88 accord lx-i swap

[resendez]

i have an 88 accord lx-i i really want to do a swap im thinking of going for an h22 swap. but not sure i need some help. hopefully some one on here can give me some guidance this is my first swap

[Tomisimo]

i have an 88 accord lx-i i really want to do a swap im thinking of going for an h22 swap. but not sure i need some help. hopefully some one on here can give me some guidance this is my first swap

Man, read again what you wrote there^^ we sure can tell you what you need to do this, but there was just been handfull of people who done it, and most of those done it by a professional shop.
If its your first swap then do something simpler first, try and take your A20a3 engine out and wash it, then assemble it and put it back in.. then you'll get an first idea of whats goes in for the swap and how everything works.
I'm not trying to burst your boble, but really.

[stat1K]

can we start deleting these?

[charliekuney]

No, no: Let the kid look around for a bit, then delete. I'm actually looking into doing a B20 (or other) swap over the next summer if I can afford to get a good engine by then.

[mykwikcoupe]

Charlie Ive got a spare b20a in my garage. i was going to save it in case i ran into any problems like robs turbo biuld. im thinking if that happens itll go away anyways. When you get ready for the swap let me know. They arent cheap but its local

[charliekuney]

I'll go for that, Mike. I'll buy everything, obviously, but it'll have to be in the summer. I wouldn't mind a nice exhaust, too. Isn't the one on your hatch really from your coupe? Where did you get it?

[mykwikcoupe]

Yes it is and its been hacked a few times and rewelded for test fitting purposes. Its still sound but not pretty looking anymore. if it doesnt matter to you it wont to me.

[Rendon LX-i]

can we start deleting these?

I say we should...its how many of these threads we saw already.

It seems to me the search button dont get seen. Should someone blow up the letters on the search button. LOL

[charliekuney]

I don't care what my exhaust looks like down the pipe, just at the end.

[resendez]

i no i sound stupid but this is my first car im 16 i wanna get in the game start now thats y i posted this to get personal not general info. so i really need help. and Tomisimo thanks thats a good idea i thnk ima do that ive done an engine swap for my auto teacher in a contour but it was the same engine. i no my way around a car but never done a swap and dont really no motors yet so ive ben trying to research the best motor for my car. (88 accord lx-i 5-speed)

[charliekuney]

Yay for young people! I just turned 17. ;) As far as I've looked into it, swaps aren't too easy into these cars. All you must learn from this thread is: search, search, search!

[Tomisimo]

here is an engine for you, direct swap and its rare JDM DOCH 16V engine.
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71679

if you really want to swap a H22, then you have to have welding skils, as you have to weld your own mounts, then have to figure out clutch, as our cars have Cable clutch, and H22 has hydraulic clutch. You need a converter, then gear linkages need to be redone, Then you have to redoo wiring, you have to marry H22 wiring with Accords plug's. Need to figure out Axles as well, as they are different both in length and joints. Lets see if I dont miss something. Ahh, and you have to know right angles of the engine mount it self or risk wearing your expensive custom axles. alignment is crucial here, then all piping for cooling.. the list goes on and on..

I gave you a taste of how complex that is for someone that just starting understand how the car works, Not that I'm understate you here. Start with simpler stuff, and hang around, watch and learn, there is tons and tons of info floating around here and different projects as well.

[charliekuney]

Since when was the B20A a direct swap?

[mykwikcoupe]

since all you need is 2 wires, a rear mount and a day to swap the engines over. Short of rebiulding or modifying the a20a engines the b20a is by far the next easiest. Charlie if your looking for a swp Ill have another set of b series mounts from zacks hatch if 2ndgenguy doesnt buy it. It wont be a bolt in application as the trans mount neads welding to the bay. Its a possibility though.

[MessyHonda]

since all you need is 2 wires, a rear mount and a day to swap the engines over. Short of rebiulding or modifying the a20a engines the b20a is by far the next easiest. Charlie if your looking for a swp Ill have another set of b series mounts from zacks hatch if 2ndgenguy doesnt buy it. It wont be a bolt in application as the trans mount neads welding to the bay. Its a possibility though.

yup...i still need to get my b20...its been in the shop for 3 weeks now..got the head rebuilt and doing a port and polish on it

[OldSkoolA20accord]

i no i sound stupid but this is my first car im 16 i wanna get in the game start now thats y i posted this to get personal not general info. so i really need help. and Tomisimo thanks thats a good idea i thnk ima do that ive done an engine swap for my auto teacher in a contour but it was the same engine. i no my way around a car but never done a swap and dont really no motors yet so ive ben trying to research the best motor for my car. (88 accord lx-i 5-speed)

if you wanna "get in the game" sell the accord and get a EF or EG civic. I tried to swap a 3gee and it was too damn much. Although that was before innovative started carrying the CA accord b series (integra b series) swap mounts. If you like the accord which i did try a b series swap. I have helped people do swaps but i just LS swapped my EF hatch by myself. Its easy and straight forward but you have to have a general knowledge of cars, and how they go together. I myself am good at taking something apart and putting it back together. i can tear something down let it sit for 3 months and still remember how it all goes back together.

But like you said if you wanna get in the game get a civic unless you have a knack for making custom parts. I myself would love to see a 3gee accord hatch, with a b18c, slammed on the ground with some crazy low offset and camber. I plan on findone one and doing just this when i get back from iraq.

this would be the only swap you could pull off
http://www.innovativemounts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=18950

[stat1K]

Since when was the B20A a direct swap?

since apparently in your highschool they don't teach reading comprehension.

[Rendon LX-i]

since 1986 LOL.

[resendez]

hmm h22 doesnt seem to be the best swap for right now the position im in. wat about the b20a. how much would one run for i found an h22 for 200 450 with head. is the b20a a good motor havent really read up on one. thanks you guise for all ur help, suggestions, and guidance i really appreciate all the help i can get.

[stat1K]

sorry but an h22 for 450 is stolen or shit. you can buy b-series mounts for a b16/b18/b20 from integras and civics for 349.99 check that option out if your serious, but my advice is sell the car as this isn't one that is easy to modify. now if you want it to not run for a long time / you're a hondahead at 16 then go for it, but my guess is you're not.

[resendez]

thats the thing im down i love my accord i fell in love the day i got it i dont want to sell it so your opinion on a b20a swap for an accord would be? (stat1k)

[stat1K]

my opinion on the b20a is they are too hard to find and not really that much of an improvement over you a20 unless it's in bad shape.

if you do some searching on this site look for legend_master 's posts... he is one of the members who's done a real b-swap in his accord. do a lot of reading about the b-series, on here, on wikipedia, on honda-tech.com and so on, learn about the terminology, learn about the differences with everything, go practice soldering, learn how the cars wiring system works, understand that this isn't a weekend job unless you know what you're doing and have all the parts. (you'll never have all the parts because you're always missing something)

your first step shouldn't be to ask this question that's been asked a million fucking times. your first step should be what i posted above, get it done.

