King Peetis's 88 Hatch Build Thread

[King Peetis]

Well I guess its time that I post some pictures of the work that I have been doing on my beloved hatch. Im having a great deal of fun rebuilding this old friend of mine. For those that dont know I had this same car 20 years ago and I have rebuilt another to look just like it. I'll be posting pictures periodically so keep your eyes open;) Oh and by the way, dont get to happy about seeing mods cuz you wont see much. Im oLeSkoOl and Im not big on the rice, just pure plain and simple...The first set of pictures are of the car 20 years ago exactly as it was in 1990 and the others are of the piece of junk I found on the side of the road for 500 bucks in 2007. Hang with me theres more to come.

This is the day we moved from Arizona to Georgia in September of 1990

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3954/picture001ir.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/i/picture001ir.jpg/)

This pic is the day I picked it up from the shop after getting it lowered and the wheels put on in December 1989

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2069/picture002hk.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/i/picture002hk.jpg/)

[King Peetis]

Heres some pics of where I had to start from. What a journey and what a piece of junk but I was determined...
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7065/dscf2494y.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/dscf2494y.jpg/)

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9407/dscf2492.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/dscf2492.jpg/)

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2341/dscf2495.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/i/dscf2495.jpg/)

[markmdz89hatch]

you know Pete, you may call that $700 cat a piece of junk, but up here I'd be all over it for the $700. It looks completely rust free and read to straighten out that passenger side corner, then get to all the work you've already started.

So how 'bout some pics of those top secret mods you ARE working on?

[mushroom_toy]

It doesnt look close to that anymore...the last time I checked it out it looked fine to me. :) And that was quite a few months ago.

[King Peetis]

Patience Grasshopper :rolleyes:. Now you know Im not really moddin' much, just the suspension mainly and eventually the interior. But right now all I have done are the GC coilovers and tokico blue struts, which I absolutely hate; I'll be swapping them out for K-sports shortly, Vigor sway bar, louvers, a couple sets of wheels and tires; my ol'skool DP's and some Enkei SC-05's and well thats about it really, oh yeah, and I shaved all the emblems. The car has come a long way in 2 years, I have replaced just about everything that was held on with nuts, bolts or screws. I will post more pics tonight. If I had to guess I am about 80-85% complete. Im going to seek out the assistance of Luke (Mushroom Toy) and Tim (T-Durr) as I get closer to completion for their 3G prowess...

[gp02a0083]

very nice , always good to see another clean hatchie avoid and escape the confines of a junkyard :thumbup:

[King Peetis]

Heres a few more of the car once I got it home and started going through it. I needed to determine where in the hell to start the project. Honestly I had no earthly idea. I bought a haynes manual and a shop manual and went to work. Well I ran into a couple snags so I reached out to the net in hopes of finding a blog on a rebuild of a 3G and found you guys. I had the car at home for about 2 weeks before me and 3GEEZ hooked up. Contrary to popular belief The car did have a bit of rust that I had to address immediately. It was in the common areas for hatches; right side aft end of the hatch itself, behind the right tail light too and the bumper reinforcement was simply ate up. There was also a bit under the doors rubber seals

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5826/dscf3593x.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/i/dscf3593x.jpg/)

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1323/dscf3594.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/i/dscf3594.jpg/)

[King Peetis]

Sorry the pics are so big I dont know how to shrink them

[King Peetis]

This is just after I dropped a fresh A20 in it
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5225/dscf3248j.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/i/dscf3248j.jpg/)

And this is after I dropped the whole damn car
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2387/dscf4311c.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/dscf4311c.jpg/)

The wicked set up that I hate
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1941/dscf4820.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/dscf4820.jpg/)

[mykwikcoupe]

if you need any interior peieces let me know Im trying to get rid of the red interior i pulled from my white hatch. I do like the white bumpers on your car vs the black on most. I was going to go all black lower until the last pic there. Why do you hate the upper control arm setup

[King Peetis]

This is what it looks like as of this evening. Its about 80% complete
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2360/dscf6011u.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/dscf6011u.jpg/)

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3465/dscf6009i.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/dscf6009i.jpg/)

And one sneak peek of the interior. I know Mark, I havent gotten the tweed done yet. Its coming...
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5295/dscf6020.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/dscf6020.jpg/)

[King Peetis]

if you need any interior peieces let me know Im trying to get rid of the red interior i pulled from my white hatch. I do like the white bumpers on your car vs the black on most. I was going to go all black lower until the last pic there. Why do you hate the upper control arm setup

What do you have thats really clean? I need whatever thats in next to perfect shape. PM me if you got something:thumbup:

The camber adjustment is great but the GC's and the blues dont work well together, you know spring rate and all that good stuff. It just bounces like shit and Im afraid its just gonna push me off the road one day...

[King Peetis]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/698/dscf5149v.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/dscf5149v.jpg/)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6172/dscf6005h.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/dscf6005h.jpg/)

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/308/dscf6026d.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/dscf6026d.jpg/)

[King Peetis]

My 88 gets better treatment than the 07

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6250/dscf6028.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/i/dscf6028.jpg/)

Gotta have one of work central

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/2706/dscf6033rz.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/i/dscf6033rz.jpg/)
What a train wreck
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/2757/dscf6034.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/i/dscf6034.jpg/)
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1061/dscf6035tdrs.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/i/dscf6035tdrs.jpg/)

[ghettogeddy]

you should post these with the image shack thumbnails for forums it will be a alot cleaner looking

also great work those rims came out tits

[lostforawhile]

hahaha it had teg sawblades like my car. what size were those tires? i see raised white letters. they are impossible to get in a size that will fit

[Civic Accord Honda]

i came... alot....

[King Peetis]

hahaha it had teg sawblades like my car. what size were those tires? i see raised white letters. they are impossible to get in a size that will fit

I have no idea what the tire size is other than they're 14's but if you really want to know ask T-Durr. Its what he has on his car now, I traded them for a torque wrench :sad2:

[redaztec]

Wow, that looks great! How long did it take to get it in such nice shape? Good tire choice, by the way! =D

[King Peetis]

Wow, that looks great! How long did it take to get it in such nice shape? Good tire choice, by the way! =D

Ive been working on it ~on and off~ for exactly two years

[Pico]

Beautiful Pete, Just Beautiful and Sexy

[King Peetis]

Beautiful Pete, Just Beautiful and Sexy

Thanks Pico, coming from you thats a great compliment.

