ok couldn't find it. bs or bt?

[sedanman]

86 accord lxi
2.0l efi
5 speed.

spark plugs from autozone... for the bs or the bt? i think i remember reading somewhere that my car is a bs but i'm not for sure and i don't want to waste any money or time... please don't flame unless you feel completely necessary. been on this site for about 4 hours today cruising aruond looking for the thread i'm thinking of and can't find it.
any help is awesome
-nick

[Pico]

according to the NGK website you can use
Spark Plug Part No. Stock No. Plug Gap
Standard BPR5ES-11 7634 . 044
V-Power BPR5EY-11 6937 .044
G-Power BPR5EGP 7082 .044
Iridium IX BPR5EIX-11 2115 .044
Looks like for either Bt or Bs

[ghettogeddy]

i believe 86-87 is bt and 88-89 is bs

[Civic Accord Honda]

bs is carb engine bt is efi

[ghettogeddy]

bs is carb engine bt is efi

i thought it was by year i could be wrong lol

[sedanman]

thanks for the replies guys. so mine would be a bt.ugh. bought the wrong plugs. oh well.time to make a ttrip to autozone. lol

-Nick

[Civic Accord Honda]

i thought it was by year i could be wrong lol

on usdm 3gees in 1986 the engine codes were BT for fuel injected engines which were later renamed to the A20A3 and the BS was the carbed engine that was later renamed to the A20A1

[Civic Accord Honda]

thanks for the replies guys. so mine would be a bt.ugh. bought the wrong plugs. oh well.time to make a ttrip to autozone. lol

-Nick

I don't Think there is a difference in plugs that I know of.

[AccordB20A]

classic.... BS = carb, got that right, its buullsshit
/OT

[sedanman]

well according to the autozone in store computer there is a choice between bt and bs and the plugs have different p/n's. the plugs have the same thread length by visual side by side and from any info i could find have the same gap (the internets and hayne's/chilton's have the same gap) but the damned plug wires won't fit over the electrode... the old plugs i pulled were skinnier all around... went from a small plug socket to the larger one but they thread fine in the port and all... new wires? didn't think there would be a difference from carb to efi. but like i said i'm new to the honda game and i know they are "fine-tuned" machina and wasn't sure if there was such a sensitive mixture that the spark would blow out because the threads are the same length but the diode stops about l-l that much. teensy bit.

[itzdave]

umm... i hate to sound like a dumbass here, but, uh, what do you guys mean when it comes to bt / bs...?

[ghettogeddy]

umm... i hate to sound like a dumbass here, but, uh, what do you guys mean when it comes to bt / bs...?

the model number of the block its self i believe

[itzdave]

the model number of the block its self i believe

i thought it was A1, A3, or A4?
wouldnt the spark plugs just have to do with the head and not the block?

[frantik]

bs/bt were the names of the a20a1 and a20a3 in 1986.. that is all

dont see why they would have different spark plugs

[Demon1024]

they dont have different plugs i've put them around on a couple heads.
boy that would suck if they where different. i've got 86-87 heads with 88-89 intakes/exhausts and the plugs from the 88 it came from

[sedanman]

the only difference i can really tell is the plug boots won't fit over the plugs for the bs. the boot is too small in diameter. thread pitch is the same and length and all... but the size of the plug is bigger as far as diamter of the electrode...

-Nick

[ghettogeddy]

so order newer plug wires
new plug wires and newer plugs will fit

[lostforawhile]

the only difference i can really tell is the plug boots won't fit over the plugs for the bs. the boot is too small in diameter. thread pitch is the same and length and all... but the size of the plug is bigger as far as diamter of the electrode...

-Nickthe plug is exactly the same i have the original ngk tech book here and there's no difference .