[resendez]

stat1k constructive criticism i can take that thanks for the advice bro

[resendez]

if no swap what should i do with my 88 accord i was thinking about total tune-up redo all gaskets and all fluids im ot sure what else to do to it doesnt feel like its reaching its potential and when i give it gas it just rvs like im holding the clutch but im not then its starts to go any suggestions?

[ShyBoyCA6]

do us a favor and posts pics man you got enough posts to put some pics on your thread and just stay with the a20 man and just tweek it up a bit

[stat1K]

if no swap what should i do with my 88 accord i was thinking about total tune-up redo all gaskets and all fluids im ot sure what else to do to it doesnt feel like its reaching its potential and when i give it gas it just rvs like im holding the clutch but im not then its starts to go any suggestions?

replace your clutch. standard maintenance on this car after 20 years of neglect is probably something you wanna do quick, i'm assuming it's 20 years of neglect because even if a car is old lady driven things like, bushings, ball joints, gaskets, hoses, belts, all that shit gets neglected. it may have had oil changes and greasings but probably not any major work like that, usually that's why people get rid of the cars, a mechanic tells them what they should do and they say woah fuck that i'll sell it for 600 and buy a different car to neglect.

[ShyBoyCA6]

replace your clutch. standard maintenance on this car after 20 years of neglect is probably something you wanna do quick, i'm assuming it's 20 years of neglect because even if a car is old lady driven things like, bushings, ball joints, gaskets, hoses, belts, all that shit gets neglected. it may have had oil changes and greasings but probably not any major work like that, usually that's why people get rid of the cars, a mechanic tells them what they should do and they say woah fuck that i'll sell it for 600 and buy a different car to neglect.

ill tell you this much stat1k those people dont know what they are missing lol even the simple shit can be done on these cars on the real

[resendez]

that's the stuff i wanna do to it fix it up like new as much as i can and alright ill post some pics hopefully by tomarrow not to pretty on the eyes but i love it some pot head kid no offense had it and left it at a shop because he did not want to pay repairs (alternator) and shy boy wat do u mean by tweek my first honda not first car but first honda

[ShyBoyCA6]

that's the stuff i wanna do to it fix it up like new as much as i can and alright ill post some pics hopefully by tomarrow not to pretty on the eyes but i love it some pot head kid no offense had it and left it at a shop because he did not want to pay repairs (alternator) and shy boy wat do u mean by tweek my first honda not first car but first honda

might not be much of a gain but spark plugs wires clean the engine make sure to do oil change every 3 months or 3000 miles and mantain a clean engine and the rest man you will have to look up cause we can only help only if you need it just search it man like performance parts on the forum and you'll learn something and if you cant find it or figure it out ask the members for advice im sure they all had problems down the road and should be able to help you on that i only know fuel problems for now since i keep my car on check and on spoiled lol

[resendez]

ha ha get a bunch of guys and cars thats what happens no harm no foul. im not taking no offense im just looking for some help thats all. a little bs and stuff along the way never hurt nobody and ya sorrry im a ''noob''. thats y i came here to post.

[resendez]

shy boy what have you dont to ur car as in tweeks just curious? we got the same car an all.

[Tomisimo]

stat1k has a point there ^^
But on the other hand, noobs that are only starters like this guy, ok, someone need to preach hem right stuff to start with, not some slam to the ground shit and shake your nuts off shit.. The guy is passionate about hes car and actually first he wanted is better engine, not what body kit and what coil overs fit.. for me it says it all..

[Nio]

he has a point there ^^
But on the other hand, noobs that are only starters like this guy, ok, someone need to preach hem right stuff to start with, not some slam to the ground ship and shake your nuts off shit.. The guy is passionate about hes car and actually first he wanted is better engine, not what body kit and what coil overs fit.. for me it says it all..

what that he doesn't like our slow ass A20's

J/k..


ROFL..

No personally I'm glad people ask these questions, because it gives me a chance to learn something I wouldn't have asked about. *even though I did do a question similar to this one.* most of the time its cause people like him or myself don't know much about cars to begin with and don't know all the little details.

Like I knew I was going to have to put in a new tranny, but didn't know I would have to do axels, mounts, and a bunch of other things. :P

[Civic Accord Honda]

since 1986 LOL.
1985..

Someone has a little grit in the ol Vagina!!!!!!!!!!!
:lol: :lol:

I was actually rather disturbed by comment #42.
LOL seriously ? you need to watch more fucked up porn and visit 4chan more often my friend :thumbup:



think of me as the professor everyone hates because he doesn't hand out the answers he makes you look and hurts your poor delicate psyche's while doing so.
:bow:

[resendez]

so guise wat are some more suggestions would it be a good idea to take out my motor and redo all gaskets and seals and then turbo it or is the turbo pointless and some one told me that if i did not do a re build that i wouldnt beable to go over 5 psi is this true im looking for wat ever help i can get i appreciate every thing guise theres nothing like a dude and his honda so im totally serious about this.

[resendez]

wat do i search i typed my car in my yer and swaps and performance wats the best key word ima try turbo next

[ShyBoyCA6]

nah dont worry about man dont look for turbo if you aint got the money for it

[resendez]

how much would that run me bro

[resendez]

i want to get all the info for this summer thats y im posting now you no. get a head start so i no wat im looking for and try to get an idea for my car thats wat im looking for ideas

[hammer3rd]

Hey resendes check this out. http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57296&highlight=h22a. A very long thread read it all a lot of info and a very very fast car,very fast

[ShyBoyCA6]

now that i cant say since i dont have turbo lol well not yet

[Nio]

nah dont worry about man dont look for turbo if you aint got the money for it

I 100% agree, I want to turbo my car, but I have a whole lot of other hurdles I have to jump first.

gotten over quite a few thanks to some of the nice people here.

like shyboy :D

[ShyBoyCA6]

thanks nio and one more thing i think i read it on nio's thread that "your always gonna be missing something when doing a build" or something and its true you always gonna miss some parts do the simple things for now slap on an intake and do a good tune and your car would run better just taking care of the engine is what makes a healthy engine haha

[Tomisimo]

Alright let me brake it down for you..

You see, you want to have more power, ok so the swap isnt that easy just torbo it right? make it faster, sure, make it sound good, nice.. but then, do your chassis will take it? That much power have to go somewhere..
I say for every mood you make you need counter mood as well.
More power- need better brakes
Faster- needs better suspension

I say, play safe and dont kill your self, or all girls will miss a guy, we are already 8 guys to 10 girls so.. ;)

[resendez]

makes scenes tomisimo how do i get that power tho?

[ShyBoyCA6]

makes scenes tomisimo how do i get that power tho?
its turbo power to do all that

[Nio]

its turbo power to do all that

After fixing the car and getting her running right *even though it was lik 10-15 minutes*, >.> she felt so much faster then my 03 civic did, especially 0-30, so I actually don't think I'm quite ready for a turbo anyways.

trust me get your car running fine, and notice the power difference, then do some other work..the turbo is a bit much right off the bat.