[King Peetis]

i came... alot....

DUDE! I have a hard enough time sleeping :barf:

Oh yea and thanks for the CUM-pliment...

[King Peetis]

I’m not much of a gearhead but I love to tear shit apart, fix it, clean it, and put it all back together again. With that said, I have had the entire car apart. I pulled down the interior and replaced the dash, the seats, the head liner, door panels, center console, added the tape case, carpet from a coupe and a really good carpet from the hatch area that looks barely used. While I had it all apart, I scrubbed the shit out of it to remove all the abuse the car had seen in 21 years. Cigarette smoke residue was the worst. You know that little dump (flapper) valve on the inside behind the L/H panels in the hatch compartment? Well it was completely covered in tar. Almost like a cosmoleen or AV-30; the sprayed on protectant stuff. I caught hell getting it off. Then there were the cigarette ashes ground in to the floor pan, and 2 decades worth of spilled drinks and food. I had to suit up for like a BIO/Hazmat operation just to remove the carpet. I was able to clean everything and disinfect obviously and then put her all back together. While I had the rear passenger interior panels out, I recovered them with that striped material. Kind of manly lookin’ not too ostentatious.

First thing I removed was the dash
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/423/dscf4883.th.jpg (http://img169.imageshack.us/i/dscf4883.jpg/)

Then everything else
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2052/dscf5100w.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/dscf5100w.jpg/)

This is after I cleaned it and disinfected it
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/606/dscf5102qh.th.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/dscf5102qh.jpg/)

My attempt at upholstery work
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/3505/dscf5454.th.jpg (http://img2.imageshack.us/i/dscf5454.jpg/)

[Nafs Asdf]

Holy shit, that thing is coming together looking all brand new! :D

[King Peetis]

Heres the wheel thread and what I went through to find the exact wheel I had on the car 20 years ago,for anyone interested:

http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68047

[Civic Accord Honda]

DUDE! I have a hard enough time sleeping :barf:

Oh yea and thanks for the CUM-pliment...

I just couldn't help self as your car is very amazing! :thumbup:

btw love how you painted the mirrors gives it a sporty-er yet more luxury look at the same time

[lostforawhile]

DUDE! I have a hard enough time sleeping :barf:

Oh yea and thanks for the CUM-pliment...if he ever comes to visit find a way to block your tailpipe !! :eek:

[King Peetis]

I was thinkin' of a little hood art for a spare hood that I have...What do you think? These are all pretty crude so all mods and opinions are welcome. Anyone good with photoshop that can help??

Option#1
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/679/jimsunflag.th.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/jimsunflag.jpg/)

Option#2
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6387/soulbrotha1.th.jpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/soulbrotha1.jpg/)

Option#3
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6721/sunc.th.png (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/sunc.png/)

[Civic Accord Honda]

1 or 2

[King Peetis]

Here’s a pic or two I took under the cherry tree...The goal was to rebuild it the way it was, like my signature pic. I think I’m there... So I ask, "Now that I have reached my goal what should I do next???" The stuff I’m working on is: rebuilding a motor and trans, teg headrests, teg front lip, roof rack, sunroof (the one in the car currently is junk) maybe a sliding ragtop, KSports (still sitting in the box). Im gonna do a "GreatDane" hood mod if that’s alright with you buddy and projector headlights. That’s got to be the cleanest damn thing I’ve seen done to any of our whips.

Ok-- Pico, Geddy, TDurr, RooDoo, Rendon, CAH, Mark (I’m still working on the interior) and Grand Duke Luke don’t hold back, I don’t care how crazy it sounds…My car just needs something else!

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/974/dsc00481v.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/dsc00481v.jpg/)

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8553/dsc00483tv.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/dsc00483tv.jpg/)

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9498/dsc00482u.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/i/dsc00482u.jpg/)

[Pico]

Pete the car looks awesome, it will even look hotter with the roof rack.
Sliding rag Oh Yeah.
Maybe for now get the windows tinted is all I can come up with.

[2oodoor]

I love it, and I enjoy your entheusiasm it is inspiring.
I like the graphic too:cool:

[markmdz89hatch]

Pete, that damn thing looks so clean and so nice.

The louvers look great on it. The wheel $ tire combo is nothing but right. The drop is perfect. That lip will really tighten up the look of the front end so get to work dammit.

Just a few things to ask....

Where's the damn interior pics? Do you have rear disc yet?

Critique:
I'm not a huge fan of the graphic, but that's a matter of personal preference. Are the horn covers painted black or just not there? I would really love to see what a slightly (not too much) tinted front signal light would look like on your car. Again, still see the orange, but just a slight tint to it (much like the edm/jdm ones). Then again, the half&half's would look REALLY good too (imo).

In Summary:
The only thing I think that car really needs... ...a new friggin owner. (ME)

[Tdurr]

needs a cat back, roof rack, the ksports put on, tint, and boost.
:D

pete i love the car man. im guessing u never found a tranny?

[A20A1]

And one sneak peek of the interior. I know Mark, I havent gotten the tweed done yet. Its coming...
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5295/dscf6020.jpg

That panel Reminds me of my 7 piece couch set. Nice work

[King Peetis]

That panel Reminds me of my 7 piece couch set. Nice work

Yeah, I know what you mean, its not my style either.


Pete the car looks awesome, it will even look hotter with the roof rack.
Sliding rag Oh Yeah.
Maybe for now get the windows tinted is all I can come up with.

Thanks dude. The sliding ragtop might become a reality, but the tint and the roof rack are a definite


I love it, and I enjoy your entheusiasm it is inspiring.
I like the graphic too:cool:

It your enthusiasm and the rest of the dedicated fellas on the site that keep ME inspired--Thanks again. Question: BBQ in June??


Pete, that damn thing looks so clean and so nice.

The louvers look great on it. The wheel $ tire combo is nothing but right. The drop is perfect. That lip will really tighten up the look of the front end so get to work dammit.

Just a few things to ask....

Where's the damn interior pics? Do you have rear disc yet?

Critique:
I'm not a huge fan of the graphic, but that's a matter of personal preference. Are the horn covers painted black or just not there? I would really love to see what a slightly (not too much) tinted front signal light would look like on your car. Again, still see the orange, but just a slight tint to it (much like the edm/jdm ones). Then again, the half&half's would look REALLY good too (imo).

In Summary:
The only thing I think that car really needs... ...a new friggin owner. (ME)

Mark Foose in da house!! You catch all the subtleties huh? lol.
No interior or disk brakes yet. I cant seem to make up my mind on the material. Hey, I feel you on the graphic, Im not the biggest fan of it either. I have to try things out to know for sure, but until I do, it eats at me like a virus.
I tried tinting the turn signals and it didnt come out too great so I got another pair. maybe I'll try again in the future.
I got rid of aftermarket louvers and found true Honda louvers; these have a better profile.
Horn covers?? What the heck are they besides the obvious?


needs a cat back, roof rack, the ksports put on, tint, and boost.
:D

pete i love the car man. im guessing u never found a tranny?

Thanks man, I got the rack, and the KSports and the trans believe it or not and I will boost the engine Im building. How bout dem apples?

Alright, Im out like a fat kid in dodge ball--hey, that was me damnit!:lol:

[Tdurr]

good deal. this would be 1000x better boosted. esp seeing where it started. when do u wanna put all the stuff in/on the car? u know me and luke are down to help!

and a wire tuck should be done! muahahahahah

[King Peetis]

good deal. this would be 1000x better boosted. esp seeing where it started. when do u wanna put all the stuff in/on the car? u know me and luke are down to help!

and a wire tuck should be done! muahahahahah

Im going to pay someone to put the trans in but I do need somehelp with the coilovers. Maybe next Saturday if youre down?

Bright and early, and if so, I'll reserve the bay at the shop.

I was wrong about it having a full lift; it only has a one of those 24" lifts at best. I'll call you next week...

[lostforawhile]

Im going to pay someone to put the trans in but I do need somehelp with the coilovers. Maybe next Saturday if youre down?

Bright and early, and if so, I'll reserve the bay at the shop.

I was wrong about it having a full lift; it only has a one of those 24" lifts at best. I'll call you next week...

car is looking great, i'm finally getting somewhere on mine too

[Tdurr]

Im going to pay someone to put the trans in but I do need somehelp with the coilovers. Maybe next Saturday if youre down?

Bright and early, and if so, I'll reserve the bay at the shop.

I was wrong about it having a full lift; it only has a one of those 24" lifts at best. I'll call you next week...

we really could do the suspension wit just a single floor jack haha. just give me a call anytime tomorrow. im gonna be up from like 8 am till like 2 am so yea....

[Civic Accord Honda]

my god man! that thing is looking so good!! great work man i love it! maybe some day ill find one half as nice as yours and get back in the 3g game

btw as for turn signals i think your should get some 86-87 ones like in your sig, the amber and clear look 10X better imo

[AccordEpicenter]

the car looks great! Any plans for the engine?

[King Peetis]

car is looking great, i'm finally getting somewhere on mine too

Thanks man! Good luck on yours too


we really could do the suspension wit just a single floor jack haha. just give me a call anytime tomorrow. im gonna be up from like 8 am till like 2 am so yea.... I'll hit you up


my god man! that thing is looking so good!! great work man i love it! maybe some day ill find one half as nice as yours and get back in the 3g game

btw as for turn signals i think your should get some 86-87 ones like in your sig, the amber and clear look 10X better imo

Thanks CAH, I'll play wit dem lights one more time.


the car looks great! Any plans for the engine?

Thanks dude! Im rebuilding an A20 and I want to boost it. Everyone tells me to go with a B20 (which I love) but I really think its cool to see an 86-89 with a built SOHC motor. Guaynabo has the right set up on his.

One of the other things I would like to do is add some smooth looking rocker panels like on the VW jettas or passats. Even Volvo has some good looking parts and pieces that can be added to our cars. My ride is a work in progress. I started on this thing over two years ago and Ive only put, maybe, 500 miles on it total. Even TDurr and Mushroom Toy were like "Come on already!"

[2oodoor]

bbq in June, of course..

I was going to ask about those signal lights, they look freakishly too orange in the picture, what is that?

I love all the motors in these cars, I really like the A20 and squeezing its potential. Or just having one set up properly and running right. It is amazing at the number of these cars that were and are running around all out of adjustment.. many of them wind up in the JY because of it.

I only wound up with a B20 by fluke circumstance, motor was advertised here, it was in Atlanta, it was cheap I just happened to have resources to get it... I only wish I had a few extra head gaskets and I wouldnt be so nervous about it. Oh and an extra tranny, preferably a manual.:thumbup:

[MessyHonda]

no pics of the k-sports

[King Peetis]

bbq in June, of course..

I was going to ask about those signal lights, they look freakishly too orange in the picture, what is that?

I love all the motors in these cars, I really like the A20 and squeezing its potential. Or just having one set up properly and running right. It is amazing at the number of these cars that were and are running around all out of adjustment.. many of them wind up in the JY because of it.

I only wound up with a B20 by fluke circumstance, motor was advertised here, it was in Atlanta, it was cheap I just happened to have resources to get it... I only wish I had a few extra head gaskets and I wouldnt be so nervous about it. Oh and an extra tranny, preferably a manual.:thumbup:

Ok I guess I got some work to do on those signal lights. Now that its been mentioned for the umpteenth time, now Im looking at them and saying out loud, " Yeah, what about them big Mike & Ike lookin' turn signals?" I never really paid much attention to them before--They have kind of a kit car feel to them huh? Time to break out the spray tint... That will be one of my weekend chores coming up.