[sedanman]

well i bought the platinum 2's and i'll tell you right now that the plug is too fat for the wire. maybe NGK is the same because it;s one company and they use one plug for the entire accord app... :O

['A20A3']

i'm running v-powers and they work great

[lostforawhile]

well i bought the platinum 2's and i'll tell you right now that the plug is too fat for the wire. maybe NGK is the same because it;s one company and they use one plug for the entire accord app... :Ojust use the ngk v power plugs, the engine was designed for em,they are the best plug for it. sometimes the new more complicated plugs are overkill for these old engines. i've been running ngk v powers in honda engines since the late eighties, still the best plug for the job. when we got the 98 it was running rough,it had those bosch platnium plugs in it, they were gapped right and everything, wires were good etc. pulled them and put in v powers,and they've been fine ever since.

[MessyHonda]

well i bought the platinum 2's and i'll tell you right now that the plug is too fat for the wire. maybe NGK is the same because it;s one company and they use one plug for the entire accord app... :O



yeah i ran the platinum 4s and they were a waste of money

[sedanman]

yeah fours are the same as twos in my experience... but i went and traded in the plugs for the ngk v power's... got home and it turns out they are the same part number that was listed on the hood and the plug wires are still too small for the electrode. and before someone else says buy new wires, i already did. they are on back order until the 14th-ish and will be shipped. taylor wires 8MM...

while i'm on the subject, do any companies make a plug-n-play performance dist.? just wondering...

-Nick

[ghettogeddy]

yeah fours are the same as twos in my experience... but i went and traded in the plugs for the ngk v power's... got home and it turns out they are the same part number that was listed on the hood and the plug wires are still too small for the electrode. and before someone else says buy new wires, i already did. they are on back order until the 14th-ish and will be shipped. taylor wires 8MM...

while i'm on the subject, do any companies make a plug-n-play performance dist.? just wondering...

-Nick

no

but you can change the coil to a blaster 2 coil and get a msd box in there

[sedanman]

no

but you can change the coil to a blaster 2 coil and get a msd box in there



i thank you. :D

-nick

[lostforawhile]

exactly what do you mean the plugs are too big? i have never ran into this problem before,with any plug or wire. and i've been doing this since the eighties

[cubert]

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o61/d16z6broncoII/saabsparkplug.jpg


Does the plug have the piece on it that the arrow is pointing at?


I havnt owned a 3g in forever..so I cant remember..but do the plug wires need those pieces to fit? If not that part unscrews using a pair of pliers :dunno:

[russiankid]

Yes they need it.

[lostforawhile]

where are you getting your plug wires? i have a set i took off my car,they have low mileage on them, they were from nappa so they are belden, excellent quality wires, i went to an accell custom set now,but if you want them i'll sell them to you cheap. and they fit the ngk plugs fine. are you pushing the connector out far enough to engage the ends of the plugs? i believe you are having some sort of problem,but i've never heard of this before. the ends of the boots are flexible, they should go right over the plug ends,

[lostforawhile]

listen, you can twist the wires from behind the boot until the electrode is out of the boot, snap the electrode over the end of the plug, now get some grease for the boots from the auto parts store, it's a real item, it stops the boot from heat seizing to the plug, put some of this on the end of the plug, now slide the boot back over the plug, it's silicone dielectric grease, the guy at the auto pars store whill know what it is.

[sedanman]

i know about dielectric grease, and i know how most wire ends are but these ends are solid. you want proof... lol give me your addy and i'll ship you one when my taylor's get here. i have never seen solid boot ends either, and i'm not a complete mechanic noob. remember, my other car is an escort, my tools are far from rusty. ;)

-nick

[lostforawhile]

i know about dielectric grease, and i know how most wire ends are but these ends are solid. you want proof... lol give me your addy and i'll ship you one when my taylor's get here. i have never seen solid boot ends either, and i'm not a complete mechanic noob. remember, my other car is an escort, my tools are far from rusty. ;)

-nickyea i want to see these and ouch on the escort :stick:

[sedanman]

i will agree on most aspects, ouch on the escort. but two things
1.my escort is faster than the accord as of now. be it modified or not. ha.
2.the hayne's for my scort doesn't call for removing the driver side drive axle to replace the alternator...

lol

okay. well if you want one go ahead and PM me your addy and i'll shoot you one of the plug wires. out of my cannon. ha. my taylor's should be here either tomorrow or monday. woo.

-nick