fastest 3g?

[Nik247]

i know this is not really a performance question but i was curious how fast have ppl modded up 3g's can i get hp, torque and times pls

[lostforawhile]

i know this is not really a performance question but i was curious how fast have ppl modded up 3g's can i get hp, torque and times pls
johnny O would have the fastest but it's a drag car, he was in the 10's with the a20 block, now he's running the h22 ,he pretty much has it locked up.

[markmdz89hatch]

and as for street cars, I think Dennis takes that trophy with a fully street legal, full interior hatch with a boosted A20. Wasn't he somewhere near 300hp at the wheels?

[Nik247]

damn on the a20??? wow i didnt know it could be that powerful boosted i expected 230ish not 300 what kind of setup does he have?

[2drSE-i]

Lets not forget wickedaccord with his bseries 400whp monster.

[RobT5580]

I was around the 300WHP mark on a JDM B20A but no dyno to back it up as of yet.

There are a few accords floating around with decent power! I can't remember if Justin Ballou ever dynoed his but i would guess he was in the 300whp range with his setup.

[Nik247]

who has the best set up on the a20? im tired of ppl tellin me to sell the car or do an engine swap cuz the a20 sucks i know it does but i want to make mine bad ass

[lostforawhile]

who has the best set up on the a20? im tired of ppl tellin me to sell the car or do an engine swap cuz the a20 sucks i know it does but i want to make mine bad ass
do some searching on the turbo setups. for those who tell you these suck,they are built a lot stronger then a lot of newer honda stuff. also no replacment for displacement, these were the biggest motors until the v6 came out. they used to be a popular swap into 1st and second gen civics. would make a hell of a fast car. I remember there was a company in Atlanta that used to make an entire swap kit to drop a FI a20 into an 81-83 civic, mounts,wiring harnesses, exaust components,entire deal. those were the good old days.

[russ_512]

who has the best set up on the a20? im tired of ppl tellin me to sell the car or do an engine swap cuz the a20 sucks i know it does but i want to make mine bad ass

i with you i get tired of hearing sell your accord, get a civic, your car has no aftermarket support, its old, and me being all like shut up bitch i likes my shit

[lostforawhile]

i with you i get tired of hearing sell your accord, get a civic, your car has no aftermarket support, its old, and me being all like shut up bitch i likes my shit

may be old and slow but it's better then it being the same as 10000000 identical civics with the same parts,at least it has style.

[russ_512]

^^ o yea

[accordion89]

lol, i toped mine out at 120 with a 100hp, not smart but whatev

[Bass Man]

Wow... I couldn't go more than 105 even with a weber... It got to 80 really fast, but it didn't have much about that.

[accordion89]

? maybe i just push it, stock 120, with luggage and a passenger,
it was in montana

[MessyHonda]

yeah i think dennis does take the cake but he has been building his hatch for a while now

[Nik247]

may be old and slow but it's better then it being the same as 10000000 identical civics with the same parts,at least it has style.

lol ya i agree with ur statement

[Nik247]

and one thing the 3g has is freakin flip up headlights!!!!!!!!!!! if u dont like em u shouldnt be near the 3g :werd::Owned2:

[Nafs Asdf]

and one thing the 3g has is freakin flip up headlights!!!!!!!!!!! if u dont like em u shouldnt be near the 3g :werd::Owned2:

Not around here it doesn't. :eek5:

[markmdz89hatch]

Not around here it doesn't. :eek5:

at least not for the sedans, but still holds true for the A-decks.

[Tomisimo]

yes, 3Gee FTW. A20 is a strong powerplant, first of all its a steel block so it can handle some torque, and with decent high CR pistons and rods, and a great turbo hybrid T3/T4 compressor, you up in 300Hp range. Stand alone or OBD1 is best, but it all finish touches and you have a sleeper.

[Civic Accord Honda]

may be old and slow but it's better then it being the same as 10000000 identical civics with the same parts,at least it has style.

that is exactly why i gave my 91 civic to my parrents... fucking a everybody has done the same thing on it a million times so it then becomes boring..anything you do to it someone else will have already done it before multiple times.

and i wish i could find an a20a swap kit for my 81 :( my a20a block is getting sad sitting in the shed

[Bass Man]

yes, 3Gee FTW. A20 is a strong powerplant, first of all its a steel block so it can handle some torque, and with decent high CR pistons and rods, and a great turbo hybrid T3/T4 compressor, you up in 300Hp range. Stand alone or OBD1 is best, but it all finish touches and you have a sleeper.
High CR? Thought you wanted a LOW Compression ratio.

[Tomisimo]

Why you want low compression pistons? with original CR 9.5:1 on A20a4 engine is 122Hp. on A20a3 is 8.5:1 CR and its 112Hp. with 11.5/12:1 CR you'll get maybe 135Hp from stock engine. and not least High CR pistons means Custom forged pistons..

[markmdz89hatch]

that's the age-old question when you're talking about boosting. Many (ok, most) boosted setups use lower c/r because the tolerances are greater and there's less potential for the big bang when you spin the thing to 7.5K or more. The lower c/r pistons are offset by the power generated from the turbo. ...but yeah, higher c/r base with boost will net more raw power, and more power under boost, but you have to be more careful with your a/f ratio and how high you spin it, otherwise... ...well you know.

[Rendon LX-i]

my buddy blew his h22 since he had 11.1 je's and wow she went but crappy tune she blew in a couple of weeks

[87accorddx804]

so wat pistons should i get if i boost my accord and wat would i need when i convert it to fuel injection

[JFern]

i with you i get tired of hearing sell your accord, get a civic, your car has no aftermarket support, its old, and me being all like shut up bitch i likes my shit

haha, shut up bitch i like my shit!... classic.... every car i have built has had almost no aftermarket support, building engine mounts, fabricating serpentine belt systems and suspension parts and figuring out how to put together a car with different parts in general is part of the fun for me (fun being loosley used since some of this can be quite frustrating).

oh and i am getting pretty tired of my friends and others with their evo's, sti's, and eagle talon whatevers telling me to get rid of my car, and you know why? because everytime i build a new car, its a sleeper that nobody expects to win (and than i win a bunch of money hustling people) and they are tired of me building cars to kick their ass. if i wanted fast i would just go out and buy a fast car

[JFern]

does anybody know any numbers for the breaking point on the lower end? i am considering doing a turbo set-up for now until i swap because found some parts for pretty cheap, i was going to go small and just get some LC piston and a small turbo (7-8psi) and shoot for the 150 - 200 hp range

but if i go big, assuming i can keep a handle on my a/f ratio, how much can these motors handle as far as torque goes? i don't want to snap rods or cranks anytime soon, Thanks!

[Tdurr]

^^ rods are the weak point. i forget what other rods we could use.

[MessyHonda]

^^ rods are the weak point. i forget what other rods we could use.

b18 ls rods but you are going to have to bore out the pin hole in the piston

[ChaseR]

yes, 3Gee FTW. A20 is a strong powerplant, first of all its a steel block so it can handle some torque, and with decent high CR pistons and rods, and a great turbo hybrid T3/T4 compressor, you up in 300Hp range. Stand alone or OBD1 is best, but it all finish touches and you have a sleeper.

Steel block? Should be iron

[2drSE-i]

Steel block? Should be iron

yea its cast iron.


And on the boring out the pin holes, i wouldn't bother. Get some 83mm (or larger if your bored that much) from a B16. This would require a .3mm bore over stock, but you probably need a little bit of a bore anyway.

[AccordEpicenter]

the rods arent the weak link, its def the pistons. Ive hit 17psi a handful of times on the stock motor but it lived just fine at 13psi boost. when i pulled the motor apart the pistons looked pretty good still. The rods only become the weak link if you start revving over 7k, but then so does the head/valvesprings etc. If you have a good tune the motor will live just fine at prolly 225-250whp, it depends how good the tune is. You can run high compression and boost but the tune becomes very critical and there is a very narrow margin for any kind of detonation. Going below 9:1 CR for boost is worthless, theres just no point.