Im going to start tearing the motor down next weekend if Im lucky.


no pics of the k-sports

I havent put them on the car yet. They're just chillin' in the back of the hatch. Im motivated to buy different shit but I dont have the time to work on anything. Thats why I cant put any miles on the car--Im too busy working--but dont get me wrong, Im not complaining about the, "thank God I have a job" part...

[2oodoor]

OH I was just wondering, were they painted or what, they dont even look like oem ones in the picture.

[King Peetis]

OH I was just wondering, were they painted or what, they dont even look like oem ones in the picture.

Nah, theyre JY finds. I think one came off an 87 and the other off an 88. They are awfully (brand new) orange huh? I'll take care of that soon.

[2oodoor]

there probably fine, just the light caught it in the pictures :thumbup:

[mushroom_toy]

Looking good man!!!. :) I could probably come help you Saturday morning...as its not looking like Im gonna get my engine together lol....you dont know how to do porting do you? I need to port my head and stuff but dont have all the tools/knowledge.

[King Peetis]

I have never done a port and polish but Ive seen it done several times. I dont believe porting is all that difficult; it seems to be all about technique. There is plenty of information on the net though. Just remember: DO NOT remove too much metal. What tools do you need; I might have them...

[mushroom_toy]

Ive got a carbide cutter and some sanding discs for my dremel which im gonna try to make work, but need the burrs, but cant find em anywhere.

[King Peetis]

Do you mean like "rotary files" if yes, I have so many of those it would make your jaw drop. CK out this link and see if we're on the same page...

http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/170966_lg.jpg

Decide which ones you need and let me know. I have small ones for dremel tools and I have larger ones for pneumatic tools. I can give you a few to get you started...

[88LXi68]

car has come a long way. are you going to the Raleigh meet?

[King Peetis]

car has come a long way. are you going to the Raleigh meet?

I wish I could but you see Im one of those married kinda guys and my wife is kinda opposed to it.

[Tdurr]

tell Jen to go! it can be a family trip! I'm sure ur kids would love seeing the road and NC. haha

[King Peetis]

tell Jen to go! it can be a family trip! I'm sure ur kids would love seeing the road and NC. haha

Nah, Mr. Big and Bad-hahaha-You tell her! You deal with all the lip youre gonna get--hahaha

[Tdurr]

next time i talk to her ill ask her about it hahaha.

[88LXi68]

next time i talk to her ill ask her about it hahaha.

tell her the benefits of having a weekend away from the kids!:blah:

[King Peetis]

Tim, tell Luke I got the rotary files if he needs them

[Tdurr]

I sure will next time i talk to him.

[King Peetis]

Me and TDurr picked up a set of Se-i rear brake assys last night and I didnt know the prop valve had to be changed to a 4040. I stumbled on the car as I was leaving the yard. I was pretty amazed to see the rear end was still intact. Well I got the entire brake, e-brake and trailing arm assy with all of the brackets. The only bad thing for me is, that jive turkey Tim grabbed the prop valve for his car :321: LMAO---its all good (I got to give you some shit atleast) and thanks for your help yesterday little brotha, I couldnt have done it w/out cha!

So, Im left perplexed with a load of questions :confused:;

Is there another car I can pull a prop valve from like a lude, teg or CB7? Can my stock valve be drilled? Should I go back and get the ECU from the Se-i, is there anything significant about it from the Lx-i? The Se-i was a sedan so will the e-brake cables be too long or maybe too short for my hatch?

Just so you know I gave the center console (armrest) to Mushroom Toy and the cup holder was already snatched :rly:

[King Peetis]

Hey Tim, before you toss your old valve maybe we can clean it if you think its clogged. Brake cleaner and compressed air go a long way.

[lostforawhile]

Me and TDurr picked up a set of Se-i rear brake assys last night and I didnt know the prop valve had to be changed to a 4040. I stumbled on the car as I was leaving the yard. I was pretty amazed to see the rear end was still intact. Well I got the entire brake, e-brake and trailing arm assy with all of the brackets. The only bad thing for me is, that jive turkey Tim grabbed the prop valve for his car :321: LMAO---its all good (I got to give you some shit atleast) and thanks for your help yesterday little brotha, I couldnt have done it w/out cha!

So, Im left perplexed with a load of questions :confused:;

Is there another car I can pull a prop valve from like a lude, teg or CB7? Can my stock valve be drilled? Should I go back and get the ECU from the Se-i, is there anything significant about it from the Lx-i? The Se-i was a sedan so will the e-brake cables be too long or maybe too short for my hatch?

Just so you know I gave the center console (armrest) to Mushroom Toy and the cup holder was already snatched :rly:I think the first gen teg is the same anyone? I know it has the same master cyl part number as the three g and it has rear discs, my bet would be it's the same thing

[lostforawhile]

Hey Tim, before you toss your old valve maybe we can clean it if you think its clogged. Brake cleaner and compressed air go a long way.

I wouldn't try to clean it, it's a sliding valve, once it corrodes it's finished, if it sticks again under hard braking, the car may do something weird as far as handling or sliding. they don't clog, brake fluid attracts water, (hydroscopic) and the water corrodes the inside of those parts. under emergency braking, it limits the pressure to the back wheels temporarily, this stops the back from locking up first and the car coming around ass first.

[King Peetis]

I think the first gen teg is the same anyone? I know it has the same master cyl part number as the three g and it has rear discs, my bet would be it's the same thing

Thanks Lost


I wouldn't try to clean it, it's a sliding valve, once it corrodes it's finished, if it sticks again under hard braking, the car may do something weird as far as handling or sliding. they don't clog, brake fluid attracts water, (hydroscopic) and the water corrodes the inside of those parts. under emergency braking, it limits the pressure to the back wheels temporarily, this stops the back from locking up first and the car coming around ass first.

Doesnt it figure. I've never disassembled one but I thought it would be a simple (flow) restrictor type.

[lostforawhile]

Thanks Lost



Doesnt it figure. I've never disassembled one but I thought it would be a simple (flow) restrictor type.i don't think you can even take them apart, i know in everything i've seen it says non serviceable

[King Peetis]

i don't think you can even take them apart, i know in everything i've seen it says non serviceable

No doubt.

Well I went back to the yard to do some homework and made some interesting discoveries. You may already know this but it seems to be a toss up as to what cars use the 40/40 prop valve. I looked at an '88 teg and saw that its valve looks just like ours so I pulled it out figuring with disc brakes its got to be a 40/40. Well I walked the valve down the aisle to an '89 Honda Accord LX coupe to compare the two. I thought well they look exactly the same. Close examination revealed something I wasnt expecting. To my amazement the valve in my hand from the teg was a 35/40. The valve in the coupe (with drums mind you) was a 40/40. If there is a good explanation out there I am dying to hear it. This little discovery just took everything I thought to be true and threw it out the window...

The valve on the right is the teg 35/40 (disc all around) and the one on the left is a 3geez 40/40 (disc/drum combo)

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I am going to take the teg valve to work and cut it open to find out once and for all whats inside. Im figuring its completely static or it has a spring type mechanism. We will see...

[lostforawhile]

No doubt.

Well I went back to the yard to do some homework and made some interesting discoveries. You may already know this but it seems to be a toss up as to what cars use the 40/40 prop valve. I looked at an '88 teg and saw that its valve looks just like ours so I pulled it out figuring with disc brakes its got to be a 40/40. Well I walked the valve down the aisle to an '89 Honda Accord LX coupe to compare the two. I thought well they look exactly the same. Close examination revealed something I wasnt expecting. To my amazement the valve in my hand from the teg was a 35/40. The valve in the coupe (with drums mind you) was a 40/40. If there is a good explanation out there I am dying to hear it. This little discovery just took everything I thought to be true and threw it out the window...

The valve on the right is the teg 35/40 (disc all around) and the one on the left is a 3geez 40/40 (disc/drum combo)

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/2306/dsc00498.jpg (http://img375.imageshack.us/i/dsc00498.jpg/)

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I am going to take the teg valve to work and cut it open to find out once and for all whats inside. Im figuring its completely static or it has a spring type mechanism. We will see...
you might want to try the 35/40 i'm assuming the 35 is for the rear, the hatchbacks tend to be light in the back, so you want a little bit less brake in the back end

[2oodoor]

best thing to clean internal brake hydraulics is brake fluid, wear gloves though.
I onlly saw one sei in the yards here in three years, Lucky find for sure!

[King Peetis]

best thing to clean internal brake hydraulics is brake fluid, wear gloves though.
I onlly saw one sei in the yards here in three years, Lucky find for sure!

Yea, I know. Its the first one I have seen in three years too. And I go to the yard all of the time looking for one. I hit the pull-a-parts on the North, South and East sides. I have even driven to the one in Augusta. Im pretty happy for sure. I will post some pics shortly...

[King Peetis]

Here is my lucky little find. I grabbed as much as I thought I needed. Did I forget anything? Will I have an issue with the e-brake cables?(fyi) The brakes came out of a sedan and Im putting them in my hatch (duh). Lost suggested I use the 35/40 prop valve over the 40/40 due to less weight in the rear of the hatch than a sedan. I have heard of other dudes brakes locking up maybe due to increased fluid flow to the rear. I just dont want my ass end coming around on hard braking. I almost forgot, I picked up the front sway bar too; it looked a bit bigger than the stock Lx-i

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/440/dsc00503z.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/i/dsc00503z.jpg/)

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[Tdurr]

petes doing work. u went back to the jy? should've called me again lol. i didnt work sat.

and we need to put the ksports and brakes on at the same time my friend. in like.. a few weeks.

[2oodoor]

Yea, I know. Its the first one I have seen in three years too. And I go to the yard all of the time looking for one. I hit the pull-a-parts on the North, South and East sides. I have even driven to the one in Augusta. Im pretty happy for sure. I will post some pics shortly...

you came to Augusta, you should have looked me up.. and btw the one I found is still where I left it unless its crushed now, I wasnt able to get the brakes yet.
I was at the pull a part here just friday, they just got a hatch in but its sunburned badly. I got a headlight cover off it though and sheet metal, bumpers etc were decent.

[lostforawhile]

when you are looking at all these hatches look for one that has a non cruise control wheel, i need the lousy contactor that is attached to the combination switch, four screws i think, it goes in place of the cruise control slip ring , I have looked everywhere and I just can't get one

[King Peetis]

petes doing work. u went back to the jy? should've called me again lol. i didnt work sat.

and we need to put the ksports and brakes on at the same time my friend. in like.. a few weeks.

Last week in May if we can get everyone together


you came to Augusta, you should have looked me up.. and btw the one I found is still where I left it unless its crushed now, I wasnt able to get the brakes yet.
I was at the pull a part here just friday, they just got a hatch in but its sunburned badly. I got a headlight cover off it though and sheet metal, bumpers etc were decent.

Dude, that was before I knew you, LOL but the next time I come down I'll hit you up.


when you are looking at all these hatches look for one that has a non cruise control wheel, i need the lousy contactor that is attached to the combination switch, four screws i think, it goes in place of the cruise control slip ring , I have looked everywhere and I just can't get one

I will keep my eyes open too cause Im always looking...

[King Peetis]

I thought about selling these wheels but I kinda like'em again.

What looks better, the new school seven split spoke or the old school white five spoke (the ones in my sig)?

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[charliekuney]

I favor the seven-spoke wheels. They remind me of the '08+ Fit Sport wheels.

[King Peetis]

when you are looking at all these hatches look for one that has a non cruise control wheel, i need the lousy contactor that is attached to the combination switch, four screws i think, it goes in place of the cruise control slip ring , I have looked everywhere and I just can't get one

It will probably be a couple of weeks before I make it back up there but what other little nit-noid parts are looking for besides the contactor???

[Nafs Asdf]

Get those powder coated white :D

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8505/petejennwhite.jpg

[lostforawhile]

It will probably be a couple of weeks before I make it back up there but what other little nit-noid parts are looking for besides the contactor???

I'll have to think, oh yea if you see one with a key in it, see if it opens the glovebox, i need a glovebox lock and a key that actually works with it.

