Flame F&F Not The Exhaust Flame - Who's Got The Biggest Flame... Pics Inside

[87 Honda Prelude]

hey all you honda guyz out there that want flaming exhaust...well i want it too! but i heard they don't make kits for 4 bangers, does anyone out there know where i could get FLAMING EXHAUST???
thank you
Jeremy

[GDGuy11B]

i think i saw an ad in a magazine for Autoloc. they had some sort of flamethower thing you could buy.

but besides, as cool as that sounds...it's still rice.

[Mantis88LX]

its also Corn, cuz old muscle cars used to do that, they riged up a spark plug in the exaust pipe then some how got it to spark and shoot flames out

[MoonScryer]

This is an old hot rodder trick. The skinny? Weld a boss onto your exhaust pipe right behind your muffler. Put a spark plug in it. Run a wire for power. Put a toggle or pushbuttom switch on the power wire, mount that near your drivers seat. Push button for flaming effect.

It lights the exhaust gasses coming out. Nothing more to it than that.

[jteuton]

My car does it when i run nitrous through it but I have been trying to stop it cause something like that means you are in a state of detune. The only ways you could get an exhaust to do that is to run way rich (which is why mine flames when i shoot nitrous) and add a spark at the the tip to ignite the fuel again. On a car that is properly tuned it should burn all the fuel and there shouldn't be hardly anything else left to burn so if you ignite it again in theory nothing will flame. This is also bad for you headers, very bad for your cat, and mufflers. Its no telling how long they will last cause the flame always reverbs and heads back up the pipes before canceling out. You can thank the valves on the head for these dynamic waves. I always though of this as very scray cause what would happen if it kept igniting fuel all the way back into the head? Anyways if you want this too happen....get a fpr and adjust it to 44psi so you'll run way rich....you should be able to smell the extra fuel....and then add any kind of spark at the tip of your exhaust with a push button and boom......instant flames.....good luck burning your car down.

[1989se-i]

How many volts does it take to get the spark to jump the gap on a spark plug?

[kicker1_solo]

Originally posted by 87 Honda Prelude
i heard they don't make kits for 4 bangers
I saw a bunch of 4 bangers do it on the fast and furious :D

[jteuton]

Ok....the fast and furious is a movie and is mostly fiction. But i sense you are playin around so I agree that is funny. But to be more serious I think this idea is dangerous. It takes alot of voltage to jump spark on a plug depending on the gap. Your talking around 5000 volts with a very very small gap. It seems to me you would have to tap off your coil and run an insulated wire back to the bung to the spark plug. But any spark would work so why use a 10k to 40k volt spark plug and risk shorter out your electrical system?.....why not use something else that sparks more easily....

[Stew]

I'm an old hotroder...

heres how its done:

You need a coil and a spark plug (chevy and ford coils can be had very cheeply at a junk yard and are a simple 2 wire hook up). You use an old plug wire to go from the coil (which you mount in the trunk or under the car in a safe place) to the spark plug which is screwed into the exhaust via a O2 sesor bung that any muffler shop can install for you.

Now the wiring from the coil goes to a relay, you will need a 12V source with a fuze (20A or so) and a toggle switch for the dash.

To burn the nylons of the legs of the young ladies behind the car you rev it up and flip the switch! Unburned fuel ignites and fires back a couple feet.

Now you accord guys need to be aware of a couple of things. One: your flame isn't going to shoot that far beacuse these cars are pretty gutless and dont move a lot of air. A turbo car or a big american V8 is just going to be more impressive, but it will still be good for a show.

Now second and more importantly our mufflers are at the rear of the car if you plumb in the spark plug before the muffler you risk blowing it off the car or at least melting the glass packing inside it. If you plumb it in after the muffler it will probably work fine, but it its trial and error :) Again remember that most american V8s had the mufflers just after the headers well under the car, this is a better setup as far as flamethrowers go. I imagine a good straight thru import muffler will work well though.

Just throwing in my $.02

Stew

[1989se-i]

im gonna try it

[Mantis88LX]

dont blow yourself up :bandit:

[Neuspeed87lx]

Originally posted by Mantis88LX
dont blow yourself up :bandit:
:werd: careful man

[1989se-i]

STEW: What do you consider an "old" ford? I imagine ill find alot of those in the junkyard :D
Also, should I use a car sparkplug, lawnmower, weedeater, etc... (sparkplug)
And Also, heh, if i throw the switch and leave it thrown, will it keep sparking, or just spark once?

:super:

[Stew]

Originally posted by 1989se-i
STEW: What do you consider an "old" ford? I imagine ill find alot of those in the junkyard :D
Also, should I use a car sparkplug, lawnmower, weedeater, etc... (sparkplug)
And Also, heh, if i throw the switch and leave it thrown, will it keep sparking, or just spark once?

:super:

Actually even ford right up till 1993 had a 2 wire coil like on the mustangs and F-150s. Any coil will do really.

I would use a car spark plug, but just about anything will do, open the gap up to like .055

You wont be able to hold a sustained flame by keeping the switch thrown unless you car runs pig rich. Gas vapours need to build up before they can be ignited. Thats why you rev your engine then flip the switch (and keep revving). You will probably get a few seconds of good flame, then it will die down to a little ball. Nothing to stop you from doing it over and over tho.

Have fun :)

[Neuspeed87lx]

let us know how it goes too

[POS carb]

u go stew :super:
finally a mofo that knows how to do it!! lol!!

I've been itching to do it to my new exhaust since I got it like 3 months ago and my carb runs rich as hell

[1989se-i]

Sweeet. :super:

Ill pick up a coil tuesday, i gotta werk on monday goddamnit!!!!
Heh, could i use my stock coil? its being replaced with an accel, so im just gonna trash it anyway..?

:super:

[Stew]

Originally posted by POS carb
u go stew :super:
finally a mofo that knows how to do it!! lol!!

I've been itching to do it to my new exhaust since I got it like 3 months ago and my carb runs rich as hell

hehe... I think I have pics of my old 79 mustang with the flames going I'll have to dig that box of photos out of the garage.

To 89se-i: I havnt looked at the coil on our cars. It dcertainly makes enough spark but the real question is how its hooked up. a 2 wire setup is what you need (for simplicities sake, just a pos and neg terminal).

:flame:

next weeks discussion: minitubs :)

[A20A1]

Originally posted by Stew


next weeks discussion: minitubs :)

All right... hey someone find out who has that 3G limo.

[1989se-i]

Ill try it with my coil first, just to save cash, cause I threw away my old spark plug wires :(

I have 2 tips comming outta my muffler... should I do both, or just one? Should I even place the sparkplugs on the tips, or should I do it before the muffler, or will that make the muffler explode?
Im trying to find out where to place the plugs, incase you havent figured that out :p

[Stew]

is the muffler baffeled or is it a straight thru?

If it is straight thru put the plug before the muffler, if it is baffled or chambered I would sugest putting it on the muffler tip for safty.

The problem with baffler mufflers is that they trap a lot of gas vapor, so you may not have very impressive reults.

A straight thru muffler would really be your best bet.

Stew

[1989se-i]

I have the stock '89 SEI muffler, dont know what kind it is.

So far I got the spark plug(s), and coil. Im going to get some Geo metro wires tomoro, since theyll prolly be cheapest

If i need to place it after the muffler, should i do both thips?

Do i need to put a ground to the muffler?

If i splace the neg wires together and the pos wires together on my stock coil, will that werk?

I dont wanna shock the shit outta myself (again) or blow myself or my car up. :p

[1989se-i]

Splace==splice

[Stew]

I really couldn't say how good your results will be with a restrivtive stock muffler. I also dont see how you would branch from the coil to 2 spark plugs (one in each tip). Start with one and see if it works in any case.

You will not need a ground on the muffler.

I also don't see any reason to buy new plug wires. go to a wreckers and grab the longest one you can find off of a domestic V8. It should be free.

As for wiring the stock coil for use I really couldn't say. I know there are more than 2 wires but without knowing what thier function is I can't help you.

I recomend a 2 wire type coil as I mentioned before. And again a used one from a wrecking yard should be practically free.

Stew.

[1989se-i]

Thanks, ill be visiting the junker tomoro, then burning things

[Midnight]

i got a coil from a motorcycle you think thats works ? and if it has two plugs on the coil should there be one pos and one neg.

i got a strait pipe exaust you think i would get nice flame or any at all?

[Stew]

midnight: yes I would think that would work nicely!

[87 Honda Prelude]

i am still confused on what i need to make my car a flamer......:-)
help me out.

[netfreak]

If anyone lives through this, I'd like to have a how-to

[1989se-i]

Im trying it after skool. If youd dont hear from me before midnight, youll know what happened ( :flame: <ME> :burn: )

[1989se-i]

Fuck. I got all the parts, they all werk.

BUT. Ive been trying to drill a hole in my exhaust tip, but it wont go through!!! I got 1 cm hole.... but the drill bit melted... HELP!!!!

[Stew]

You need a carbide or titanium drill bit to go thru steel. Any parts store should have one.($2)

[1989se-i]

I found ONE in my dads tool box, it opened it up to about 1/4 inch or so

Im thinking it needs to be 9/16?

Ill guy buy a 1/2 and a 9/16

Stew: you are god

:bow: <Stew>

[Stew]

Originally posted by 1989se-i
I found ONE in my dads tool box, it opened it up to about 1/4 inch or so

Im thinking it needs to be 9/16?

Ill guy buy a 1/2 and a 9/16

Stew: you are god

:bow: <Stew>

yeah 9/16" sounds right for a spark plug... take some pics when you have it all together.

lol @ god.... i'm not a god just a guy thats been cutting his knuckles on cars and spending every last cent on em for way too long!

[1989se-i]

I Got the frickin plug in yey!

Alls I gotsa do now is wire it.

Stew: On the coil, does it spark when it gets voltage?

How do i wire this? + straight to the battery, - to the batter with a switch on it? So when i flick the swicth, the circuit is complete, and causes it to spark? :-/ Do i put the pos on the chassis..., help

[Stew]

Originally posted by 1989se-i
I Got the frickin plug in yey!

Alls I gotsa do now is wire it.

Stew: On the coil, does it spark when it gets voltage?

How do i wire this? + straight to the battery, - to the batter with a switch on it? So when i flick the swicth, the circuit is complete, and causes it to spark? :-/ Do i put the pos on the chassis..., help

Yes the coil sparks when it gets voltage!

This is where the relay comes into play. You ar not putting a hot circuit straight fom the battery to the coil and back to a switch, this is pretty dangerous.

Instead you use a standard 5 point relay with 12V battery power and a chassis ground, and from that relay to the coil and then the last 2 points go to a switch.

Think of it like this on each relay point:

- 12V source
- Ground
- Power to coil
- Pos to toggle switch
- Neg to toggle switch

When you flip the switch the relay allows 12V past it and to the coil.

[1989se-i]

http://www.geocities.com/icaruscode/flamer1.txt
http://www.geocities.com/icaruscode/flamer2.txt

Sorry bout the water mark... All I gotta do is wire the switch :p

[1989se-i]

Please dont make fun of my muffler :( hehe

[1989se-i]

Allright Stew, I gotsa problem.

Im getting no spark. Heres how i tried it: Pos is grounded to heat shield. I ran a wire from the neg to the neg on the bat. I know the coil werks, tested it in my car, i checked the sparkplug wire, its fine, and the sparkplug is brand new, gapped to about 50.

Any suggestions?

[Stew]

http://members.shaw.ca/mustang/pics/flamethrower.JPG

youve heatshild is NOT a ground!

I would also recomend taking power off a switched power source not the battery so that it can flip on by accident when the car is shut off (your cigaret lighter should do the job).

[1989se-i]

Ok, got the biatch to spark. But no ignition. Regapped it to 60, sparks, but no ignition, even when i rev to 5K

[1989se-i]

stew? help?! hehehe

[1989se-i]

Yea, im going to finish the wiring job when i get it to ignite...

could i be getting a weak spark cause its not grounded properly, thereby casuing it not to ignite?

[Stew]

Prolly the exhaust

with a cat and a stock muffler not much unburned fuel is going to escape.

time for a new exhaust system sans cat.

[1989se-i]

Me thinks we were on at the same time :-p

What happens if i plug up the other exhaust tip? will the exhaust be more concentrated in the other tip?

[monsonhonda]

stupid question, but couldnt you use a starter for a gas grill?

[A20A1]

it may not have enough spark... I used to shock my friends with those... and watch their muscles spazzz!

[1989se-i]

Its wednesday, and im still not getting any flames :(
Im getting a spark, a very large one, i dont know what else to do.. maybe ill get a new muffler with my next paycheck...

Any ideas?

[Jdub07]

Originally posted by 1989se-i
Its wednesday, and im still not getting any flames :(
Im getting a spark, a very large one, i dont know what else to do.. maybe ill get a new muffler with my next paycheck...

Any ideas?

Take your cat off and put a strait pipe on

[anchovies]

maybe you're just not running rich enough??

[1989se-i]

I think im running lean actually...

Im trying to figure out hw to adjust my af ratio, if i do and i still dont get any flames... at least i might get a lil more power.. and ill get new exhaust, my muffler is falling apart anyway

[Stew]

The catalytic copnverter is the biggest hagup for unburned fuel dude. Hot rods and Fast imports with em are all running very free flowing exhaust.

[1989se-i]

heh..... I had the Pos and Neg switched on the coil.

I flipped those around, wired up a switch... It sparks... but still no cigar.
My dad knows a guy that will remove my cat.

Do you think 60 is to large of a gap for the spark plug?

[Stew]

if you can see spark then 60 is fine.

you could maybe try a plug that protrudes father into the pipe.

I think you are gonna have to uncork that exhaust before you get flamage.

Stew

[1989se-i]

Uncork?

[Stew]

uncork=remove restrictions like your cat and factory muffler.

[rallyeNate]

(1989se-i) did you say that you have the pos hooked up to the ground? should that go to power?

ya want flames? run the car rich and retard the timing. everytime you shift or let gas it will pop and spit flames. (this is a bad idea)

[jteuton]

i told you in the first place that if you don't have an adjustable fpr or if you aren't running rich there is not enough left over fuel to burn a second time

[1989se-i]

im removin my cat friday, so we'll see what happens :p

[POS carb]

Shit I think I'm gonna rig that on mine when I get it back, mine runs nasty rich when I want it to... good way to get tailgaters off my ass, just gun it and throw some fire their way, they'll be like "Oh shit"

[jteuton]

Mine shoots blue flames when I hit the Nitrous cause its pilled way rich for safety......and I don't even Have a spark plug in my exhaust. They did get more noticeable when I removed the cat and my friends say its cool but I think its dangerous.

[1989se-i]

Danger's my middle name.....

[netfreak]

I really want to see how this works out. I have a feeling my car already shoots flames... I've heard loud noises come from my exhaust when i rev high and I've had people honk at me and other weird shit. I'll have to mount a camera back there or something to be sure though

[bass]

I saw an old mustang with this once. I think what he said was that he had a switch that would kill the ignition temporarily. So he would rev it way up and hit that switch, causing pure unburned fuel to go out the exhaust. Doesn't sound too great for your car and it would definitley require a straight though exhaust (no cat, muffler). I guess you could put in a switch that would kill the power to your coil and get the same effect.

[dXsquared]

so what happened??? did it fall through??? what happened?
Travis

[1989se-i]

i got it werkin on my old muffler, then i got a new chrry bomb, and never hooked it up on that one :(

[dXsquared]

a cherry bomb would be the shit for that. thats what i have and i know how NO RESTRICTRIONS they are...

Travis

[A20A1]

any pics?

[1989se-i]

..what do you want pics of?

[A20A1]

de flames... de flammmmmessssss! :D

[89accordboi]

i cant wait to hear about it, if it works good for you maybe i'll do it to impress some ladies :P

[HostileJava]

I'd love to see if this works. Does anyone know if the ractive stainless steel mufflers are glass packed? I'd like to know if i put a plug before my muffler if it will hurt it at all.

[A20A1]

You luck dawgs... some member came across this thread so's I decided to check it out again... figured I'd leave it up top for a while.

enjoy. :burn:

['A20A3']

the reason he cant shoot flames is he doesnt have enough unburnt fuel. he has the SE-i for christs sake! the fuel injected model. he needs a carb model to pull this off.

[88accord]

this is how its really done.
get a small propane tank run a line to the exaust and put a spark at the end.this will ensure ignition and will not need a high voltage spark to ignite.dont anyone here watch monster garage?

[1988starter]

Never mess with propane in that way it is a sure way to go kaboom

['A20A3']

i love to blow shit up! i love to blow shit up!

[Euro2.0ex]

http://tnga.home.att.net/Tech/flame_throwers.htm

[buzzbomber88lx]

Need a coil??? I have several ford coils off of 79-93 mustangs. they will work.

[slammedLXI]

i think this is the only case where i wish my car was carburated lol... the link given above is exactly what u need, very detailed with part numbers and such, if uwant to do this follow that link.

[RyanLXi]

if you have a manual transmission and you want to see massive flames and a muffler explode here is how (and yes it does work i have done it and do have pics of the charred remains) Transmission in NEUTRAL - Rev motor up (I reved to about 5000 for maybe 10 seconds then went up to 7000 for a second) - Once you reach your highest RPM level, quickley turn the ingnition key off and back on. I guarantee it is worth it i dont care how much your muffler costed. You should videotape it though i wish i would have it was awesome the cops came and everything it sounded like a shotgun went off in the neighborhood

[anchovies]

Why is this thread IMPORTANT?

[dj_004]

ok this might sound stupid but on the movie The Fast And The Furious..... when they were lined up to race and there were flames shooting out their exhaust. why was it doin that? was it the NOS? or an after burner or what? :wtf: and how can i do it to my car.... i think it would look awesome!!!:super:

[Tref_LXI]

well its a system that sends pure fuel down your exaust which is then ignited by a single spark plug per exaust outlet. I dont think its possible to do this while the car is moving, because it shuts the fuel flow off and sends it directly down below. It is also illegal to do on the street i think, so just look into all of that.

[bobafett]

in that movie it was propane injection that was used...

basically a button that would release propane gas, and a magneto or spark plug or something was hidden in the muffler and would light the gas. its really gay and you probably shoulndt put it on your car... :)

i have seen heavily modded cars do that a lot because of unburnt fuel when they shift. i have seen it on modded supras and dsms at the track. but its only a quick flash of flames. :)

then again since you have a carbed accord, you can go to www.autoloc.com and buy a kit to do this. heheh

[Tref_LXI]

thats very ricey though, very ricey

[dj_004]

well my car is carbed so cant i just make it run rich and some how rig up a spark plug on my tall pipe? (i have straight pipes with a straight throw design Magnaflow muffler, so theres no air flow restictions)

[dXsquared]

get a coil, get a spark plug, get an old plug wire... hook the coil up like you would on any car, install the plug in the tip of the muffler, run a switch to turn on the coil...then rev the car to like 3000 and flip the switch... you should put a 40 or so amp relay between the swtick and the coil

Travis

[86AccordLxi]

Darkside is running a borla muffler on 2.25 inch piping and a gutted cat and his car will shoot flames (for a short period of time). He has a weber and is running rich, but it's kinda sweet to watch from behind.

