing the fossils we have with new blood

no one seems to understand that lol

you mods have done a great job and still do but id liek to see most swapped out and givin a pat on the back for the great service to the site

or are you to be a mod / admin till you die

bobafett
02-24-2009, 10:34 PM
i guess i just fail to see the point or what it would accomplish... EDIT - when the site runs fine as is...

ghettogeddy
02-24-2009, 10:37 PM
i guess i just fail to see the point or what it would accomplish... EDIT - when the site runs fine as is...

you and all the other admins lol

Civic Accord Honda
02-24-2009, 10:42 PM
i guess i just fail to see the point or what it would accomplish... EDIT - when the site runs fine as is...

x2

TWOLOUDNPROUD
02-24-2009, 11:58 PM
Take it easy, where's the fun in having 10 mods per section? I think it's kind of nice not having to worry about getting jumped for every insignificant violation of the rules, that's what makes this board so cool. Besides, you guys would probably start to quarrel on who got to do that as well.

I see you did not read the whole thing. What i said was to add ten temporary mod's to clean out all the worthless no good piece of crap thread's that's just wasting space on the site by doing this the everyday mod's can keep there attention here on this site after the ten temporary mod's where done they would go back to being member's.By the way if was up to me i would add two more mod's thats it no more.

LX-incredible
02-25-2009, 12:32 AM
I see you did not read the whole thing. What i said was to add ten temporary mod's to clean out all the worthless no good piece of crap thread's that's just wasting space on the site by doing this the everyday mod's can keep there attention here on this site after the ten temporary mod's where done they would go back to being member's.By the way if was up to me i would add two more mod's thats it no more.

I read, just exaggerating is all. I'm not arguing with you on the clean up, that's something that needs to be done. Only ones that can argue to that are more concerned with their post count than bettering the site. I wonder who the lucky two would be..

2ndGenGuy
02-25-2009, 12:34 AM
The search results order by date. Therefore, if your search is pulling up threads that are old, that's because nothing newer came up that was relevant to your search. So I really don't see what cleaning out old threads is going to accomplish. It's not going to stop the database errors, I hate to say.

Civic Accord Honda
02-25-2009, 12:40 AM
Matt's signature matchs what this thread has turned in to :lol: :lol:

this thread is the picture they put next to the definition of cancer in the dictionary

LX-incredible
02-25-2009, 12:45 AM
Not really expecting it to. I have no problem with old threads with useful information, it's just annoying searching for something and going through 10 or 20 threads of "where can I get this" and whatnot. Hell, 70% of all useful information can't be found on the first search page.

Civic Accord Honda
02-25-2009, 12:50 AM
Not really expecting it to. I have no problem with old threads with useful information, it's just annoying searching for something and going through 10 or 20 threads of "where can I get this" and whatnot. Hell, 70% of all useful information can't be found on the first search page.

i think it would be awesome if users could delete there own threads... i would defiantly love to go back and delete alot of the old useless threads i posted

(for example : the could someone photoshop a wing on my car , who else blasts justin timberlake in there car(WTF WAS I THINKING !) can someone resize this picture for my sig (about 5 threads asking that.) and 90% of threads that just contain people flaming me :lol: )

2oodoor
02-25-2009, 05:25 AM
i think it would be awesome if users could delete there own threads... i would defiantly love to go back and delete alot of the old useless threads i posted

(for example : the could someone photoshop a wing on my car , who else blasts justin timberlake in there car(WTF WAS I THINKING !) can someone resize this picture for my sig (about 5 threads asking that.) and 90% of threads that just contain people flaming me :lol: )

me too :kekeke: you

I am just thankful this is not like cb7tuner where you have to wear baby shoes forever, that shit is FAIL
Or like on PP where there are sections that are nazi camps.
Or Carolina Hondas where there is so much shit being posted that I need windshield wipers on my eyeballs
or any of the other forums mentioned here already, we have a good group.

disclaimer: I enjoy the afore mentioned forums regardless of how they compare. They provide the services I needed when I read there.

