HIDS for the accord.

[mushroom_toy]

Well after having one of my silverstars burn out, then having one of my hellas start leaking...i put the stock shitty halogens back in....and I need more light. Im probably gonna pick up some HIDS on Monday to go in my Hella Ecodes. Question is what color do yall think i should go with? I was gonna go with Golden Yellow which is 3000k at first but now im thinking 4300-6000k.
What do yall think?

[russiankid]

4500.

[84Accord]

8k is the max id run imo. im using 8ks and i like em. my ecodes should be here by monday.

[ZackieDarko]

I think you should go with the kind that retrofits true HID projectors into the H4 housings. Unless your already have that done of course.

Instead of blinding every driver that comes your way.

[mushroom_toy]

I think you should go with the kind that retrofits true HID projectors into the H4 housings. Unless your already have that done of course.

Instead of blinding every driver that comes your way.

If you dont know ecodes have a cutoff.

[mushroom_toy]

4500.

This is probably what im going with. :)


I cant stand 7k or higher...i hate colored lights besides yellow.

[Rendon LX-i]

6,000 comes in alot of factory cars. i ran 8,000 for the longest time...was to much blue so i went to 6,000 HOLLY SHIT man it was crisp and i have the autopal housing...clean cutoff and was pretty easy to setup.......if you need more info i snap some pics of the setup and the cutoff.....i have phillaps 6,000's i wouldnt go higher or lower...thats prefect...i had 10,000 also that was a mistake...

[Rendon LX-i]

i forgot to metion that 6k is white and from far far awhile a hint of blue....i agreed thou...4,500 would work well also shroom

[ZackieDarko]

If you dont know ecodes have a cutoff.



i was unaware..that is good to know though

i have the hella H4 housings do you have a link to a place where i can see the ecodes?

[mushroom_toy]

Heres a few of my pics of the ecodes, they have a sharp cutoff when used with HIDS, so when angled properly theyre pretty good.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/JubeiMunchCurry/More%20Car/DSC07928.jpg

You can see the cutoff line in the image below:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/JubeiMunchCurry/More%20Car/DSC07929.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/JubeiMunchCurry/More%20Car/DSC07933.jpg

[mushroom_toy]

Think im goping with the 5ks.

[russiankid]

I have 55watt 5000k in my BMW.

[3gmodifier]

so far i have boughten 7 sets of H.I.D.'s from the same seller. great product. 3 of them were the ultra slim digital setup for the smaller hidden applications. i run the 6000k in my coupe and 8000k on my bike. i would honestly recomend 4500k-6000k. 3000k is fricken awesome in my fogs because they burn yellow and my len's are yellow. i tried 5000k but the super bright white through the yellow lense was too much. also, i get them on ebay from the same seller. the slim version is $102.** shipped to your door. the regular version is around $60 ish to your door.

[Rendon LX-i]

yeah i told him the same...6000k is perfect well for me anyhow ill have to post some shots....

[bobafett]

4300k FTW! assuming you want the best light output and not the coolest looking headlights. :)

6000k also looks great, but you are giving up lumens for anything with a higher temperature than 4300k.

[Rendon LX-i]

True. I just my buddys setup was white im like perfect...kinda like stock...and bright as hell. Chris youll see at the meet

[Civic Accord Honda]

watever yellow is :D

[carotman]

Ok, let me be honest with all of you guys, HIDs in standard DOT reflectors suck! The cutoff pattern on standard reflectors isn't made for HIDs and will blind every other driver. The Only way to do it perfectly is to retrofit projectors that were specifically made for the HID lamp focal point.

Also anything above 6000K is plain stupidity. The BEST thing you can get as far as light output is 4300k. The higher you go, the bluer it gets and the less light output you get. Not only will you blind others but you won't see shit.

Some people will say they aim the lights lower not to blind people but what's the point of having brighter headlights if you only point them 15 feet away..

However, E-code lights have a way better cutoff that the DOT standard. The E-code will that a sharp cutoff with a flare on the right side (or left side, depending of where you live). If you plan to use an H4 HID kit, at least do what mushroom toy did and use E-Code lamps.

[mushroom_toy]

Alrigthy got 5k single xenon, hopefully will have pics soon.

[Hash_man_Se_i]

Where did you guys get your e-code housings from? I need to order myself a set as I've got some HID's coming for cheap, and I need the housings.

I am personally going 4300k hi/lo ... But 5k should be really good too. i have had friends with 8k and 10k and they were absolutely useless. My vision sucks enough at night as is, I need to help it not make it worse.

[84Accord]

Where did you guys get your e-code housings from? I need to order myself a set as I've got some HID's coming for cheap, and I need the housings.

I am personally going 4300k hi/lo ... But 5k should be really good too. i have had friends with 8k and 10k and they were absolutely useless. My vision sucks enough at night as is, I need to help it not make it worse.

i just got mine from http://www.rallylights.com/
they have an amazon listing for 34 a piece whereas their site says 46. so if you call em and say you saw the ad on amazon theyd give you the 34.

edit: amazon listing:
http://www.amazon.com/Hella-165mm-Rectangular-Headlamp-Rubber/dp/B000E0E03E

[Rendon LX-i]

heres my new setup...Autopals e-codes...should say same shit as hella...Awesome cut off as you can see the 6k is white and i just shot a couple pics....from on, to warming up and fully warmed up.

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww290/Rendonlxi/101_1401.jpg
http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww290/Rendonlxi/101_1397.jpg
http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww290/Rendonlxi/101_1399.jpg
http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww290/Rendonlxi/101_1400.jpg

I used to have the ebay projecto syle bull....once i went to these i was like JESUS lol.....what a difference and i get that cut off i never had before...instead of a blurr...PLUS i dont have people flashing me HAHA...but i just wanted to show you guys...SORRY SHROOM for whoring your thread buddy

Rendon

[mushroom_toy]

Nah its cool. Hopefully ill get some pics tomorrow/tomorrow night.

[Hash_man_Se_i]

i just got mine from http://www.rallylights.com/
they have an amazon listing for 34 a piece whereas their site says 46. so if you call em and say you saw the ad on amazon theyd give you the 34.

edit: amazon listing:
http://www.amazon.com/Hella-165mm-Rectangular-Headlamp-Rubber/dp/B000E0E03E

Cool, thanks for the info, sorry to whore up thread, but arent our headlights the 200mm version?

[84Accord]

Cool, thanks for the info, sorry to whore up thread, but arent our headlights the 200mm version?

ooo yea i think you are right. but rallylights.com has the 200mm's

[mushroom_toy]

Not the best place to take a pic, and not level but heres the best pic I could get tonight.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/JubeiMunchCurry/More%20Car/IMGP4196.jpg

[Pico]

Nice.
Where did you order your HID's from?

[carotman]

Hmmm it's hard to tell from that picture but the cutoff line doesn't even seem to exist :(

Maybe it's the exposure time that's too long.

[mushroom_toy]

Got the HIDS from Dynamic sound In Norcross. For importatlanta members they were $65 for single and $100 for bixenon on sale this week. :) PLus theyre slim ballast which are tiny, Ill get pics of the ballast and everything next time I take the bumper off. I should have the other day but oh well lol.

[mushroom_toy]

Hmmm it's hard to tell from that picture but the cutoff line doesn't even seem to exist :(

Maybe it's the exposure time that's too long.

The cutoff is there, Ill have to take better pics. What I did notice however was that my ecodes front reflector is very dull and not shiny anymore so i need to coat it with something.

[86AccordLxi]

I'm glad you live on the other side of the country -- nothing I hate *more* than HIDs in h4 housings.

And your cutoff does seem to be lacking. Glary HIDs are awful for everyone else.

[carotman]

I'll take a picture of by BOSCH housings, it has a very sharp cutoff (with regular halogen bulbs)

[86AccordLxi]

I have hella e-codes in my 240 with just hte Hella optilux bulbs and the cutoff is very nice (but overwhelmed by HIDs, clearly).

Cibie h4 housings are supposed to be the best, but they're much more expensive than hella or bosch.

[russiankid]

I think you're going to blind people. Can't beat real projectors.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e58/russian03rustler/525i/S6301954.jpg

[mushroom_toy]

Havent been flashed past two nights. They are angled right so they do not blind. Plus like I said if you actually look at the picture youll see how close to the wall I am and that the lot goes uphill. I love all the bashers keep on going. :)

[russiankid]

About 2feet from a wall.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e58/russian03rustler/Right.jpg

[Civic Accord Honda]

I'm glad you live on the other side of the country -- nothing I hate *more* than HIDs in h4 housings.

And your cutoff does seem to be lacking. Glary HIDs are awful for everyone else.

this is why im just getting yellow h4 bulbs

[86AccordLxi]

Havent been flashed past two nights. They are angled right so they do not blind. Plus like I said if you actually look at the picture youll see how close to the wall I am and that the lot goes uphill. I love all the bashers keep on going. :)

:rolleyes:

"I'm a danger to others on the road but I'm too cool for school!"

Yes, we know your car is uber-l33t, bro.

I'm not hating just because I don't like you, I'm hating because you're a traffic hazard. I have the same bullshit arguments with my dumb friends who put HID in hella housings -- unsafe and horrible cuttoffs.

[Rendon LX-i]

true...mines seem to have a better cutoff...not much a blurr...since the bulb itself has a glar shield...so from far away it didnt hurt my eyes....but maybe someday ill have to get the real projecters that already made for are cars...which cost 400 lol...

[russiankid]

Your left light is higher than your right.

[86AccordLxi]

http://clearcorners.com/products/002/

http://zilvia.net/f/1675222-post51.html

http://zilvia.net/f/1677584-post71.html

http://zilvia.net/f/1679076-post76.html


ixfxi owns clearcorners. This guy is no bullshit, has no agenda, just tells it like it is. Good reading material.

[Rendon LX-i]

ITS all in the blub i think....

[russiankid]

Its not in the bulb. The reflector inside plays one of key rolls in the output of the light pattern.

[Hazwan]

http://clearcorners.com/products/002/

http://zilvia.net/f/1675222-post51.html

http://zilvia.net/f/1677584-post71.html

http://zilvia.net/f/1679076-post76.html


ixfxi owns clearcorners. This guy is no bullshit, has no agenda, just tells it like it is. Good reading material.

This post should be stickied or put in FAQ or something.

Mushroom, I <3 your car, but that beam pattern is horrible :(

[fijisac]

well i want to get HID's for my car, i did buy these projector light and i like them. i got them from ebay and so far they work great, i will try to get a pic of them and here is the link for the healights
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PROJECTOR-HEADLIGHT-79-91-HONDA-PRELUDE-86-89-ACCORD-H4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1171Q7c66Q3a2Q 7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a0Q7c293Q3a 2Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem3 50150550767QQitemZ350150550767QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5f TruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

[Rendon LX-i]

o hell no^^^.. work for awhile,,,,,an they start to leak....an so fake dont even work.....i can tell u that because...i had mine for 4 yrs.....not worth it. get hella housing

[84Accord]

well i want to get HID's for my car, i did buy these projector light and i like them. i got them from ebay and so far they work great, i will try to get a pic of them and here is the link for the healights
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PROJECTOR-HEADLIGHT-79-91-HONDA-PRELUDE-86-89-ACCORD-H4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1171Q7c66Q3a2Q 7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a0Q7c293Q3a 2Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem3 50150550767QQitemZ350150550767QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5f TruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories


o hell no^^^.. work for awhile,,,,,an they start to leak....an so fake dont even work.....i can tell u that because...i had mine for 4 yrs.....not worth it. get hella housing

lol i bought those exact ones. no cutoff at all and weak housings. after mine started to leak it cracked the glass. which made me get the ecodes

[Rendon LX-i]

llol....i was FLAWNESS a cracked housing for a good 3 years...a fish could live in there HAHA

[mushroom_toy]

Lets keep on going.

[86AccordLxi]

Ignorance is bliss, right?

[mushroom_toy]

^No actually people like you make this more enjoyable though.

[86AccordLxi]

People like me? Smart people? Logical people? People with facts on their side? lolol

It's all pretty straightforward.

[mushroom_toy]

People like me? Smart people? Logical people? People with facts on their side? lolol

It's all pretty straightforward.

People like you. To put it bluntly assholes in every way.

[86AccordLxi]

oh lawlz.

Namecalling. Totally unexpected.

Listen, you're the one with the brokedick mods that are just a nuisance and danger to others. I just want to make sure other people here know the facts about lighting and know of viable, cheaper options that don't make them a pain in the ass on the road.

You're doing it wrong. I want to make sure other people do it right. It's all about edification.

[mushroom_toy]

oh lawlz.

Namecalling. Totally unexpected.

Listen, you're the one with the brokedick mods that are just a nuisance and danger to others. I just want to make sure other people here know the facts about lighting and know of viable, cheaper options that don't make them a pain in the ass on the road.

You're doing it wrong. I want to make sure other people do it right. It's all about edification.

Brokedick mods lol name them mr. smooth. The only thing you like to do is nitpick and be a douchebag to me seemingly. I have no beef with you so drop your shit attitude and start acting like a person, not a dog.

[86AccordLxi]

I am acting like a person -- a person who is pointing out that this is NOT the best (or even a good) option for sealed beam conversions. This is my biggest automotive pet peeve and more education/knowledge is clearly necessary. I highly suggest you read the links I posted, they're very useful.

[mushroom_toy]

I am acting like a person -- a person who is pointing out that this is NOT the best (or even a good) option for sealed beam conversions. This is my biggest automotive pet peeve and more education/knowledge is clearly necessary. I highly suggest you read the links I posted, they're very useful.

Alright well you have made your point. My set up is not completely done, and the picture was not the best to begin with. My car is set up how I choose to set it up whether anyone likes it or not. Thats how it will stay. Thanks for your opinion.

[turabaka]

Has anyone else ever noticed that one of the most common places for forum board fights in is HID threads?

[russiankid]

Who gets 35 watt HID's anyways?:cheers:

[cdscowboy]

It's been a while since I've been here, but it looks like business as usual...just enough knowledge to get into trouble.

I went through the HID retro on my 240 a while back, and I'll never be happy with sealed beams again...or even H4 conversion housings!

That being said, I know there's a right way to do conversions and many wrong ways. The right way is to get an actual HID projector, 35w(!) 4300k bulbs, ignitors, ballasts, and if you need to, some TOTALLY CLEAR (high quality) GLASS conversion housings. Anything other than completely clear (fresneled, ribbed, etc) lenses will scatter your beam all over. Even better if you can put it in a stock headlight assembly that has clear lenses, just 'cause it looks cleaner.

Bottom line is, if you're not using HID SPECIFIC PROJECTORS, don't expect to not be blinding people as you're driving down the road with your "HID" kit.

Those H4 conversions are great for H4, and make a substantial difference. Those Hella Ecodes look pretty dang good, but they're not designed for HID. I had PIAA Xtreme Whites in my 89 LXi, and they were pretty awesome. But there's definitely a difference between an H4 housing and an HID projector, plain and simple.