Alex

[dXsquared]

hmm... i have a headers, no cat, and i straight through muffler, i also have a weber that runs rich... why dont i get flames...

???????????????????????????????????

Travis

[dj_004]

am i able to use anything other than a spark plug?

[dj_004]

and should i mount the spark plug behind the muffler or on the tip?

[dj_004]

and what kind of plug should i use a lawnmower, car, or what?

[dXsquared]

just get any plug at the store... its all good.. make shur it will fit in the pipe tho.. and after the muffler... and all you can use is a plug... make shur you get a coil too.. 12 volts wont make a big enuff spark to ignite anything

Travis

[dj_004]

how do i make it run rich?

[NXRacer]

there are kits available now that let you 'bolt on' this type of system. The best way is to find a nut that fits the spark plug you're going to use, cut a hole in the pipe and tac weld the bold over the hole. I saw the kit installed on a classic on HP TV on TNT a while back. I'm sure you could just do a search and find out who sells the kit and/or instructions on how to do it yourself.

I have a friend who had a civic running NOS and when he raced it would shoot flames just like in the movie.

[dXsquared]

you dont need to make it run rich... with a carbed car with no cat it should be rich enuff... maybe just get a KIT... search for it...like on google...

Travis

[dj_004]

has anyone here do this before.... without a kit?

[dXsquared]

yes.. i have... on a 455 lol...

get a kit.. they are all over ebay

Travis

[infecto]

Its pretty lame to do but I think you should get the idea of how to do it. Just put the spark plug near the end of the exhaust and you ahve it.

[rideredorgohome]

I only have one thing to say....:rice: :rice: :rice: :rice: :rice: :rice: :rice: :pimp: :pimp:

[1988starter]

Originally posted by dj_004
ok this might sound stupid but on the movie The Fast And The Furious..... when they were lined up to race and there were flames shooting out their exhaust. why was it doin that? was it the NOS? or an after burner or what? :wtf: and how can i do it to my car.... i think it would look awesome!!!:super:

Another young mind destroyed by that damn movie

[‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›]

Originally posted by 1988starter
Another young mind destroyed by that damn movie

Flaming Exhaust have been around since the 50's!

[pimp86LX]

Originally posted by ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›
Flaming Exhaust have been around since the 50's!

Right, but the old guys figured out it was stupid and made it a conspericy so the younger generation wouldn't do it....:flip: :D

[1988starter]

Originally posted by ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›
Flaming Exhaust have been around since the 50's!

True but it was not untill after that movie that every other 16 yr old wanted one.

[dj_004]

you have to admit..... it does look pretty cool! and you talk about all of us teen agers trying to mimick the movie.....? ok what do every little kid do after he or she watches a Bruce Lee movie????? he or she runs around trying to act just like Bruce Lee~!! so theres no shame in it!

[pimp86LX]

sure it looks cool. but dumping raw fuel through your entire system CANT be good for it. So the novelty wears off.

[1988starter]

It may look cool coming out of an old street rod but not a civic or an accord.

[stizle]

heheh if i ever get my car fixed im ogin to get it.......lol

[dj_004]

i think it would look tight!!! and i knknow how to do it with out a kit but my only problem is what if the flame gets sucked up into my engine.... is the any way to stop that?

[stizle]

hmmmmmmmm good question i aint tryin to do just to look rice i mean nice !!

[dXsquared]

umm.. the exhaust system is long.. just dont let off on the gas till the switch is off and the flames have stopped.. if the gases are flowing out, they cant go back

Travis

[pimp86LX]

ohya...you can't even do this if you run a CAT. the fuel must travel freely to the end. even a high flow cat won't work.

Overall its not worth it. oooo flames...big deal. its just another way to be a poser. my car is so damn fast it shoots flames at the red lightz yo...PLEASE don't do it!!!

[Brettmans5]

found this on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2423196408&category=33742
there's a fast and a furious kit.....yay.... don't forget to buy the fast and the furious license plate holder and the floor mats...... now you can be uber cool too...... sigh..... well some people might like it so i guess there will be some sales.

[rocky2]

Your burning unburnt fuel. u need a 12 power sourse(hot wire), toggle switch, coil,long coil wire,spark plug,mig welder/brazing torch,drill, nut , just do it about a foot from end of tailpipe,hook it all up make sure u have a spark at plug 1st by turning toggle swicth on and off fast,just don't have a leaking fuel tank or boom!

[dj_004]

yeah know what you mean!! but what kind of coil??? from what car?

[Justin86]

After I gutted my cat and cut off my muffler I was getting a lot of back fire. I tried to adjust the carb but I made it worse and I was shoting out flames.:D

[A20A1]

We had a rather large thread about flaming exhaust. In fact I think I had it as a sticky thread at one point.

http://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6796&highlight=flaming+exhaust

[Morbid Intentionz]

Originally posted by Stew
http://members.shaw.ca/mustang/pics/flamethrower.JPG

).