3gmodifier
02-25-2009, 12:23 PM
wow, i have read every single post in this thread. you guys are starting to whine. we all need to just calm the f*** down and reevaluate the situation. shit will get taken care of at some point. i mean i too would like some sort of change,but i am in no hurry.


did any of the admins/mods read my earlier post in this? i had an important question and i not read anything thus far answering me. thanks guys

markmdz89hatch
02-25-2009, 01:09 PM
hey think carotman has a good idea with having topic specific admins/mods. kinda like specialists or something

oh, not to get off topic but with all the mods and admins here, i was just wondering, when ur accord of the month, does ur accord of the month badge under ur name go away after a month or do u always have it? just wondering. thanks guys

hey you're right those are both valid questions/points.

to the first...
As mods or admins, we do have certain sections that we're primarily responsible for, but as many have already said, there's not a whole ton of 'moderating' that needs to happen on this site, and none of us are very territorial, so if we need to clean something up, lock a thread, etc, even if it's not in our sections, we'll do what we have to do and let eachother know.

As for the Accord of the Month, I'm not really sure. I think that those icons are pretty much accurate for the existing AOM election. There may be some instances when the AOM logo will stay for a few months, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't stay forever. As for the AOY, I think I've seen at least two members with that logo under their handle, so that may be a permanent logo.

If it is, maybe we should put a year on the AOY logo so we can know they were "AOY 2008" etc.

sorry your questions got buried in the garbage posts to follow (mine included).

ghettogeddy
02-25-2009, 01:21 PM
hey you're right those are both valid questions/points.

to the first...
As mods or admins, we do have certain sections that we're primarily responsible for, but as many have already said, there's not a whole ton of 'moderating' that needs to happen on this site, and none of us are very territorial, so if we need to clean something up, lock a thread, etc, even if it's not in our sections, we'll do what we have to do and let eachother know.

As for the Accord of the Month, I'm not really sure. I think that those icons are pretty much accurate for the existing AOM election. There may be some instances when the AOM logo will stay for a few months, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't stay forever. As for the AOY, I think I've seen at least two members with that logo under their handle, so that may be a permanent logo.

If it is, maybe we should put a year on the AOY logo so we can know they were "AOY 2008" etc.

sorry your questions got buried in the garbage posts to follow (mine included).

if you look at my list of foundation members i made you would see the aoy's and the year because i belive they get foundation for winning right

2ndGenGuy
02-25-2009, 01:33 PM
...none of us are very territorial...

Speak for yourself, Mark!!! You better stay the $%#@ out of the 1gee and 2gee sections!!! :kekeke:

AccordB20A
02-25-2009, 02:06 PM
haha go john

TWOLOUDNPROUD
02-25-2009, 02:29 PM
Speak for yourself, Mark!!! You better stay the $%#@ out of the 1gee and 2gee sections!!! :kekeke:

:inout:

marc49
02-25-2009, 08:02 PM
Ok, it's time for me to make my grand entrance and grace you with my presence.





That's a joke in case anyone didn't get it....:bandance:

Regarding the DB errors, we're not exactly sure why they're still happening. Joe worked very hard to back up the DB and basically reinstall Vbulletin in it's base format. The thinking was that some of the add-ons were causing conflicts with the DB. That doesn't look like it's necessarily the case now. So we're now leaning toward the possibility that we happen to be on a version of VB that was bad for DB errors and because of that we will be renewing our license very soon to upgrade to the latest version. We'll give that about a month and see if the errors continue. If they don't then I'm sure Joe will start adding some of the features back to the site and go from there. Whenever there is a DB error, only Joe or I can fix it. We're the only ones who have access to the server tools to run a MYSQL DB repair tool. Unfortunately we both can't be on the website totaling 24 hours a day but we're not going to give anyone else server level rights.

Regarding the moderators and the possibility of adding new ones. We're always keeping an eye out for good moderators and if we feel that someone will be a good choice, we'll approach them about it. Granted it's been awhile since we've added new ones and we're making a more concerted effort to look for qualified candidates.

Now, what makes someone a qualified candidate? I'm not going to give specifics of what we look for because I don't think we have to justify how we select moderators. But I do want to say that the easiest way to take yourself out of consideration is to ask to be a moderator or campaign to be a moderator. Having one of the fastest or most tricked out accords makes you a candidate and probably a winner for AOM or AOY but doesn't mean you're a good fit for a moderator. Having a ton of knowledge about the accord and helping other members, makes you a valuable member to this board, but again doesn't necessarily mean you would make a good moderator. I stand by our selection process because we have some great moderators. Even the ones who may be inactive now, they were great. Choosing a moderator never has been nor will be a popularity contest.


That's another thing, this site doesn't need near the amount of moderation as other similiar car enthusiast sites. I believe this is the most autonomous car enthusiast web site out there. Our member base is great. There isn't the need for a lot of moderation. There was a time where we had to crack down hard (anyone remember Nate?) and we did. We then slowly relaxed our policies.

I know i haven't hit every topic in this reply, but I've already written a book so I'll stop now.

2drSE-i
02-25-2009, 08:27 PM
Thanks Marc!

AccordB20A
02-25-2009, 08:34 PM
all the vbullitin websites i go on have database errors its weird as

TWOLOUDNPROUD
02-25-2009, 08:58 PM
marc49 has spoken
Now SomeOne Close This Thread:wave:

3gmodifier
02-25-2009, 09:16 PM
hey you're right those are both valid questions/points.

to the first...
As mods or admins, we do have certain sections that we're primarily responsible for, but as many have already said, there's not a whole ton of 'moderating' that needs to happen on this site, and none of us are very territorial, so if we need to clean something up, lock a thread, etc, even if it's not in our sections, we'll do what we have to do and let eachother know.

As for the Accord of the Month, I'm not really sure. I think that those icons are pretty much accurate for the existing AOM election. There may be some instances when the AOM logo will stay for a few months, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't stay forever. As for the AOY, I think I've seen at least two members with that logo under their handle, so that may be a permanent logo.

If it is, maybe we should put a year on the AOY logo so we can know they were "AOY 2008" etc.

sorry your questions got buried in the garbage posts to follow (mine included).

its all good man. pretty much thought tha but just wanted it confirmed. and no worries about my burried post. with all the animosity going around, i totally understand.

3gmodifier
02-25-2009, 09:20 PM
to all of the mods/admins, i have noticed that the "my posts" link is no longer next to my username. i looked in "UserCP and i cant find a link. how do i look up my previous post's? i wann check to see if there is anything new with my post's. thanks guys.

AccordB20A
02-25-2009, 09:54 PM
I had a bit of a time finding it too but if you click and go to your profile, you will see your visitor messages, there will be a tab saying statistics click it and its on there cheers

Find all threads started by 3gmodifier (http://www.3geez.com/forum/search.php?do=finduser&u=6378&starteronly=1)

3gmodifier
02-25-2009, 10:36 PM
I had a bit of a time finding it too but if you click and go to your profile, you will see your visitor messages, there will be a tab saying statistics click it and its on there cheers

Find all threads started by 3gmodifier (http://www.3geez.com/forum/search.php?do=finduser&u=6378&starteronly=1)

thanks mate! oh by the way, the rear fog light set up that u have listed, is it the factory twin setup? and also, what does it come with? (I.E. harness, switch......) thanks.

oh, i am almost done with the digi climate control write up. i just finished pulling my dash, yet again, to replace my brake prop. valve. i just need to upload all the recent pics and finish the tutorial.

AccordB20A
02-25-2009, 11:32 PM
thanks mate! oh by the way, the rear fog light set up that u have listed, is it the factory twin setup? and also, what does it come with? (I.E. harness, switch......) thanks.

oh, i am almost done with the digi climate control write up. i just finished pulling my dash, yet again, to replace my brake prop. valve. i just need to upload all the recent pics and finish the tutorial.

good man, maybe ill sell the two climate controls i have left when your wright up is done.
the rear fog lights are the two that go in the bumper at the back, i have the switch and pigtail you will need to run a wire to the back and power to the switch

87accordlxi
02-26-2009, 06:31 AM
:inout: