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Tomisimo
05-29-2009, 04:33 AM
I guess this is time I get my self one of those threads, to keep everything in order. I start with simple photoshoot and a bit of history to this car.

The car is all original 87 model and gone 162k mils, no changes to it over the years, it even had original fire extinguisher in it. It was imported from Belgium in 89 and were originally sold for 649.000 German marks in its day, I even have a resit for it. Since 89 it was rolling in south Norway around Oslo whole its life, I was surprised to see so little rust on it as it is, because they salt those roads down there like crazy. There is one hole in the trunk on passenger side and small bubble rust here and there, but overall good. Car were never involved in any accidents after I checked car fax. its clean.. and Now I'm a proud owner of this good example.

At the moment I swap A20a4 in it because my B20a2 had timing belt snapped so some valves are bent and what not. Anyways I was going to rebuild that engine, Have some plans for it but I dont going to shout about it before I do them. But head will be reworked for sure.

Here are a little photoshoot.
Exterior.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde004-2.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde015-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde017.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde016-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde005-4.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde007-3.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde003-3.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde014-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde011-3.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde009-3.jpg

Tomisimo
05-29-2009, 04:36 AM
Interior
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde012-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Interior/Bilde025.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Interior/Bilde033.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Interior/Bilde034.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Interior/Bilde028.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Interior/Bilde031.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Interior/Bilde26-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Interior/Bilde038.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Interior/Bilde027.jpg

A18A
05-29-2009, 04:39 AM
that's really nice :) i love that spoiler! you should put it in a box and ship it to me lol. what's happening with your other car?

Tomisimo
05-29-2009, 04:41 AM
and some engine pics.

while I work on it.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde015.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde019.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde018.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde000.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde001.jpg
huh, kill switch on black box :/
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde005.jpg
and soon to be this
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/29102007008.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/29102007002.jpg

Tomisimo
05-29-2009, 04:45 AM
that's really nice :) i love that spoiler! you should put it in a box and ship it to me lol. what's happening with your other car?

I haven't decided yet if I will keep that spoiler or not. I like it but then I hate it so only time will tell, but if I will take it off I'll let you know, as long as you pay shipping its yours.

about other car? well, I will part it and then I guess it will go to JY if I don move, because my landlord dont like the idea of to many cars here.

A18A
05-29-2009, 05:07 AM
minter, i cant find any spoilers like that over here except on mitsubishis (maybe i just haven't been looking hard enough) lol. I wish i could have that bonnet from your other car, i want angry eyes on mine :P

Tomisimo
05-29-2009, 05:44 AM
I can send you my bonnet, if you send me 86-87 vigor trunk lid :D

mykwikcoupe
05-29-2009, 06:28 AM
is the fixed front headlights the same from europe to NZ? Maybe its the black but the front looks different to moe. Its like its taller and the center section is more narrow than aarons car per say. The spioler is tits man whoever gets it will have a great looking ass thats for sure.

Rendon LX-i
05-29-2009, 06:46 AM
Thats a very legit setup man. wtf kill switch on the black box LOL cuts all the vacum huh? LOL

chillphillyphil
05-29-2009, 09:54 AM
Awesome car - plz don't hack it up too much - perfect as-is. Tint, Slam, wheels (gunmetal) and its perfect!! BTW bad ass wrench set! ;D

Tomisimo
05-29-2009, 03:55 PM
Thats a very legit setup man. wtf kill switch on the black box LOL cuts all the vacum huh? LOL

no, it bolted to black box, and tru it and in to alarm speaker. on the bottom there was sensor glued on black box. I believe it was a kill switch that locks all power in the car besides it self. it was quiet complex alarm. I think original install as its wired under the dash not with iso-tape but heat hoses that shrink when heated, and everything hidden with the rest of wiring under there.

Used like 2 hours just to remove all wiring from under the hood alone, but under the dash it just have to wait until opportunity when I will install new alarm later on.

Mike it it a lens illusion, those first 2 photos are made by seller, I thought of that too. But its still the same car as other members in NZ have. and also my car is on stock springs so its seems taller.

ChillyPhil, chilling? well yes, have new KYBs with B&G drop springs 1.6" and wheels also. just havnt put them on yet. And as the tint goes, it will have to wait until I find new front windows, my are with scratches after 23 year abuse.

AccordB20A
05-29-2009, 05:23 PM
the only ugly part of that car is the rear i reckon, cause your number plates are so damn big it looks a little strange. vigor rear end would look tops but you will have to mount your number plate in your bumper somehow.
still interested in the corner lights? they wont go anywhere in a hurry

speedpenguin
05-29-2009, 06:45 PM
That is one clean car, I can't wait to watch the progress.

MessyHonda
05-30-2009, 08:37 AM
sweet...get that b20 on the road

Tomisimo
05-31-2009, 04:52 AM
Some updates. today I'm going to get engine lift from one guy I know, so soon I will be taking that engine out and put in a A20 in it asap. just to have my car rolling.

Aaron, yes I'm still interested in those corners, and I'm thinking of getting original Vigor trunk lid. as for the rear bumper goes, was considering to use Aerodeck bumper as parts donor, cut out numberplate piece and welt it in to this original bumper so I think that, that problem is solved. And if you can find SuperStage Accord there for side moldings. Want those with chrome in them and mirrors with chrome. Well I need to plan my expenses carefully if I'm to make it happen.

Thanks guys I like it too, really clean car for its age. As far as that B20 goes, it will be on the road as soon as I'm rebuild it :) Cant wait my self actually.

Dr_Snooz
05-31-2009, 06:48 AM
Very nice car Tom! Looking forward to seeing your progress.

Pico
05-31-2009, 06:51 AM
The car is looking great Tom.
Your making fast progress on it and cant wait to see pics of the work done on it as time goes by.

carotman
06-01-2009, 07:02 AM
Sweet!

markmdz89hatch
06-01-2009, 08:06 AM
c'mon man, hurry up with that downgrade swap!

The new one looks great Tom, keep it clean.

My take on that rear spoiler is: KEEP IT.

Is that rear window shade an OEM thing?

Tomisimo
06-03-2009, 01:10 PM
I'm setting back because of bad weather here.. rain and wind but I made some progress. Decided to take the head of and see whats what under there, but as soon as I got in to that I run at another problem, those tree nuts that are underneath the intake manifold are hard to come near with regular tools. its so tight there.
We, me and Mark D are on AIM figuring this one out. One proposition is to take whole head with intake out and then get it of or what else?

but anyhow, here are few pics for you. Enjoy

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde0001.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde0011.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde0031.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde0041.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde0051.jpg
Covered it against dust and such
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde0061.jpg
and one sad lill pic. Tragic picture...
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde000-1.jpg

danny nr crew
06-03-2009, 05:17 PM
o thats pretty simple well only if you have the swivel adapter that connects to an extension or the socket wrench jus look at the site below its basically the same concept jus with wrenches but if u already got them off then:rockon:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21P8XHY7S4L.jpg

A18A
06-03-2009, 05:23 PM
We, me and Mark D are on AIM figuring this one out. One proposition is to take whole head with intake out and then get it of or what else?

swear lots & lots & lots, and those other nuts will come off. worked for me lol. good progress & your original accord looks sad :( it's supposed to look angry, not sad :P

Tdurr
06-03-2009, 06:01 PM
swear lots & lots & lots, and those other nuts will come off. worked for me lol. good progress & your original accord looks sad :( it's supposed to look angry, not sad :P

true! i think its the flat spare that does it! lol

Tomisimo
06-04-2009, 12:46 AM
Yea I swear alot and have scraped some of my skin on my hands as well then I swear some more.. But yea, I got that that I need a swivel but I dont have one, maybe I will make a visit to my local hardware store and see there.

Yes my old Accord looks sad, but I think its angry right now. It didnt wanted to start yesterday until I sweet talk to it. lol

carotman
06-04-2009, 03:46 AM
Take the whole head out with the intake. it's a LOT easier to do.

Tomisimo
06-05-2009, 05:25 AM
Well I managed to take the head off today, in small 4 hour window before it started to pore rain again. I was shocked when I seen whats in there..

well look for your self :(

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde001-1.jpg?t=1244207839
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde002.jpg?t=1244207899
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde003-1.jpg?t=1244207935
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde004.jpg?t=1244207950
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde005-1.jpg?t=1244207970
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde006-2.jpg?t=1244207993
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde007-1.jpg?t=1244208027
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde008-1.jpg?t=1244208044

Almost all exhaust valves are bent and few intake valves. But anyways, the pistons had so much coal on them that I dont see any other choice than to rip it apart and rebuild the whole engine. Its just no point to change valves and guides and leave everything like it is.
By that means, my A20 is going in soon, so I can drive it at least...
Feels like crap, because on 40$ belt can do so much damage... :hmph:

Nafs Asdf
06-05-2009, 06:46 AM
Damn :(
makes me wonder what mine looks like inside

chillphillyphil
06-05-2009, 10:14 PM
hrmmm......

