Mark's 89 Hatch Build Thread

[markmdz89hatch]

Ok guys, so I don't have 9 million pics like some others do, and I've had this car for 10 years now, and have built it, broken it down, and rebuilt it a few times, but that was all with sound system, and looks. Now it's time to lift the hood and really get this underway.

So here's some pics from last summer fall when I started tearing it down, to where it is now. Followed by some pics of the plans for it.

Yanked the stock carby and manifold. Checking the angle for production of a proper manifold:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/DSC00736.jpg

Mock-up for the new induction:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/IMG00088.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/IMG00089.jpg

Mock-up done, now it's time to start tearing it all apart:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/whatthe.jpg

Cat-power FTW!
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/1catpower.jpg

Just a reminder of what the front end use to look like with the custom clear corners and custom clear bumper lenses:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/clearcorner_1.jpg

Re-assembly of the P&P'd head I bought off Messy:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/Picture006.jpg

New production manny is now available for the A20's with the proper angle:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/A20A%20dcoe%20manny/RXS_2245.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/A20A%20dcoe%20manny/RXS_2243.jpg

Vacuum Setup I threw together. This is just to show what it's all about:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/DCOE/vaccan001.jpg


I had a problem with the d/s front lower ball-joint, so I had to cut the tip of the bolt off and was not able to get the nut back on so I can lower the knuckle into the LCA and get a wheel/tire on it. This past Monday night I attacked the bad cut with a file and was able to thread the nut on and get the wheel/tire on, so now (after 6+ months) I can take it off the jack-stands and roll it out into the driveway to keep working on it instead of in the cramped garage.

Plenty more to come little by little.

[markmdz89hatch]

Started cleaning up the engine bay this past Sunday night:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/3G003.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/3G002.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/3G001.jpg

[2ndGenGuy]

Yeah Mark this is what I'm talking about. Get going on this, can't wait to see it done! :D

[2oodoor]

good start on this by documenting your progress some!
reminds me I need to get some vids up of mine:cool:


edit, I have a gf down here that is from your area and it could mean a visit sometime this summer!!

[BITESIZE]

I remember your car from day 1.

[Civic Accord Honda]

hell yeah about time u made a build thread!

[markmdz89hatch]

I remember your car from day 1.

haha, yeah it's been a while hasn't it. ...and if you remember it from day one (in it's glory), you know how much it sucks to see it like this. ...but in due time she'll come back to her former glory.

[Tdurr]

pics of said former glory

[Hazwan]

Nice work. Can't wait to hear it running!

[Rendon LX-i]

Nice...going to be a fast mechine..

[RobT5580]

It feels like the last time i saw your car was the Wicham Park Meet LOL......I have a few pictures of your car i can email to you if you want them send me your email.

Glad to see your working on it. Let me know if you need a hand perhaps mysef and Steve can come up to your house and give a hand.

[AccordB20A]

lol cat power!!!!!

looks good, nice work will be good to see this one running too!!

[blazin3gen]

omg FINALLY!!! lol

[w261w261]

Wow!

[guaynabo89]

woo-woooo

Loving the sidedrafts. What cam specs you going to run?


Get ir done! Im giving you a time table to have it running...........2 weeks! :D

[Dr_Snooz]

Good stuff Mark! This will be awesome.

[87roach]

Ahh those carbs make me wet :O I sent you a pm but got a DB error a couple times so I don't know if you got it.. I will send another later if I don't hear back.

Ah yea it's about time you got a thread going(a little more of a booster heh)!

[markmdz89hatch]

pics of said former glory

workin on that right now man. Soon enough.

[Pico]

Amazing work Mark, glad to see you getting the car back in all its glory

[mushroom_toy]

Oh shit running sidedrafts...very nice. :)

[MessyHonda]

one day il go check out your car if im ever in the area

[markmdz89hatch]

went to the junkyard this weekend, and scored some goodies for what should be a nice lil treat....

....now how do I plug up the dizzy end of the head... ...hmmm....

Any ideas?

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/MJ/EDIS4.jpg

[2ndGenGuy]

OH HAI crank trigger wheel, coil pack control unit, and pickup. Do I smell some megajolt coming? Oh yes!

Chris capped his A20 distributor hole somehow, I don't remember what he used though.

[Nafs Asdf]

Just a thought, wouldn't it be easy for the guy making the obd1 adapter plates to make a block-off plate for it?

[markmdz89hatch]

...and that's a very good thought. Where would I find said guy?

I was looking at the stock dizzy, and wonder if I might have to just gut on and stuff it on there only because it's got the bearing built into it, and has that spade that fits on the end of the cam.

If something could be made that mimic's the end of the dizzy, that would be sweet.

[Nafs Asdf]

...and that's a very good thought. Where would I find said guy?

I was looking at the stock dizzy, and wonder if I might have to just gut on and stuff it on there only because it's got the bearing built into it, and has that spade that fits on the end of the cam.

If something could be made that mimic's the end of the dizzy, that would be sweet.

In here: http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62521&page=26

cygnus x-1 was the guy I think.

[markmdz89hatch]

ah cygnus, yeah, word has it he's actually building his car to run the full MegaJolt/MegaSquirt setup. The Squirt has no place in a carb'd car though. I'll look him up and see what he did. Thanks for that link.

[Civic Accord Honda]

oh snap! hellz yeah!!

[MessyHonda]

i think you can use a b serries cam cap on our motors....i know eagle makes some

http://www.goldeneaglemfg.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=76_96&products_id=160

[LX-incredible]

...and that's a very good thought. Where would I find said guy?

I was looking at the stock dizzy, and wonder if I might have to just gut on and stuff it on there only because it's got the bearing built into it, and has that spade that fits on the end of the cam.

If something could be made that mimic's the end of the dizzy, that would be sweet.

To attach the trigger wheel to? The bearing in the distributor doesn't bear the load of the cam.

[markmdz89hatch]

i think you can use a b serries cam cap on our motors....i know eagle makes some

http://www.goldeneaglemfg.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=76_96&products_id=160

Jesse, thanks for that link. Hell, for the $24, I might as well try it right.


To attach the trigger wheel to? The bearing in the distributor doesn't bear the load of the cam.

Not for the trigger wheel. The trigger wheel attaches to the crank pulley, which, along with the rest of this system, is what will drive the ignition system now. This system uses timing from the crank rather than the cam. This is a 'distributorless' system, so there is no longer any need for the dizzy, so I can essentially just plug that end, but what I'm still a bit in the dark about is the function of the dizzy to keep the cam from walking. I know it doesn't bear any vertical load, but I'm only assuming it does maintain a bit of lateral load in keeping the cam from walking. ...I say that only because without the dizzy, I don't see anything stopping the cam from trying to walk toward where the dizzy was. I know I'm repeating myself in this response, but I'm not sure if I'm being really clear about my concern. Hopefully someone will get what I'm trying to say.

[Rendon LX-i]

Umms sounds like a plan...

[88LXi68]

I think you are over thinking this.

the cam is still bolted to the cam gear...it shouldn't move

[markmdz89hatch]

I think you are over thinking this.

the cam is still bolted to the cam gear...it shouldn't move

...and this is a surprise to you?

[2ndGenGuy]

I think the real question then, is what keeps the cam from walking out towards the cam gear? I don't think the cam will move, but I'm not sure I understand what holds it in place either.

[Nafs Asdf]

I think the real question then, is what keeps the cam from walking out towards the cam gear? I don't think the cam will move, but I'm not sure I understand what holds it in place either.
Is there something in the distributor that holds it on place then? I'd think that would make it pretty hard to take the dizzy off..

[markmdz89hatch]

Is there something in the distributor that holds it on place then? I'd think that would make it pretty hard to take the dizzy off..

Here's an image I scabbed off an ebay auction:
(Note the 'plug' that goes into the head is a two-step, the 1st (larger diameter) is acting as the seal, and the 2nd is somewhat of a cam-button with those two spade lugs that fit into a slot at the end of the cam (what makes the dizzy spin). What I'm wondering is if there's a need to just plug the head to take the place of the 1st step, or if I'll need a plug to mimic both 'steps'.

Does that make any sense?

http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/40000225/Images/92/49264__1.jpg

[LX-incredible]

Not for the trigger wheel. The trigger wheel attaches to the crank pulley, which, along with the rest of this system, is what will drive the ignition system now. This system uses timing from the crank rather than the cam. This is a 'distributorless' system, so there is no longer any need for the dizzy, so I can essentially just plug that end, but what I'm still a bit in the dark about is the function of the dizzy to keep the cam from walking. I know it doesn't bear any vertical load, but I'm only assuming it does maintain a bit of lateral load in keeping the cam from walking. ...I say that only because without the dizzy, I don't see anything stopping the cam from trying to walk toward where the dizzy was. I know I'm repeating myself in this response, but I'm not sure if I'm being really clear about my concern. Hopefully someone will get what I'm trying to say.

The cam will walk the same with or without the distributor. The key doesn't sit all the way in against it. The cam is centered by a ring that rides in a groove in the end cam cap.

[markmdz89hatch]

The cam will walk the same with or without the distributor. The key doesn't sit all the way in against it. The cam is centered by a ring that rides in a groove in the end cam cap.

and that is the answer I was looking for. OK, now I just need that plug that messy linked (or something similar). Thanks man.

[markmdz89hatch]

more goodies:

Cam:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/parts/3Gparts009.jpg

Fuel pump and Filter:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/parts/3Gparts010.jpg

Adjustable Cam Gear:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/parts/3Gparts005.jpg

Steering wheel with quick release hub:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/parts/3Gparts004.jpg

Clutch:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/parts/3Gparts017.jpg

Custom Stooooopid heavy-duty ACT Pressure Plate: (I know it's not pretty, but it'll definitely get the job done.)
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/parts/3Gparts015.jpg

New AGM Battery: (Paying for this sucked ass.)
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/parts/3Gparts014.jpg

Decisions decisions: (which cover to go with) (PS> Thanks John.)
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/parts/3Gparts002.jpg

And finally...
Anyone been around here long enough to remember these: (Not a big deal at all, but we were all over 'em like stink on poop when a member was making them.) The short shifter, I'm not sure if I'm going to use or not. Prolly not though.
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/parts/3Gparts006.jpg

That's all I got for now. ...more to come fo' sho'.

[mykwikcoupe]

ok ive been around here a while and I cannot think of a place to use those. What r they for

[markmdz89hatch]

ok ive been around here a while and I cannot think of a place to use those. What r they for

oh c'mon Mike. Those are the little rain shields someone made for the H4 headlight conversions because the kits back in the day were notorious for leaking. This kept the water out of them.

[mykwikcoupe]

no way really?

[Civic Accord Honda]

fuck yah thats awesome

and 2g valve cover FTW

[Tdurr]

sickness. wut cam is it?

[2ndGenGuy]

Lovin' the toys man. Now you just gotta get em installed!

[87roach]

Good stuff man, nice to see your collection finally(well bits of it). Is that a regular battery or no?

[Rendon LX-i]

OOOO...i remember those...FUCK i want a set...LOL...

[MessyHonda]

what stage cam did you go with

[markmdz89hatch]

Lovin' the toys man. Now you just gotta get em installed!

Riiiiiiight. So you gonna fly over from WA to help out? I have no idea what the hell I'm doing, so it'll be a 'learn as you go' on this one.


Good stuff man, nice to see your collection finally(well bits of it). Is that a regular battery or no?

shhh.... Yes, you of all people know all-too-well that I 'forgot' to put a few pics up. In time they'll surface though. For the battery, no it's no normal battery. That's a sealed AGM (absorbed glass-mat) battery which allows me to install it at pretty much any angle/position, but the main reason in getting it was for safety (in case I roll the car [hopefully will never happen]) but more-so for space and weight savings. This thing is tiny, and although a lead brick, it's less than half the weight of the stocker. But this all comes at a price of about $180. Shit that hurt. Link to more than you'll ever want to know about batteries: http://www.batterystuff.com/tutorial_battery.html#3



OOOO...i remember those...FUCK i want a set...LOL...

I think I can whip up a set. I have a friend with a metal brake, and can just duplicate these, but I think using aluminum would be a better alternative to this zinc-plated sheet for rust/corrosion resistance. Let me know if you want me to do it.


what stage cam did you go with

Don't quote me on this, but it's supposedly a 272 (which is only a mild/mid grind, nothing crazy as I don't want something like a 295 screwing with my idle while I'm trying to tune the carbs). I have yet to even open the box, so I'll mic it up as soon as I open it just to check everything, then I'll confirm the 272.

[2ndGenGuy]

Riiiiiiight. So you gonna fly over from WA to help out? I have no idea what the hell I'm doing, so it'll be a 'learn as you go' on this one.

Buy me a ticket out there, and I'll be there. :rockon:

[markmdz89hatch]

Buy me a ticket out there, and I'll be there. :rockon:

hmm... ...'best I could find was about $260 round trip, which is not too too bad. hmm...

[2ndGenGuy]

Get your stuff ready, your shop clean, and give me a date, and I'll take a couple days off! Make it 4 days of kicking-ass and building!

[markmdz89hatch]

my shop? The fucking garage is just barely big enough for the car. Hell, last time I had to get into the car to start yanking the dash, I opened the side door to the garage just so I could open the car door enough to sneak into the car. Climbing out the window was much easier on the exit.

Why in the hell they built my garage so damn small is beyond me. Especially considering the damn thing was built in '52 when cars were the size of army tanks.

I seriously might just fly your ass out here if for no reason other than to help tune the carbs. Hell a local shop around here was willing to do it for me, but they get $85/hr for regular shop time, and more than that for tuning, so it would end up costing me the same if not more anyway. ...decisions decisions...

[2ndGenGuy]

Uh I don't know if you want to put me on the spot tuning carbs like that. I don't REALLY know what I'm doing! LOL. I can bring my wideband O2 setup, if they don't take it from me at the airport. That would help. I'm sure I could figure those things out though, assuming you have all the jets we need. :)

[88LXi68]

Buy me a ticket out there, and I'll be there. :rockon:

he wouldn't be the first 3geez member flying another member out to work on their car!

[markmdz89hatch]

he wouldn't be the first 3geez member flying another member out to work on their car!

haha, and on that note John wouldn't be the first 3geez member helping me out in getting my car running. (Thx Steve)

[MessyHonda]

i cant wait to see it running

[Hauntd ca3]

x2 eh
those side draughts will sound mega eh!
awesome work dude, kick ass

[speedpenguin]

This is very cool. Hoping for more updates (Subscribed).

[markmdz89hatch]

mo updates....

Not much, but here's some pics of this weekends' progress.

Pushed her out of the garage, and first thing I did was yank the fenders so I could get at more of the soon-to-be-useless parts in there.

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/2018.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/2018.jpg


Upon getting the fenders off, I found an antique mouse nest. Based on the contents of the nest, this was from when my grandmother had it (she's the first, and only previous owner of this hatchie).

From this hole:

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/2009.jpg


I got this: (It seemed like the endless pile of shit that was caked in there.)

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/2012.jpg


After that little excursion, I took aim on the dash. After about 40 minutes of wrestling with it, while my son (only 2.5 yrs old) was 'helping' it looked like this:

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/2019.jpg


...what came out... ...and will not be going back in: (minus the hammer. the boy dropped it in the 'trash pile' as he went for another tool I'm bound to find rusted up after sitting outside in some obscure hiding place in a few weeks.)

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/2004.jpg


...after all that junk was out, I was free to do a bit of an interior wire-tuck (not really, I just zip-tied the entire harness up and out of the way just in case it's to be used again in another lifetime). Snug as a bug in a rug.

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/2011.jpg


So she's no beauty queen anymore, but I already have one replacement panel, and need to get the drivers side now, and have them grafted on, but here's how she sits (bare in mind there is nothing in the front, so the back is a teenie bit lower than it will end up sitting.)

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/2010.jpg
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/2015.jpg

[markmdz89hatch]

...and just some never before seen shots of the interior that I did back in '01. Any thoughts? No clue how I got a red tint on the headliner pic, but you get the idea. Still need to decide if I'm going to swap the back seats and hatch area back to burgundy or swap the dash and front seats/door panels to the black. Decisions decisions.

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/2016.jpg
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/2005.jpg
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/2014.jpg

Back seat, black interior.
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/2003.jpg

..oh and yes, for the first time in my 3geez history, I'm a pic whore. Deal with it.

[2ndGenGuy]

About time you became a pic whore! Keep it up, we love the progress! Headliner and door panels look good! And good work getting rid of the mouse nest! Little bastards love Hondas!!!

[Civic Accord Honda]

awesome ! and put black seats up front :D

[87roach]

Ahh yes progress!!! Love it Mark, glad to see your making way.

Grr at those mice, grrrrr.

I'm a fan of black myself, perhaps because I had my time with the burgundy.

[speedpenguin]

I'd say black too, but only if you swap the rest of the interior to match. Black and burgundy and white is going to be an odd combination.

[Tomisimo]

I like your work Mark, but I think SEi interior would be best.. but its just me

[markmdz89hatch]

I like your work Mark, but I think SEi interior would be best.. but its just me

You got one you want to send me? I'm 90% sure the Aerodeck interior will fit.

[A18A]

i want those wheels :)

[Hazwan]

Black all the way. And please, keep posting pics!

[Tomisimo]

You got one you want to send me? I'm 90% sure the Aerodeck interior will fit.

I'm actually have an Aerodeck here at local JY, 2 owner, clean Black interior, no tear and wear, good dash with only one double tape thingee that is not there anymore. with good rear seats and EDM center console and even with original extra "front fog" switch. I can take some picks for you when I get back there for alternator I'm trying to take out. Were thinking about you when I saw it, I believe you wanted A20a4 pistons? I was thinking if I take down crossmember and engine support, oil pan and crank, I can just pull pistons out without engine being out of car...

[2ndGenGuy]

If you do black, Mark, you'll have the same interior as everybody else on the forum who swapped to black. It's nice, no doubt about it, but it doesn't have that funky charm of a mint red or blue interior. :D

[markmdz89hatch]

If you do black, Mark, you'll have the same interior as everybody else on the forum who swapped to black. It's nice, no doubt about it, but it doesn't have that funky charm of a mint red or blue interior. :D

I do agree with you a bit on this John, but instead of the SE-i black interior with the leather, and power everything, this is from the less extravagant, but much more rare Phoenix Red '88 DX Hatch (although turbanaka [or something like that] has that damn hatch already), or in some cases, the Phoenix Red '89 DX Coupe.

Then again, as you said, no one else has actually embraced the idea of the maroon except for Dennis and Pete (peteandjenn) from what I know of. And honestly I do think the maroon on salt&pepper grey looks damn good. ...but I'm not sure how well that maroon will work with some of the secret projects I have yet to post any pics of.

Progress: I dropped the head off at the machine shop today to get inspected for what I suspect is a crack, but is hopefully just a casting seam. I'll be damn pissed if it's a crack because I bought a fresh P&P'd head from another member, and it was packed terribly when it was shipped to me, and the 'cracks' (hopefully casting seam voids) were EXTREMELY obvious the minute I got it out of the box.

...ok, anyway, due to the shitty packing, the head is back in to the shop to get pressure checked, hot-tanked and fully cleaned, and milled to get rid of nicks from shipping. Fingers crossed on this one.

A friend of mine and I will be honing out the cylinders this weekend too.

After I get the head back, it'll get a fresh coat of paint, get it's valves, seals, springs, retainers, and reground cam slapped in it. The block will also catch a fresh coat of paint, and be ready to make good friends with the head. Then it'll all find its way onto the cherry picker and snugly between the wheel wells.

[w261w261]

How do you remember where everything goes???

[markmdz89hatch]

How do you remember where everything goes???

uhmm..... ....I don't. Honestly.

[Civic Accord Honda]

probably the same way i do.. if it fits it goes there if not it doesn't :D

[markmdz89hatch]

How do we feel about my new (to me) seats? I know I'm gonna get heat from some ppl about how '80's they look, but let's think about it... What years are our cars? At the end of the day, I think the colors better match the completely monochrome look I'm going for, and the shape/style of the seats (IMO) suits the angles of the car. For the price, I couldn't go wrong. I will reupholster them one day and replace the light grey/silver with an 'almost white', but for now, I'll just hit 'em with the Bissell green machine to get them as clean as possible.

Anyone know what they came out of? ...oh and $30 for the pair, so it was a bargain in my book. The drivers seat has a tilting seat pan adjustment, lumbar adjustment, and bolster adjustment (ie. They can be opened/closed depending on how fat you are or how tightly you want to be held in place.)

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_0267.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_0268.jpg

[2ndGenGuy]

I love how 80s they look man! Do eeet!!! I kinda wanna say AW11 MR2, but not 100% sure....

[headbanger]

I like em sharp lookin seats ort2 look great in ur ride

[Joay]

I love how 80s they look man! Do eeet!!! I kinda wanna say AW11 MR2, but not 100% sure....
Yup, them's the ones. Never seen them in two-tone however.
You got the right idea though man, OG 80s swag is what's up.

[markmdz89hatch]

ok here's the weekends progress report:

1. Those seats will look good if I could ever get the little bastards into the car. I fear though that I may have to scrap the idea of using them and just sell them. The damn friggin sliders/brackets are welded to the seatpan and the outer bracket is actually part of the structure of the seat (ie. it extends up and has the pivot pin for the seatback). Who does that? Dammit.

2. My old power rack has been removed, and the new de-powered (or manualized) rack has been installed along with new tie-rod ends. Now that should have only taken about an hour to swap out, but no thanks to the faaking passenger side tie-rod end that refused to come off (I broke my arm puller, then resorted to the pickle fork. Still no luck. So I broke out the real ball-joint separator tool, and just about ruined that too. Nope still stuck). So I resorted to just unscrewing the tie-rod from the end and pulling off the entire fooking knuckle and swapping it out with another spare knuckle I had in my parts pile.

What I'm pissed about is that because of that, I had to use my new tie-rod ends which I was not going to use until I replaced everything on the knuckles. (ie. lower ball joints, and wheel bearings). So now i'll just have to be VERY gentle when I attempt to remove these. Oh how nice would it be if I could just keep the car on jack-stands and not have to worry about getting wheels back on it every time and pushing it back into the garage every night. What a pain in the balls.

[Civic Accord Honda]

oh man i hope you can get the seats to fit!! they will look so damn good

[Tomisimo]

Welcome to my world Mark, I spend 3 days taking one ball joint on drivers side, with multiple tools and methods. almost broke my arm. But I hear you on thing sitting tight on our 20yr cars.
S*cks about seats, I'd really loved to see those in your car, those looks just nice and complement 80's. It newer would look goofy. As for wheels, cant you just leave car outside on stands? its not like someone would come with wheels to steal it. Just cover it up and hide tools in your garage as I do.

[markmdz89hatch]

Welcome to my world Mark, I spend 3 days taking one ball joint on drivers side, with multiple tools and methods. almost broke my arm. But I hear you on thing sitting tight on our 20yr cars.
S*cks about seats, I'd really loved to see those in your car, those looks just nice and complement 80's. It newer would look goofy. As for wheels, cant you just leave car outside on stands? its not like someone would come with wheels to steal it. Just cover it up and hide tools in your garage as I do.

You're obviously not married with kids. lol. Nah man, my wife would castrate me if I told her I was just gonna leave it in the driveway up on jackstands. It's bad enough I have my old pickup just sitting next to my garage with 4 flat tires.

Oh well, I don't mind knowing she's locked up in the garage when I leave for work, and that it's not going to have to worry about rain, cats sleeping on it, and the wife bumping into it by accident with her overgrown suv.

[2ndGenGuy]

You're not working on it in the garage?

[88LXi68]

It's bad enough I have my old pickup just sitting next to my garage with 4 flat tires.


you still have that paper weight?!?!

[markmdz89hatch]

You're not working on it in the garage?

Nope. If you saw my garage you'd understand. What I don't get is that my house was built in '52. In the late 40's or early 50's, cars were generally huge. I know for a fact (yes I did try) that if you tried to park my dad's '56 Dodge in the garage, yes you can drive in, and shut the garage door, but you can't open the car door to get out. ...and if you could crawl through the window, you better crawl out the passenger window so you can get out because you're only shutting the garage door if you bump the back wall and nick the bumper with the door.

Long and short of it is that the damn thing is just slightly larger than a shoe-box.


you still have that paper weight?!?!

Yep. I need to get it running well again, then on craigslist it goes. Been holding onto it mainly because it's a pretty uncommon (don't wanna call it rare) Desert Runner package. (ie. factory 3" lift, bucket seats, two-tone paint scheme, twin-tube rear bumper, etc.)

[Civic Accord Honda]

pics of said truck!

[markmdz89hatch]

pics of said truck!

took 'em the other day just for you Blaker... (don't mind the jungle that's swallowing the truck because I haven't moved it in a year)

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/D21/IMG_0402.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/D21/IMG_0401.jpg

Sorry guys, back on topic

[88LXi68]

wow...jungle is understatement

[markmdz89hatch]

yeah I woke up one morning and was like WTF... JUMANJI in my driveway

[88LXi68]

yeah I woke up one morning and was like WTF... JUMANJI in my driveway


BAHAHAHAHA!!! love that movie

[2ndGenGuy]

HAhaha! I LOL'd at that one too.

[markmdz89hatch]

ok, made a lil progress the past few nights....

Head is now fully assembled, I just need to finish up with all the valve adjustments. (I am not 100% pleased with the way the head went together, but we'll see what happens.)

Block just got a fresh coat of paint, new freeze plugs, and a cylinder hone tonight. Tomorrow I pick up a new oil pump and I'll hopefully get the new rings on the pistons, then get the pistons/rods/crank/all bearings installed on the bottom end.

Then maybe Friday night I'll be able to bolt up the head and tranny to the motor. It's a real long-shot, but I'm fighting an uphill battle to get it done. ...uphill or not, I'm still not giving up hope.

[88LXi68]

jumanji was on tv last night...it was as good as I remembered

[markmdz89hatch]

jumanji was on tv last night...it was as good as I remembered

It's got Kirsten Dunst before anyone knew who she was.

As you saw this weekend though, the Jumanji jungle has been 'slightly' trimmed back from the truck. That's it though, the truck now has a name: Jumanji.

...So a damn faaking MOTH flew onto the block and landed right in the wet friggin paint, the proceeded to drag its powdery self all over the damn place. ...it's been removed and the blems painted over, but what a ball buster.

['A20A3']

i like the seats Mark.

the truck is sweet.

fuck a moth!

and i might acutally have the front strut forks from my 88 still sitting in my garage somewhere, still on my old struts.

i'll check it out after work and get back with that info tonight.

[88LXi68]

It's got Kirsten Dunst before anyone knew who she was.

dude...she was like 12. only people that would care would be pedophiles!

[markmdz89hatch]

dude...she was like 12. only people that would care would be pedophiles!

ok, you're right she was young. (here's my disclaimer on that pedo statement: I looked her up on imdb at one point and saw she was in Jumanji. ...was like 'huh, didn't know that'. And for some reason that tid-bit of worthless info stuck.)

Just like looking up Hayden PanaQW$%$% (dunno) on imdb yielded info that she was the annoying tot in Remember the Titans. Didn't know that. Another 'huh, no shit'.

Ok, onto the car.... (dammit Steve)

I'm hoping to pick up the Oil Pump tonight (Autozone couldn't find one of the 3 they said they had in stock last night). Will get that installed, scrape the block free of any gasket remnants, pull the crank, rods, and pistons from another block and get them in.

I gotta pick up a new torque wrench tonight too. Mine doesn't seem to be 'clicking' when it gets to torque.

[2ndGenGuy]

Dude Hayden PanaQW$%$% is like 16... looking her up on IMDB... yeah for the background on her acting history... LOL! ;)

[markmdz89hatch]

Dude Hayden PanaQW$%$% is like 16... looking her up on IMDB... yeah for the background on her acting history... LOL! ;)

Just looked her up again. She's 20. Dammit. I look up everyone on movies/shows/etc I see. ...not just to find out if a chic is legal you punk.

[2ndGenGuy]

Just looked her up again. She's 20. Dammit. I look up everyone on movies/shows/etc I see. ...not just to find out if a chic is legal you punk.

:kekeke:

Not that I would blame ya, she is hot...

[Civic Accord Honda]

:kekeke:

Not that I would blame ya, she is hot...

WORD!

and that truck looks baller get it back on the road nao1! :thumbup:

[Rendon LX-i]

K i need a pic of who you guys talking bout lol

[Civic Accord Honda]

K i need a pic of who you guys talking bout lol

http://images.google.com/images?q=hayden%20panettiere&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi

[MessyHonda]

yup she is cute

[Rendon LX-i]

............

[Civic Accord Honda]

............

Translation : "fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap"
:lol:

[carotman]

Pannetiere is a french Canadian name BTW :p

[markmdz89hatch]

mo progress....

....stayed out in the garage 'til about 3am this morning turning wrenches. Motor is assembled for the most part finally...

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_0441.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_0440.jpg

[2oodoor]

I would get some cheap duct tape and string it out on those open holes, myself I get the dropsies sometimes and freak out about the mouseholes and where did that nut or bolt disappear to:)

[markmdz89hatch]

oh yeah, hitting up Boater's World and a lawnmower repair place in the next few days to see if I can find some grommet's to plug up all the holes. I HATE mice in my car.

[2ndGenGuy]

Awesome dude!!! Glad to really see the progress moving along!!! That shit looks CLEAN!

[Tdurr]

um... i dono if u know this but ur motor is facing the wrong way.

:P

[Civic Accord Honda]

he needs to rotate it 180*!

[88LXi68]

looks good mark!

[russiankid]

Are you going to get this thing done for the meet?

[Tomisimo]

Wow, nice, finally the engine in one piece :)
Mark, why most of guys even you, dont paint the head?
And I cant wait to see it in the car with all goodies you were thinking to install :D

[markmdz89hatch]

um... i dono if u know this but ur motor is facing the wrong way.
:P

Shit! I knew something wasn't fitting quite right.


Are you going to get this thing done for the meet?

:banghead: <-- That's what I do on a daily basis thinking about this build.

The honest answer is I'm trying, and working on it almost every night. That engine pic was taken at about 7:30am as I was leaving for work. I had finally decided to call it a night at about 3:00am that same morning, so I can get at least 3hrs of sleep. Last night I didn't get home until about 11 and was dead tired so I had to admit defeat on the night. Tonight though, I intend to pull another all-nighter, and will be requesting a half-day tomorrow so I can get home early and get to work on it. :dunno:


Wow, nice, finally the engine in one piece :)
Mark, why most of guys even you, dont paint the head?
And I cant wait to see it in the car with all goodies you were thinking to install :D

It is painted. The block is painted high-temp gloss black, and the head is high-temp aluminum paint.

I can confirm without any question of doubt that the MegaJolt system WILL NOT be going in before the meet. I just can't afford to buy the box right now, so that will have to wait. It will just have a stock dizzy for now. Honestly as much as I've talked about this thing, it's basically a bone-stock motor right now. The only slight upgrade is the head. The bottom end still has crappy A1 (PK4) pistons, stock crank, and stock rods. It's just hopefully a refreshed motor.

[2oodoor]

I was talking about the ports on the head, both sides. tape them up while your working around them so you dont drop someting in there dude

[markmdz89hatch]

sadly I think I'll even be choking her with a stock exhaust because funding and time has basically run out. ...but we shall see.

[markmdz89hatch]

I was talking about the ports on the head, both sides. tape them up while your working around them so you dont drop someting in there dude

hehe, oops sorry Guy. Yeah that would make sense for me to do that. I'll do that as soon as I get home tonight and continue working on this P.O.S.

[Civic Accord Honda]

Getrdon!

[russiankid]

Man if you weren't so far away I'd drive out and help you.

[88LXi68]

Man if you weren't so far away I'd drive out and help you.


good luck getting through his hard head :)

[Rendon LX-i]

Nice mark.....cant wait to see that a20 fire up....hows the build? just a stock rebuild? i forgot LOL

[A18A]

he needs to rotate it 180*!

lol thats the eexact same thing i thought

[AccordB20A]

lol. looking lovely!

[markmdz89hatch]

Nice mark.....cant wait to see that a20 fire up....hows the build? just a stock rebuild? i forgot LOL

yes, pretty much just a stock rebuild. still low compression, no fancy rods, pistons, crank work. Stock valvetrain. Just a mild cam grind and a little port-matching on the head for the most part. Just want to get it back in and running that's all.

[markmdz89hatch]

Right, so a little progress report.

The engine in as of last night. Tranny/clutch, intake manifold, and other various bits still need to be bolted up though.

I just walked back to my desk from the kitchen here at work and something just went wrong in my back. I think it's just muscular as I've been nursing it for a few weeks now, but right now it's really uncomfortable. I'll pop a few Tylenol or Ibuprofen and see if it lets off a little. Either way, the show must go on, so tonight I'm going to try to get teh tranny and clutch in, and maybe even the axles, knuckles, forks, etc.

So to the few of you that knew my plan on getting the motor in by shear brute force (aka. slide the engine and tree off the stand and carry it over to the car, and turn/lower it in place.) and tried to convince me otherwise can now say "I told you so you dumbass".

Overall it went fairly smoothly and without much complication. But man is that faacker heavy.

[russiankid]

Right, so a little progress report.

The engine in as of last night. Tranny/clutch, intake manifold, and other various bits still need to be bolted up though.

I just walked back to my desk from the kitchen here at work and something just went wrong in my back. I think it's just muscular as I've been nursing it for a few weeks now, but right now it's really uncomfortable. I'll pop a few Tylenol or Ibuprofen and see if it lets off a little. Either way, the show must go on, so tonight I'm going to try to get teh tranny and clutch in, and maybe even the axles, knuckles, forks, etc.

So to the few of you that knew my plan on getting the motor in by shear brute force (aka. slide the engine and tree off the stand and carry it over to the car, and turn/lower it in place.) and tried to convince me otherwise can now say "I told you so you dumbass".

Overall it went fairly smoothly and without much complication. But man is that faacker heavy.

:burn::banghead: I can do a clutch job in about 4 hours plus or minus 30 minutes. I could knock out all of that in a few hours.

[markmdz89hatch]

:burn::banghead: I can do a clutch job in about 4 hours plus or minus 30 minutes. I could knock out all of that in a few hours.

Yeah me too. ..and that's just what I intend to do.

[2ndGenGuy]

Wait you lifted the engine by yourself? With the head on it? Jesus man! I've put an engine in before by lifting it in, but it had no head on it and there were two of us! :-o

[markmdz89hatch]

Wait you lifted the engine by yourself? With the head on it? Jesus man! I've put an engine in before by lifting it in, but it had no head on it and there were two of us! :-o

yes, exactly as you see it in that pic. the tree on the stand included. I just pulled the pin off the back of the tree, and slid it out of the stand. Slow and steady. Not trying to be a hero, or pretend I'm hercules... ...just trying to get this thing done.