[King Peetis]

Get those powder coated white :D

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8505/petejennwhite.jpg

Funny that you mention it. I have been thinking about that for a while. I even told TDurr that on Friday. I think it would really set the car off. Thanks for the image.

CAN ANYONE IN GEORGIA REFER ME TO A REPUTABLE BUSINESS THAT POWDER COATS :dunno:? CHROME AND POWDER COAT ARE DIFFICULT TO FIND HERE! :eek: Not that I need anything chromed mind you...


I'll have to think, oh yea if you see one with a key in it, see if it opens the glovebox, i need a glovebox lock and a key that actually works with it.

I will put it on the list.


contactor that is attached to the combination switch


glovebox lock and a key that actually works with it

[A18A]

lol i was gonna say make them white too. i think it looks awsum

[King Peetis]

lol i was gonna say make them white too. i think it looks awsum

Right on! Thanks

[Nafs Asdf]

Was browsing through your thread, and I simply loved this pic but the colors seemed a bit off... Took the liberty of touching it up a bit. :)

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/207/petejenn.jpg

[lostforawhile]

It will probably be a couple of weeks before I make it back up there but what other little nit-noid parts are looking for besides the contactor???

if you get the contactor grab the tun signal cancel sleeve too, it pulls right off, i think it's different, not sure though here's what the contactor looks like, two screws and the entire thing comes right off http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs533.snc3/30263_10150205094025377_589715376_12490657_3226298 _n.jpg

[King Peetis]

Was browsing through your thread, and I simply loved this pic but the colors seemed a bit off... Took the liberty of touching it up a bit. :)

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/207/petejenn.jpg

Dude you have mad skills. Thats hot, Im gonna frame it and hang it in my office. The guys already think I'm crazy for loving old hondas...

[2oodoor]

its not crazy at all, who said that hey bugs crawling pssst skittles are an alien conspiracy drewl...:kekeke:
looks awesome, btw the powder coating is stupid expensive so personally I wouldnt do it unless somebody owed me a favor or if I was doing a bunch of other stuff at the same time.
There are some good DIY paint kits for wheels that turn out nicely though. Those looked good just cleaned and polished a little IMO.

[King Peetis]

I found a place on Craigslist that P/C's for 50 bucks a wheel. I called the guy about it and he said $100.00 a wheel. I reminded him of his add and he said that price is for 14 inch steelies. I told him, "give me a fucking break!" What's the difference, not double for sure. Anyway, I'm thinking about buying a P/C gun from Eastwood. It's called the "Hot Coat" I think. check it out on YouTube. That and a second hand oven, shit I'll be ready to start my own custom shop. Hahaha

[mushroom_toy]

I found a place on Craigslist that P/C's for 50 bucks a wheel. I called the guy about it and he said $100.00 a wheel. I reminded him of his add and he said that price is for 14 inch steelies. I told him, "give me a fucking break!" What's the difference, not double for sure. Anyway, I'm thinking about buying a P/C gun from Eastwood. It's called the "Hot Coat" I think. check it out on YouTube. That and a second hand oven, shit I'll be ready to start my own custom shop. Hahaha


I guess Tim never told you...I have a pc gun....we just need another old oven and the powder.

[2oodoor]

ive got an oven you can have, it is a slide in GE with a stove top too..and it's sevanities avacado too :tongue:

[mushroom_toy]

ive got an oven you can have, it is a slide in GE with a stove top too..and it's sevanities avacado too :tongue:

My only problem is I have no room lol.....Pete....

[King Peetis]

My only problem is I have no room lol.....Pete....

What the hell! Tim doesn't tell me anything. You mean we have a P/C gun AND an oven at our finger tips. OK, when I get back in town I got to get all over that...hahaha

[Civic Accord Honda]

the og five spokes all the way! <3 them, but the other rims look nice too
i would just rock different rims different times of the year like swap them back and forth every spring summer fall :)

[King Peetis]

the og five spokes all the way! <3 them, but the other rims look nice too
i would just rock different rims different times of the year like swap them back and forth every spring summer fall :)

Word! Word! Word! I'm glad you're feelin'em.:rockon:

[Tdurr]

I guess Tim never told you...I have a pc gun....we just need another old oven and the powder.

i could have swore i told u pete haha. well now u know....


the og five spokes all the way! <3 them, but the other rims look nice too
i would just rock different rims different times of the year like swap them back and forth every spring summer fall :)

shut up. im still trying to buy/trade the 16s off of him hahahah :slap:

[dreeeemA]

any updates on this?

[A18A]

Here is my lucky little find. I grabbed as much as I thought I needed. Did I forget anything? Will I have an issue with the e-brake cables?(fyi) The brakes came out of a sedan and Im putting them in my hatch (duh). Lost suggested I use the 35/40 prop valve over the 40/40 due to less weight in the rear of the hatch than a sedan. I have heard of other dudes brakes locking up maybe due to increased fluid flow to the rear. I just dont want my ass end coming around on hard braking. I almost forgot, I picked up the front sway bar too; it looked a bit bigger than the stock Lx-i

isn't the 35/40 what the stock one is? anyway, the drum brakes get more fluid going to them than the disc brakes do, so using the 35/40 (which i assume is the stock one) is what causes your rear brakes to lock up. this happened to me when i used a drum/disc prop valve on a car with front & rear disc brakes.. the 40/40 is the correct one to use. this is just speaking from experience, someone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong :)

[Civic Accord Honda]

when u getting the kspots on thought tdurr was supposed come help ya

[94blckhawaiian]

beautiful hatch man, simple and clean. im new to 3g accords(owned a 4th gen sedan and currently a 5th gen wagon), and I was wondering about that window shade you got over the hatch. where'd you get it? is it a factory option? home-made? LMK im waiting for a 88-89 hatch to pop up on craigslist so i can snatch it, wanting that shade for it.

[charliekuney]

^ They're referred to as "louvers", and are indeed OEM, but very hard to find.

[lostforawhile]

isn't the 35/40 what the stock one is? anyway, the drum brakes get more fluid going to them than the disc brakes do, so using the 35/40 (which i assume is the stock one) is what causes your rear brakes to lock up. this happened to me when i used a drum/disc prop valve on a car with front & rear disc brakes.. the 40/40 is the correct one to use. this is just speaking from experience, someone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong :)

the drums are always limited by the valve, this prevents them from locking up before the front brakes, since the rear of the car is lighter the rear end could come around if the backs locked first.