AccordB20A
06-06-2009, 12:21 AM
man that motors not looked after whatsoever i see why u asked me for a new one lol

Hauntd ca3
06-06-2009, 12:45 AM
just sell him a head eh man.
prob cheaper to ship one to him than recon the thing.
bad luck tommi, duz suck a bit snapping a belt

markmdz89hatch
06-06-2009, 04:44 AM
yeah, if I'm not mistaken, the white (H) valves are the intakes, and by the looks of the pics, they're all shot b/c they all look to have touched down on the pistons. All of the Exhaust valves look good though based on the pics.

....but the bad news. All of the pistons have made contact, and therefore, I would replace all pistons too if I were you. ...or at least get all the carbon off them and see how marred the face of the piston is. Cyl 4 looks to have taken the worst of the damage, and looks like it's really F'd.

But this could be a blessing in disguise because that head was dirty as hell, and by the looks of the headgasket, it looks like you had some mixture of oil & water, so it was only a matter of time.

I would first just try to find a new motor running and tested, and before you put it in, be sure to replace the t-belt, water pump, and pull the head to be sure the pistons are good there's no signs of contact on the valves, then put it in.

IMO, your original motor (pictured) should be pulled, and have the block bored out .20 over, new pistons, rings, water pump, main & rod bearings, head gasket, etc (basically a full rebuild), and inspect the journals on the crank for any scoring and decide if the crank need any reconditioning. The head will need to be completely disassembled and all intake valves replaced and exhaust valves inspected and replaced as needed. The head should be dipped and thoroughly cleaned, and I would also make sure the intake guides are all still true (again, replace as necessary). While you're at it, get a full valve-job on it (once you get the new valves) to make sure you're getting a perfect seat.

That'll get you one bad ass motor.

Tomisimo
06-06-2009, 10:28 AM
I know Mark, This engine is busted. So by that means that I will put my 12V in it and drive as is for now, because I need a car and its kinda boring to walk every where.
I have been to a machine shop and got an price to look at, well the whole job would cost me 1.4K $USD, thats for machine wash, milling of the head, bore for valve settings, changing to bronze valve guides, stage 2 port on both exhaust and intake sides, and assembly.
Havnt asked for a complete price for engine block yet. Overbore, hone, wash, check and crank balance. But I guess it will cost as much if not more.
Mark, kan you ask your machine shop about what the price would be to bore out B16a pistons from 21mm to 22mm wrist pin. I thin thats would be a good idea when I heed to change pistons anyways. And I was thinking to buy B16a pistons with 10:1 CR so I increase overall compression to 12/12.5:1. Did B18C rods fit our crank or? because if they do, than I dont need to bore out to 22mm. I can just use those rods instead.

thegreatdane
06-07-2009, 10:01 AM
Hold your horses now mate.
I really doubt that the engine block part of your engine has suffered any damage from your valve collission.
Their may be parts that need to be replaced (bearings in specific) but that is going to be because of normal wear and tear (or unknown previous abuse). As you mentioned the car has done a lot of miles.

If I were you and I was really strapped for cash and just needed to have the car running for a year or two more without doing any mods to the engine I would just check the bearings and replace as necessary, then replace all the valves with a set of used valves together with a valvejob and make sure the valve to valve guide tolerances is within specs or very close to.

But if you are perfectly happy spending the cash on building the engine from the bottom up that's fine as well. And your build ideas sound sweet anyway. I was just getting the impression that you werent very fond of spending a lot of money on this right now.

BTW. all the carbon build-up and small valve marks on the pistons don't mean ANYTHING.

Ichiban
06-07-2009, 11:21 AM
I would still take the opportunity to measure everything and freshen up with new honing (bore if req'd), rings, bearings, seals, and obviously the top end work. Why fix half of the engine when you can go through it all. Bearings and gaskets really aren't that much more, and you get a basically new engine out of the deal.

thegreatdane
06-07-2009, 01:10 PM
As I said: "If I were you and I was really strapped for cash..."
It doesnt have to be a half assed job just because you dont replace every single part of the engine.
Anyone would want to do the full rebuild together with new performance parts if they had the choice.

Tomisimo
06-08-2009, 12:26 AM
Yeah, I'm really low on cash now. to much expenses nowadays. So I dont have time to rebuild head right now so thats why I'm swaping A20 in it and will gradually rebuild this B20. Thats the plan anyways. I know everyone wants to rebuild with performance parts and all, but I will try to keep price to the minimum by using original parts and rather do great work on the head, intake and exhaust. The bottom end will have to wait, only bearings and B16a pistons will go in. nothing more. I were checking and find that original B16 pistons cost no more than 60USD a set on eBay.

And Marthin can you help me to convert to OBD1? I really dont have a clue when it comes to electronics, I'm more mechanical type.

Engine will have some attention, but no more than it needs to be done, because the body need some loving to, rear quarters needs to be welded, and trunk because I have a hole there, and that spoiler is so heavy that it fkup lock mechanism, so mount with ear needs to be rewelded as well. some minor rust spots needs to be threated before its to late. dont want any cancer on this car. Plus wind shield needs to be changed, after 22 years with ice scraping, cant see a shit when I meet other cars on the road at night. If you ask me, I have more than enough to think about ehh..

carotman
06-08-2009, 06:01 AM
I agree with Marthin, the bottom end is probably 100% fine. (Well, fine in the way that it hasn't been damaged by the valves)

wprocomp
06-08-2009, 07:23 AM
yeah it looks ok to me-1.4kusd is a joke for a head build there's bound to be someone else cheaper than that dude. If your going to rebuild the motor B16 pistons will be a good upgrade-but make sure you replace the rod bearings if anything at all just make sure and plastigauge them you may have to machine the crank.

Tomisimo
06-08-2009, 09:32 AM
IDK guys, but it looks more ok on pick than in real life, up close pistons looks dented. I hope they didn crack tho, its kinda hard to see underneath all carbon build up. But I'm going to disassemble whole engine in bits and pieces and give it nice wash before I judge anything. But I will use this opportunity to change rod and crank bearings so I can go over to fully synthetic oil.
Tell me guys, dos B18c rods fit our crank, and do they have the same stroke if I'm upgrading to B16a pistons? What is highest CR will work with B16a pistons before interfering with the valves? I think that is simple and cheap way to increase power in this engine. And yes 1.4k is stupid price but since I live in Norway, there is only handful of such tuners that do kind of work, and they are good at what they do. But this have to wait anyhow.

carotman
06-08-2009, 10:56 AM
Hopw many miles does the engine have?

I noticed you have PJ5 pistons, interesting! This is a B20A1?

BTW, you can use other B series pistons if you bore out the piston pin. I have Integra Type-R Pistons in my B20A.

Just clean the top of the pistons for cracks. Check the bore size if it's oval. Since you're on a tight budget, don't overdo anything if it's not necessary.

Nafs Asdf
06-08-2009, 11:23 AM
Hopw many miles does the engine have?

I noticed you have PJ5 pistons, interesting! This is a B20A1?

BTW, you can use other B series pistons if you bore out the piston pin. I have Integra Type-R Pistons in my B20A.

Just clean the top of the pistons for cracks. Check the bore size if it's oval. Since you're on a tight budget, don't overdo anything if it's not necessary.

How can you tell they're PJ5's? All I can see is part of a P, something that could be both the end of a J or the left leg of an H, and something that resembles either a 5 or a 3... I vote PH3.

But if it really is an A1, damn good catch... Would've never noticed the letters without you saying that.

The suspension rises while we wait for Tom to check...

And carot, totally off topic but feel like giving me some advice later on when I'm converting to a PJ5 JDM ECU with the electronic advance, maybe in July? Didn't you do this too, but to a PK2 ECU?