>.< but boy can I taste it coming.

[Tomisimo]

to get a proper powerband out of any engine is to use precession parts.. if you want ho have more than 250Hp to the wheels and up, 200Hp is easy with low pressure turbo @8/10psi any higher and you have to rebuild with forged pistons and rods.
Still if you want to turbo your car, you better of with a complete rebuild of your engine, new bearings, hone cylinder holes, new pistons and rings, all new seals, rather head port, as our heads do have small ports to begin with..
then brake the engine in, and after 5k mils you can turbo it. Run simple stand alone management or convert to OBD1 (On Board Diagnostics v.1) what we on A20a3 is OBD0, not tunable for the most part.

I try to keep it simple for you, there is more to it, but details will come eventually when you do your own reading.

[Tomisimo]

here is some literature Maximum Boost by Corky Bell (http://rs26.rapidshare.com/files/22088275/Corky_Bell_Maximum_boost.rar) Download this .pdf book and read it from cover to cover. The best book there is on how do boost works and how to build an reliable engine with boost.

[ShyBoyCA6]

After fixing the car and getting her running right *even though it was lik 10-15 minutes*, >.> she felt so much faster then my 03 civic did, especially 0-30, so I actually don't think I'm quite ready for a turbo anyways.

trust me get your car running fine, and notice the power difference, then do some other work..the turbo is a bit much right off the bat.

>.< but boy can I taste it coming.

yup hopefully to start on the fall or winter so i can go on the track:thumbup:

[resendez]

ok so i guess my question is how do i get the most power i can with out turbo and get my car running right ive done every thing i can think of it has over 200,000 almost 300,000 so im sure that plays in and i gues the next step is new plugs and new wires dist. and intake. what about exhaust wat should i do about that im not looking for cosmetic stuff or sound i just want the power gain. i want my power back it feels like i have 90hp i want my 125 back

[ShyBoyCA6]

ok so i guess my question is how do i get the most power i can with out turbo and get my car running right ive done every thing i can think of it has over 200,000 almost 300,000 so im sure that plays in and i gues the next step is new plugs and new wires dist. and intake. what about exhaust wat should i do about that im not looking for cosmetic stuff or sound i just want the power gain. i want my power back it feels like i have 90hp i want my 125 back

everything tomisimo said "you better of with a complete rebuild of your engine, new bearings, hone cylinder holes, new pistons and rings, all new seals, rather head port, as our heads do have small ports to begin with.." this is your best shot for now

[resendez]

were can i find a rebuild kit

[Tomisimo]

Nopi.com look for a rebuild kit..

[Tomisimo]

Stop both of you, take it over PM instead. if you have issues with one another. I'm deleting all posts that are non related to this thread.

[ShyBoyCA6]

Stop both of you, take it over PM instead. if you have issues with one another. I'm deleting all posts that are non related to this thread.

Thank you for doing that tomisimo they are not a good example for new members

[A18A]

supercharger:)

[stat1K]

Nopi.com look for a rebuild kit..

you really just suggested nopi? nopi sells cheap chinese crap.

if you want to rebuild your motor buy the honda parts.

1 061A1-PJ0-305 GASKET KIT A
2 061B1-PH2-010 GASKET KIT B
3 061C1-PC8-S00 GASKET KIT c


those three gasket kits will have most of the gaskets you need.

as for things like bearings it's not necessary to buy from honda but i would make sure it was a reputable brand, i've had good luck with a company called Rock products, they make bearings, pistons, etc... but something like ACL is good too.

In any case you want to follow all procedures on tear down and reassembly, that means torque sequences, clearance measurements, etc.

i wouldn't use aftermarket parts for anything but maybe the headgasket or power adding parts like a cam, cam gear, and so on. stuff like the water pump, oil pump, or timing belt should be honda, there is no reason to change as the parts are cheap and the quality is top notch, don't be fooled by autozone or checker on their prices, it's better to pay a little more for something that's not going to fail than pay less for something you'll have to replace.

as i said before do some searching, you can find some good write ups on doing these kinds of procedures, buy a shop manual all the info is there too, hell even look at other honda motors, d-series.org has some good stuff, sohchonda.com and onecamonly.com also do, the principals learned in those threads can be applied to any honda motor.

it's a lot of work but don't be like some of these yahoos and half ass shit, you'll not enjoy the results, and the rest of us won't either.

hondapartsnow.com has all the part numbers you need and they have the best prices, shipping kills so order all at once or not at all.

[resendez]

U do not beliEve in half ass all the work I do on my cars And other cars is done the right way the first time might as well especially with some thing like a car there's no reason y you shouldn't

[resendez]

I meNt I not u sorry ha ha I'm dpi g this on my iPhone not as easy as a computer

[ShyBoyCA6]

HMM doesnt andy auto sport have a rebuild kit??

[stat1K]

any "rebuild" kit you have is going to be chinese shit unless it's from honda 99% of the time.

[Civic Accord Honda]

any "rebuild" kit you have is going to be chinese shit unless it's from honda 99% of the time.

felpro is good.

[stat1K]

i said for some gaskets but i wouldn't trust felpro for any rubber gasket, i had a 2-3 felpro valve cover gaskets that fell apart. must have been why they're called felpro.

[Civic Accord Honda]

i said for some gaskets but i wouldn't trust felpro for any rubber gasket, i had a 2-3 felpro valve cover gaskets that fell apart. must have been why they're called felpro.

true lol, ive only used the head gasket and intake mani gasket and the intake mani one ripped lol, if i do another hg ill ether get a mls or a oem with copper spray and ill get a bisi heat sheld im gasket

[ShyBoyCA6]

i found this site for all honda cars
http://www.rpmrons.com/Hondakits.html
http://www.rpmrons.com/Hondakits1.html#2.0

[stat1K]

anddddddddd chinese.

[ShyBoyCA6]

anddddddddd chinese.
yes sir i know if americans made it, it will be more shity just look at the america cars poorly built to last only a year or so lol things never last forever haha and everything is made in china or japan to oh well and honda is a import so good luck finding anything not from china or japan lol

[cubert]

yes sir i know if americans made it, it will be more shity just look at the america cars poorly built to last only a year or so lol things never last forever haha and everything is made in china or japan to oh well and honda is a import so good luck finding anything not from china or japan lol


Are you serious right now? Please tell me youre trying to play a big joke on all of us...

[mykwikcoupe]

Japan biuld is good quality. Everything from china is cheap lead filled crap. There a reason they comparing them to the USA of the 1950's.

[stat1K]

yes sir i know if americans made it, it will be more shity just look at the america cars poorly built to last only a year or so lol things never last forever haha and everything is made in china or japan to oh well and honda is a import so good luck finding anything not from china or japan lol

i never once mentioned an american product... but you realize your car was made right here in america right? ohio to be exact.

as for quality standards, china has no quality control, whatever comes out comes out, sometimes you get decent stuff sometimes you get shit that brakes in a day, with something that i'm trusting my life with, ie my car, i'm not going to skimp and buy something cheap because it's cheap, i'm going to pay money for quality parts. but then again, i'm not you wei...