[King Peetis]

isn't the 35/40 what the stock one is? anyway, the drum brakes get more fluid going to them than the disc brakes do, so using the 35/40 (which i assume is the stock one) is what causes your rear brakes to lock up. this happened to me when i used a drum/disc prop valve on a car with front & rear disc brakes.. the 40/40 is the correct one to use. this is just speaking from experience, someone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong :)

I never shy away from wisdom, thanks


when u getting the kspots on thought tdurr was supposed come help ya

You speak of Young Timothy? Timothy...? Where for art thou?

Nah man, no Ksports on the car yet. I cant quite figure it out. Can anyone assist with install instructions? The car and strut dont seem compatible--I just think I dont have a clue what Im doing.


beautiful hatch man, simple and clean. im new to 3g accords(owned a 4th gen sedan and currently a 5th gen wagon), and I was wondering about that window shade you got over the hatch. where'd you get it? is it a factory option? home-made? LMK im waiting for a 88-89 hatch to pop up on craigslist so i can snatch it, wanting that shade for it.

Funny you ask. I have a bad habit of not being patient. I bought a set of aftermarket louvers for my car thinking I would never find an OEM set and WALLA! a 1986 DX w/ louvers pops up on craigslist. I called and offered $75 for the louvers and she said come and get it. Now, understand I have a little OCD and even though I had an aftermarket set it wasnt good enough, lol, I still had to have the real deal so I looked everyday for about 10 months before I found them. I have the AM set sitting in the garage collecting dust.

[94blckhawaiian]

who/where/price can I get the aftermarket set? here in Hawaii i doubt i would ever find them. 3g hatches are a rarity in itself around here.

[King Peetis]

spoilers4less.com

I bought the aluminum ones and paid 290 bucks. I wasnt very happy with the fit and finish. They can be spuced up to look good if you take your time. Maybe try one of the other styles. Oh yea, the pictures of the actual louvers will not be visible on the sit. I suggest you give them a call.

[94blckhawaiian]

well i checked out the AM spoilers and they don't look too bad from the pics, but i'll take your word on the less than perfect fitment. gonna look online for an OEM louver. so what's next for your hatch?

[A18A]

i made an error in my brake prop valve post, i actually noticed on my car today (4 wheel disc) that the 35/40 is indeed the correct prop valve to use on these cars (no idea where i got the 40/40 thing from, must be 4 wheel disc from another car). my apologies

[King Peetis]

well i checked out the AM spoilers and they don't look too bad from the pics, but i'll take your word on the less than perfect fitment. gonna look online for an OEM louver. so what's next for your hatch?

Good luck finding the louvers. Im looking for an OEM roof rack or at least the one Honda offered as an accessory back in 86--Thats really it, besides rebuilding the motor and having the interior re-upholstered lol.


i made an error in my brake prop valve post, i actually noticed on my car today (4 wheel disc) that the 35/40 is indeed the correct prop valve to use on these cars (no idea where i got the 40/40 thing from, must be 4 wheel disc from another car). my apologies

I actually pulled a 40/40 prop valve off an 89 LX-i. I also grabbed a 35/40 off a 1990 teg. So youre saying go with the 35/40??

[A18A]

That's odd, I've heard the 4040 prop valve only comes off the SE-i Accords (4 wheel disc). My 4 wheel disc Accords came stock with the 35/40 valve, maybe cause my cars have different front brakes??? The LX-i you got your prop valve from must have had that swapped in at some stage. Either way, I don't think you'll run into any issues with the rear brakes locking up using either 3540 or 4040 prop valves. lol sorry for the confusion

[2oodoor]

^ They're referred to as "louvers", and are indeed OEM, but very hard to find.

I saw a 2009 mustang with those on it this morning! how retro is that!

[lostforawhile]

I saw a 2009 mustang with those on it this morning! how retro is that!
the mustang new ones are a copy, they are trying to copy the old style, the entire car is supposed to look retro, the original louvers came out in the 70-80's , think Miami Vice

[lostforawhile]

here are some old mustang ones, this is the same style as on the Accord, http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/2730/541/6822770005_large.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a261/Tdoin/85%20Mustang/DSC06284.jpg

[2oodoor]

OH those arnt old mustangs.. well I guess they are eighties but not what Im thinking of is a 69-73. My cue was that someone is still making them obviousley since those were fitted to a 09.
Louvers... yes partially still on topic

[King Peetis]

American muscle cars have had louvers for a while. Especially from the late late 60's, really popular in the 70's and started dying off in trend in the late 80's. All car trends like most anything come full circle. The cars are looking more retro these days so it only makes since to bring back the retro trends. I say we should contract a machine shop and place a batch order for some curb feelers. I bet the young dudes have never heard of those...LOL

Anyway, I dont think its a trend started here in the states. I will bet it was started in Japan and later adopted here. If you take a good long look at louvers you will see that the person who came up with the idea was taking a serious financial risk. What looks good on paper doesnt always look good in person. Well, I dig them so thats all that really matters...

[mushroom_toy]

Hey Pete if you want to ride down my way well put the coilovers on no prob. Ive just got a floor jack and jackstands but then it would only take us an hour or two tops. Might as well swap the new tranny in while your at it...that wouldnt take that long either. But if you seriously want to get the coilovers done come down here and Ill help you.

[King Peetis]

My car is sitting on jack stands with the rear end torn out. Im getting ready to put in the disc brakes but hit a stand still with the coilovers. Oh well, this is how it goes most of the time...But thanks for the offer.

[Legend_master]

My car is sitting on jack stands with the rear end torn out. Im getting ready to put in the disc brakes but hit a stand still with the coilovers. Oh well, this is how it goes most of the time...But thanks for the offer.


What problem are you having with the coilovers?

[King Peetis]

Well I think I have it figured out. My dumb ass just needed to pull out the upper mount assembly :toilet:. And I F'ed up a ball joint on the upper control arm. Im going to take some pics and get them posted as I install them.