Tomisimo
06-08-2009, 11:55 AM
You are indeed right Carot its PJ5 pistons, hmm, what dos it means then? While block says B20a2.
edit: this engine has around 170k mils on it.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde011.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde010.jpg

And some more up close shoots, just to show why I think those are dented.
Those are werst piston 4 3 (^up there^) and 2
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde014-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde013-1.jpg

Nafs Asdf
06-08-2009, 12:10 PM
According to the shop manual and EPC, the B20A2 should have PH3 pistons... So I guess they've been swapped?

Tomisimo
06-08-2009, 02:26 PM
Thats possible, maybe back in the day someone tried to tune it. This car were imported from belgium so who knows I also found that top gasket is not fully the same with all oil and water channels, maybe I find more surprises with this car, Now I'm wondering what ECU it has, so next thing tomorrow I will check that too.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde002.jpg?t=1244207899
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde001-1.jpg?t=1244499882
or it supose to be like that?

Tomisimo
06-08-2009, 02:38 PM
I would still take the opportunity to measure everything and freshen up with new honing (bore if req'd), rings, bearings, seals, and obviously the top end work. Why fix half of the engine when you can go through it all. Bearings and gaskets really aren't that much more, and you get a basically new engine out of the deal.

Indeed, you thinking in my tempo, why not, yes it will take more time as money dont grow on bushes, but I have strong A20 to move it while I'm at it. Will have to hear about what it would cost to hone cylinders. and I will never in my life put new pistons without new rings on them, I had bad experience with that before.

carotman
06-09-2009, 05:53 AM
170k miles or 170K km? (huge difference). If it's 170k miles, I would think about a bottom end refresh.

PJ5 pistons could have come from the factory, it's just a stamped number after all. My B20A had PK2 pistons.

Don't worry about the oil/coolant channels in the gasket. It's all fine.

thegreatdane
06-09-2009, 06:38 AM
Yea the headgasket looks absolutely normal. You have an engine block heater :)


And Marthin can you help me to convert to OBD1? I really dont have a clue when it comes to electronics, I'm more mechanical type.

Sure, but best wait till you get the B20A back in. You can start collecting parts for the conversion though.


I noticed you have PJ5 pistons, interesting! This is a B20A1?

Nothing ever gets past your x-ray vision does it? :)

Tomisimo
06-09-2009, 10:25 PM
Carot, the car has clocked 270k kilometers or 170k mils, so this is pretty far. I think bearings needs to be replaced anyway.

Marthin, can you give me parts list? of what do I need for OBD1 swap? And what do you think is best? over internet or me sending you pats or me coming to Denmark to do this swap?

I have a lill Idea for you and Naf, what if we do a meet in sweden? you in your nice silver, hem in hes cool red and me in my black accord. next summer or something :D Do som like B20a meet

Hauntd ca3
06-09-2009, 10:36 PM
he also has a water cooled oil cooler.
that funny thing between the filter and motor with 2 hoses sticking out.
i dont have one :(

Nafs Asdf
06-09-2009, 10:50 PM
Carot, the car has clocked 270k kilometers or 170k mils, so this is pretty far. I think bearings needs to be replaced anyway.

Marthin, can you give me parts list? of what do I need for OBD1 swap? And what do you think is best? over internet or me sending you pats or me coming to Denmark to do this swap?

I have a lill Idea for you and Naf, what if we do a meet in sweden? you in your nice silver, hem in hes cool red and me in my black accord. next summer or something :D Do som like B20a meet

I like the idea about the meet :D
Where about in Norway are you? We should find a place about the same distance away for everyone, maybe a camping site or something.

Tomisimo
06-09-2009, 11:09 PM
I live in Trondheim area at the moment, but we going to move soon sometime this summer up north. I think the best would be a Gatebil meet in Runskogen, we can arrange a tent with 3Geez logo. but it depends. I think that if we do this meet, we need to go someplace where nice roads are and we can sleep over, like you said a camping. maybe take a drive 3 of us. We dont have Swedish 3Geezer?

HountedCA3 thanks for pointing that out, I was wondering of what it was. Thats cool thing to have. if I get it boosted one day.

AccordB20A
06-10-2009, 01:01 AM
i thought all b20a has oil coolers?? all of mine have

must be a blacktop thing

Hauntd ca3
06-10-2009, 01:46 AM
havnt noticed one on mine eh

A18A
06-10-2009, 02:55 AM
mine has one too lol

Tomisimo
06-10-2009, 04:28 AM
How do you guys take out that bolt that goes tru bushing at the strut fork? mine want budge at all, I can turn whole bushing inside control arm but bolt just want go out.

Nafs Asdf
06-10-2009, 06:27 AM
I live in Trondheim area at the moment, but we going to move soon sometime this summer up north. I think the best would be a Gatebil meet in Runskogen, we can arrange a tent with 3Geez logo. but it depends. I think that if we do this meet, we need to go someplace where nice roads are and we can sleep over, like you said a camping. maybe take a drive 3 of us. We dont have Swedish 3Geezer?

HountedCA3 thanks for pointing that out, I was wondering of what it was. Thats cool thing to have. if I get it boosted one day.

I think I've seen some swedish guy here... But no one that seems to be around too often.


Would take me a while to get to that Rudskogen place

From Vaasa to Rudskogen Motorsenter1,112 km ľ about 16 hours 11 mins


And the ferry on top of that... which is either 2 or 9 hours depending on if I go over here or from Turku.

carotman
06-10-2009, 06:43 AM
How do you guys take out that bolt that goes tru bushing at the strut fork? mine want budge at all, I can turn whole bushing inside control arm but bolt just want go out.

This is because rust formed between the bushing sleeve and the bolt.

If you can turn the whole bushing, this means it needs to be replaced. Take a torch and heat the sleeve as much as you can and spray it with penetrating lubricant. This is the only way to take the bolt out. The bushing will be dead but you'll have to replace it anyway.

However, since this is quite time consuming and might overcome the cost of a new bolt and bushing, you could just saw the bolt off and install a new bolt and bushing combo.

Tomisimo
06-10-2009, 07:21 AM
Thanks Carotman, I tried to loosen it up with wrench on the other side of the bolt but before I knew it it just turned around, bushing that is. I have a set of bolts laing around someplace so its cool, but new bushing hmm.. Can I still use it if I get it out, for some time. I wanted to change all of then anyways soon..
and Carot, do you know if front sway bar from 4G will fit our cars? I remember seeing in some thread but its just to much balls in the air in most threads so I'm not really sure.

Naf's, I can understand that you have a long drive there. If I move to Alta than I will have to drive as far as you do. But we can always meet someplace in sweeden, they have great roads there so sud be quick then :D We need to wait for Marthin, and see what he think about that idea.

Nafs Asdf
06-10-2009, 09:45 AM
Naf's, I can understand that you have a long drive there. If I move to Alta than I will have to drive as far as you do. But we can always meet someplace in sweeden, they have great roads there so sud be quick then :D We need to wait for Marthin, and see what he think about that idea.

Alta...

*googles*

Damn, that is north. A bit further and you'd be going south again ;)

Would be cool to do something like this, let's hope gas prices go down next year... Sucks that the ferry that goes over to Umeň from here is so damn expensive it's probably cheaper to drive up and down through Tornio/Haparanda.

Tomisimo
06-10-2009, 10:10 AM
Yea no shit, this is almost as far north as it gets... but but. Convert to LPG, its cheap fuel. I know I want. under 2liters for 1euro its a price I can live with.

Tomisimo
06-11-2009, 07:20 AM
The engine is out :D had few problems but all in all good progress. here some picks.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde000-2.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde001-2.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde002-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde004-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde003-2.jpg
its dirty as hell so the engine bay. but at least I have a chance to clean it out :D so now to the A20, I have to swap radiator from my other car as well because this in black one is rotten. othar than that is all good.
Ordered new timing belt today for A20, and I have new clutch with refurbished flywheel, so going to replace that too. before drop it in. some day soon I hope if weather stays clear.

Tomisimo
06-11-2009, 08:08 AM
and this is what I did, I raped that LCA along with strut fork. I have a spare set so its not a big deal. Goig to use LCA from my other car.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde0001-1.jpg
and dirty engine bay
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde0021-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde0031-1.jpg
what is best house hold residue is best to wash with? and what you guys clean hoses with?

carotman
06-11-2009, 09:05 AM
Good job!

To clean the enginebay. I use a stuff called "Simple Green". I don't know if it's available where you live.

2ndGenGuy
06-11-2009, 09:57 AM
Simple Green FTW! Also that Citrus / Orange cleaner works REALLY damn well.

markmdz89hatch
06-11-2009, 10:10 AM
...so we got Simple Green, Citrus Orange, and I use Purple Power.