[ShyBoyCA6]

didnt know that but now i do lol and um well how about the engines?? and i know you didnt mention america products i was just say stat1k

[stat1K]

yeah you were just say...

[ShyBoyCA6]

Are you serious right now? Please tell me youre trying to play a big joke on all of us...

no sir im not kidding you lol and i dont even know where the car was made till today i never really read were the car was made i only read whats important and that isnt important so feel free to luagh i dont care just because i didnt read were it was made and make a big deal out of it

[stat1K]

oh i have so many other things to laugh at here that are more worthy, like carriage bolts.

[ShyBoyCA6]

ok then well instead of talking about were they made it lets just give this guy the link to his rebuild kit and help him out a bit at least you know unless the one on ebay works if anyone tried it

[resendez]

pics how do i post them

[ShyBoyCA6]

pics how do i post them

better to photobucket them and would be better
post away(pics)

[resendez]

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[resendez]

ha ha i tried idk wat im doing

[ShyBoyCA6]

um do you have a photobucket account??

[resendez]

just made one and uploaded pics wat do i copy and paste

[ShyBoyCA6]

yeah copy the one that says img the last one and copy and paste to your post i think limit is 10 or less

[resendez]

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[ShyBoyCA6]

nice lxi and now the fun begins

[resendez]

ha ha yes hopefully and thanks bro i want to keep it just like that and have a sleeper

[resendez]

maybe hid conversion and wheels nothing big i want performance

[ShyBoyCA6]

hmm good 16 inch would be good on the car which im getting hopefully and 14 or 13 are the rite size..

[resendez]

some thing like this

http://www.hondawheelshop.com/ebay/2002-2005-civ-si-hfp-whel08.jpg

[resendez]

so a stock rebuild would work for a turbo

[ShyBoyCA6]

good find but you need to check the off set

[resendez]

i gota find out all that before i get wheels but that will probably be one of the last things i do

[ShyBoyCA6]

just focus on the rebuild for now worry about the turbo later when you think your car needs it

[resendez]

that was my plan lol but idk wat rebuild kit tho cuz i dont no if stock pistons and stuff will handle the turbo wat do u think bro

[ShyBoyCA6]

eh you got me there you would have to read up on that on the turbo threads

[resendez]

will do bro thanks

[stat1K]

ok first, i posted the part number he needs for the gaskets, for bearings you can just go to a shop and ask what they can get you, again acl and rock are good products, there's actually a few shops near you like my friends Built By Notorious down on 7th ave and washington i think? granted that's probably pretty south of where you are but they are good and know what they're doing and can get you the right parts. also there is tri-tech near sky harbor, they're at 44th st and something, go over to azht.net and sign up if you're not a member and look them up in the vendors section.

second, why would he check the offset on wheels made by honda? ... yeah that's what i thought.

[Civic Accord Honda]

Are you serious right now? Please tell me youre trying to play a big joke on all of us...
+1

Japan biuld is good quality. Everything from china is cheap lead filled crap. There a reason they comparing them to the USA of the 1950's.
+1


i never once mentioned an american product... but you realize your car was made right here in america right? ohio to be exact.

as for quality standards, china has no quality control, whatever comes out comes out, sometimes you get decent stuff sometimes you get shit that brakes in a day, with something that i'm trusting my life with, ie my car, i'm not going to skimp and buy something cheap because it's cheap, i'm going to pay money for quality parts. but then again, i'm not you wei...
exactly.

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car looks decent man, daylight pics would be nice :p, engine looks really clean

[Tomisimo]

CAH, stop whoring threads.. :D

Dont forget, Honda engines are abit special when it comes to crank bearings, there is a number on crankshaft, that tells you main bearing Journal clearance, so thats the only thing you cant buy in advance, it have to be ordered after you have seen numbers, usually Honda auto parts site covers that aspect, you can choose right size for each and everyone of them.

[resendez]

ha ha thanks civic accord Honda and i will post some day pics

[resendez]

would it be possible to run a v-tec head on my car?

[Tomisimo]

no ^^

maybe, but I think it will be less expensive to just swap a vtec engine..

[stat1K]

CAH, stop whoring threads.. :D

Dont forget, Honda engines are abit special when it comes to crank bearings, there is a number on crankshaft, that tells you main bearing Journal clearance, so thats the only thing you cant buy in advance, it have to be ordered after you have seen numbers, usually Honda auto parts site covers that aspect, you can choose right size for each and everyone of them.

right which is what you will notice if you try to order the parts.

[stat1K]

no ^^

maybe, but I think it will be less expensive to just swap a vtec engine..

where did maybe come from?

[resendez]

how expensive?

[Tomisimo]

where did maybe come from?

haha.. you know cosworth takes a regular SIH engine and give it a 16V top, or Mercedes 2.3l SOCH, they gave it a 16V top, or better still, 2.5 diesel was converted to be a petrol and 16V engine..
Maybe is yes, anything possible if you have enough money.. but then again, like I said, the swap will be alot cheaper in the end..

[stat1K]

yeah i knew what you meant but again if someone's asking about what motor can i put in my car you and i both know that won't happen.

how expensive is what resendez? a swap?

it depends on what you want to do...

basic LS or B20 swap:

b20b/b18b1/a1 - 300-800 local (especially for you)
mounts - 300-350
axles 50-350 (depends on whether you rebuild your own with the right parts or buy some made for the application)
shift linkage - 10-100 (same deal, no one makes one but you can find someone to do it for you, all you have to do is cut and weld, shift linkage at the junkyard on 27ave and buckeye costs 19.05 or 10 on half off days.)
wiring - this is the part that costs the most more than likely, if you are not comfortable get someone else to do it. it's really not a huge change but i would suggest getting the obd1 conversion harness from lx-incredible and a jumper harness that way the ls motor is plug and play as obd1. his prices vary and he would need exact measurements to sensors and such so this would be a final step. definitely for his work you're going to be paying over 300... but everything will look factory and will work, if it doesn't he'll fix it. good thing is he is in tucson so if he needed to come up and look he could, but he doesn't work for free.

hoses, coolant, oil, bolts, nuts, gaskets, washers, etc... factor in another 200.

high end of an ls/b20 swap would be at or around 2k, low end would be around 900 if you did everything your self including wiring, which i would do myself but i was taught to do things properly by lx-incredible, before him my wiring was HORRID, since i've done quite a few harnesses on my own and they still don't look as good as his.

as for any other swap just substitute the price of the motor to figure out the rest... b16 would add about 400 to the high end of the motor price if you bought locally, more if you buy from hmotorsonline.com, good thing about hmotors is they're in LA so if you really wanted a motor you could go get it in about a day. gas would be more than shipping probably if you took a truck, but we've fit motors in the accord trunk before.

[Tomisimo]

Well there you have it rezendez.. there is not much to tell about this subject. I think that stat1K did a good jub making it clear for you..

My advice to you is, stop asking questions and do some work, read, research, learn from other threads.
And he is right, if you ask it will most likely not be done. its just how it is. After 4 years on this forum I've seen them all here, even been there my self but not that ambitious as you are.. but thats cool tho.

anyhow, keep us posted and updated on everything you do with your car..

shalom

[stat1K]

yeah it's annoying because i know for a fact i've done this same break down, and if people would search they would find these posts.

[resendez]

left my car on hold i had some set backs ticket and my clutch went out so that set me back but i want to get back on it. ive searched and searched nothing has really caught my eye yet still not sure wat to do about my car now that i realize the cost and work of a swap prolly not gunna do that. i just want some more ideas i dont want to get burnt on tho so if u can and want to help me out cool if not thats cool ill just wait and see what happends

[resendez]

some guy before me had the car in a tuner shop i think he had some internals done to it not sure every since i replaced my clutch i ben playing with my car and it hits how could i check.

[stat1K]

yeah only there are only custom made internals for the car, so my guess is he didn't.

[ShyBoyCA6]

wow this thread is still going? haha good thing you still posting bro

[LX-incredible]

yeah only there are only custom made internals for the car, so my guess is he didn't.

Bro car pulls mad around like 5k sounds different too. u sure there aint no vtech conv?

[stat1K]

probably does have vtech, i've seen one like that before... sick 5k it HITS!

[resendez]

i thought it was impossible to have a vtech a20a3 but ya like ill ride it then wen i get to 4g i hit it and it hits like it pulls pretty damn good. every one says a20a3 have no power and wat not but i roast 1st down the street then chirp pretty good going to second. and wen i was researching yesterday using the search button (i learned my lesson) i found some thing not sure if its for the a20 but is it true after like 4.5g the vacum opens another set of butter flys in the intake and that gives u power to red line with out loosing powerband just curious

[resendez]

ya shyboy im not giving up im still down for my car i still wanna ride bro. we wanna start a single cam crew and smash on dohc wen they laugh at our single cam. i got plans for my car trying to do them one at a time i just got fired so its kinda hard but not giving up.

[resendez]

does the a20a3 efi have fuel cutt off if it does how does it work does it completely shut ur car off or does it kick back in before it dies because i was trying to roast well i did but i roasted to 7g then it went down and i hit it again with out using clutch just gave it gas and it started burning again i was impressed by my car cuz all the bad rap on it. people always give me shit cuz its the most undesired honda out there thats y i want to make it a beast not just a swap i wanna do the hard stuff like custom the a20a3 and smash im so down for this

[ShyBoyCA6]

yeah and you get the 120 hp at 5500rpm you get like a lil kik to it haha and it sucks i cant even get that on mine still trying to figure out what i have....

[Tomisimo]

There you go, you have a Interest for it, make it happen :)

About the fuel cutoff, when lets say you drive downhill, you let your foot off the accelerator pedal, car stays in gear and just rolling down. at that point ECU shuts down fuel. Engine is running on inertia (its also referred to as Engine braking).

[resendez]

so the butterfly thing is true for a20a3's

[resendez]

so after a cretain amount of rpm's the fuel doesnt shut off

[resendez]

when i was reading about it some one reffered to it as pre vtec but every one says a20a3 is no good and has nothing to do with vtec or any performance technology so im not sure if its entirely true or not

[ShyBoyCA6]

you cant put vtec in a a20a3 but theres a thread on the b20vtec build
if you wanna swap it

[resendez]

naw not really looking to swap costs to much $$$ i would love t0 if i had the funds

[resendez]

shy boy is the butterfly thing true

[ShyBoyCA6]

what about the butterfly??

[resendez]

i found some thing not sure if its for the a20 but is it true after like 4.5g the vacum opens another set of butter flys in the intake and that gives u power to red line with out loosing powerband just curious

and u said

yeah and you get the 120 hp at 5500rpm you get like a lil kik to it haha and it sucks i cant even get that on mine still trying to figure out what i have....

[stephensimmons]

i found some thing not sure if its for the a20 but is it true after like 4.5g the vacum opens another set of butter flys in the intake and that gives u power to red line with out loosing powerband just curious

and u said

yeah and you get the 120 hp at 5500rpm you get like a lil kik to it haha and it sucks i cant even get that on mine still trying to figure out what i have....

Yes the butter fly thing is true.... well atleast i know mine has it. You have your throttle body that has one big butterfly in it that your throttle cable hooks to. Your intake manifold is a two peice and rite where it splits there is a bout one inch thick plate between the two peices and the other set of butterflies are in there (theres 4 of them, one for each runner) and if you look on the drivers side of the intake you will see the vaccum diaphram hooked to it that operates it.

[resendez]

im pretty sure mine has it to like it takes a couple seconds to get to like 4g in third then all the sudden boom hits 6g same with the other gears except 5th not sure i never pushed my car i only ben to like 90mph in my car and that was ok shifts and 5th gear to about 4g i wonder wat my car would top at with good shifts going all the way through the gears and redline 5th but prolly not a good idea with 225xxx miles but still curious

[resendez]

wat is the butterfly thing called like there's vtec wat would u call this

[ShyBoyCA6]

thats what its called i think

[resendez]

i didnt realize i was talking to u stephen i thought it was shyboy who responded but thats cool bro thanks for clarifying that.

[ShyBoyCA6]

lol man that was funny nah i didnt post cause your thread wasnt on new post so i couldnt find it man

[resendez]

not sure wat to say about the butterfly thing but on my car it is noticeable. i thought it had head work done but i guess this is wat i was noticing. wats the point of the extra butterfly's?

[resendez]

no prob bro i was totaly thinking it was u cuz ur the only to respond to it

[ShyBoyCA6]

oh alright haaha

[resendez]

i was thinking about taking cruise controll and ac out would this have any benefit

[ShyBoyCA6]

im pretty sure mine has it to like it takes a couple seconds to get to like 4g in third then all the sudden boom hits 6g same with the other gears except 5th not sure i never pushed my car i only ben to like 90mph in my car and that was ok shifts and 5th gear to about 4g i wonder wat my car would top at with good shifts going all the way through the gears and redline 5th but prolly not a good idea with 225xxx miles but still curious

cause you get power at 5000 or 5500 prm its like a boost kinda and for 5th gear it dont matter unless you going like 110 mph and shift at 5000 rpm the more the butterfly opens more air and more gas making it get that boost but its a gas killer

[ShyBoyCA6]

i was thinking about taking cruise controll and ac out would this have any benefit

only thing is weight reduction like 100lbs i think more or less

[resendez]

yes it definetly does take gas and mine hits at like 4.5g and my second gear will do 50mph wen i hit the boost thing so y does every one hate on the a20a3 and wen i do it in first i chirp second pretty good

[resendez]

whoa cruise control and a/c will reduce 100lbs

[ShyBoyCA6]

yes it definetly does take gas and mine hits at like 4.5g and my second gear will do 50mph wen i hit the boost thing so y does every one hate on the a20a3 and wen i do it in first i chirp second pretty good

well they hate on it cause its a 4 banger lack of power hardly any parts for this car and cause its a honda so people pick on these cars cause they are not fast and the design of the car but those people just haters screw them

[resendez]

hell ya bro im pretty damn impressed with my car

[ShyBoyCA6]

thats good man just do what you got to do just maintain a good motor

[resendez]

thats my plan and i wanna cut my springs and how possible would it be to make my own cold aair intake like run a tube from the throttle body straight down to the fender or some thing is that ideal and how effective is cold air

[ShyBoyCA6]

i think some mention a cb7 intake and cutting it down to fit

[stat1K]

90-97 accord or 90-93 integra intakes are the easiest to modify.

please buy lowering springs if you want to lower your car, don't cut your springs.

[stephensimmons]

not sure wat to say about the butterfly thing but on my car it is noticeable. i thought it had head work done but i guess this is wat i was noticing. wats the point of the extra butterfly's?

If you took the upper plenum of the intake off an look at the lower you would see two sets of openings on each intake runner. One of them is a smaller opening and the other is the one with the butterfly in it. The purpose of the setup is to let you run off the smaller runners(to keep the little torque we do have up at lower rpms) for normal driving and when you get up in rpms the butterflys opens along with the smaller runners so the engine can breath to make the whole 120hp that we have!

[ShyBoyCA6]

If you took the upper plenum of the intake off an look at the lower you would see two sets of openings on each intake runner. One of them is a smaller opening and the other is the one with the butterfly in it. The purpose of the setup is to let you run off the smaller runners(to keep the little torque we do have up at lower rpms) for normal driving and when you get up in rpms the butterflys opens along with the smaller runners so the engine can breath to make the whole 120hp that we have!

Wooooo!!!!!!! A20a3 power!!!!! Haha its better than nothing but good power for an accord and I love my car

[2drSE-i]

ohemgee the VTEC conversation is complete fail...

The 88-89 accords had a dual stage intake manifold. Its not VTEC or anything of the sort. At a certain RPM the secondary butterflys in the intake manifold open up, providing more air to the engine.

VTEC, on the other hand, provides a different cam lobe, altering how and when the valves inside the motor open and close, providing more aggressive (read: more power) air flow in/out of the motor.

You really can't even compare the two. What stephen said is spot on.

[stat1K]

nah dog, his car was converted to VTECH (with an h).

it's different...

where have you been these last years man, get with the mad tyte program.

[LX-incredible]

Vtech ftmtjdmfw!

[Tomisimo]

you guys are killing me lol.. Please hehe. Stop bushing on the new guy :D

[2drSE-i]

you guys are killing me lol.. Please hehe. Stop bushing on the new guy :D

No newb bashing here. More like 3geez "Vet" bashing. Who cares how many posts you have, when you say things like "Its kinda like vtec"....LOL

[resendez]

a buddy of mine said buy bigger springs and cut those so it still holds the weight but u dont bounce so if u cut the small ones we have it will lower it but not as strong of springs and ya i love my honda it does pretty good not compared to a vtec but still holds up my friends b20 i think witha k series trans not sure blows me away his vtec kills me

[LX-incredible]

Dude, I wonder if a 6-speed k trans will bolt up to the A20 like it does to the b20...

[resendez]

i was just talking about that today in auto i think a k series will link to an a series

[Tomisimo]

the K series trany is hydro and cable shift thing.. dont make fool of yourself now.
It sure will, with some addapting and welding.. Kswap would be easier, I'm assure you.

[resendez]

k series engine swap?

[stat1K]

oh lord.

[LX-incredible]

the K series trany is hydro and cable shift thing.. dont make fool of yourself now.
It sure will, with some addapting and welding.. Kswap would be easier, I'm assure you.

Whee! 6 gears of reverse and one drive!

When did you become a mod?

[LX-incredible]

k series engine swap?

Buy the motor and trans and I'll come up and fabricate the mounts and wiring harness for you.

[resendez]

lx incredible u would be down to help me out

[Tomisimo]

Whee! 6 gears of reverse and one drive!

When did you become a mod?

why? is K have different rotation? than A?

I been a mod as long as Project Central was up and running. Did you not noticed that?

[LX-incredible]

lx incredible u would be down to help me out

Yeah dude, you get the motor and trans and I'll help install. I will of course need to make a copy of whatever harness and mounts we use.

[resendez]

can u only do k series or can u do other mounts and stuff im trying to get my hands on an f22 and put an h vtec head make it a g is that right?

[LX-incredible]

why? is K have different rotation? than A?

I been a mod as long as Project Central was up and running. Did you not noticed that?

Yeah, the rotation is different since the trans is mounted on the opposite side.

Oh, okay, forgot about that. Congrats!

[ShyBoyCA6]

f22 sucks go with the F20b son you talking mad power like the h22 maybe even a bit more

[Tomisimo]

Yeah, the rotation is different since the trans is mounted on the opposite side.

Yes I forgot about that, its on drivers side now with those new engines. indeed.

He said he will help with K swap, this is exiting exercise. I bet the TSX K24 is not that hard to find or K20 RSX.

[resendez]

f20 is better than f22

[Tomisimo]

F20b is better than F22a yes.

F20b was an experimental engine for S2000, it was prototyped to see all cooling an oil journals was right.. this is why its stays upright, alltho its basically a destroked H22a, and was used only in Honda Torneo models.. its rated with 200Hp if manual and 190 if auto..
But its not easy find, you need to import the engine..

[ShyBoyCA6]

yeah i posted a thread on that engine with all the specs and what not that engine has 197hp close to the h22 but the f20 has a blue top doch vetc so you can say they are like the same but different set up

heres the thread
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71363

[Tomisimo]

I did some reading on this engine some time ago, and some people say that note it makes is so special, and muckh lighter rewing than H22. in some applications with right tune its sharper trotle response and feels quicker. I think it would have been nice swap, uniq and great power output as well.

[stat1K]

lol this thread just keeps getting better and better.

my favorite quote ever i believe was said here, can't remember who said it.

someone says, "i want to put an mr2 motor in my honda."

to which someone replies, "why? so you can have 1 forward gear and 5 really fast reverse gears? .... like french tanks?"

[resendez]

i cant do import i need to find some one local

[stat1K]

... sigh.

[2ndGenGuy]

lol this thread just keeps getting better and better.

my favorite quote ever i believe was said here, can't remember who said it.

someone says, "i want to put an mr2 motor in my honda."

to which someone replies, "why? so you can have 1 forward gear and 5 really fast reverse gears? .... like french tanks?"

It was a quote from lost on a disaster of a 240SX subframe / rearend / firewall / chassis / body / mac strut conversion / nevergonnahappen thread.

http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62518&highlight=french+tanks&page=4

[stat1K]

THANKS! that will be my forever sig quote, i knew it was on here.

i think i remember it better than it was stated though, lol...

[charliekuney]

someone says, "i want to put an mr2 motor in my honda."

to which someone replies, "why? so you can have 1 forward gear and 5 really fast reverse gears? .... like french tanks?"

I asked if I could put an '89 Legend's engine in my car, and someone gave me that answer.

[stat1K]

yeah it's interchangeable with any motor that spins clockwise, hence lx-incredible's comment about the k-motor, same would go for an R motor, an L motor, you get the point hopefully.

[resendez]

update on my car its little but its an update i did and injector wire tuck pulled the wire under the rail now just injectors thats it its pretty nice tho.

[resendez]

ha ha its a start lol

[ShyBoyCA6]

update on my car its little but its an update i did and injector wire tuck pulled the wire under the rail now just injectors thats it its pretty nice tho.

We want pics!!!!

[resendez]

pics up tomarrow i want to attempt a wire tuck but not sure yet

[stat1K]

of him unplugging the injectors and routing the wires under the rail? i did this last weekend when i rewired my tps... it's hard to unplug and replug things. do get us pictures!

[resendez]

i will and how did u re wire it like to tuck it

[LX-incredible]

can u only do k series or can u do other mounts and stuff im trying to get my hands on an f22 and put an h vtec head make it a g is that right?

No... a g would be taking 2 f20s, chopping off a cylinder from one and adding to the other, then mounting it longitudinal.

I'd be down to do that as well. Mounts would be the same as the H22. I'm not going to fuck around troubleshooting with a greasy 200k motor from the local pick and pull though.

[LX-incredible]

of him unplugging the injectors and routing the wires under the rail? I did this last weekend when i rewired my tps... It's hard to unplug and replug things. Do get us pictures!

Pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[resendez]

makes sense bro

[resendez]

right now im pretty damn proud of my car. on Monday about 9:00pm i was on 67th and Glendale and it was an empty street i made the light but the people behind me didnt so all the sudden here comes this nissan 200sx with a pipe and lowered flew by me i dropped it in 3rd i was just cruising 5th and i hit it i smashed him in third like 75. then we got on grand and i let him go so i can role a little then dropped it to second and cought up then double clutched 3rd and pulled on him were doing at least 90 down grand did not think my car would hold up but it did i was really impressed with it (i love my Honda) and i no he was trying lol.

[stat1K]

yeah dude, i don't know why people talk up the nissans so much, even the turbo cars run like 18 second quarter miles. and with the exhaust and lowering springs/coilovers you know he had something good under the hood.

good kill man, post up more stories as you own some more cars, i remember one time my buddy thought his camaro was fast (f-body) i took him in a light to light race on 7th ave in my accord, we were doing like 100+ and his v8 just couldn't hold up. true story bro.

[resendez]

i only got one thing to say I LOVE HONDA

[resendez]

especially mine

[resendez]

i got pics

[resendez]

the injector wire tuck not much but i like it got rid of the black case over it



http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/adrianresendez/AwesomexD018.jpg

[ShyBoyCA6]

i got pics

Ok well I only see one pic.. where's the rest?

[resendez]

didnt get to post them yet

[resendez]

can any one please tell me what the thing is on top of the tranny that the power steering lines go to

[2drSE-i]

can any one please tell me what the thing is on top of the tranny that the power steering lines go to

Please go buy a Haynes manual. As for your question, its called the power steering rack.

[resendez]

i have one in my car right now but some pages are missing lol and wat does it do my auto teacher couldnt even tell me

[ShyBoyCA6]

........

[Pico]

I am so Subscribed to this thread

[2drSE-i]

I'll see if i can describe it without making an ass out of myself.


Its basically a hydraulic gear that assists you in moving your wheels. Much like your power brakes, it uses fluid to push/pull your tie rods.

Like i said, very lamens and I'm fairly certain I'm saying it wrong, but thats the jest of it.

[ShyBoyCA6]

:facepalm:

[2drSE-i]

:facepalm:

Now now, remember your roots.

[ShyBoyCA6]

i know i know but how hard is it just to search for the name of whats what i know theres a diagram of the car with all the name of the parts

[2drSE-i]

Its not very hard. Its not hard to answer them either. I hate spoon feeding personally, but we are all about knowledge exchange on 3geez, and its nice to be able to help somebody out.

[ShyBoyCA6]

true dat and speaking of help im taking a mechanics class and ive been working on my car there so far nothing yet no improvement on the car with its performance did a compression on it and check at 150psi each so its ok still looking for the problem and taking notes if anybody else has this problem down the road well as i was saying they have this program to diagnose and test and specs for people that dont know anything and easy to understand for beginners or if someone knows but forgot ill get the info for you guys ill make a thread for it if someone needs it to be sure of what they are doing before causing more problems to their cars..

[LX-incredible]

Please go buy a Haynes manual. As for your question, its called the power steering rack.

Eeh rong it's teh speed sensor whey.

Edit: Seriously, speed sensor.

[charliekuney]

It's definitely the vacuum line for the blinker fluid overflow box.

[LX-incredible]

:lol:

[stat1K]

yeah i don't know what he's talking about at all but charlie should know what's up.

[charliekuney]

I was so tired last night. I seriously don't remember typing that.

[resendez]

ill definetly check that out charlie thanks

[resendez]

alright so a little update not sureif its an update but i just owned another car tobight. i was on 67th and glendale some guy reved at me as i was leaving my girls appartment so i said cool just so happends we were the only two cars so we lighned up at the light he had a pretty nice exhaust goin so he was reving i reved just to let him no i was down soo i held it at like 3.5k and waited for the light it changed and we were gone he was in 4th by the time i was in second and i was still ahead of him in 2nd gear so we came to a stop at the next light he decided he wanted more so we reved again i let off sloww to let him go then i hit it and all the sudden i started spining idk how i got it to spin but they were then i spun second and he was ahead as i let him then i cought and flew by him i didnt switch 3rd till about 6.5k redlined then i heard him try to double clutch but he letout slow so his clutch was slipping a little he didnt pop it and i took him then the next light same thing but i had traction the whole way up and the light was right in front of an over pass and he hadme half way up then the secondary butterflies opend i could hear it especially since i was on it so hard and took him again i cant believe my car did that i ate him out and im sure he had stuff done cuz his exhaust and his car was lowered and he was bumping i love my car how is this possible i under estimated my car so much he was on the streets before this wasnt his first race so idk how i took him and he was driving and older eclipse i believe but damn how did my car do that i was running on jesus juice or some thing it was amazing lol

[resendez]

how can a bone stock a20a3 do such a thing i dont understand oh and the day before i did a bad ass burn out i have a vid once my boy sends it to me ill try topost it

[LX-incredible]

how can a bone stock a20a3 do such a thing

Anything's possible with an idiot behind the wheel.

[ShyBoyCA6]

Wow lol well ill race you bro if your down I bet ill lose but fuck it let see how good you are at shifting

[ShyBoyCA6]

Anything's possible with an idiot behind the wheel.

Lol man true that haha couldn't agree more

[2drSE-i]

Can we stick a fork in this thread? seriously....

[charliekuney]

alright so a little update not sureif its an update but i just owned another car tobight. i was on 67th and glendale some guy reved at me as i was leaving my girls appartment so i said cool just so happends we were the only two cars so we lighned up at the light he had a pretty nice exhaust goin so he was reving i reved just to let him no i was down soo i held it at like 3.5k and waited for the light it changed and we were gone he was in 4th by the time i was in second and i was still ahead of him in 2nd gear so we came to a stop at the next light he decided he wanted more so we reved again i let off sloww to let him go then i hit it and all the sudden i started spining idk how i got it to spin but they were then i spun second and he was ahead as i let him then i cought and flew by him i didnt switch 3rd till about 6.5k redlined then i heard him try to double clutch but he letout slow so his clutch was slipping a little he didnt pop it and i took him then the next light same thing but i had traction the whole way up and the light was right in front of an over pass and he hadme half way up then the secondary butterflies opend i could hear it especially since i was on it so hard and took him again i cant believe my car did that i ate him out and im sure he had stuff done cuz his exhaust and his car was lowered and he was bumping i love my car how is this possible i under estimated my car so much he was on the streets before this wasnt his first race so idk how i took him and he was driving and older eclipse i believe but damn how did my car do that i was running on jesus juice or some thing it was amazing lol

Take a long, hard look at your keyboard. Stare at the "m" button. Then go over to the "," button. What's that next to it? The period. Start using it.


Can we stick a fork in this thread? seriously....

I imagined you trying to stick a fork in a little annoying animal (such as a rat) running around. Succeeding, you then watched a little rat run around with a fork in its back.

[2drSE-i]

I imagined you trying to stick a fork in a little annoying animal (such as a rat) running around. Succeeding, you then watched a little rat run around with a fork in its back.
I just meant that it should be done.

[charliekuney]

I was trying to say that it won't stop the damn thing... (:

[Pico]

So what does this racing story have to do with the title of the thread?

[resendez]

i posted one up before and some one said let us no wen u own new cars, and i did thats y i posted it. and no not an idiot but i am 16 just bein a kid while i can. its fun so i see it as y not.

[resendez]

hell ya shy boy im down. and at first i was ricer i would drive fast every were now i just cruise and wait for chances like this to go hard. so pm if ur still down

[LX-incredible]

Take a long, hard look at your keyboard. Stare at the "m" button. Then go over to the "," button. What's that next to it? The period. Start using it.



I imagined you trying to stick a fork in a little annoying animal (such as a rat) running around. Succeeding, you then watched a little rat run around with a fork in its back.

:lol:

[Harrison_Bergeron]

i ate him out

Most interesting part of that whole jumble of words; I'm thinking maybe I don't want to be a 3g person.

[2drSE-i]

. and no not an idiot but i am 16 just bein a kid while i can. its fun so i see it as y not.

Dude, all I'm going to say is, do your own thing. When you get arrested, or worse die in a car wreck due to your own idiocy (yes i said idiocy, because you are being an idiot) don't come crying on here.


Most interesting part of that whole jumble of words; I'm thinking maybe I don't want to be a 3g person.

LOL your posting that made me KNOW your a 3g person

[resendez]

harrison mabey that was a little to much sorry about that every one. i was pumped about the whole thing i got carried away.

[resendez]

2drse-i i blame no one but my self for my actions. i wont come crying trust me u guise did not contribute to this at all so i will have no reason too. and ya some might call it being an idiot but oh well its all part of the experience. ill grow out of it ill grow up one day im sure.

[stat1K]

you know your actions affect other people as well not just you right?

[Civic Accord Honda]

wait.... wat....you did what with him? you ate him out after you beat him?!?!? shouldn't you of been the one getting the reward for winning??

[resendez]

ha ha thats funny but its just what we say wen we win ''we ate him out'' or ''he'll eat you out'' just some thing we say wasnt meant to be taken literally.

[charliekuney]

and no not an idiot but i am 16 just bein a kid while i can. its fun so i see it as y not.

16 and idiot are synonymous. Every 16yo thinks they're invincible, I know I did. After I got in my wreck, everything changed. I haven't driven nearly as recklessly (although I am working my way out of my third ticket). Be careful. Just because something bad didn't happen this time, doesn't mean it never will. You'll consider yourself a complete asstard the day you crash your car and hurt someone else. My best friend was in the car and I'll never forget how bad she was hurt...


Dude, all I'm going to say is, do your own thing. When you get arrested, or worse die in a car wreck due to your own idiocy (yes i said idiocy, because you are being an idiot) don't come crying on here.


you know your actions affect other people as well not just you right?

x2

[stat1K]

ha ha thats funny but its just what we say wen we win ''we ate him out'' or ''he'll eat you out'' just some thing we say wasnt meant to be taken literally.

that's the gayest thing i've ever heard.

i'm gonna start a new one, when i rip on someone i'm gonna be like, "man you see me? i totally sucked that guys dick!"


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[charliekuney]

^ :bowrofl:

[Civic Accord Honda]

:rofl: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[cubert]

I cant believe I haven't been following this thread...between the stories of double clutching and eating the guy with a nice exhaust out, its almost impossible to think what the next story will bring!

[ShyBoyCA6]

lol damn renesdez you really putting yo self out there hahaha i as a man would never say that lol .this thread is getting funnier as it goes on.

[resendez]

i just say it like it is im not afraid to get made fun of its all good im not gunna let people bring me down but the responces are pretty dam funny especially since stat1k said hes gunna suck the guys dick pretty funny but would never say that personally. but ya ima stay on here u guys talk all u want its good i put my self out there so i deserve it.

[resendez]

charlie im really sorrry to hear that bro. not saying this is good but when i do stuff like that im by my self.

[charliekuney]

I've gone 130 on the freeway. I've done the same with someone in the passenger seat. The difference is: I have a second life on my hands, and that much more pressure to go faster. Do the math.

[Harrison_Bergeron]

You may want to spend some time on urban dictionary, what Stat1k said isn't really any worse than what you said.


the responces are pretty dam funny especially since stat1k said hes gunna suck the guys dick pretty funny but would never say that personally.

[LX-incredible]

ha ha thats funny but its just what we say wen we win ''we ate him out'' or ''he'll eat you out'' just some thing we say


"man you see me? i totally sucked that guys dick!"


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Just when I thought this thread couldn't possibly get any gayer... Nice work.







lol.

[resendez]

charlie i dont realy understand what u mean by that bro.

[charliekuney]

I forgot my point.

[resendez]

alright but i would not do these things with people in the car not saying its good but better. (not really)

[stat1K]

man i didn't just beat him, i beat him off!