Its really hard to concentrate with two little ones running around and asking me questions.

[Tdurr]

if it aint done by friday, ill swing by to show u how its done. lol

but really give me a call when u see this pete

[Tdurr]

if it aint done by friday, ill swing by to show u how its done. lol

but really give me a call when u see this pete

[King Peetis]

if it aint done by friday, ill swing by to show u how its done. lol

but really give me a call when u see this pete

when I see this? You got my number

[94blckhawaiian]

sorry to thread jack, but about the aftermarket hatch louvers, was the fitment very off? and was the quality of it bad?

[King Peetis]

sorry to thread jack, but about the aftermarket hatch louvers, was the fitment very off? and was the quality of it bad?

The quality is 'just OK' but the fit and fair was decent. The two things I didnt like were that the louvers sag in the middle and they were a little bit tall. I should have some pictures somewhere. Do a search for louvers and Im sure you will find them.

[94blckhawaiian]

The quality is 'just OK' but the fit and fair was decent. The two things I didnt like were that the louvers sag in the middle and they were a little bit tall. I should have some pictures somewhere. Do a search for louvers and Im sure you will find them.

damn ima just stay on the market for an OEM set. how much would you say they weigh?

[SCARE!]

slick lookin...

[markmdz89hatch]

damn pete, your progress is almost slowing to the pace of mine.. hehehe :stick:

As far as wheels go, I'm still partial to the DP's. The split-spokes do look good too, but it's really a matter of personal preference.

I wish I could just come down there and do the interior for you. Are you putting on adjustable rear upper control arms when you do the k-sports?

[King Peetis]

damn pete, your progress is almost slowing to the pace of mine.. hehehe :stick:

As far as wheels go, I'm still partial to the DP's. The split-spokes do look good too, but it's really a matter of personal preference.

I wish I could just come down there and do the interior for you. Are you putting on adjustable rear upper control arms when you do the k-sports?

Yeah I know. My flipping job keeps me pretty damn busy. I put my car on stands a month ago to start the brake swap and thats as far as I got. And yeah I already have the adjustable upper control arms on it. Man, I have so much shit in my garage to put on this car, I just cant seem to find the time....And then theres TDurr :banghead: LOL

[Tdurr]

pete! im leaving my job in 2 weeks soooo ill have alot of free time if u just want me to head over and do all the work wit mad amount of pics haha.

[mushroom_toy]

Yeah definitely Tim need your help man.

[King Peetis]

pete! im leaving my job in 2 weeks soooo ill have alot of free time if u just want me to head over and do all the work wit mad amount of pics haha.

Bet! I plan on taking 2 extra days off plus the weekend in the next couple of weeks so I'll hit you up.


Yeah definitely Tim need your help man.

OK so Im not the only one. Tim is pretty valuable. How bout this? We could rent him out kinda like a timeshare thing :bowrofl: what do you think?

[Tdurr]

lol timshare.

btw call me(I dono ur awake hours anymore lol) tomorrow. I wanna get that axel asap... im getting really annoyed with it.

[13buzz]

any updates? :)

getting my post count up if nobody has noticed:P

[King Peetis]

OK, it only took me 6 months to get the Ksports and the rear discs on the car. Gotta thank TDurr for that though. That dude really came through. He assembled the rear end on both sides including the coilovers, changed the prop. valve and bled all for corners. But now the car wont start, go figure!

[Tdurr]

put fresh gas in it.

[itzdave]

Spam

nice...:rofl:

[lostforawhile]

I got spammed with the same thing, I thought that idiot got banned

[wh1skea]

different idiot? anyways, I reported that post not too long ago (30 minutes?)

[King Peetis]

Where in the hell do I find seat belts? Brand new stock 1988 or 89 ones.

I took the car up to Weaver in Marietta and had them adjust the ride height. They lowered the rear more to 23 and a half inches and the front to 23. They did a full alignment and a high speed balance. Drove like a dream machine. I'm gonna try and upload some pics

[lostforawhile]

Where in the hell do I find seat belts? Brand new stock 1988 or 89 ones.

I took the car up to Weaver in Marietta and had them adjust the ride height. They lowered the rear more to 23 and a half inches and the front to 23. They did a full alignment and a high speed balance. Drove like a dream machine. I'm gonna try and upload some pics
if yours are going bad, they are lifetime warranty, i wonder if the later cars have the same non automatic seat belt mounting points as the early cars? if they do you can do away with the automatic belts and go with the basic trouble free belts

[King Peetis]

Is there another year of seat belt that will work on an 1988? I need belts for me the wife and the kids. I would feel much better and safer knowing my kids are protected.

[Tdurr]

go to honda and ask them about their warranty.

[King Peetis]

they told me the seatbelts for my car are discontinued...

[mushroom_toy]

^dont matter go get them inspected, theyll replace em if theyre messed up, and theyll do it with the exact same belts.

[Tdurr]

yup. take that bish to honda. and just be like FIX IT!!

[88LXi68]

Any chance of making it to IA this year?

[King Peetis]

IDK about it. Im not sold on the drive. I dont want to drive any where for 7 hours let alone the accord. Its like riding a crotch rocket; you ride it for short trips. Dont get me wrong, I love the car buuuuuuut...idk

[King Peetis]

I know you guys are gonna tell me to do a search but who from the Atlanta area is going to IA????

[PENN]

when is it? wanna go but cant find no info on the website. im proly blind

[88LXi68]

I know you guys are gonna tell me to do a search but who from the Atlanta area is going to IA????

Luke and maybe Tim?

[mushroom_toy]

Pete you know the drill. Tim and I are going lol.

[88lxi-shortram]

Pete you know the drill. Tim and I are going lol.

im going as well... im probably taking the EG if the accords not done

[mushroom_toy]

Yeah Im not gonna be in the accord either. :ninja:

[88lxi-shortram]

i wish i was but even if i get it legal on the orad i havent broken in the moor quite yet and honestly id rather break down close to home then tennessee

[mushroom_toy]

We have support vehicles going. :)