All work real well.

Nafs Asdf
06-11-2009, 10:12 AM
Anything blue? ;)

thegreatdane
06-11-2009, 03:25 PM
Marthin, can you give me parts list? of what do I need for OBD1 swap? And what do you think is best? over internet or me sending you pats or me coming to Denmark to do this swap?

Hehe you're welcome to come here to get the swap done but I think that would be way way too much trouble for yourself. I think you can do everything yourself but if there's anything you get stuck with you can send it to me if you like.
I would recommend the following parts:

Acura Integra LS B18B OBD1 distributor with cut engine harness connectors included
Chipped P06 or P28 ecu
B-series plug for exhaust cam hole (or make something yourself - I did).
OBD1 ecu conversion harness (or DIY, requires 1 old obd0 ecu and a cut obd1 ecu connector)
B16A2 or other compatable intake manifold with throttlebody, cut TPS engine harness connector, IACV, cut IACV engine harness connector and fuel rail included
~3 meters of shielded wire
Wideband O2 sensor (Innovate LC1 is fine)
or optionally if you dont want to tune anything yourself you can leave out the O2 sensor entirely or you can install standard narrowband sensor which requires:
O2 sensor with cut engine harness connector (you can use old type 1 wire sensor or newer type 4 wire heated sensor)
O2 sensor steel weld-in bung to weld into your downpipe (or replace your header with something else that already has an O2 sensor)
Gauge cluster from accord with cruise control

I think that's it more or less.
What's the reason you want to go OBD1?
If it's not because you want to get the engine properly tuned it's probably not worth the trouble.
I really like the OBD1 conversion because it makes the engine bay alot cleaner but that is probably not reason enough for you to go OBD1.


I have a lill Idea for you and Naf, what if we do a meet in sweden? you in your nice silver, hem in hes cool red and me in my black accord. next summer or something :D Do som like B20a meet

That would be cool. Question is if it's logistically possible?

I wouldnt mind driving to Rudskogen as it's only ~500 km plus a ~100euro ferry or bridge ticket, but looks like Nafs is stuck behind the Gulf of Bothnia.
How much are those ferries Nafs? You're probably the one who will be able to travel the shortest distance for X money.

Also I'm not excactly sure what my options are next year as I'll be into my first year of studying as an engineer at that time, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to afford having a car registered :/
But I'm up for something if I have the option.
Never been to sweden or norway yet, or finland for that matter, and would love to go.
I'm taking a trip to mont blanc in france in a couple of weeks in my silver 16v accord. 1300 km and mountain roads should put it to the test :)

And holy shit Tom, Alta is far up north! you are going to freeze your ass off up there. You will need a snow mobile and not a car lol

/End of marathon post

thegreatdane
06-11-2009, 03:36 PM
Lol that strut fork sure got taken care of :) It sucks ass when they're seized and they usually are on old accords where we live.

Pulling an engine hoist around on a gravel road is a bitch isnt it haha. I've done it a couple of times so I know the feeling lol

Looks like your alternator was replaced recently which is good because they cost an arm and a leg. And I can see you know the old powersteering reservoir hose trick :)

MessyHonda
06-12-2009, 12:19 AM
progress.....looks good so far

A18A
06-12-2009, 12:31 AM
petrol cleans a engine bay all good too :)

Nafs Asdf
06-12-2009, 01:15 AM
That would be cool. Question is if it's logistically possible?

I wouldnt mind driving to Rudskogen as it's only ~500 km plus a ~100euro ferry or bridge ticket, but looks like Nafs is stuck behind the Gulf of Bothnia.
How much are those ferries Nafs? You're probably the one who will be able to travel the shortest distance for X money.


The ferry from here to Umeň is 60 euro/person and 65 euro for the car, one way. That one takes about 2 hours to get to the other side.

If I drive down to Turku and take the ferry to Stockholm it's 11 euro/person, or 45 euro and up for a cabin (1-4 persons) plus anywhere between 20 and 70 euro for the car, depending on date and time. But this one makes a stop in ┼land, so the trip is like 10 hours.

Anyhow if we do this, I wouldn't be going on my lonesome. I'd probably have to make it a family trip (we got two kids, 1.5 and 3.5 years old).

So for the round trip with the ferrys it'd be up to around 200-250 euro, plus gas and food... Yeah when I think about it the only way to do this for would be to make the whole deal a summer vacation camping trip on our part, bet the kids would love it too. Would just need to go somewhere with an amusement park or something like that.

Shouldn't be that hard to save up the cash for either, a whole year to go. :)

Or if I were to drive around the gulf, we'd all have roughly the same distance to go if we met up somewhere in the middle of sweden. And if Tom is coming down from Alta, we could meet up on Haparanda on the way. Would mean over 1000 km's of driving for each tho.

Tomisimo
06-13-2009, 05:56 AM
Thanks guys for replys. really helps me and motivates me. Today I havent done nothing at all, its poring rain like from a bucket. and it cold outside.

Marthin the main reason I want to do OBD1 swap is because I'm going with B16a pistons and maybe B18a/b cams. And porting head. So I want it to be tuned if I want to get 200hp out of it, I see no other choice. And as a bonus I get clean engine bay as well. I set a goal of 200Hp from N/A engine so thats what I'm aiming for.
hehe you noticed it with PS trick, I havent thought about it, I just did. And its a such pain in the ass to pull that lift across gravel, so I going to use plywood next time. I almost shit my self when I drag it.
Yes the alternator is changed for about 5k kilometers back, and they are to expensive indeed, I'm glad its new. Dos it fit A20 or not, because my is busted on A20. it charge, than it dont charge. I think I fried diodes on it.
Thanks for the list of parts it really helps, now I just need to get my head around and find all that stuff, when its all gathered I will start on this swap, I'm thinking that It would be best if I took a snap tour to you and did it with ya if you dont mind, and get a lill vacation at the same time some time next year I think.

Naf's it souds good If you take your family with you, I dont mind at all about that, as long its not going to be hard on your smallest guy. its a long road trip for that age. There is Liseberg amusement park in sweeden we can go to. and if I'm in Alta at that time, we do can meet half way and drive together. could be fun :D or I can drive sometime sooner to finland and meet with you.

AccordB20A
06-13-2009, 02:49 PM
alternators will not swap but you can simply pull the alternator apart and swap your good rectifier, brushes and regulator from one into the other.

Civic Accord Honda
06-13-2009, 04:23 PM
my 3g had thick carbon build up like that was from running rich .. apparently everything in the block was still in excellent condition and would have probably gone another 200k miles with a new head gasket

Tomisimo
06-17-2009, 04:41 PM
well I wrote a damn long post and my firefox shot down, so I lost everything I wrote. but here a revue.
I took out A20 today and swapped radiators. Picks say it all!
Enjoy.. I'm off to bed its 2:30AM now and I'm tired.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde007-2.jpg?t=1245285007
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde008-2.jpg?t=1245285050
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde009.jpg?t=1245285070
here'is heart transplant table haha..
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde010-1.jpg?t=1245285094
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde012-1.jpg?t=1245285169
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde013-2.jpg?t=1245285180
And finally out. It rests now. Timing belt is here so that will be changed ASAP, about that. Can you guys tell me how to take off crank pulley? I cant lock it in place to unbolt it. Any tips? Thanks
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde016-1.jpg?t=1245285202
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde017-1.jpg?t=1245285334
And Radiator swap. the one that was on a Black Accord is turned green and rotten, so I swapped Propeller. wash it and installed it.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde018-1.jpg?t=1245285361
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde019-1.jpg?t=1245285473
And if you notice on first pick of radiators, bottom bolts are so rusted that I needed to use undersize wrench to take that prop off. And I ratle painted those just in case it never happen again. you never see them anyway. might as well be red...

well I'm done for today... More to come soon

bullard123
06-17-2009, 04:53 PM
nice progress. your B20A will be jealous to see that a20 in there lol

A18A
06-17-2009, 05:03 PM
good work there :) jam a bolt or something down the timing inspection hole onto the flywheel or pull the starter out & put a bolt in there somewhere to lock the crank in place

carotman
06-18-2009, 08:24 AM
great progress!

