what brand of rod bearings does 3geez use?

[1987AccordLx-i]

im looking to get a set of rod bearings but idk what brands are good..

theres one that has the brand "Altrom" and the one im familiar with which is "Sealed Power" which one is better? opinions?

[Rendon LX-i]

get honda oem bearings

[Rendon LX-i]

Thats what i used and i never had a problem.

[1987AccordLx-i]

get honda oem bearings

i aint got that much money rendon.. i just need something to hold me off for a few months til i can afford to rebuild the engine

[Civic Accord Honda]

botom end problems again!?!?! :(

but yeah defianly save up for the honda ones

[1987AccordLx-i]

botom end problems again!?!?! :(

but yeah defianly save up for the honda ones

not really... bought the car with a slight rod knock.. and i dont wanna push it too far this time..

[Civic Accord Honda]

did u do a compression test yet?

[1987AccordLx-i]

did u do a compression test yet?

havnt really done anything man.. im trying to repair the emissions system so i can pass smog (stupid california law) then i can start testing and making sure things are good on it..

[cygnus x-1]

Altrom is a big parts supplier that makes replacement parts for tons of cars. Sealed Power is owned by Federal Mogul which also makes replacement parts for tons of cars. Either brand will be fine.

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[Ichiban]

I wasn't especially impressed with the bearings from Altrom for my 22R. Even though the crank was within spec, the bearings plastigaged out at .002" clearance on the rods, and at .0025-.003" on the mains. The rods should have had .001-.0015 and the mains about .001. According to the automotive machinist I was dealing with, the aftermarket makes the clearances sloppy so they don't have to hold as high a production tolerance, and still avoid having a "tight" bearing.

[Civic Accord Honda]

havnt really done anything man.. im trying to repair the emissions system so i can pass smog (stupid california law) then i can start testing and making sure things are good on it..

well if your having problems passing smog defiantly do a compression test... if she has a knock there is a chance the compression is low and if the compression is low she wont pass smog..

[1987AccordLx-i]

well if your having problems passing smog defiantly do a compression test... if she has a knock there is a chance the compression is low and if the compression is low she wont pass smog..

well for sure i know the knock is from the rods.. but for the emissions.. my timing is at 28 degrees advanced... thats why they wont pass me.. i gotta bring it down to 15+/- 2

[1987AccordLx-i]

I wasn't especially impressed with the bearings from Altrom for my 22R. Even though the crank was within spec, the bearings plastigaged out at .002" clearance on the rods, and at .0025-.003" on the mains. The rods should have had .001-.0015 and the mains about .001. According to the automotive machinist I was dealing with, the aftermarket makes the clearances sloppy so they don't have to hold as high a production tolerance, and still avoid having a "tight" bearing.
mabe you had defective parts or the crank was ground prior to you owning it?


Altrom is a big parts supplier that makes replacement parts for tons of cars. Sealed Power is owned by Federal Mogul which also makes replacement parts for tons of cars. Either brand will be fine.

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cool, thanks c

[cygnus x-1]

I wasn't especially impressed with the bearings from Altrom for my 22R. Even though the crank was within spec, the bearings plastigaged out at .002" clearance on the rods, and at .0025-.003" on the mains. The rods should have had .001-.0015 and the mains about .001. According to the automotive machinist I was dealing with, the aftermarket makes the clearances sloppy so they don't have to hold as high a production tolerance, and still avoid having a "tight" bearing.


Interesting. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if aftermarket bearings were looser than Honda specs. FWIW I used Toga bearings during my rebuild and they gauged out fine. The crank checked out ok at the shop too. But that's why we use plastigauge at all, to make sure the final clearances are what we think they will be.

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[Rendon LX-i]

thats why i went with honda rod,crank, bearings, and rings also was alittle spendy. but thats why one of the reasons i haven blown....even with a crappy tune

shit even seals i replace by honda

[turabaka]

well for sure i know the knock is from the rods.. but for the emissions.. my timing is at 28 degrees advanced... thats why they wont pass me.. i gotta bring it down to 15+/- 2

I thought our timing was supposed to be set at 26 degrees or something like that. Why do you have to set your timing at 15 degrees?

[1987AccordLx-i]

I thought our timing was supposed to be set at 26 degrees or something like that. Why do you have to set your timing at 15 degrees?

idk man.. i have it set at 15 +/- with the vac advance disconnected... but the guy showed me a book and sure enough its supposed to be at 15 WITH the vac advance connected... wierd as hell but it makes sense

[cygnus x-1]

It depends on whether it's carbed or fuel injected. Carbed engines are supposed to be 22 +-2 BTDC. FI engines are I think 15 +-2. These are measured with the vacuum advance connected and the engine fully warmed up.

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[turabaka]

It depends on whether it's carbed or fuel injected. Carbed engines are supposed to be 22 +-2 BTDC. FI engines are I think 15 +-2. These are measured with the vacuum advance connected and the engine fully warmed up.

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gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up. It's been awhile since I've actually set my timing with a gun. Usually I just redneck tune it. Advance it till it pings then scale it back a bit.

[1987AccordLx-i]

It depends on whether it's carbed or fuel injected. Carbed engines are supposed to be 22 +-2 BTDC. FI engines are I think 15 +-2. These are measured with the vacuum advance connected and the engine fully warmed up.

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thanks for straightening the delema out c.. ive heard different things from different people.. some said its supposed to be at 15+/- with the vac disconnected