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LXiHatch88
08-22-2009, 10:15 PM
Came across an '89 SE-I with the rear discs still intact. What all would I need to get from this car to swap them onto my '88 LXi hatchback? Is it worthwhile, is the difference in stopping power noticeable?

Also found these wheels on an '84 Accord:

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh299/MavDude/0822091240.jpg

Unfortunately, they were 13 inch though. If they were 14's, I would have grabbed those suckers. I could get the whole set for like 100 bucks. They were in nice shape, just needed some polishing up. 1 center cap was missing.

mushroom_toy
08-22-2009, 10:36 PM
Just grab the hub and arm assembly and the ebrake cables/brake lines and youll be good. :)

ghettogeddy
08-22-2009, 10:45 PM
well there isent a huge difference besides well looks ease of brake replacement
and semi rare
if you dont use them get them anyways im sure someone will buy them

Dr_Snooz
08-23-2009, 07:42 AM
Just grab the hub and arm assembly and the ebrake cables/brake lines and youll be good. :)

Probably want to grab the proportioning valve too.

Tomisimo
08-23-2009, 11:30 AM
yes ^^ but it also might be easyer to take whole assembly with you, its only like 8 bolts that hold it in place and shocks.

charliekuney
08-23-2009, 01:07 PM
I think Tomisimo is right. There's another thread where someone got the whole setup and is going to just bolt it up, rather than swap out each part.

Tomisimo
08-23-2009, 02:59 PM
dont forget to take brakerbar with you. if you will take whole assembly. those 8 structural bolts are long and usually well in place.

LXiHatch88
08-23-2009, 03:58 PM
I'm just going to pass on it if the only real difference is appearance. Won't see them with my wheels anyway. I priced rebuilt calipers for it at $110 EACH, and I have no idea if the ones on it are any good or not, so who knows. If anyone near wants to go get the stuff, it's at the Pull-A-Part (http://pullapart.com/) in Norcorss, GA.

I searched all three Pull-A-Parts around Atlanta today for the front end parts I need. Tons of black, red, white, green and gold colored Accords, but the blue ones seem to be harder to find. Lucked out and found an '89 LXi sedan at the Lithonia Pull-A-Part that was hit real hard in the side, but seems to be the same color as mine. It had a nice real Honda fender to replace that cheap aftermarket POS fender that's on there, pretty nice hood, and the sedan front bumper cover I want for mine.


http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh299/MavDude/hood.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh299/MavDude/fender.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh299/MavDude/bumpercover.jpg

Don't know if color will be a dead on match for my car or not, but should be pretty close. Whole car will end up getting repainted at some point the next year anyways.

Tomisimo
08-23-2009, 04:29 PM
rear brakes do outperform drums for sure.

And congrats with finds :D

charliekuney
08-23-2009, 04:44 PM
'88: Montreal Blue Metallic Clearcoat (http://3geez.wiki-tv.com/Montreal_Blue_Metallic_Clearcoat)
'89: Laurel Blue Metallic Clearcoat (http://3geez.wiki-tv.com/Laurel_Blue_Metallic_Clearcoat)

They're not as close as Misty Beige and Seattle Silver, which I swear are the same color.

LXiHatch88
08-23-2009, 04:47 PM
'88: Montreal Blue Metallic Clearcoat (http://3geez.wiki-tv.com/Montreal_Blue_Metallic_Clearcoat)
'89: Laurel Blue Metallic Clearcoat (http://3geez.wiki-tv.com/Laurel_Blue_Metallic_Clearcoat)

They're not as close as Misty Beige and Seattle Silver, which I swear are the same color.

Meh, close enough. The other option was a red bumper cover, gold hood and green fender. :lol:

Dr_Snooz
08-23-2009, 06:36 PM
Meh, close enough. The other option was a red bumper cover, gold hood and green fender. :lol:

Calico car, FTW!!!!

MessyHonda
08-23-2009, 09:00 PM
rear disk make a nice difference

charliekuney
08-23-2009, 10:57 PM
The other option was a red bumper cover, gold hood and green fender. :lol:

Ewe. There's an Accord like that on the Craigslist in my area.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/1336848581.html

Joay
08-24-2009, 06:25 AM
Ewe. There's an Accord like that on the Craigslist in my area.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/1336848581.html
Accord Harlequin! Someone do it.

markmdz89hatch
08-24-2009, 10:46 AM
Accord Harlequin! Someone do it.

hahaha, my thoughts exactly. I've been saying someone should make one for years now. Yet no one wants to deal with the shame of being seen in one I guess. :slap:

Yes, rear disc will outperform the drum in most driving. They're MUCH easier to work on too. Honestly it's the ease of repair/replacement that sells me on them. They do look cool too.

That wheel is a factory option on the '84 Accords, and later (I think 88) Civic's. I have two still brand new in their original Honda box that I wish I could use, but 13"s will not fit over the 88-89 LX-i (and SE-i) front brakes. Dammit.

When you say RED, do you mean red or maroon/burgundy? The true red one's (Phoenix Red) were only in DX trim, and only available in 88 and 89. In '88 Phoenix Red was ONLY available on a DX Hatch and had an 'Off-Black' Interior. In '89 Phoenix Red was ONLY available on a DX Coupe, and same deal, only with 'Off-Black' interior. If you truly saw a Phoenix Red hatch or coupe in there, please ask what they'd get for the front door panels, seats, dash, carpet and center console.

charliekuney
08-24-2009, 11:17 AM
In '89 Phoenix Red was ONLY available on a DX Coupe, and same deal, only with 'Off-Black' interior.