Tomisimo
06-18-2009, 07:18 PM
Well today I have done alot.. first of build me a shack, than moved engine there, cleaned engine as good as I cud, changed timing belt, changed clutch and dropped engine in the black accord... was out there 10hours.
The story goes like that. Guy who I lend engine lift wants it back tomorrow or lats say today already. So I stressed it to get things done, at least drop engine in the car. and its poring rain today, so had to improvise a lill bit. So I build me a shack of some sort, but it worked great hehe.. Than it all begun, timing belt was a bit of a problem, crank pulley was so stubborn but eventually I got it off.. Than to the clutch, took g.box off and the rest (I have refurbished flywheel, but when I saw mine it was smooth like glass so I leaved alone)
To tell you guys, that washing with teeth brush is great and it works, and you get to most unbelievable places but it is time consuming ordeal.. Well I have some more pic whore here..
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde021-1.jpg?t=1245381178
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde022.jpg?t=1245381229
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde023-1.jpg?t=1245381254
Who said my engine bay was dirty?? lol not anymore its not, got it cleaned yesterday but it was to dark to take picks so I took those today.
...before...
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde0031-1.jpg?t=1245381466
...after...
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde024.jpg?t=1245381265
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde026.jpg?t=1245381347
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde026.jpg?t=1245381380

Tomisimo
06-18-2009, 07:23 PM
And finally, the famous A20 is inside.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde027.jpg?t=1245381395
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Engine%20Works/Bilde028.jpg?t=1245381510
I sud have taken more picks but I had no time and greasy fingers..
Thats about it, Now all I have to do is wire it and connect all hoses and its done.

markmdz89hatch
06-18-2009, 07:33 PM
damn Tom, that's dedication right there. Congrats on even getting this far. That engine bay looks mint. What did you end up using to get it that clean?

Tomisimo
06-18-2009, 07:56 PM
Thanks Mark, I tried to be on top of things today. my back gona pay for that but I dont care right now.
I first used pink stuff, SilitBang I believe, but that didnt work so great, so I dropped that Idea and used paint thinner, I used spray bottle I had left, fill it up and toot brush magic and one old sweater in files. 2 hours later it looked like that. and Used Silicone in spray box for hoses and wires.

AccordB20A
06-18-2009, 09:36 PM
mice job man cant wait to see her running :) reminds me of the time i swapped my b20 for a a20a2

speedpenguin
06-19-2009, 03:34 AM
Wow, all that work for an A20, huh?

AccordB20A
06-20-2009, 03:42 PM
any more progress

Tomisimo
06-21-2009, 05:54 AM
No not more, but it coming soon. I wait for good weather. it been raining for 3 weeks now. and I got sick.
only connecting and wiring thats left, and all new fluids. Gas tank swap. short shift swap, hood swap (paint black first), maybe trunk lid and 4G rear sway bar.
This is what is nearest plans... so keep watching :D

Tomisimo
06-26-2009, 09:54 AM
Ok I'm done with the swap, now. I'm done with wiring, but the engine just want crank at all, the lights come on, and PGM-FI light comes and all, but engine just standing still.
I had one fail, It started to smoke from wire that coes from dizzy to that small fuse of some sort. I turned on, checked, found where the problem was and tryed again but no life from it..

What it cud be?

EDIT: here is wire that started to smoke
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/3Geez/291020070061.jpg

Tomisimo
06-26-2009, 10:50 AM
this is what I did :(
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/3Geez/Bilde004-4.jpg

carotman
06-26-2009, 11:13 AM
Something is wrong.

This is a device to cancel parasites in the distributor signal.

If the car won't crank, I would check all the grounds

Is the ground by the thermostat properly attached?

Tomisimo
06-26-2009, 11:15 AM
Can you sign in AIM? Im there now. Thanks Carot
aim:GoChat?RoomName=ThirdGenerationAccord <-- here is the link, me and Mark are here

Tomisimo
06-28-2009, 01:00 PM
No one watch this threat I bet, but I write it down anyway.

I got engine started now, everything works, but it just want start from ignition key. Dont know what the problem is. I changed wire lom from other car, still nothing.
I have a Q. I had to cut ground wire to thermostat, because original B20 was to short. I didnt soldered it I just connected it and insulated with el.tape. cud it be a cause of my problem?

Civic Accord Honda
06-28-2009, 05:00 PM
your try swaping the ign switch from the other accord? if that not it run a new wire from the ign to the starter

but i must say good progresse man! that engine bay look great!

carotman
06-29-2009, 05:50 AM
No one watch this threat I bet, but I write it down anyway.

I got engine started now, everything works, but it just want start from ignition key. Dont know what the problem is. I changed wire lom from other car, still nothing.


Check the clutch switch



I have a Q. I had to cut ground wire to thermostat, because original B20 was to short. I didnt soldered it I just connected it and insulated with el.tape. cud it be a cause of my problem?

will not cause any problem unless the wires become loose.

Nafs Asdf
06-29-2009, 10:13 AM
Good that you got it started at least, hope you find what's wrong. Maybe it's the body of the car that's pissed about having an A20 stuffed into it? ;)

Tomisimo
06-29-2009, 11:50 AM
I thought about that lol, tried to sweet talk to it but she refuse to.

b20a86lude
06-29-2009, 02:06 PM
woa nice man

Tomisimo
06-29-2009, 02:34 PM
Updates :D
Today I done so far.
*Changed gear leaver to short shift. I had in my other car, I have welded it a while ago, shortened in 2 places. under ball and at leaver it self.
*Changed engine oil
*Changed oil filter
*Oil in Gearbox, used genuine Honda MTF3 oil, bout from local Honda shop.
*Assembled drive train
and I guess its time for some picks
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde002-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde001-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde004-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde005-2.jpg
and for those who never seen me.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde007-2.jpg

its getting kinda dark so picks are not at their best. shitty phone camera you know...

markmdz89hatch
06-29-2009, 05:28 PM
take a bath you dirty bastard. ...and wash that shirt. haha, j/k.

So what's the deal Tom? You get her running or what?

Rendon LX-i
06-29-2009, 08:07 PM
lol....i was going ot say LOL....yeah is she running yet bro

Tomisimo
06-30-2009, 05:32 AM
Mark, I'm tired to shover every time I tern a wrench lol and those clothes goes to trash after I'm done with it.
Today is another day so I'm out working again.

Randon she dos not running yet, but starts. Not with the key, so I neither need to change igniter and wiring to it or run direct wire from key to starter and see if this will help.

markmdz89hatch
06-30-2009, 06:18 AM
nah man I'm just playing. I have some clothes designated for 'garage clothes' and they all look like that if not worse.

Keep up the work man, you're right there, just need to button up a few small things and she's off to the races.

MessyHonda
07-02-2009, 12:03 AM
hope that a20 does not let you down

2ndGenGuy
07-02-2009, 11:33 AM
Well, I'm glad you made some progress on your car! At least the starter turns over now. Now if it's not starting, back to the basics, fuel and spark.

markmdz89hatch
07-02-2009, 11:35 AM
except not only does it start, but it runs. So fuel and spark should be good. I'm pointing my finger at electrical.

2ndGenGuy
07-02-2009, 03:11 PM
Oh it runs now? Well what's wrong then?

MessyHonda
07-02-2009, 06:20 PM
Oh it runs now? Well what's wrong then?

he said it wont turn on from the ignition

Tomisimo
07-03-2009, 09:38 AM
Yes the engine runs, only timing is off. need to find that sweet spot.
But yes it want start with the ignition key. Still no Idea what could cause the problem. My last reserve is to run direct wire from ignition key to starter motor.

Tomisimo
08-01-2009, 05:52 AM
I guess its time for a little update here.. Been busy last 2 weeks so didnt had the time to work on it until now..
So far done, Engine tuned, timing is spot on now.
Changed shocks, now its 50/40mm lowered.. looks sexy
figured around my starting problem. I bypassed tru switch.
and some other mix stuff, havent driven her yet but I plan on it today.
Well here are some pics.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde001-2.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde006-2.jpg
Guess what this is for? You guest it, its a starter switch. Works only when key is on 2 position. I used headlamps washer button.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde008-2.jpg
my very short shift
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde009-2.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde011-2.jpg
I had to rice her up a bit with these
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde003-2.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde010-2.jpg
and I LoL'd at this
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde0011.jpg

Well I still have to take her for a spin and wash her and will be doing a photoshoot, I find my neighborhood boring for pics.

Tomisimo
08-01-2009, 09:29 AM
God I missed my car, here is why :D
goes lik a bullet, it refuse to go under 90km/h or 55 in your terms.
Well I tried to drive, film and shift gears at once so dont be scared when it seems and sounds like I'm of the road and crushed and 3geezus came down for me.. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9G--QQsRFE
and my start button..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiOsmRb5Htc
I love this thing.. like a little boy, was plaing all day with it..

