Woah 0_o Its been awhile

[halxi]

It's been awhile since I've stopped in here to catch up on some good old times. A lot has changed, I'll have to catch up with everything tomorrow (it's getting late, work early).

Crazy to think it's been 4years since I've had my 3g :( I still miss that car!



I've still got my civic, last August i blew up the H22 and ended up doing a complete rebuild on the motor, its now fully built all motor setup. Hoping to see 235-250 WHP and shooting for low 13's on slicks. Also shaved the engine bay, and did a full wire tuck on it. Did away with the heater core/blower motor, etc.

Heres a couple pics of it as it sits, mostly finished up. Still needs a few dress up/finishing touches, but it's ready to drive/tune as it sits.

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs126.snc1/5420_1107846209427_1024961649_30267164_882582_n.jp g

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http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs126.snc1/5420_1107846329430_1024961649_30267167_7850316_n.j pg

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[1ajs]

i remember u lol damn

[ghettogeddy]

could the intake be a lil bigger that cant be good for power

[Civic Accord Honda]

sexy! and holy hell huge intake! you steal that off a big rig?

[Hazwan]

Sweet! I <3 the paint and its an inspiration when I painted my car back then. And yeah that intake is :eek5:

[halxi]

could the intake be a lil bigger that cant be good for power

Should of given info on the motor i guess.

h23/vtec
h22 type s pistons (12.1:1 CR factory, in the h23 block it will net me nearly 13.0:1 CR)
fully built head consisting of:
P&P, milled 10 thousandths, Dual springs, retainers, oversized valves, crower stage 3 cams (half an inch of lift on these cams, hence, the intake) skunk 2 cam gears, etc.
Custom intake manifold, double stacked, ported/polished to hell, 70mm TB opening, 76mm TB
DSM 440 injectors, walbro 255lhp (the high output version), hondata s300, and will be tuning on E85 opposed to traditional gas

So needless to say, its a 4" intake to a 3" TB, at altitude i need to be bringing in all of the air i can get. Especially since I know i'll be able to get plenty of fuel through it. The piping will likely have to be extended, or cropped dependent on dyno numbers. Essentially just to see where I'm getting the smallest amount of turbulence, and the best air flow through the intake.

[ghettogeddy]

and its running open header that thing has to be loud

[halxi]

http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/Hondar/Rebuild/Part2/0627091915.3g2

:eatarrow:


At idle, shit quality (cell phone)


its not much of a street car anymore

[ghettogeddy]

what the hell do you play a 3g2 file in lol mp4 coding my friend

[SZfiftyfour]

^cell phone video file. I think quicktime will play it

edit: yup, quicktime.

[2drSE-i]

I have always loved that fuckin civic man. I actually don't hate the way that intake looks, and i also don't hate the way your exhaust exits the front bumper. Looks pretty good imo.

Fuck theaves indeed!

[ghettogeddy]

^cell phone video file. I think quicktime will play it

edit: yup, quicktime.

ya i found that out video lan played it but no sound and thats the most important lol and i wont install quiktime i hate that program

[wprocomp]

holy huge cam batman!

[Pico]

Good to see you on here, I remember you were selling your accord not too long after I joined the forum

[halxi]

Thanks guys, i must admit. I missed this place haha

[frantik]

:wave:

[MessyHonda]

hey....i remember you back in the day....your civic looks sick.....sweet motor....tune the shit out of it so it will last. how is the truck?

[Rendon LX-i]

oh damn i member you...nice work man...very fucking clean....speechless

[Hash_man_Se_i]

4years... Has it really been that long ? wow time flies... Civic looks good still, that motor setup is pretty rediculous, must be a blast to drive, however I don't know if I could handle the whole open header setup.

Good to see you stop in once in a while though.

[2drSE-i]

Ugh im jealous of cars with aftermarket support lmao.

[halxi]

hey....i remember you back in the day....your civic looks sick.....sweet motor....tune the shit out of it so it will last. how is the truck?

It's getting a good tune, but not expecting it to last more than a couple seasons really.

The truck has made some huge changes... well... i guess which one?

I had this one for a bit:
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/yota/10-14-07/5.jpg

Which then got in a hit/run, bent frame rails. Insurance paid me more for it than what i bought it for, so i let them total it.

Bought this (day of purchase):
00 tacoma, 4cyl, 5spd
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/yota/Taco/1.jpg
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/yota/Taco/2.jpg

Then it went through a few phases, heres the last pic before i got bored with it:
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/yota/1-17-09/5.jpg

Basically from purchase up until that pic i shortened up the bed 12" in the rear, 6" out of the frame (better departure angle), new/bigger tires, gears/lockers, body protection, etc.

Then i got a killer deal on a totaled 02 ext. cab with the 3.4 v6 through my work (body shop, still) and did this:
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/yota/3.4-cabswap/5.jpg

:ugh: whered it all go?

http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/yota/3.4-cabswap/EX1.jpg
mmmm more head room/cab space

http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/yota/3.4-cabswap/EN2.jpg
mmmm more power

As it sits now:
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/yota/Moab%2009/AZQ.jpg
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/yota/Moab%2009/AZR.jpg

Got lazy, gotta finish body work on the bed/tail gate and paint it. Then tub the cab to clear bigger tires and paint the cab corners.

Theres a TON of pics of progress through each step here, starting with the red truck up to now:
http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=115326

[cubert]

That header on the civic is a work of art..


And the truck is friggin badass

[2ndGenGuy]

Jesus man that is an awesome super shorty bed with the extended cab! Awesome!! :thumbup:

Nice Civic too. No wipers even! :eek5:

[3gmodifier]

good to see u back! and mad props on the current build. look clean

[halxi]

That header on the civic is a work of art..


Eric Racing, one off header.

Heres a better shot of it after i did some (a lot) of cleaning on it:
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/Hondar/Rebuild/Part2/2.jpg
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/Hondar/Rebuild/Part2/1.jpg

[MessyHonda]

that must be like 120db maybe even more at idle

[halxi]

that must be like 120db maybe even more at idle

Ehh not quite.

It's loud but its not 120db loud. Maybe if you're standing right over the pipe less than a foot from the car.

It's not TOO bad though. It's relatively streetable.

[halxi]

Got the car street tuned tonight, and my oh my does it pull.

My tuner has an all motor k24 integra that runs consistent 12.8/12.9 up here and says he fully expects to see the same from my car just based on the fuel curves in hondata, and how well it pulls.

Still have a few small bugs to get figured out, but everythings going smooth!

[labeledsk8r]

cars looking awsome man, mad props.

did you ever get that over heating problem taken care of that you used to have on the old engine?

[MessyHonda]

Got the car street tuned tonight, and my oh my does it pull.

My tuner has an all motor k24 integra that runs consistent 12.8/12.9 up here and says he fully expects to see the same from my car just based on the fuel curves in hondata, and how well it pulls.

Still have a few small bugs to get figured out, but everythings going smooth!

you going to get some dyno numbers?

[bobafett]

I'm digging that civic more every time you post it! :D keep up the good work...

[halxi]

you going to get some dyno numbers?

Not anymore, dyno day was planned for next weekend (not this coming). But thats not going to happen.

Fucking livid.

:chainsaw: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket:

is what i want to do to my car.

Dropped a valve tonight. Blew up the motor again. Bottom ends fucked too, crank locked up. Cyl 4 plug is trashed, chunks of various shit (piston, valve, etc.) got thrown out through the exhaust/intake manifold. Havent pulled the whole thing apart, but its destroyed.

:banghead: :banghead: :burn: :burn:

[MessyHonda]

dude...wtf....that sucks....who built the motor?

[halxi]

Pics:
Whats left of the rod/sleeve (surprisingly, the sleeve isnt cracked/broke)
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/Hondar/Motor2/1.jpg

Shards of valves, ringlands, rings, piston, rod, etc. etc. in cyl 1-3
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/Hondar/Motor2/2.jpg

What came out of the intake manifold
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/Hondar/Motor2/3.jpg

Whats left of the head (cyl 4)
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/Hondar/Motor2/4.jpg

Overall shot of the head, note the other bent ass valves, chunks of ringls, pistons, etc.
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/Hondar/Motor2/5.jpg

Motor/head was built at a shop in ohio, then i bought it from a local.

FINAL verdict after assessing the damage with a couple people is the wrist pin was not properly installed/specd when the type s pistons were installed on these rods. It created a weak link in the piston, and the piston let go of the rod.

[A18A]

holy shitting hell that's nasty :O

[MessyHonda]

dude...just stick an A series....it will last more than 40 miles

[87roach]

The oil seeping down looks like blood from a fresh kill.

That really sucks about the blow up, I was getting all excited because it was looking so good only for it to turn out like this =\

Good luck with the new build...

[2drSE-i]

yikes thats some major carnage! Who installed the piston??

[Rendon LX-i]

dude...just stick an A series....it will last more than 40 miles

:eek:......LOL. that fuckin blows guy. Tells you how much the builder is ey. O i would of been pissed.

[halxi]

yikes thats some major carnage! Who installed the piston??

Some shop in Ohio installed the piston on the rod

[2drSE-i]

Some shop in Ohio installed the piston on the rod

Oh you got it through a middle man huh? No liability anywhere...sucks.

[halxi]

indeed

[MessyHonda]

so the plan is to put it back together?

[halxi]

:nuts:

That block/head, and those internals will never be able to be used again for anything but scrap, or decoration.

Still working on what I'm going to do.

[Civic Accord Honda]

damn :( that hella sucks... i cant see pics tho

[halxi]

My servers down today... sorry.

[halxi]

Bumpin this....

new motors going together :)

h22 block with h23 95mm crank
h22 arias dome pistons (12.1:1) 88mm
GRP aluminum rods
Sleeved/bored/stroked h22 more or less

FULL race head
Supertech .5mm oversized valves
Supertech dual springs & retainers
Supertech bronze valve guides (shaved)
5 angle valve job, LOTS of port & polishing
quench/combustion chamber reliefs welded
head milled
custom intake manifold

When it's all said and done, it should be about 13.8:1 comp at THIS altitude (1 mile above sea level), maybe a little more. It would be approx. 15.1-15.5:1 at sea level.

Motor will be together, in the car running, before august is over.


Also, finished up all the body/paint work on my truck :D

http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/yota/3.4-cabswap/Paint/1.jpg
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/yota/3.4-cabswap/Paint/2.jpg
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/yota/3.4-cabswap/Paint/3.jpg
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/yota/3.4-cabswap/Paint/4.jpg
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/yota/3.4-cabswap/Paint/5.jpg
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/yota/3.4-cabswap/Paint/6.jpg
http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/yota/3.4-cabswap/Paint/7.jpg

[Rendon LX-i]

Nice...thats going to be a monster thats all i got to say. I heard using a h23 rods makes a longer stroke...kinda like a cheap stroker kit...my buddy has a h22a in his cb7...but goes threw one ear and out the other LOL

[halxi]

Indeed the h23 crank/rods is essentially a cheap way to stroke an h22. However, I'm running h22 pistons, instead of h23 pistons. The overall piston height is slightly taller on the h22 (like .045" IIRC) so they'll be poking out of the top of the block (thus bumping my compression even more ;) )

[Rendon LX-i]

yes indeed......dont forget to post vids bro....

[halxi]

I'll get vids up for sure.

The goal we're shooting for with this motor is 250-275whp range, with 200-210wtq range. Would be insanely easy to accomplish at sea level, altitude sucks though :(

[labeledsk8r]

I'll get vids up for sure.

The goal we're shooting for with this motor is 250-275whp range, with 200-210wtq range. Would be insanely easy to accomplish at sea level, altitude sucks though :(

^^bring it down to orlando speedway, sea level track FTW.

sucks about the motor though good luck with the build

[markmdz89hatch]

holy shitballs, this is a dude that's got some glorious toys. I can't say as I remember you because I was on a few year um..family starting stint when you were active. ...but, much respect for that H build and I'm loving that rock crawler you're building there too. So you have a showroom quality finish on the repaint on a rockcrawler with sliders on it? How long before you skyjack it on 40's and put an exoskelaton on it? I love that shitsh, and with I could do that with my 86.5 hardbody (short bed, reg cab, V6, stick, 4x4), but that's not a cheap hobby, and we don't have any good quarry's or rock/mud runs around here.

[MessyHonda]

man nice build...this makes me want to do a high compression build...i love my daily driver with 10.5:1 compression on the a20...it has good power...quick question do you have any h23 rods?

[AccordEpicenter]

your pickup is really cool... im surprised you didnt go with a built d series with boost, i think you would have alot less headaches than that h series

[Ichiban]

Did you SAS the pickup? I got lucky enough to get an 83 shortbox Hilux with the factory solid axle, and even luckier to score a fixable frame for $100 CDN.

Good god @ engine pic's

[halxi]

holy shitballs, this is a dude that's got some glorious toys. I can't say as I remember you because I was on a few year um..family starting stint when you were active. ...but, much respect for that H build and I'm loving that rock crawler you're building there too. So you have a showroom quality finish on the repaint on a rockcrawler with sliders on it? How long before you skyjack it on 40's and put an exoskelaton on it? I love that shitsh, and with I could do that with my 86.5 hardbody (short bed, reg cab, V6, stick, 4x4), but that's not a cheap hobby, and we don't have any good quarry's or rock/mud runs around here.

The armor that's on it is all tucked up nice, but serves its purpose quite well. Personally, i hate the look of armor/exo's, etc. They just look tacky to me, and in the end is just more junk hanging off the truck to get caught up on lol. I plan to solid axle it, but it'll only see 37's at most. Anything bigger than that in Colorado is kind of useless, since there are really only 3-5 trails where you would NEED a tire that big.


man nice build...this makes me want to do a high compression build...i love my daily driver with 10.5:1 compression on the a20...it has good power...quick question do you have any h23 rods?

I've got 3 h23 rods, the 4th is a nice custom L shape. Good for low compression lmao. Lol nah i dont man, sorry.


your pickup is really cool... im surprised you didnt go with a built d series with boost, i think you would have alot less headaches than that h series

After this motor blew up, i thought long and hard about a J swap, or a eagle/vitara single cam. But, i started this project to build a fast all motor car at altitude that is NOT a K (personally, i hate about 95% of the douche bags on the K series bandwagon) just to prove that it CAN be done for fairly cheap. Including my already 1 blown up 'built' motor, I'm still in it for less than what a K swap would cost, and I'll be running circles around the average K swap.


Did you SAS the pickup? I got lucky enough to get an 83 shortbox Hilux with the factory solid axle, and even luckier to score a fixable frame for $100 CDN.

Good god @ engine pic's

No solid axle, yet. It will come in time, but right now I cant afford to go full on, balls deep into two hobbies. So I do a little here, a little there, on both of them when i can. Still only 20yrs old with other bills/priorities to take care of. Realistically i need to just get rid of the honda but i can't bring myself to do it lol.

[halxi]

I could do that with my 86.5 hardbody (short bed, reg cab, V6, stick, 4x4), but that's not a cheap hobby, and we don't have any good quarry's or rock/mud runs around here.

I love those old hard bodies, 86.5 last model they did with the spare still mounted IN the bed behind the driver window. My dad used to have one, i miss the hell out of that truck.



Anyways, car's done, tuned (but still needs more) and has been to the truck.

Verdict; it needs bigger cams. BAD.

It's trying to breathe but just running out up top. However, it has a wicked power band (only 3wtq difference from 4600-8000rpm) that sits nearly flat through the whole top end @ 156wtq.

Made out with 226whp on a fresh motor, still working on seating rings, then will come bigger cams and a few other little touches that will help get power. This motor will most definitely see 250 at altitude.

Heres a current pic (sorry, cell phone) of the bay re-touched since i had to get breathers welded into a different valve cover. I ended up mixing a 100% 1 off color to paint it with, and liked it so much i re-did the intake as well. Ignore the grounds, they're temporary. And YES they actually made a difference on the dyno! (4whp) Since the distributor and injectors are the only two components that send a signal BACK to the ECU, you want that signal sent back with MINIMAL distortion.

http://users.4x4wh.com/4x4master/Honda%20Pics/newvc.jpg

better pics coming soon.


Heres a vid of a couple runs (still learning to drive the car, seat time > fast car)

My runs are at about 2:05 and 5:15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dNBp8H8eX0


Time slips pretty much looked like:
60ft - 2.0/2.3
MPH - 100/103
Time - 13.9/14.0

Still a lot of learning to be done.

[halxi]

OH, and i smashed my truck:

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d703b3127ccef8786cde552e00000040O08AbNWLJszZOA e3nw0/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

^^^ theres a rock hiding behind my driver front tire that you cannot see from this angle.



Well, guess where it disappeared to?

(not me in the photo)
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d703b3127ccef878175e943b00000040O08AbNWLJszZOA e3nw0/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/




oops.


Rock - 1
Truck - 0

[LewZur]

I'm glad I saw this thread. Your 4x is fucking sick even with that damage:cheers:

[A18A]

hahaha for a second i thought your radiator hose was another exhaust pipe coming from the head lol

[Rendon LX-i]

your h22 gets down man...very nice.

[MessyHonda]

wow...that is cool...can we see some dyno graphs

[halxi]

Thanks guys, I'll get graphs up when it gets a re-tune.

Needs one bad, took it out for a bit tonight. It was breaking up pretty bad, and bogging down from 4000-7000. More tuning required lol.

[halxi]

Re-tuned yesterday

Here's the chart.

Green Baseline (old tune, original power with the built motor), vs Red where it left off at today

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8476/dyno1.jpg


240whp, and 171wtq. gained 30whp and 30wtq @ 5200rpm over my previous tune.

There is still more in it as well, after 4 hours on the dyno we were all exhausted and beat. So we're going to go back to the drawing board and see what we can do to get 250whp, then back to the dyno in another month or so.

[Rendon LX-i]

Thats sweeet bro.....We need a inside vid and you smashing on it

[MessyHonda]

wow that is one sweet tune