Ok i know this is a very OLD thread but i was just wondering could i get this type of relay out of a car and where can it be located?

[Morbid Intentionz]

Is there a way to just use a regular relay? Cause i cant find a relay like that..

[HostileJava]

You should just be able to pick up a relay like that at a auto store or an electronic parts store.

[Morbid Intentionz]

OK i got a 12v coil and spark plug and wire from buddy. Kinda broke so cant get a relay. So could i just wire the coil, push button and spark plug and make it spark like that?

[HostileJava]

With out the relay you've got full current/voltage going through that push button. I have no idea what the current draw would be but it's probably more that your switch can handle.

[Vinny]

I would think you could use just a standard bosh relay from any stereo and alarm shop

[Vinny]

I would think you could use just a standard bosh relay from any stereo and alarm shop

[Morbid Intentionz]

Well igot a relay. So ill hook it all up and see if iget a spark. Then ill let you guys know what happened

[88LXiHB]

Flaming Exhaust != COOL.

[88LXiHB]

Sarcasm...

[HostileJava]

DO NOT THREAD CRAP

[88LXiHB]

Originally posted by HostileJava
DO NOT THREAD CRAP

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[HostileJava]

Thank You.

[Justin86]

I'm kind of thinking about doing it. My friend is going to do it on his Blazer and will help me hook it up. I was shoot flames when my car back fired but I have it tuned down. :)

[Morbid Intentionz]

Ok i feel retarded askin this question but here it goes. Now when i hooked it all up using the switch i got nothin. THen i rehooked it all up using no switch still nothing. But when i was messing around with it and i think i touched something metal in the car and sent a shock through me and then it work. wasnt a volt that hurt , it was just like if you have ever been shocked with one of those charcoal lighters. But anyways back to my question. So is the spark plug itself grounded too? Or is it just what goes from the coil that makes it spark?

[Morbid Intentionz]

http://tnga.home.att.net/Tech/flame_throwers.htm ---for pic
85 -chassis ground

86 -switch. this can be just about any kind of switch you want. I used a momentary on
pushbutton. Don't worry about size either, it only has to fire the relay and doesn't carry
heavy amperage -that's the relay's job. The other terminal on the switch itself goes to a
power source.

30 -to ignition (the key) switch. This terminal powers the relay. If you mount the relay in
the engine room, you can disconnect the coil+ wire and put it here.

87 -to the electronics. This terminal is normally off. It comes on when the relay is
triggered to fire the 'throwers.

87a -to the coil+ (or ballast resistor) on the engine. This terminal is normally on and goes
off when the relay is triggered.

Terminal 30 would normally be connected to battery, but since you want to be able to
shut off the engine at the end of the day, you use the wire from the ignition switch.
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Ok so for terminal 85 i would hook up a push button with one side - and one side + right? THen for terminal 30 could i hook up a toggle there for 12v acc that comes on when ignition is on and the switch is on?

[troutz15]

what the hell are these coils? some1 explain what kinda coils these r and what they do.

[Morbid Intentionz]

Step one in process, complete. Step two and three Completed 2morow. Then if it all works out i will be sure to post pics! Most people say it works but never see pics well, time to change that. Stay tuned...............

[toastyghost]

omfg i can't believe this is still goin
just get one of your ***** riceboy friends to stand behind the car with a zippo

[Morbid Intentionz]

Ok 2 things to say...

1. If you dont like this topic or dont have anything positive to say then dont post period.

2. Explain rice? Is rice to you doin stuff to your car that dont make it go faster? Cause if so then half these people on here are rice. Aftermarket gauges dont make you go faster.Paintin interior parts dont make you go faster. Aftermarket gauge bezels dont make you any faster. Gettin a new shift knob or boot or anything else not related to engine doesnt make you go faster. So please dont post if your not here to encourage. Thanks

[Justin86]

Originally posted by toastyghost
omfg i can't believe this is still goin
just get one of your fucktard riceboy friends to stand behind the car with a zippo
:lol :lol :lol :lol Oh shit I would love to see that.
Well I went to that site and it said it wouldn't work for EFI. SO then how would I do it. Add I little nitrious to the mix?

[HostileJava]

You could disconnect the vaccum hose that controls fuel flow so that you get constant hi flow and then get an adjustable fuel regulator and turn it up higher then you need it.


Originally posted by toastyghost
omfg i can't believe this is still goin
just get one of your fucktard riceboy friends to stand behind the car with a zippo

Thread Flaming/Crapping is not exceptable.

Keep us updated on your progress, I can see a real use for this mod. Adds some showiness to the car, and I would use it to make those people back off that insist on riding my ass.

[Justin86]

Originally posted by HostileJava
You could disconnect the vaccum hose that controls fuel flow so that you get constant hi flow and then get an adjustable fuel regulator and turn it up higher then you need it.



Thread Flaming/Crapping is not exceptable.

Keep us updated on your progress, I can see a real use for this mod. Adds some showiness to the car, and I would use it to make those people back off that insist on riding my ass.
Yea that might work. I never thought about it for that use. :flame: My friend has a 110W fog light that he uses for when people tailgate him. He drive a Nissan Patrol so it isn't too fast but it 4x4's like no other.

[Dragonfly]

today i had a freind weld a spark plug onto a piece of eughst pipe wich i had in place of my muffler..hehe......i got a old toyota ignition system in the trunk and a wire runing out to the spark plug DAMM iiiits sooo cool u get a 3 foot long flame shooting out of my huge eughst tip im going to get a freind to take some pics soon every time i have it turned on and i let off the gas (when the transmition engine breaks) the spark plug lights the unburnt fuel ill get some pics tomrow or this weekend

[adams86lxi]

TIGHT! i want to see some pics! :cool:

[adams86lxi]

ooo BTW: dude tell us how you did it and how you connected it to the toyota igniton! :cool:

[Dennis]

yeah for real, thats cool and probably illegal but the cool factor will overide the legal issue in my point of view, plus you could put a switch in the dash to turn the flames on or off. :cool2:

[Dragonfly]

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/516000-516999/516132_3_full.jpg ok thats the coil setup the brown wire goes to power the pick up coil wires need a few volts set to them (just tape a wach battery to them :P) and thier u go the coil thinks its time to fire up a cylnder and pop u get a spark over and over the coil set up is out of a 85 toyota pick up 22r engine carb.



ignor my dumb ass cat he wouldnt move

[TJ89Accord]

I used to get flames out of the exhaust of my MR2. But that is because the exhaist was like 2 feet long lol.

tim

[Dragonfly]

my little digatl camra can do quicktime video if any one can tell me of a place i can upload it ill make one

[HondaBoy]

did you do the set up where you cut power to the spark plugs in the engine and put fuel into the exhaust? that how to do it old school style, maybe thats the only way? anyway, i havent seen many people do this much anymore. i thought about doing it. its not all that hard. well hope to see the pix/video.

[DanLXI88]

:lol: Guess people won't want to tail gate you. There isn't a chance that could melt something like say your bumper ?

[Dragonfly]

na my 3 inche di. chrom tip pokes out abought 2 in. from the bumper

[Dragonfly]

ohhh i forgot u have to get rid of your cat. the stupid thing burns off any left over gas leaving none for the uhhh "light show"

[SataniC]

hie wassap guys...i used to install this flame thrower kit on my 3rd G's...that is until i was caught by the coppers red handed when doin some free show at the traffic light junction...1 love letters courtesy from the malaysian police and they confiscated the stuff....here's a pic of my car in action...hope u guys like it and dun take me as one of those :rice: hahahahahah :cheers:

http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/3fefd608_6ad6/bc/2809/__sr_/5362.jpg?phfZWXABwxmmW4bp

[A20A1]

http://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?t=6796&page=1&pp=20
so many flaming exhaust threads... nice work though

[Dragonfly]

http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/show_image.pl?fg=000000&bg=FFFFFF&migration=1&image=http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/516000-516999/516132_4_full.jpg pic of it at night

[od2681]

holy crap...
that looks so clean...
now what to do about the horsepower to go with it....lol

[SrvZro]

my little digatl camra can do quicktime video if any one can tell me of a place i can upload it ill make one

Hey, email it to me. I'll put it on my server and email u the link. Does ur camera get sound too? That would be awsome to see + hear it. oh yeah, my email is [email protected]

[Blue Impact]

http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/show_image.pl?fg=000000&bg=FFFFFF&migration=1&image=http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/516000-516999/516132_4_full.jpg pic of it at night

Mad props to you, man. :bow:

[Dragonfly]

http://download.flyingtitan.com/upload/fire-it-up-dragonfly.mov

ok heres the video its on quicktime ita abought 1 mb in sise enjoy :burn:

[ChaseR]

that was awesome....

[BDaccordguy]

fricken sweet dude.

[SataniC]

sweet dude...can't wait for my DIY flamethrower to be completed....hehehehehe

[Jdub07]

I know this thread is OLD but SIX pages and not one photo...not one result? :uh:

someone just show me a photo of the relay needed and I'll have photos of the flame and video if someone can host it.

[86LXItooFAST4me]

This Is Gay

[AccordEpicenter]

flamethrowers arent that rice... in fact ive never seen a ricer with one. They do look really cool at night tho

[Justin86]

I have been able to get my car to shot flames with out a kit but it only does it on a back fire, If I were to hook up a spark plug to it I could proably to it on comand.

[cvergi01]

LOL at this whole thread all 6 pages with no result

[netfreak]

ok i will revive this thread as i will be doing this to my car.. heres the deal: 88 honda prelude 2.0si with no cat converter and a straight thru muffler. i figure i have enough unburned fuel to make SOMETHING happen.. i'm gonna put the plug right at the tip of the muffler.

why am i doing this? i'm working on a project called carskiing.com and part of the extra footage DVD we'll be selling is gonna be car stunts and crap like that. this would be perfect.

i'll keep you guys updated, and when i'm done i will have pics and video.

[Justin86]

cool

[AccordArizona89]

LOL ryan Lx-i thats the oldest trick for a huge ass backfire... i raced a crazy ass nova once and he did that to me after he smoked my ass. i was like WTF and he was laughin his head off... i guess it was funny. ive thrown some flames just from downshifting/ i have no caty converter, just strait pipe and exhaust .This thread is a waste of hard drive.

Holy Shit this thread is anceint. this kid is prolly dead by now by a rice hunter

[FoX]

I honestly can't believe this thread is still going. Will he ever get a flame or will he just get flamed. Find out tomorrow on When the Rice Turns.... heheh...

[AccordEpicenter]

with the accord when i was first boosted i could shoot 6-8 in flames out of my exhaust every time i shifted or somthing... just soo god damn rich... i leaned it out a little now and it doesnt do that anymore

[sccrsteve5]

hahahaha....get an RX-7(pretty much any gen) and straight pipe it and see what you have... haha....you've got something you are all trying to achieve. and no the flames can't come back up through the pipe because the flames don't start until they reach oxygen from the tip of the muffler and there isn't much oxygen going to suck back into the exhaust pipe... if you go to rx7club.com there are a bunch of pics and videos of flames shooting out the back. there is one rx-7 that, at one time, could shoot 4 foot flames(it was because of an inappropriate exhaust but it still could happen)

[A20A1]

What about using a pezzio electric igniter from a gas grill... those things make a spark and don't need a battery to do it. May not be strong enough though.

[88accordhb]

i'm stock carb, testpipe and muffler also running very rich and i after fire all the time. it's nothing special. if anything, i'll just get a fatty ticket for not having a cat in california.

[Justin86]

for flamage say no more.......... :D http://keruh.com/3gz/justin86_dyno.mpg

[sccrsteve5]

haha...nice backfire there. backfire is no big thang anymore. i use to be like OMG someone just backfired! but now i could care less. my rx7 backfires fairly often when its still warming up....love it......

[buds302]

that was pretty sweet! i used to own a 1975 toyota corrolla. that thing had an exhaust leak right next to the gas tank. it also had a fuel leak. id be goin down the highway in the dark, step on the clutch and booooom! id look over and a huge fireball went out the side. it was so bad one time it caused a three car pileup, i just kept goin. i also had a nissan pickup with no exhaust whatsoever not even a manifold! it melted the firewall in two days and sent me to the hospital for 3rd degree burns

[88accordhb]

it's not backfire, it's afterfire. there's a difference. just fyi.

[gp02a0083]

dude, steve flames outta the tail of a rx-7 is not soo good , ive been rebuilding liek 3 13b and the next is gonna be a j-spec for my friends 88 rx-7 dude the backfire, or afterfire while the car is running or after the engine runs WOT seriously fucks up the apex seals we got a racening beat hedder and test pipe and cat back system and after i tuned the first two engines he never back fired liek that if anything jsut a lil when first started with the choke on

any way even on a gen 1 rx-7 u shoudl still use like 4 ounces of premix in the take to prevent major wear of the apex seals
as for honda engines i dunno what can happend with that i never rebuilt one like that
all i nkow is alot about gen 2 and 3 rx-7 and G-body american cars ( hope to add hondas to the list too)

[sccrsteve5]

flames aren't bad usually...sometimes i guess they could be, but more than 80% of Rx-7 owners have backfire. i only have it when its cold and the choke on. but with wide open throttle i have no backfire. i've seen pics and videos of ppl flaming at idle with an rx-7 and its no big deal. its just cuz the exhaust piping isn't the correct material and it heats up so it heats up the left over gas in the exhaust and ignites once it hits oxygen...really no big deal. all of my knowledge has to do with 12a's tho so maybe ur right on a 13b.

[Justin86]

yea it might sound cool, but backfire isn't good, it's killing my power and mpg. Afterfire is fun since it's just caused by that extra spark plug and unburnt fuel.

[gp02a0083]

well steve ur right about 80%-90 % of rx-7 owners after fire , and yes ur right about the hedder getting too hot. i really havent looked into the 12b engines that are in the gen 1's but the engine concept is the same for the gen 2's , cuz now i finished the 4th engine ( the j spec) and i added diffrent ring gears (b/c my friend likes reving the shit outaa it and the stock ring gears warp too easily and crack) and i reprogrammed it and "advanced" the spark so that it stops backfireing after warm up , but usually at warm up it aint bad for a 12b or a 13b. but dude lookinto the premixing i def. noticed a diffrence between the second and third engine i built soo mutch less wear on the apex seals ( think of it as a 2-stroke kinda setup) but im not shure if its a good idea on a 12 b engine to premix

[sccrsteve5]

sounds good...i'll research the premix and get back to you about it

[netfreak]

woot picked up a ford ignition coil.. now gotta buy a spark plug and some wiring