Nafs Asdf
08-01-2009, 12:38 PM
Nice! :D

Love that starter button, kinda works like an anti-theft device too if you don't know it's there.

Yeah you need to get some more pics up when you wash it, and lol at the Kiwi rush rims.

Tomisimo
08-06-2009, 03:49 AM
I guess I add it here.. I had my spark plug broken inside the head, BAD LUCK I say, but nothing to worry about, have to fix that now. How I dont really sure yet. I have 3 options
*1 Change the head
*2 bore it out (but glass chips will fall inside, need take the head off anyway)
*3 Weld a Nut on it and try.

Well Thats what shady mechanics do when they f*ck threads inside the head and dont tall you about it. I never changed plugs on this engine so its not me who broke threads, that caused that madness and nightmares for me.

here is pics
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/Bilde004.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/Bilde005.jpg
see on the second pic? those threads are also ruined so, need to be careful as I dont have Hali-Coil to retread it again..
And its part a bad design to the head from honda, as Cylinder one has less space to reach to the plug than other 3 do. As you all know, its 2 types of Spark Plug design, one use small nut, the other use big nut. Well those heads designed for small type. and I bout big Nut type plugs..

Tomisimo
08-15-2009, 09:32 AM
Well lill update here..
I have a power lose in corners and hard braking, I found out why.. Well my Gas filler tube is rusted and there is good deal of rust inside the tank, I few days ago swapped fule pump from my parts car and now its full with rust particles. and I drained all gas out the tank and find thick layer of mud there.. it sucks as Now I have to swap out tanks. what a bitch job that is.. lots of tubes and hoses. but anyhow. Pics will be later. today..

Tomisimo
08-15-2009, 10:12 AM
Take a tour in my gas tank..

Here an old Fuel pump
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde011.jpg
New fuel pump (after 2 days inside)
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde002.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde003.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde004.jpg
Inside the tank
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde005.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde006.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde007.jpg
and that is why, inside filler tube is rusted
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde008.jpg
and someone found that it will be good idea to mold it in fiberglass..
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde009.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde010.jpg
Now If I touch it I need to mold it or weld it.. Well I dont have any choice but to mold it as I dont have new panels and welding machine here..

Hash_man_Se_i
08-15-2009, 10:21 AM
^^^ Yikes, thats kind of scary... lots of rust there... not such a good thing in the fuel system.... I would imagine you will also want to change your fuel filter after you change that out too.

Tomisimo
08-15-2009, 10:29 AM
Yes will do that too.. only problem now is to take down the tank.. there are just to much hoses and clams, dont want to cut anything..
will be ordering new fuel filter and change that also..

Ichiban
08-15-2009, 02:16 PM
There's lots of water in there. Time to flush the tank out well, and maybe re-evaluate your gas station.

Tomisimo
08-16-2009, 10:32 AM
Done som progress today..
took down Gas tank off my Gray Accord with filler tube, cleaned it and resprayed with the Tank.
Before
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde000-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde001-1.jpg
After
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde002-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde003-1.jpg
took some time to get old tank out mostly because all bolts were so rusted that I had to use undersize wrenches to unbolt them.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde007-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde006-1.jpg
see^^ the mount rotten away.
Then I cleaned under lid, got rid off old filler and resprayed it, masked from behind and will be filling it out later with more body filer. Have no choice but to do this. Will be redoing this later on, when I go loose on rust.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde004-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde009-1.jpg

Rendon LX-i
08-16-2009, 10:36 AM
very nice man.....clean work

Tomisimo
08-16-2009, 10:37 AM
Out with old, Inn withe new :D
It makes me smile just to look at it!!
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde010-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde011-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde012.jpg

Ouh and I also scraped rust with metal brush and sprayed it over with black, just to keep moisture out for few more months. as you all know that when rust gets thick it keep moisture inside longer and there by rust more..
Dont have finish pictures but progress is here
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde005-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Underneath/Bilde008-1.jpg

Tomisimo
08-16-2009, 10:40 AM
thanks Randon, I try to be that way :D

carotman
08-16-2009, 12:52 PM
You can get a replacement fuel filler area directly from Honda. They're cheap too. You just need to remove the old one and glue the new one in.

thegreatdane
08-16-2009, 01:51 PM
^^Unfortunately replacing it is not that easy though since it is in between the quarter panel and the inner fender and there are also welds holding it to the quarter panel. It is easiest to do if you are replacing the quarter panel at the same time.


Tom, werent the 2 bolts holding the tank straps a cunt to remove? They always tend to be so rusted that they snap when you start turning the nuts. I hate those 2 bolts lol.
Good thing you got the other fuel tank mounted. Looks like you've been playing around with a rear wheel arch replacement panel on that left side? Or is the marker scratch just an accident? :)

Tomisimo
08-16-2009, 02:38 PM
You can get a replacement fuel filler area directly from Honda. They're cheap too. You just need to remove the old one and glue the new one in.

Yes, I was looking to get that, but my problem is that I need to replace whole quarter panel anyways, my wheel arches are gone, its nothing more than body filler hold those looks.. and inner fender will be needing to be replaced as well.

What I was thinking to do is to use liquid metal filler with my fingers, first thin layer, let it harden, then again and again to build a wall, not to much not to little. and I will use my spare engine nuts that are rounded on top to cover those 3 bolts there.. and dont fill over them like it was before. I will need those later, so filler dont going to go over the edge but to the edge.

Problem begore was that the filler tube was holding to rubber hoses at the tank side and filler under the lid, because mount was rotten away, but now its stands firm and really I dont need to fill anything, I will do that simply cosmetic and to keep moisture out and gas to sip under the wheelarch..

Tomisimo
08-16-2009, 02:44 PM
Tom, werent the 2 bolts holding the tank straps a cunt to remove? They always tend to be so rusted that they snap when you start turning the nuts. I hate those 2 bolts lol.
Good thing you got the other fuel tank mounted. Looks like you've been playing around with a rear wheel arch replacement panel on that left side? Or is the marker scratch just an accident? :)

Indeed Marthin, luckily on my gray accort there was so much protective oil there that rust didnt got to those, but on this Black one I snapped one on drivers side, so I replaced it with from my gray car, and I lube those good begore turning. but the left side was stubern and snapped.. But I did have bent that hole that that long bolt slides in, on both sides.
And no, that wasnt me playing with that left quarter panel, it was previous owner that left masking tape edges.. I was thinking to wet sand it and respray it like it sud be and clear on top and wet sand it again mo blend it in abit.. both sides are like this :(

Tomisimo
08-31-2009, 06:36 AM
I had to move so I pack my things and moved out of my apartment, but luckily I cud rent a wood house to store my thing as I cant take everything with me..

Here is the engine, I moved it inside, for a bitch job that is to lift that 220kilo engine inside all by my self.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde004-3.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde005-5.jpg
And they came for my car.. R.I.P my beloved Accord :(
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Bilde006-4.jpg
You can see that rear crossmember with everything is loose, I kept it, Will be swapping it on my Black accord, and front assembly as well. Engine bay cleaned out of all wires, motors, hoses and stuff, completely stripped down. Well only brown interior and coupe wiring that was left in it...

MessyHonda
08-31-2009, 11:43 PM
wow kinda sad that you could not keep both

AccordB20A
09-01-2009, 03:32 AM
as long as you removed all the good bits from it

Tomisimo
09-01-2009, 03:38 AM
Ouh yea Aaron, I removed the meet and all tasty legs and all lol..
Yeah took out almost everything, besides wiring and interior.


wow kinda sad that you could not keep both
Word.. ehh well

b20a86lude
09-01-2009, 02:32 PM
holy cow beautifiul gas tank restro

Spectro
09-07-2009, 04:40 PM
really awesome :D
i have one accord u can get me any info or spec about my car? thnk
year 89 carburated japan ex

Tomisimo
09-08-2009, 12:54 AM
really awesome :D
i have one accord u can get me any info or spec about my car? thnk
year 89 carburated japan ex

it basically the same as LX accord, if you have power windows and things like that, if not than its as same as DX Accord.. only difference in JDM/RDM compared to USDM is that we have mounted head lights, they have flip-up. and thats about it.. ouh and My Accord were also made in japan..

One thingh tho, that spoiler?!? Take it off, its not a Subaru!!!

hondafiend
11-21-2009, 12:32 PM
Hey man keep up the good work on the car, it looks great! I really wish we had those headlights/front ends in the States, i absolutely love them. Its cool though, i still like the pop up headlights too.