[2oodoor]

floor jacks and scrap pieces of boards, stick it right in there no lifting it

nice to see big time progress here!! take care of that back dude, those issues are no fun at tall I promise ya that

[88LXi68]

"I told you so you dumbass".


that is all

[Vinny]

that is all


yuppyupp

[guaynabo89]

Mark better whatch out or you'll pull your anus! Then you'll be in a whole world o hurt. lol


Oh when you get it running for the meet.....make sure you take a detour down 95 to come visit. :-P

[markmdz89hatch]

Mark better whatch out or you'll pull your anus! Then you'll be in a whole world o hurt. lol


Oh when you get it running for the meet.....make sure you take a detour down 95 to come visit. :-P

Well I'm happy to report the hole of my bum is fully intact thank you very much. hahahaha.

Alright, well a little progress report:

There's just about NO CHANCE this thing will be ready in time. There's just WAY too much left that needs to be done in order to just get this damn thing running, let alone being road worthy and picture worthy.

What a fugghin mess I've gotten myself into. Buh. I love my kids to death but I dare anyone to try to get work done while a 3 and 5 year old are let loose while you have your car in 9 million pieces and damn near the same amount of tools as well. :rant:

Ok, so the progress....

Quite simply.. ....NOT ENOUGH. :violin:

Maybe I'll snap a few pics of the progress tomorrow morning so I can get flamed by everyone for not being ready for the meet next weekend.

All I know is I pulled a page out of a 'driving an old Chevy', because I had to mount the fuel pump and filter damn near on the back bumper as it was the only place the frikken thing would fit.

[guaynabo89]

I love my kids to death but I dare anyone to try to get work done while a 3 and 5 year old are let loose while you have your car in 9 million pieces and damn near the same amount of tools as well. :rant:




HAve to wait till there sleep duh. :kekeke:


I feel you though. Mine are usually tring to kill each other. lol

[Rendon LX-i]

DAMN.......watch yourself mark..going to blow your hole out lol

[markmdz89hatch]

HAve to wait till there sleep duh. :kekeke:


I feel you though. Mine are usually tring to kill each other. lol


Yeah if they were trying to kill each other they at least wouldn't be asking 'what (else) can I do to help' or 'what's this do' or 'daddy, look at this' or 'can you help me with this' or ..... you get the idea.

Yeah, been doing the wait 'til they're asleep thing too (in fact, as soon as I hit submit on this message, I'm going back out there after having just put them both to bed and grabbed a quick snack), but it's starting to wear on me. Been doing this for like the past 4 out of 6 nights, and stayed out there 'til 2 at the earliest, 3:30 at the latest. Sucks when you have to be up for work at 5:45 every morning though.

Oh well, I'm off to work. Catch up tomorrow morning.

[2ndGenGuy]

It really is a ton of work... Keep it up Mark, you'll have it done in no time!

[88LXi68]

Yeah if they were trying to kill each other they at least wouldn't be asking 'what (else) can I do to help' or 'what's this do' or 'daddy, look at this' or 'can you help me with this' or ..... you get the idea.


you forgot the "daddy, why doesn't you car have an engine?"

[guaynabo89]

lol

Wait until you have kids and they ask you why your car is always broken! lol

[russiankid]

Mark Mark Mark Mark...sigh.

[markmdz89hatch]

damn you Sam. damn you... I'm working on it!

[Vinny]

lol

Wait until you have kids and they ask you why your car is always broken! lol

Or friends that come over for years and ask "are you sure that thing runs" :D

Wish you could make it up for this one D.


you forgot the "daddy, why doesn't you car have an engine?"

How bout "Daddy dont they make something to lift the engine in and out of the car?

[russiankid]

Work faster.

[2ndGenGuy]

Why don't one of you guys go help him!!! :D I'd go help if it wasn't a week long drive.

[russiankid]

Its a 4hour trip for me.

[2oodoor]

I admire your diligence Mark, on the project. Keep up on the goal oriented mindset. It helps to write them down and redo the list every other day when you realize more of the details along the way.
Something else that helps too is try not to add too many extras not related to functionality ,reliability and safety. Some os those really slow your progress down, but I do admit they tend to be things that keep the project fun. :chainsaw::cheers:

[mykwikcoupe]

lmao at the puns guys. Ive got a 16 month old and 5 year old and I think shes says all those once a week. She has a workbench next to mine and as long as I keep it occupied with stuff to sort or pond on shes set. if I fall behind the mouth opens and its all down hill from there. She loves walking around the garage picking up screws and small things that fall off my overloaded workspaces.

Keep at it mark Im sure youll see the light one day. I saw mine at 330 ion the morning after rebiulding the trans with a flashlight in my driveway. I still didnt make the meet. Havent touched it since either. Go figure.

[Tdurr]

Work faster.

:werd:

[markmdz89hatch]

yeah I'm the "work hard not smart" guy on this project.

Ok, so here's the deal (yeah, still no pics):

Engine and tranny are in. I'm waiting on an emergency order of a piece of my carb linkage, which should get here either today or tomorrow. Then the linkage goes on, and the carbs get mounted up to the head.

The front knuckles have been dropped off just this morning to get new wheel bearings and ball joints pressed into them. I found the adjustable rear upper control arms that I've been tearing the garage apart trying to look for. When I jacked the ass end of the car up, low and behold, there they were. Already nice and comfy in place of the stock arms. When the hell did I put those on? :dunno:

The stock fuel pump has been gutted from the fuel neck and a longer piece of tube added so it gets to the bottom of the tank. Then I literally wasted about 4 hours trying to figure out where and how to mount up the new fuel pump and filters. Both are huge, and both are external. I ended up having to fabricate a bracket for the fuel pump because there was no way it was going on with just the stock mounting plate.

Just last night I picked up a 5 foot length of steel 3/8 tubing, a double-flaring tool, and about 12 ft of 3/8 hose so I can plumb everything in all nicey-nice.

Last night it was fuggin pouring out so I had to resort to a shop light hanging from the "oh-shit" handle and a hand-held flashlight to finish getting the dash all together. Dash is back in, wiring is all finished up inside the car (except for the ignition switch), and the steering column has been re-attached.

So, the shortened to-do list:

Finish plumbing for the fuel delivery
Figure out what the hell to do with the exhaust
Install and (slightly) tune carbs (although I have no idea what I'm doing there)
Install new battery
Re-install fuse box
Put the engine harness back on
Install Alternator

Hope to God my rad is still good

fill up on all fluids, do a little praying, and turn the key (or maybe push the button) to try and start it.

I've never done an engine tear-down or rebuild before, and had no one who's done this before to look over my shoulder and either slap me in the head for doing something wrong, or help me through some of it, so you're guess is as good as mine as to whether or not it'll actually work.

Oh, then finally wash 'da bitch. She's dirrrrrrrrty.

[2oodoor]

great list now put them in hiearchial order, for example installing the alternator would come before the battery, sparky.. lol
sounds like you do not have much more to do really, cool

[markmdz89hatch]

great list now put them in hiearchial order, for example installing the alternator would come before the battery, sparky.. lol
sounds like you do not have much more to do really, cool

Except the fuel line plumbing could take hours and hours to get right. Bending up the hard lines and flaring the ends is a real bitch to do and do right. I've been holding off on the alternator because I would rather have as much room as possible when installing the carbs, then doing the other add-on's later, but we'll just see.

Oh, forgot about the dizzy too. That's gotta go back on too.

Last.... ...anyone have any recommendations on plugging up the EGR and other (don't remember what it's for) fittings on the stock carb manny?

[russiankid]

Before you fire her up, prime the oil system!!!!


Looking at the list, you're almost there man! you have 3 more days and nights go get this done. Tuning the carbs...well you can do that on the way down here.


As far as plugging the manifold, get a bolt that would fit. Or, get the stock pipe for it, crimp one end and seal it up.

[2oodoor]

you can mount the alternator, wire it up and so forth then take out the slack adjuster bolt and allow the alt to swing back toward the firewall safe and snug out of the way. Then once you are done in the intake manifold area you can swing it back around, install the belt and slack bolt. The alt can stay on the main pivot bolt the entire time, just leave it a wee loose so it can swing.

[b20a86lude]

i thought u were trying to do a fr at first when i saw this pik lol.
nice bra hatchy horaoka look a like
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_0440.jpg

[markmdz89hatch]

alright, well here's the shitty pics...

I got all the plumbing done last night. Hours spent under the back bumper of the car, and a lot of tinkering with the bender and double-flare tool. I'm pretty happy with the way it came out, but I'm sure I'll end up redoing it at some point because there are a few bends I'm not entirely happy with, but this will do for now. I tried to do the whole run (from the back bumper to the tank) with one length of pipe, but there was no way in hell it would work. I ended up with two pieces. The pics show the simpler piece. It really got interesting, with compound bends, with the piece that goes around the wheel well.

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_0442.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_0444.jpg

Engine is in (but I still need to finish up the wiring harness and plug all the fittings on the water pipe).... (yeah and sorry, the tranny is damn dirty, I just don't have the time to blast the casing and get it sparkly clean at the moment. ...in time in time)

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_0452.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_0453.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_0454.jpg

Interior is still dirty as hell, and the floor mats need to come out. I need to replace a few pieces, and get the center console on, but all-in-all, she's almost done inside.

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_0451.jpg

As she sits right now. This pic was taken as I left for work this morning. Don't mind the house that desperately needs a power washing and paint. This ought to piss off the wife and neighbors because the ass end is 3 feet in the air.

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_0449.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_0450.jpg

[Hazwan]

Yay!

[guaynabo89]

Looks good to me :)


Keep it up.

You still got the stock carbs Mark or you doing something else?

[markmdz89hatch]

Looks good to me :)


Keep it up.

You still got the stock carbs Mark or you doing something else?

dunno. ...but I'm pretty sure the stock carb would drown in fuel with the new fuel pump I got there. That beast puts out about 100 gph at 3-4 psi.

[Joay]

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_0453.jpg
Win.

[JFern]

nice job on that fuel plumbing, your hatch is coming together! looks good :)

oh and is that a prolong sticker i see? i hope you don't use that stuff in your car, it ruins motors (thats why they went under awhile back cuz of all the warranties) we stopped selling it at my work years ago

[russiankid]

Good job Mark. You're almost there.

[markmdz89hatch]

nice job on that fuel plumbing, your hatch is coming together! looks good :)

oh and is that a prolong sticker i see? i hope you don't use that stuff in your car, it ruins motors (thats why they went under awhile back cuz of all the warranties) we stopped selling it at my work years ago

well yeah, I did use it, but only once. That was easily 9+ years ago though. No trouble at all with anything. Not that I noticed any difference, or that I even knew what the hell I was doing then.

I'm just too lazy to peel off the sticker now. One day I'll get to it.

[2ndGenGuy]

Yayayyaay! Nice working Mark!!! It's coming together as a car again! YAY! You are ALMOST there!

[JFern]

well yeah, I did use it, but only once. That was easily 9+ years ago though. No trouble at all with anything. Not that I noticed any difference, or that I even knew what the hell I was doing then.

I'm just too lazy to peel off the sticker now. One day I'll get to it.

Good (i know how that is) ^_^ Glad to see a nice hatch coming together keep it up!

[2drSE-i]

psh, is anyones car ever really finished? lookin good mark!

[guaynabo89]

So Mark.....you got some sidedrafts for that thing?

I'm sorry if uve posted up the info.

[markmdz89hatch]

Good (i know how that is) ^_^ Glad to see a nice hatch coming together keep it up!

What sucks is this is coming *back* together. I was a VERY nice, very clean, rust, dent, scratch, smell (damn mice) free hatch and she even got a fresh new coat of Pure White GM paint back in '01. Now she's beaten down by years of neglect.

The rear suspension:

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_0447.jpg

You can hardly make it out now through all the rust, corrosion and spiderwebs, but those knuckles, control arms and Brembo rotors used to be painted nicely. Every single bushing, nut, bolt, washer, seal, etc was replaced with new when I did the rear disc swap. The BFG SS lines were nice and bright red. Now this is what it's deteriorated to. It'll get back to it's glory days.

[markmdz89hatch]

So Mark.....you got some sidedrafts for that thing?

I'm sorry if uve posted up the info.

Yes sir. This is a mock up I did last year with my old manifold.

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/IMG00089.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/IMG00087.jpg

[JFern]

ya i meant "back together". it reminds me of when i bought mine except yours has a bunch of cool stuff in it and mine just sat for two years rotting in the street and now im trying to save it ^_^ i have seen many pictures and posts of your car and read a lot about it and its quite nice, don't be fooled by my lack of posts and recent joining of the forum.... i have been stalking all of you for years *maniacal laughing* .... ... ... anyways..... thats a nice rear disc setup and those sidedrafts are.... how do they put it? the sex? haha anyways im jealous of you car and im glad to see its progress

[guaynabo89]

oooooh nice!


40,44's?

[russiankid]

You need some shiny rotors...like mine used to be.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e58/russian03rustler/Rear%20disc%20brakes/DSCF0003-1.jpg

[markmdz89hatch]

45's. Yeah Sam my rear rotors (actually Dennis' old rotors) used to look like that too.

[russiankid]

Mine don't look like that anymore. The contact surface is shiny, but the rest are rusted. However, I don't care as they outperform drums :).

[guaynabo89]

you got my old rotors?

I thought I sold those to Site?


Www.hondaautomotiveparts sells the speedo cable for I think 30 bucks, or you looking for something cheaper?

[markmdz89hatch]

you got my old rotors?

I thought I sold those to Site?


Www.hondaautomotiveparts sells the speedo cable for I think 30 bucks, or you looking for something cheaper?

Yes sir. That would be me. ...or wait, maybe I got the fronts from you. ...yeah I think that's it. Front with Axxis metal masters right? ...shit, or was it the rear? idk. either way I did get some Brembo set from you.

[guaynabo89]

I think it might have been the rears now that I think about it. I don't think Site did a re ar disk conversion.

Yeah Brembos cadium plated. If I remember right I wasn't going to split them unless I had buyers for front n rear.



Anyway whos tuning these carbs for you. :D

[Civic Accord Honda]

looks great mark!

[markmdz89hatch]

AHHHHHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHA

The beast is ALIVE!

Don't all rush out and ask for vids or pics, or anything as it's running like shit and still needs a new throttle cable. The carbs need to be sync'd. The jetting needs to be sorted out. The water temp gauge and sending unit needs to be connected (oops). I need to put an analog oil temp gauge in, and analog water temp gauge because both scare the bejesus out of me. Timing needs to be straightened out. Vacuum for the dizzy needs to be sorted. ..and it needs an exhaust at least past the downpipe (LOUD AS FAAK right now). Yeah, so there's still a laundry list of things that need to be done, but she did turn over, and was able to hold an idle. The cam is so lopey the entire car was shuddering, but she held a steady idle. The clutch cable pisses me off too, so I'll need to find a shorter cable that has the same ends on both the tranny and pedal assembly. Once she gets a few more minutes of running time at temp, the head bolts will need to be re-torqued too. I need to figure out something for the air cleaner/air box/anything better than open horns too.

[Vinny]

Soooooooo what was wrong with it? How far off were we on what we thought needed to be done.

TELL TELL

[Tomisimo]

Hi there Mark, congrats on sturtup, looks good, finally long time and wait paid off.. Now get that beast rawr and haul with those quad carbs lol..

Anyhow, if you like I can send you EDM center console with speedo cable you wanted.. I\m parting my Gray car, there is almost nothing of it left. So if you need somthin, just tell me now before it goes to scrappy by the end of this week.

[guaynabo89]

ok so you gonna drive it down? :D

[2ndGenGuy]

w00t! Congrats Mark!!! Glad to hear that she is running!!! Keep up the good work...

Also... PICSS!!! VIDEOSS!!! :D :D hehe

[markmdz89hatch]

I know you can't really see anything in the pics, but I like the pics, and I just took them last night.

As she sits right now...

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_0464.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_0465.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_0467.jpg

[carotman]

Need another wiper arm? :)

[2oodoor]

wow and aura!
yay! keep watch on those fumes and warrant fire safety

[2ndGenGuy]

Mark! It's beautiful! Brings a tear to my eye. It's heavenly!

[gtmst3]

congrads!!

[Civic Accord Honda]

Need another wiper arm? :)
uni wiper ftmfw :rockon:

Mark! It's beautiful! Brings a tear to my eye. It's heavenly!

X2!

[Tomisimo]

You guys dont get this, but MONO wiper are the 80s, I even know where he got the idea from, ever heared of Opel Manta ot Opel GT? those were styled with Mono wiper.. Cool stuff
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/Braunschweig20199520B2001.jpg

[markmdz89hatch]

Oh Tom you know you just wanted to post up your buddy's Manta (aka. cavalier~anta) with the uni. ...and you are also one of the few people that know I had 3 Opel GT's at one point too.

No, honestly when I first did it, it was already something that was seen as kinda outdated (I did it in '99), but I kept it anyway. Now it's just kinda something that I do to keep the memories of it alive. ...oh and to piss off Steve because I know how much he loves seeing it.

edit... and after looking at that pic AGAIN Tom, I say you snag that bumper from his car when he's not looking and see just how close of a fit it is on your 3G. I'll bet it's damn close just by looking at it.

[Tomisimo]

hahaha lol, Well we have descussed that with my friend already even tried it on, its to long on the sides and is shalow in front, it will take a good portion of fiberglass and molding cutting and stuff to make it fit.. Sadly I dont have a pic of this, but it looked really nice indeed, from one angle when you didnt see gaps.

Ouh and that lip is rare as fakk, its almost impossible to find. And original that style bumper was made of Cevlar as those round headlamps frames and Manta400 bonnet. The lip was plastic or as they call lip here CatKiller..
edit: Cavaleir was a Kadet front with Mant ass.. :D

[guaynabo89]

ok

lets rephrase this......How about some CLEAR pics and videos.

lol


I actually saw another car with the uniwiper here in FL about a month ago during one of our heavy summer downpours. Needless to say it wasnt working out to well for that person. lol


I want to hear those carbs underl load. They must sound so nice.

[SZfiftyfour]

Looks really good Mark, Im lovin the wheels :thumbup:

I'm still a big fan of the "uni-wiper", the 80's isuzu impulse's had them stock. I had an 89 and thought it was one of the coolest things about the car, other than the turbo and Rwd.

[markmdz89hatch]

Looks really good Mark, Im lovin the wheels :thumbup:

I'm still a big fan of the "uni-wiper", the 80's isuzu impulse's had them stock. I had an 89 and thought it was one of the coolest things about the car, other than the turbo and Rwd.

You like the wheels? Gee that's funny because I'm thinking 'bout selling them. :deal:

I'd LOVE to get my hands on an Impluse one of these days. A friend of mine had one and dayum did it seem like it would be a fun car.



OK guys... ...time for a few mini vids.... ...sorry for them being so damn huge, but I tried to convert them down to mpeg and the damn 'trial version' of the converter software I downloaded only gives me 60% of each vid which blows.

Tried to start it:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/started%20vids/th_MVI_0710.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/started%20vids/?action=view&current=MVI_0710.flv)

It started with the help of a little throttle:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/started%20vids/th_MVI_0712.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/started%20vids/?action=view&current=MVI_0712.flv)

[Tomisimo]

heheheii n ice, Thats it lol. Sounds great, dos it dont have catback yet? kinda loud but it dos sounds meaty :D
Mark, when I get back to my propper windows and set it up after this crash I had, I can send you a propper DivX-Pro program, with all codes and stuff over AIM, just give it few days.. When I moved.

[markmdz89hatch]

Yeah Tom, that exhaust currently ends at the B-pipe. The entire cat-back (including the cat) is still missing from it. Hopefully I'll get some time to hang the stock exhaust this weekend. The custom 2.25" will have to wait until I replenish my '3G fund', which could take damn near forever at this pace. Oh well, it's a work in progress anyway. haha.

[MessyHonda]

wow nice vids....nice to see that head works

[Tomisimo]

As long as its going farword Mark.. I know how it is aspessually in our situations.. I have to think to weld me new exhaust.. That cheap type I have on my car now makes farting sounds at 3.5k RPMs or under the load on low end.. really hate that..But we'll see, now that I'm going to welding school again, will have that opportunity.

[markmdz89hatch]

wow nice vids....nice to see that head works

yeah, what a mess that ended up. There were two valves with stress cracks and pitting on the necks, the thing was all caked up with aluminum shavings from the porting job, it had to be milled because it was hanging out of the box when it showed up on my doorstep. Two or three of the valve guides were cracked due to that head being the victim of a snapped t-belt and many bent valves. The head had to be pressure checked because of the casting voids that were exposed from the porting and not filled (so much that a fingernail could easily 'catch' the voids). All in all, I ended up having to dump over $250 more into it, but the good news is that it seems to be holding up well enough from just the startup. Hopefully the bottom end hold together too because this was my first complete engine rebuild and I had no clue what the hell I was doing during the whole process.

At the end of the day, I have no regrets about this entire build. Even if it blows up tomorrow, I learned so much from what to look for with porting/polishing jobs, how to disassemble and reassemble every last little nook and cranny of the head, and the entire bottom end tear-down and assembly too. No regrets. Just a great learning process.

[guaynabo89]

Hey I still got my tubing from my old exhaust. There's no muffler but you could have it.

Its 2.25 mandrel bent.

Its an pacesetter exhaust with a resonator I had put in. I think it has the cat flange

[Civic Accord Honda]

god that sounds so awesome Mark.
I have a great idea! you should trade me your accord for my civic :lol:

[markmdz89hatch]

Hey I still got my tubing from my old exhaust. There's no muffler but you could have it.

Its 2.25 mandrel bent.

Its an pacesetter exhaust with a resonator I had put in. I think it has the cat flange

Sold! I'll gladly take that off your hands. ...but are you willing to ship it? I'll also gladly pay you something for it too. If it's PaceSetter, it's aluminized piping right? Let me know. I already have a muffler and a cherry-bomb I was going to put in place of the stock resonator. My muffler is a MagnaFlow SS universal 2.25" Offset/Center, and I have a twin square-tip rolled edge tailpipe to slap on the end of that.

[guaynabo89]

you could have it for free if you pay shipping. I can take some pictures for you or you can see it in person maybe to make sure its what you need.

[MessyHonda]

yeah, what a mess that ended up. There were two valves with stress cracks and pitting on the necks, the thing was all caked up with aluminum shavings from the porting job, it had to be milled because it was hanging out of the box when it showed up on my doorstep. Two or three of the valve guides were cracked due to that head being the victim of a snapped t-belt and many bent valves. The head had to be pressure checked because of the casting voids that were exposed from the porting and not filled (so much that a fingernail could easily 'catch' the voids). All in all, I ended up having to dump over $250 more into it, but the good news is that it seems to be holding up well enough from just the startup. Hopefully the bottom end hold together too because this was my first complete engine rebuild and I had no clue what the hell I was doing during the whole process.

At the end of the day, I have no regrets about this entire build. Even if it blows up tomorrow, I learned so much from what to look for with porting/polishing jobs, how to disassemble and reassemble every last little nook and cranny of the head, and the entire bottom end tear-down and assembly too. No regrets. Just a great learning process.
wow that sucks...sorry to hear that...good thing i just didnt slap it on...i said i would once i put on my headers but i never did

[87roach]

Wow, I go away for a couple weeks... and lo' and behold. PROGRESS!

Props man, you got it running faster then I had thought! BAM, going to be hella awesome once you get that baby tuned. Sounds sexy even when your just pissing with the idle!

Better get on that exhaust thats a steal!

[markmdz89hatch]

minor update.

I finally put my freshly painted v/c on last night:

Done with VHT High Heat Wrinkle Red...

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_1212.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_1215.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/IMG_1216.jpg

[2ndGenGuy]

YES! Lovin' the 2g Valve cover on the 3g A20! w00t and those Webers are HAWT!

[guaynabo89]

^^^^^totally agree with that guy ;) lol


You mind if I copy you? I have a spare cover for when I was going to add fittings for my evap setup and was contemplating the wrinkle red or smoothing all the lines off and painting it the same color as the car.



Oh......and your oil cap doesnt match. :kekeke:

[87roach]

Looks REALLY good man, along with the manifold things are looking brand new!

[Rendon LX-i]

Now thats PURE MARK STATUS WORK LOL. i gotta say that is some wouderfull work man. Keep it up

[A18A]

intake is really sexy yo!

[Bass Man]

Www.hondaautomotiveparts (http://www.hondaautomotiveparts) sells the speedo cable for I think 30 bucks, or you looking for something cheaper?
DAMN! The site is down! I need stuff for my honda.

Edit: I figured out why the site was down... needs a .com...

[Joay]

Your valve cover came out so much better than mine... I've done like four with that stuff and they all look lame. :(

Great job though, engine looks rad.

[markmdz89hatch]

So here's a mod list so far:

Exterior:
GM Polar White paint
Custom Clear Corners
Custom Bumper Lenses & Housings
Paint-matched Grille
Tinted windows (35% fronts, 20% rear 3 windows)
Custom 3GEEZ badge/emblem

Running Gear:
Koni Reds on all four corners
B&G Springs
BF Goodrich braided SS brake lines
SE-i Rear brake conversion
88-89 LX-i/SE-i front brake conversion
Brembo Cross-Drilled rotors front and back (from factory)
Axxis Metal Master pads front and back
88-89 Front LX-i/SE-i anti-sway bar
88-89 Rear LX-i/SE-i anti-sway bar
Prelude front upper control arms
Ingalls adjustable rear upper control arms
"Manualized" and rebuilt Power Steering Rack (No more power steering)

...Wheels & Tires
...two sets...
..1.Konig B-Bomb 15x7 (et+38) Red w/ Polished Lip
.......Kumho VictorRacer V700 R-Compounds 205/50-15
..2.PR Racing 15x7 (et+38) Y-spoke's
.......Nitto NT450 205/50-15's up front with Toyo Proxy FZ-4 205/50-15's rear

Engine, Tranny & Performance:
P&P'd and milled head w/3-angle valve job
Delta 272 Cam
FelPro Blue Head Gasket
Golden Eagle Adjustable Cam Gear
MagneCore 8.5mm plug Wires
Bosch Platinum +4 Plugs
Rowland DCOE manifold
Twin Weber DCOE 45's
XS Power S680 AGM Battery
Lightened Crank Pulley (removed P/S and A/C pulley guides)
DC Sports Ceramic Coated header (very soon to be removed)
2G Prelude Si Tranny (low, low gearing [yikes])
ACT Super Mega Stupid Heavy Duty pressure plate (from Johnny-O's 10 second hatch)
F1 6-puck sprung-hub racing disc

Interior:
Off-black interior from a Phoenix Red DX hatch from the B-pillar back
Custom upholstered door panels and rear panel insert
Custom upholstered headliner
Custom dash insert
Custom steering wheel with quick disconnect
Sunpro 2” Sport ST gauges (electric oil temp, electric water temp, air/fuel)
Removed Heater Core, A/C compressor, Blower Motor, Defroster, and all HVAC ductwork.



And here’s what’s in the works (but not in [and in some cases not purchased] yet):

Engine/Tranny & Performance plans (short-term)
MegaJolt system w/ custom made crank pulley with trigger wheel
Custom bent 2.25" aluminized exhaust cat-back
Magnaflow SS 2.25" SS center/offset muffler
eBay Twin-tip 2.5” oval rolled-end exhaust tip
Cherry-bomb 22” 2.25” in/out glass-pack (in place of stock resonator)
SS Cat-delete 2.25” in/out w/ O2 bung for wideband
Custom super-long primary 4-1 header
Custom poly engine mounts
Custom front crossbar w/ heim joints connecting radius rods
Custom Short-throw shifter
Adapt a DC2 LSD into the prelude tranny and swap some gears from teg and 3G for optimized gearing.

Interior plans:
Finish off-black interior conversion (on dash and door panels)
Black aftermarket replacement carpet
LS Integra Black front seats w/ custom brackets for installation
5-point harness (driver and passenger)

Running Gear plans (short-term)
Replace Kumho V700’s with Ecsta V710’s all around
Replace Front rotors and calipers with Wilwood Ultra-Lites and 11.5-12” two-piece slotted rotor.
Custom front upper control arms (for more camber adjustability)
Vigor Rear anti-sway bar

[stat1K]

only suggestion i have for you mark, on the seats, i wouldn't do the ls integra as there aren't any true black seats, one is graphite, the other is a blue color, the RS integra has the closest to black but they're a pain to find, i would go with a crx si seat if you can find one, i have prelude seats in my ef sedan, they're from a 2000, they are super comfy and black, got em for 80 bucks and angus (lx-incredible) welded up some chopped brackets that we hacked and measured and fitted to them, so they bolt up like stock, easiest thing i found is go to the junk yard and get some seat rails, they cost me like 10 bucks for 4 of them, and just chop cut and weld to get one right and looking like stock.

here's what i'm talking about for the seats...

http://radekonline.com/download/seat_whole.jpg

prelude:

http://www.1stgencivic.org/1stgeneration_civic/mods/seats17.jpg

[Civic Accord Honda]

The Valve cover looks EPIC SEX!!!

[stat1K]

oh and i forgot to add i'm totally gonna go old school like you and throw down on the mad tyte edm single wiper... all you do is put a bigger blade and rotate the originating angle on it right? seems that straight forward anyway... i think my civic could use some more old school flavor.

forgot to also add that this build is sick and i love it... keep it up... if we end up doing an east coast meet that i can actually make it too i would love to see the car and meet you in person!

[Bass Man]

I was thinking about the Uni-wiper, but that's just a little too rice for me. Looking at my sig though, I just noticed I reallllly need to paint the wiper arms...

[hondafiend]

This is seriously one of my favorite cars on here. The carbs are awesome. Again, nice nice car man!

[Rendon LX-i]

NOW THATS WHATS UP bro....clean start up. Lookes like a big block at idle. moving back and fourth LOL

[markmdz89hatch]

thanks for the comments guys.

So slight updates....

Statik --> I hate to admit it, but I had a set of CRX seats in MINT condition about 7 years ago, and then spent another $600 to get the center sections reupholstered with a salt&pepper tweed. ...then about 2 years ago, I sold them for $160 shipped. I hate myself. You know I always thought the same about the 'teggy seats not being truly black, but the pics the guy sent me clearly show black bolsters with gray inserts. They do look good I must admit. We'll see though.

Ren --> Yeah thanks man. I love the shake from the no exhaust and the lopey idle. ...but the shaking will go away quite a bit as I'm working with another member on getting rid of the shake from the stock motor mounts. ...but that's all I'm gonna say about that.

Fiend --> Thanks man, that does mean a lot from a new member. Hope you plan on hanging out a while too.

Dennis --> Please by all means, go right ahead and do that. Hell I'll help you with the damn thing if it's possible.

Shameless plug here: Guys, check out the link in my sig. Get yourself some 3geez emblems/badges.

[Civic Accord Honda]

uni wiper ftw... pitty it wouldnt look good on my big ass accord lol damn 4th gens

[hondafiend]

Hey man have you done any more work. Engine sounds great, i would like to hear it under load.:thumbup:

[Mellexx]

i would like to hear it under load.:thumbup:

Agreed we need more vids :D

[markmdz89hatch]

i haven't done much of anything to it lately... (too damn cold)

But here's the few things.....
Sold the MR-2 Seats (they were going to be WAY more work than I wanted to put in to get them to fit right in the car)
The Konig's were dismounted from the tires and the tires (and wheels) are up for sale.
Last night I removed the stock shifter so I can get a new one installed soon enough

I've tried starting it a few times since that last vid, but no luck. It's a throttle issue and an issue of 5+ yr old fuel in the tank. That's going to be drained and filled up with some nice fresh stuff come spring time. For now, if I try to start it between now and then I'll just run a fuel line from a portable tank to the pump and let it get it's fuel that way.

More updates to come though. I refuse to let the cold stop all progress.

[dacantu]

Mark i never bought jferns seats. You should contact him. I have his phone number also. Pm me if you want it

[hondafiend]

Hey man! Done anymore work to the car? I want to see more! HAHA

[markmdz89hatch]

I didn't do a damn thing to it over the winter. It's just too damn cold out to do anything and my garage is so small that I can't do any work on it while in the garage, so my options are limited.

Hopefully I'll start getting things going in the coming weeks though. Stay tuned for updates.

[guaynabo89]

you have about 9-10 weeks to finish. or at least make it drivable so get to it! ;)





Oh and you already got the damend speedo cable! :rant:

lol

[markmdz89hatch]

I know I know, I need to edit the damn signature. I'll do that soon Dennis.

[hondafiend]

I didn't do a damn thing to it over the winter. It's just too damn cold out to do anything and my garage is so small that I can't do any work on it while in the garage, so my options are limited.

Hopefully I'll start getting things going in the coming weeks though. Stay tuned for updates.

HAHA I hear ya on the too cold part man! Its been that way around here. Thats why my roommate and I are taking so long on his car. Well that and lack of funding. So anyway, good luck getting something done. Hopefully the weather will get better.

[mkymonkey]

man, i wonder if i should sell only a few parts of my car and build it up...hmm...ideas ideas

anyway good job that valvecover is pure sex. subscribed for progress

[Civic Accord Honda]

man, i wonder if i should sell only a few parts of my car and build it up...hmm...ideas ideas

anyway good job that valvecover is pure sex. subscribed for progress

yes yes you should!!

and mark lets this baby back on the road! getrdon!

[guaynabo89]

anyway good job that valvecover is pure sex. subscribed for progress


yes it is. So good in fact I'm going to copy him. ;)

[Civic Accord Honda]

bump

[dreeeemA]

want some pic of this!

[markmdz89hatch]

She saw sunlight last weekend...

...but only for a few hours as I cleared a bunch of shit out of my garage to make room for a new toolbox I'm hoping to buy in the next few weeks. BUT... I had my hands on the car long enough to really want to get it going (again) (...err... ...again, again, again, again, again [for those that know me and that have been around since the late 90's)])

I came across a good deal on yet another set of wheels over the winter that I couldn't say no to. They were such a good deal that even if they didn't fit, or look good, I'd just sell 'em and move on.

thoughts?

Can anyone identify these wheels? If so, you've either been around a bit, or know your ol'skool wheels. 16x7.5 et.38
Yes, I know what they are, just testing you guys that's all. and yes, I know the tire is a pancake too.
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/image1.jpg

Trying out a set of 14" Miata wheels. Wicked light! This bastard almost took my finger off when I put it on. It definitely bent it permanently/maybe broke it.
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/image4.jpg

The mesh wheel (15") in the background is the 'ol faithful set that's been with me since '01.

[Pico]

Looks Good Mark,
I'd love to see the car finished up and back on the road

[Mellexx]

I definitely love the way it looks with the first set of 16's on it!

[guaynabo89]

Mono Ferrari's use to be the Ish back n d day.! I had the mono arrows in chrome.

[markmdz89hatch]

Ding ding ding ! Give that man a cookie! Dennis hit the nail on the head. Momo Ferrari Engineering. Much love for the Arrows too.

[2ndGenGuy]

Hey you got those Miata wheels to fit eh? The hub bore is definitely smaller than most Hondas...

[87roach]

Wow, it makes an appearance :D

[Tdurr]

get er done!