WHAT!? Since when did this combo exist? I want a damn black interior! I know the '89 SE-i coupe (and sedan?) had the option for an all-black interior, but with leather. There's an '88 Phoenix DX hatch on CL where I live; it's been there forever. I was checking the colors on 3geez Wiki and I noticed the black interior for the '88 hatch. That website seriously needs to be updated. I'm getting a Phoenix Red DX coupe and gutting that shit.

markmdz89hatch
08-24-2009, 11:46 AM
WHAT!? Since when did this combo exist? I want a damn black interior! I know the '89 SE-i coupe (and sedan?) had the option for an all-black interior, but with leather. There's an '88 Phoenix DX hatch on CL where I live; it's been there forever. I was checking the colors on 3geez Wiki and I noticed the black interior for the '88 hatch. That website seriously needs to be updated. I'm getting a Phoenix Red DX coupe and gutting that shit.

Yessir. The SE-i coupe with misty had black interior. ...but yes, I already had the '89 Phoenix Coupe and the interior is in Steve's car (88lxi68). The coupe and hatch (88-89) interior door panels and I think the back seat panels too but I'm not sure, are a direct swap to eachother (def not the trunk/hatch area though). Yeah I've seen that damn red hatch up in your area for a while now, and would love to get my hands on it.

PS> The DX off-black (it really is black though) front seats have a higher bolster on the seat pan and back too, so you'll feel more 'hugged' in that seat over the LX-i's.

charliekuney
08-24-2009, 12:28 PM
The DX off-black (it really is black though) front seats have a higher bolster on the seat pan and back too, so you'll feel more 'hugged' in that seat over the LX-i's.

Wh-what? Why are just the black ones different?

Joay
08-24-2009, 01:50 PM
In '89 Phoenix Red was ONLY available on a DX Coupe, and same deal, only with 'Off-Black' interior.
I have never seen, nor heard of a Phoenix Red coupe. I am intrigued.

charliekuney
08-24-2009, 04:00 PM
Same, Joay. There isn't even a picture on 3geez Wiki.

frantik
08-24-2009, 04:01 PM
Accord Harlequin! Someone do it.

u never saw cah's car did u? :kekeke:

and yes if you're planning on taking disc brakes, it's easiest if you take the whole knee assembly.. u can unbolt at the frame kinda near the front doors and at the back unbolt at the upper control arm.. much easier than trying to separate the ball joint

if you do it right you dont have to take the shocks

stat1K
08-24-2009, 05:13 PM
I have never seen, nor heard of a Phoenix Red coupe. I am intrigued.

phoenix red was a color for the dx coupes, they came with black interior, too bad it was dx interior and not lx-i... there was one in arizona at the chandler pick-n-pull but we decided it wasn't worth it because the seats are just not as nice as the lx-i or se-i...

charliekuney
08-24-2009, 05:28 PM
Mark just said that the black seats were nicer (more comfortable) than all of the other colors for the DX.

markmdz89hatch
08-24-2009, 05:32 PM
one of my old coupes. This is the Phoenix red one that Steve sourced his interior from. Don't get all up in arms over the photos as they were taken while Steve did a charity run (Kinda like a gumball run) from NYC to NewOrleans a few years back, and you couldn't spend more than $300 on a car. This one was free seeing that I gave it to him.

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/beater.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/mark_mdz/3G/page24-1045-full.jpg

LXiHatch88
08-24-2009, 05:36 PM
When you say RED, do you mean red or maroon/burgundy? The true red one's (Phoenix Red) were only in DX trim, and only available in 88 and 89. In '88 Phoenix Red was ONLY available on a DX Hatch and had an 'Off-Black' Interior. In '89 Phoenix Red was ONLY available on a DX Coupe, and same deal, only with 'Off-Black' interior. If you truly saw a Phoenix Red hatch or coupe in there, please ask what they'd get for the front door panels, seats, dash, carpet and center console.

It was maroon.

halxi
08-24-2009, 05:37 PM
I have never seen, nor heard of a Phoenix Red coupe. I am intrigued.

there used to be one running around my town that was super clean with only 85k original miles on it, some old guy had it... i offered him an obscene amount of money for it at one point and time but he wouldnt sell it :( I haven't seen it for over a year now either.

Dr_Snooz
08-24-2009, 06:38 PM
there used to be one running around my town that was super clean with only 85k original miles on it, some old guy had it... i offered him an obscene amount of money for it at one point and time but he wouldnt sell it :( I haven't seen it for over a year now either.

I've seen two in the yard now. That with the black interior is a really nice combo. Until you realize that it has a carb and crank windows.

halxi
08-24-2009, 08:05 PM
The power windows always gave me issues in my LX-i, and it would be nothing to swap an EFI motor/harness/ecu into a DX either. Could be a pretty nice combo.

Nafs Asdf
08-24-2009, 09:45 PM
I has phoenix red! bwahahahaha

ok, ignore me... *hides*

markmdz89hatch
08-25-2009, 04:51 AM
I has phoenix red! bwahahahaha

ok, ignore me... *hides*

Who invited the damn European into the room? ....yeah yeah yeah, you guys got the Phoenix red in the 2.0Si loaded to the brick-shit-house.

LXiHatch88--> Sorry for whoring up your thread with the talk of the Phoenix Red. ...thanks for clarifying that it was just the maroon one.

Vanilla Sky
08-25-2009, 06:05 AM
BABE Rally?

MessyHonda
08-26-2009, 12:42 AM
I have never seen, nor heard of a Phoenix Red coupe. I am intrigued.

they had one in my junkyard....it had the all black interior...i wanted to take some parts but it was run down at like 256k miles

labeledsk8r
08-26-2009, 01:13 AM
there was a phenix red coupe for sale a few years back at one of those side road used car lots, place wanted 4500 for it, was auto, and had over 250k on the clock looked in ok condition but i told myself id never get a carbed car again plus the prioce was horid lol