Tomisimo
11-30-2009, 01:41 PM
OMG Updates :D

Alright guys, was lill while since I updated here.
I was working for some company that works with Stainless Steel for 2 weeks as a welder, so I used my sunday to build me my own custom towerbar.
Its made of 2x4cm SS pipe with 4mm thick mounts.

First I had to make mounts, it took some time but I figured it out eventually
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka010.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka008.jpg
Then it was time for the bar it self, I spent some time trying different styles and here what I come up with
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka011.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka012.jpg
Boxed it in
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka013.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka014.jpg
And finally done
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka015.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka016.jpg
Just for kicks
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka009.jpg

Tomisimo
11-30-2009, 01:42 PM
The next day I cleaned it with acid we use for stainless, or it will rust, because heat from welding disturb its properties. So it looks nice and clean after treat.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka033.jpg
http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/?action=view&current=Fotka032.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka031.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka030.jpg
and on the car. It really made difference
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka034.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka035.jpg

All TIG welded and Custom build

Pico
11-30-2009, 07:17 PM
Looks good Tom, but one question. Shouldnt the bar be somewhat straight to tighten lessen up the flex between the strut towers

Tdurr
11-30-2009, 07:33 PM
cut me two of the lil strut tower parts and ship them to me. I can get the rest made from there :D

btw i dont feel like looking further back in the thread lol

dacantu
11-30-2009, 08:17 PM
Nice strut bar Tom. Good work with that and the gas tank. Any pictures of your car with the newly restored winter wheels on?

Tomisimo
12-01-2009, 12:29 AM
Looks good Tom, but one question. Shouldnt the bar be somewhat straight to tighten lessen up the flex between the strut towers

logically yes, but in Protagoras formula says if all corners are equal to each other the force have to distribute equally. so it is stiff and do tighten up flex, believe me, the day I put it on, I noticed a big difference in sharpness of steering.


cut me two of the lil strut tower parts and ship them to me. I can get the rest made from there

btw i dont feel like looking further back in the thread lol

You lazy ass, now, read the thread before you post lol :P Jk
Sry may but I dont work there anymore, they had this type of SS pipe in store so I cant made more of these.



Nice strut bar Tom. Good work with that and the gas tank. Any pictures of your car with the newly restored winter wheels on?

Thanks and no I dont have any pics with those on my car and it never will be, because they dont fit my car. those are 4x108 not 4x100 like they should be. so they are up for sale now :(

Nafs Asdf
12-01-2009, 12:34 AM
Nice work! :)

Strut bar looks a bit clunky, but I suppose from over function right? Maybe you should paint it black, would blend in better.

edit: And put one of those 3geez emblems from Mark's group buy on it :D

Too bad on those wheels. :(
Hope you'll at least be able to make a profit on selling them.

MessyHonda
12-01-2009, 12:45 AM
nice...does it clear the hood? haha

Tomisimo
12-01-2009, 05:14 AM
Messy what do you take me for? a amateur? lol.. It clears the hood just fine :D

Naf's, yes it a shame that wheels didnt fit but ehh well, Itake it as an learning experience. Yea you right it looks abit clunky, I was thinking to redo mounts later on, They didnt had mill so I cudent engrave nut holes so I had to do it to fit inside the triangle.

dacantu
12-01-2009, 08:30 AM
Hey tom that is too bad about your wheels im just wondering did you not think about the bolt pattern before doing all tge work? I also think i saw somewhere that wheels can have a second bolt pattern if you drill it correctly. You should consider it

MessyHonda
12-01-2009, 07:39 PM
Messy what do you take me for? a amateur? lol.. It clears the hood just fine :D

Naf's, yes it a shame that wheels didnt fit but ehh well, Itake it as an learning experience. Yea you right it looks abit clunky, I was thinking to redo mounts later on, They didnt had mill so I cudent engrave nut holes so I had to do it to fit inside the triangle.

im just saying because i have a b16 mani and my dc strut bar did not fit...so i wanted to raise the bar a bit but i was worried it might not clear the hood

Tomisimo
12-01-2009, 10:56 PM
im just saying because i have a b16 mani and my dc strut bar did not fit...so i wanted to raise the bar a bit but i was worried it might not clear the hood

This is the main reason I made it like that, more to the firewall so it will clear B16 mani :)

thegreatdane
12-03-2009, 01:10 PM
Yay fabrication! :) Looks like nice work.
I think you may want to add some reinforcement to the brackets though. Instead of 2 vertical flat steel plates I would add a 3rd that braces the 2 together. I'm worried you will have some flex otherwise due to your brackets pointing 45 degrees toward the rear of the car instead of pointing directly towards the opposite strut tower and at the same time being fairly thin steel pointing up high.

Oh man, bummer about those wheels!! Things like that makes you want to kick yourself in the nuts lol. Too bad the ET is as low as it is, otherwise you would have been able to use a PCD adapter/spacer. I think the smallest spacer is 15mm. Subtract that from your ET and you get (was it ET25?) 25mm-15mm = ET10 :omg:

Btw, you've become a moderator? When why what? :)

Civic Accord Honda
12-03-2009, 04:01 PM
Looks good man nice work!

Tomisimo
12-06-2009, 04:35 AM
Yay fabrication! :) Looks like nice work.
I think you may want to add some reinforcement to the brackets though. Instead of 2 vertical flat steel plates I would add a 3rd that braces the 2 together. I'm worried you will have some flex otherwise due to your brackets pointing 45 degrees toward the rear of the car instead of pointing directly towards the opposite strut tower and at the same time being fairly thin steel pointing up high.

Oh man, bummer about those wheels!! Things like that makes you want to kick yourself in the nuts lol. Too bad the ET is as low as it is, otherwise you would have been able to use a PCD adapter/spacer. I think the smallest spacer is 15mm. Subtract that from your ET and you get (was it ET25?) 25mm-15mm = ET10 :omg:

Btw, you've become a moderator? When why what? :)


Yea I was thinking to box it in, with small plate on the back side but I forgot about it and had little time that weekend. But I do that later I think.. Anyway it did improve stiffness tho.


About those wheels, they are et37 and adapter would be a great idea but I alreaddy bout me a set of new winter tires on 14". So I was thinking to find some old BBS wheels of some sort, and use those.. Car looks depressed on those steelies. Maybe I can use them as summer tires then if I dont get 17", idk.

edit: About my Mod position, well the Project forum was my idea and I was a great help to organize this setup, I was asked so I cudent say no to that.. It was my dream since 2006, I finally made it :D

thegreatdane
12-06-2009, 12:02 PM
Hehe well then congrats! Dont let it eat you up :)
ET37, hmm if you get some 195 tires and the 15mm PCD adapter you should be able to just clear the fenders. Just letting you know it's still doable to make those wheels work. Would be a shame if you never got too see your hard work paying off having them on the car, at least just to see if you like the look or not.

Tomisimo
12-06-2009, 03:34 PM
to bad. I probably never gona see those wheels on my car, one guy called me today and asked for a price of shipping and more details on offset and such.. maybe they be gone soon.. I really hate it but I'm a optimist, at least I learned great deal from them and can take on any wheels later on, know what tools work best and methods, materials and so on.. Never beat my self up for anything I ;)

Tdurr
12-06-2009, 08:21 PM
blah!! send me the specs on the plates then, ill get some made here at the school then...hehe...

A20A1
01-09-2010, 04:47 PM
I like your tower brace.


here is a site I found for structural engineering. I haven't looked through it thoroughly yet though.
http://www.xcalcs.com/cgi-bin/tutti/x2calcs.cgi?d=istr_.htm%26l=en

http://www.engineersedge.com/beam_calc_menu.shtml

Tomisimo
01-20-2010, 08:38 AM
as you guys already know I sold my wheels that I refurbished. So I decided to use my standard 14" wheels, but first I resprayed them white.
here some update pics for you, nothing muckh, mainly because I dont have a camera besides on my cellphone.
theese are after I washed them.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka000.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka005.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka004.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka001.jpg
And here are finished product.. Nothing big.. just respray.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/SP_A0058.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/SP_A0059.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/SP_A0060.jpg
and all four on.. It was getting dark so I gave up on taking more pics.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/SP_A0061.jpg
I'll take more detailed pics later on, days are shotr around here this time of year.

2ndGenGuy
01-20-2010, 08:46 AM
Too bad about your other wheels, but those look pretty sweet!

Tomisimo
01-20-2010, 09:12 AM
yea, it is :( but these have to do for now, untill I find something more attractive. Looking for Golf GTi Mk1 BBS wheels..

Nafs Asdf
01-20-2010, 09:21 AM
White wheels has my approval :D

Mellexx
01-21-2010, 06:32 AM
white looks good though :D

markmdz89hatch
01-21-2010, 07:02 AM
i like 'em. I agree with John, they're not the black/gold flake wheels, but they do look good.

those are some SERIOUS winter tires there. Studs and all.

Tomisimo
01-21-2010, 08:53 AM
I took some better pics as promised. Now in full daylight..
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/SP_A0062.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/SP_A0063.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/SP_A0064.jpg
http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/SP_A0065.jpg

Not what I wanted but better than black steelies

Tomisimo
01-21-2010, 08:55 AM
i like 'em. I agree with John, they're not the black/gold flake wheels, but they do look good.

those are some SERIOUS winter tires there. Studs and all.

hehe, yea those are hakka 4, brand new tires, do grip, thats the first time I felt G-force in the corners on ice ever...

MessyHonda
01-23-2010, 01:45 AM
yeah i like the way it turned out

Tomisimo
02-21-2010, 11:52 AM
Few weeks back I did some work on my car.. Replaced Alternator along with new serpentine belt. I dont have any pictures about the job being done.

And replaced inner and outer Tie Rod Ends on both sides. Was relatively easy fix, besides that washer that holds inner nut in fixed position.
I'll do a lill write up, so maybe someone will benefit from this.

First of, removed the nut with the pin at Boll Joint, then moved to rubber boot, removed locking ring and slide it off steering rack.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/3Geez/Fotka000.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/3Geez/Fotka002.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/3Geez/Fotka001.jpg

Before you push ball joint out loosened tie rod end's locking nut.
Then to make it easier on my self I used special tool to push tie rod end out
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/3Geez/Fotka004.jpg

a tip: The inner Tie Rod will have to be bolted to the end anyways so, if you dont have access to Alignment tools, you can count down number of rotations you did unscrewing Outer Tie Rod End. That way you'll sett new parts roughly in the same place for right wheel alignment. You dont want it to drag to one side when you driving it later.

Then I used a flat screw driver, of small size to get under the washer that was flattened around the nut. once I did that, it was just to loosen it unbolt it.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/3Geez/Fotka0051-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/3Geez/Fotka0061-1.jpg

Then the Inner was in and I flattened sides on the new washer.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/3Geez/Fotka0071-1.jpg

Then it was all putting it back together, just traced back all steps taking it apart

Job done
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/3Geez/Fotka008.jpg

Whole job took me 3 hours to do so I had more time to do my custom numberplate mount for my extra Driving Lights..

ShyBoyCA6
02-21-2010, 01:02 PM
um Tomisimo what kind of accord do you have and did you do the light conversion??

Tomisimo
02-21-2010, 01:49 PM
Its a EDM/JDM type Accord with fixed head lights. Was mostly sold in Europe.
only Aerodecks was with flip up lights here..

Mine is original B20a2 Black/grey interior.

ShyBoyCA6
02-21-2010, 01:56 PM
damn wish i had one of those. its sucks that they dont sell them here in cali.

Tomisimo
04-25-2010, 02:14 PM
Bump

small updates..

I've got a great deal on wheels I just cudnt pass , got wheels alone for something about 50$ each, brand new and they look good on the car. So I spent some money and bout them.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/SP_A0191.jpg
Here is me truing them on, we didnt knew exact eta on them so we just test fitted them.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka012-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka017.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka016-1.jpg
Fits nice, so I ordered tires. Here are they on the car.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka0061.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka0071.jpg
And some random pics
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka0161.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka0181.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka0211.jpg
high above sea level.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/Fotka019.jpg

ShyBoyCA6
04-25-2010, 02:18 PM
nice the accord looks more sporty looking and sick i love it ima have to :bow: to your car tomisimo

A18A
04-25-2010, 02:41 PM
niiiccee, now itsl ooking real good

carotman
04-25-2010, 02:52 PM
Looks good!

What springs do you have?

MessyHonda
04-25-2010, 03:58 PM
looks good

Tdurr
04-25-2010, 04:24 PM
omfg i hate you. i want those rims.

Tomisimo
04-26-2010, 12:55 AM
Thanks guys :) I have idea to make them look even better, but all in its own time ;)

springs, they are B&G springs on KYB's, linear rate, I dont like them actually, they bounce on humpy roads.

and. I Love Haters :D

Nafs Asdf
04-26-2010, 01:10 AM
Nice!

Car needs a wash tho ;)

AccordB20A
04-26-2010, 01:13 AM
looks good dude!! man i havent been in your update thread for a while stuff has changed y0

Tomisimo
04-27-2010, 08:41 AM
its clean now :)

I was traveling about 600mils last weekend, thats why it was dirty.

Thanks Aaron, Iand I need to talk to you ASAP...

2ndGenGuy
04-27-2010, 09:18 AM
Damn dude! That looks hot! Love those tunnel pics too, that's amazing looking!

Tdurr
04-27-2010, 12:39 PM
and. I Love Haters :D

i love you too! lol

2oodoor
04-27-2010, 01:04 PM
oh emm gee:omg: I love this car

bullard123
04-27-2010, 06:56 PM
Looking good! I like the way the new rims look on it

alberto
12-16-2010, 05:00 AM
Hey guys wear can I get tail lights like Tomisimo in the U.S.?
Oh and do I need that trunk two?

Tomisimo
12-16-2010, 12:32 PM
No you dont need the trunk, all you need is this.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/Tomisimo/My%20Honda/22022007038.jpg

forrest89sei
12-16-2010, 05:15 PM
Hey guys wear can I get tail lights like Tomisimo in the U.S.?
Oh and do I need that trunk two?

That style of light Would require a 1986-87 Trunk Do to the mounting locations, I'm pretty sure...

A18A
12-16-2010, 06:15 PM
Correct.

Tomisimo
12-18-2010, 06:31 AM
Aaah yes, the key hole is more to the inside. indeed

A18A
12-18-2010, 02:07 PM
so.... any new pics? :D

AccordB20A
01-14-2011, 12:25 PM
whats happening now??

Tomisimo
01-15-2011, 04:25 AM
No not currently, car sits in the snow, all frozen up. Waiting for budget :)

MessyHonda
01-17-2011, 12:10 AM
i hope its back to running soon...same with my b20

Fedor B.
02-06-2011, 04:26 AM
Are your front bumper lights in the 'wrong' way?
I thought the light sould be on the outside and the blinker on the inside, like with Nafs Asdf?

Nafs Asdf
02-06-2011, 11:04 AM
I think the way they're on mine is the 'correct' way, but they mount both ways and I've even seen ones with them both the same way :P

Actually on mine I think I have two right ones, the other is just mounted upside down.

Tomisimo
02-06-2011, 10:59 PM
Yes.. mine are mounted the other way around. Kinda feel it looks better and more functional. indicators sud be on the outsides.. But I really dont like those at ll, I want USDM 88/89 ones there. and JDM corners for indicators.

charliekuney
02-06-2011, 11:03 PM
^ I agree. They look much better with the turn signals on the outside.

Fedor B.
02-10-2011, 08:45 AM
I did mine with the lights on the outside.
Makes the car look wider in dark.
Everyone their own taste...

AccordB20A
06-04-2011, 03:40 PM
long time no update? whats happening

Tomisimo
02-08-2012, 07:29 AM
Hei guys. Long time no update here.

The cat is moved to stay in a barn outside of the city, but I was thinking this winter. I have 2 part cars, one on wheels, the other one in parts. I was exploring my options and wonder if I just buy an Aerodeck and start to build on it instead? Lets face it, Aerodeck looks cool, sedan looks abit boring and need much more detailing for it to look good. The black car need alot of rust welding anyway.

Fedor B.
02-10-2012, 11:36 AM
Edited: :d

That sounds like a good plan.
Maybe you could buy the one from ...., or even better, save one yourselves.

Aero's are worth saving!
___________________
Sush ;)

obdriver6
02-10-2012, 12:03 PM
Sounds really good! I would love to see another aerodeck!

Tomisimo
02-11-2012, 07:42 AM
I really burning for a Coupe actually, so its desided. but a big one BUT, I still thinking to get Aero, and make something cool. aLa'Midenginedsixcilinder race track blaster.:naughty: