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lxaccord
02-23-2009, 02:56 PM
when i get my kyb struts do i have to replace anything else.....wil adjustable coilovers work on them....are there any mods i have to do
86AccordLxi
02-23-2009, 02:59 PM
Coilovers will make your kyb's blow pretty quick.

They're oem replacements and not valved for stiff springs.
import racer
02-23-2009, 03:05 PM
do the top-hat mod might help them last longer.
lxaccord
02-23-2009, 03:07 PM
what kind of stuts should i get
Joay
02-23-2009, 03:13 PM
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48187
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11093

Basically: there are no plug-and-play struts for our cars that will handle a significant drop.
codyJDM
02-23-2009, 03:18 PM
There are full bodied coilover applications readily available now though. If you are willing to spend $700+ of course.
ghettogeddy
02-23-2009, 03:45 PM
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48187
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11093

Basically: there are no plug-and-play struts for our cars that will handle a significant drop.

my tokicos seem to handle just fine lol do the top hat mod and tokicos and you should be good to go
87roach
02-23-2009, 03:52 PM
Don't do the "top-hat" mod.
ghettogeddy
02-23-2009, 04:40 PM
Don't do the "top-hat" mod.

cant just say that and not have a reason
codyJDM
02-23-2009, 06:26 PM
cant just say that and not have a reason

Word, have a bad experience? Mine held up like beasts!(I did it a different way than 87 though.)
cubert
02-23-2009, 06:44 PM
i dunno..the top hat mod kinda sketches me out..
lxaccord
02-23-2009, 07:34 PM
so which would be better to get kyb or tokicos....with a bout a two or two and a half inch drop....with colilovers
ghettogeddy
02-23-2009, 07:47 PM
so which would be better to get kyb or tokicos....with a bout a two or two and a half inch drop....with colilovers

tokicos are the only strut said to be for lowering that is available
Rendon LX-i
02-23-2009, 08:27 PM
x2....I have kybs and there holding up still. but im changing those sometime lol. I have eibach 2.5 in front and 2.25 in back.
86ccord
02-24-2009, 08:41 AM
x2....I have kybs and there holding up still. but im changing those sometime lol. I have eibach 2.5 in front and 2.25 in back.

how long have you been running the KYB's
Rendon LX-i
02-24-2009, 01:35 PM
since 05 and still holding...im surpised...Stiff...but thats me..
Joay
02-24-2009, 01:51 PM
Bounce much?
86ccord
02-24-2009, 01:57 PM
since 05 and still holding...im surpised...Stiff...but thats me..

ok well thats good to know.. i just picked some kyb's up cause i couldnt pass up the deal.. LOL
Rendon LX-i
02-24-2009, 07:14 PM
LOL NO BOUNCE...well of course of you hit a big as s bump but its only one bounce and thats it...stiff like i said..
GTRSkyline43
02-24-2009, 08:14 PM
i know that no more than 1.5 drop on tockios but is it the same wit hthe kyb since there just stock replacements?
MessyHonda
02-24-2009, 09:40 PM
yeah on my dx...my suspension is kinda soft and on my car its stiff as hell
Rendon LX-i
02-24-2009, 10:51 PM
They are stock replacements but i didnt give a phuck....i at the time thats all the money i had and it was the best 200ish i every spend lol.
lxaccord
03-02-2009, 02:11 PM
So there is really no difference between kyb and tokios
markmdz89hatch
03-02-2009, 02:42 PM
So there is really no difference between kyb and tokios

exactly. Both are rated at 10-15% stiffer than stock, but sold ONLY as an OEM replacement by both mfg's.

The top-hat mod will not help you if you're only going down 2-2.5 on shocks that are made for the 3G. More risk then benefit there. I have seen only maybe 2-4 members on this board that have done it safely and had good reason to do it. (Please guys, don't jump down my throat about this, I'm not trying to call anyone out here, just setting the record straight based on what I know. I'm not saying I'm a suspension guru, but IMO it's not worth the risk.)

As for lowering, IF I had no choice and had to run Toki's or GR-2's, the only spring I would run is an Eibach Sportline. ...and that would be only if I had NO other option. A nice compromise between cost and performance would be GR-2's in back, and Koni's or revalved Bill's up front on Eibach Sportlines. That would ride pretty good IMO, and wouldn't beat the sh!t out of you on daily driving.
Rendon LX-i
03-02-2009, 06:47 PM
X2
fogged
03-02-2009, 08:23 PM
Wouldnt putting a tower bar make the top had mod alot more safe? To me that would solve any added stress due to the rise the top hat mod gives.
markmdz89hatch
03-03-2009, 06:28 AM
I personally don't think so. In fact I think the bar would make it worse. When a bar is added to bridge the towers, under cornering it puts a lateral stress on the towers. With a longer bolt just floating out in outer space under your hood, there's a much better chance of bending it when you apply lateral stress.