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CzEcHy
01-30-2010, 12:57 PM
Alright, income tax time.

The really blue headlights you see from vehicles on the highway are projectors correct?

I know they are possible for the 3g (correct me if I'm mistaken).

I just need a simple list.


-Best housing (size, brand, website..)
-Best bulbs (I want them clearly blue, not a hint of blue.)
-Will I need to do any rewiring? Or is it a simple take out and replace the new housings?


Anything else I need to know would be great.

I'd just like some experience posts, from people who have actually done it.

STITCHES
01-30-2010, 07:18 PM
I plan on doing a conversion to my '87 hatch. The bulb and housing are currently one integrated piece.

I bought these on Amazon. They still haven't come in yet. I'll post some pics when they get here.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001QTB4D6/ref=oss_product

Though I don't plan on using those bulbs since I also ordered this kit.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AQD89S/ref=oss_product

They have different temps but I read that around 6k is optimal light output.

But if you wanna just change the housings and bulbs is seems that's all you would need to do.

ShyBoyCA6
01-30-2010, 07:23 PM
i have the projector set up i have a thread on it

heres the thread
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71283

lostforawhile
01-30-2010, 07:30 PM
I recommend you get four quality bosch relays, and create a light harness to take the load off of the combination switch, they were factory overloaded from day one, and some of them are discontinued now. the main problem with the combo switch is the contact burns on the low beam side. if you create a harness with four Bosch relays, and four fuses running straight from the battery, like original, you want four fuses and a main fuse, this prevents both high beams or both low beams from going at the same time, this changes the load to nothing but the parking lamps on the switch and signal loads. it also makes your lights brighter due to a shorter path for the current to take

ghettogeddy
01-30-2010, 07:36 PM
i sa autopal 200mm h4's over the crappy ebay projector housings

Civic Accord Honda
01-30-2010, 07:38 PM
people should search before buying things..oh well let them find out the hard way .

lostforawhile
01-30-2010, 07:40 PM
so the amazon ones aren't any good?

Civic Accord Honda
01-30-2010, 07:40 PM
Alright, income tax time.

The really blue headlights you see from vehicles on the highway are projectors correct?

I know they are possible for the 3g (correct me if I'm mistaken).

I just need a simple list.


-Best housing (size, brand, website..)
-Best bulbs (I want them clearly blue, not a hint of blue.)
-Will I need to do any rewiring? Or is it a simple take out and replace the new housings?


Anything else I need to know would be great.

I'd just like some experience posts, from people who have actually done it.

not projectors you can get blue H4 bulbs along with hella headlight conversion kit or autopals (not the euro style)
i recommend luminics bulbs, i have a set of ultra white one in my accord, and you can get them in blue ultra blue purple pink etc

ShyBoyCA6
01-30-2010, 08:06 PM
i sa autopal 200mm h4's over the crappy ebay projector housings

i agree with you ghettoteddy they are shit when you pass a streetlight you cant even see it light up the road and the light aint that bright with the projectors as you can see from the pics and the high beams are even worse they go way to high and dont light up the road...

i think your just better off buying the hellas or autopals headlights you dont need to convert anything with the housing cause its replaceable with the h4 bulbs so it would be better and not do all that wiring and save you money

ShyBoyCA6
01-30-2010, 08:10 PM
people should search before buying things..oh well let them find out the hard way .

oh i learned the hard way CAH screw the projectors lol

CzEcHy
01-31-2010, 06:58 PM
So hella h4s sound alright.. what size is our housing? And what's a good site to get them? And the luminacs blue will work ya? Will they be a deep blue or what?

ghettogeddy
01-31-2010, 07:00 PM
So hella h4s sound alright.. what size is our housing? And what's a good site to get them? And the luminacs blue will work ya? Will they be a deep blue or what?

save money go autopal there the same cutoff half the price
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/200mm-H6054-H4-EURO-CONVERSION-HEADLIGHTS-KIT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4cece80412QQitemZ33 0392142866QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcce ssories#ht_2668wt_1165

ShyBoyCA6
01-31-2010, 07:02 PM
i got my hellas for 101 bucks and its the kit on rallylights.com i was like fuck thats pricey but they have the ones with the kit and just the lamp for like 50bucks a lamp

mushroom_toy
01-31-2010, 07:58 PM
Hella, Cibie, or even Autopals...if you want real projectors look up Hella DE cateyes...although they arr nearly impossible to find and might cost more than the car. :( Or make a custom setup but use good glass. Just say no to ebay lights..

CzEcHy
01-31-2010, 08:51 PM
save money go autopal there the same cutoff half the price
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/200mm-H6054-H4-EURO-CONVERSION-HEADLIGHTS-KIT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4cece80412QQitemZ33 0392142866QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcce ssories#ht_2668wt_1165

Those are fine, just want something I can use my own bulbs in.

Are those going to have a weird light pattern? They say euro style..

Also, what are the options for bulbs with those, how do I pick a compatible one?

ghettogeddy
01-31-2010, 09:02 PM
Those are fine, just want something I can use my own bulbs in.

Are those going to have a weird light pattern? They say euro style..

Also, what are the options for bulbs with those, how do I pick a compatible one?

h4 most basic and redily availa ble bulb on the market

i have oshram/silvania silverstars and ill tell you what once you get those bad boys in your gona fall in love
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H4-Silverstar-50-OSRAM-auto-lamp_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3efbac8043QQitemZ2 70510358595QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcc essories#ht_500wt_1182

the cut off pattern is nearly identical to the hella's

the one thing i did that most dont is i upgraded my lights wiring harness so i have direct battery and the lights are just turned on from the switch as normal but they are not powered through the stock harness
that makes a huge difference in brightness

CzEcHy
01-31-2010, 11:19 PM
h4 most basic and redily availa ble bulb on the market

i have oshram/silvania silverstars and ill tell you what once you get those bad boys in your gona fall in love
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H4-Silverstar-50-OSRAM-auto-lamp_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3efbac8043QQitemZ2 70510358595QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcc essories#ht_500wt_1182

the cut off pattern is nearly identical to the hella's

the one thing i did that most dont is i upgraded my lights wiring harness so i have direct battery and the lights are just turned on from the switch as normal but they are not powered through the stock harness
that makes a huge difference in brightness


So those silverstars come out blue? Works for me, I use silverstar sealed beams atm and they are nice (just not blue, or as bright as some cars)

ghettogeddy
02-01-2010, 12:04 AM
you dont really want blue there def gona be a bright white and you will see a huge difference form sealed beam silverstars to h4 in autopal housings

this is the only pic i have of them atm
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/ghettogeddy/101_1462.jpg

and my clear corners with orange led's
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/ghettogeddy/101_1458.jpg

labeledsk8r
02-01-2010, 03:10 AM
if you want REAL hids, you have to custom make the projector to fit into a houseing, just buying a case made for h4's will not work and will give no cutoff. find some from a newer bmw or TL/TSX and install into houseings, its the only way to really do it for hid's


no i will say you can get nice bulbs that will give the effect for alot less of a price and ease of install, i will second the luminics bulbs, had a set of purples in my girls car for almost a year now and its a great bulb, nice light nice color not bad for under 35 shiped either

Sh4d0w
02-01-2010, 05:25 AM
if you want REAL hids, you have to custom make the projector to fit into a houseing, just buying a case made for h4's will not work and will give no cutoff. find some from a newer bmw or TL/TSX and install into houseings, its the only way to really do it for hid's


no i will say you can get nice bulbs that will give the effect for alot less of a price and ease of install, i will second the luminics bulbs, had a set of purples in my girls car for almost a year now and its a great bulb, nice light nice color not bad for under 35 shiped either

on those luminics, which size did you order? I tried using the little finder thing but it only goes back to 1990 on the accords.

labeledsk8r
02-01-2010, 08:39 AM
on those luminics, which size did you order? I tried using the little finder thing but it only goes back to 1990 on the accords.

H4 bulb but be carefull as they have a few diffrent wattages, i had orderd the 100/90 watt ones on accident when i wanted 50/60's for the civic so i could use the stock wireing harness

the 100/90s would work but you would have to run a new headlight harness like what lost was talking about, since the glass H4 houseings for the accords arnt plastic you have no worries ov melting cases (unlike the worrie i woulda had if i used them on the civic)


if your interested in going the higherpowerd one with a harness let me know asi iwll let this set go for cheep as i have no use for them

Sh4d0w
02-01-2010, 07:00 PM
H4 bulb but be carefull as they have a few diffrent wattages, i had orderd the 100/90 watt ones on accident when i wanted 50/60's for the civic so i could use the stock wireing harness

the 100/90s would work but you would have to run a new headlight harness like what lost was talking about, since the glass H4 houseings for the accords arnt plastic you have no worries ov melting cases (unlike the worrie i woulda had if i used them on the civic)




yea, pm me. I'll take em off your hands.

Sh4d0w
02-01-2010, 07:03 PM
the one thing i did that most dont is i upgraded my lights wiring harness so i have direct battery and the lights are just turned on from the switch as normal but they are not powered through the stock harness
that makes a huge difference in brightness

Is there a thread on this?


edit: sorry for double post

charliekuney
02-01-2010, 07:24 PM
How probable is this effect? [spread of light]

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/Prettyboi_22_/GetAttachmentaspx6.jpg

It looks ridiculous. My headlamps sort of do the same thing and I hate it.

CzEcHy
02-01-2010, 09:00 PM
Autopals and the luminics ultra white 55/60w's sound alright to people?


Apparently ultra blue = illegal, and I already have speeding tickets I don't want to draw more attention..



About the wiring harness, if I wanted 90/100w or w/e they are, the krypton series, what would I need to adjust on the wiring harness and how hard is it?

I'm decent with wiring, it's just annoying to me and I'm afraid of breaking the old Honda wires (if I have to mess with them)

ShyBoyCA6
02-01-2010, 09:03 PM
How probable is this effect? [spread of light]

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/Prettyboi_22_/GetAttachmentaspx6.jpg

It looks ridiculous. My headlamps sort of do the same thing and I hate it.

lol yup thats my car stupid projectors lol and the beam is not strong

ghettogeddy
02-01-2010, 09:30 PM
Autopals and the luminics ultra white 55/60w's sound alright to people?


Apparently ultra blue = illegal, and I already have speeding tickets I don't want to draw more attention..



About the wiring harness, if I wanted 90/100w or w/e they are, the krypton series, what would I need to adjust on the wiring harness and how hard is it?

I'm decent with wiring, it's just annoying to me and I'm afraid of breaking the old Honda wires (if I have to mess with them)

if you buy a pre made harness all you do is plug it into the left side headlight plug and wire the power wires to the battery

labeledsk8r
02-01-2010, 10:56 PM
the harness looks something like this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HARNESS-Relay-9003-H4-Hi-Low-Headlight-Wire-Kit-HID_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5ad63de1bfQQitemZ39 0141436351QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcce ssories

ghettogeddy
02-02-2010, 01:52 AM
the harness looks something like this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HARNESS-Relay-9003-H4-Hi-Low-Headlight-Wire-Kit-HID_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5ad63de1bfQQitemZ39 0141436351QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcce ssories

thank you for taking the time to find it lol i was being lazy earlier and im drunk now lol

CzEcHy
02-02-2010, 04:19 PM
So with the normal 60 watts will I need a harness for the luminics and autopals?

CzEcHy
02-02-2010, 04:56 PM
So with the normal 60 watts will I need a harness for the luminics and autopals?

ShyBoyCA6
02-02-2010, 05:02 PM
would that harness work on the 3g labelskater? just curious since i order bulbs for 85 watts to 100..

and if you want the prjectors ill sell them to you lol

Sh4d0w
02-02-2010, 10:56 PM
ugh... this kind of effect is NOT what I am going for... is it what can be expected with these bulbs?

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/Prettyboi_22_/GetAttachmentaspx6.jpg

Rendon LX-i
02-03-2010, 01:11 AM
yup...best bet is hella or auto pals with hids or silverstars if you want a stock bright headlight

Hazwan
02-03-2010, 04:58 AM
That harness should work on 3g and you can pretty much see the difference with headlight brightness even with stock sealed beams.

carotman
02-03-2010, 05:31 AM
Nobody Mentions the BOSCH housings.

I got those on the Sedan and they're just awesome

CzEcHy
02-03-2010, 07:27 AM
the harness looks something like this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HARNESS-Relay-9003-H4-Hi-Low-Headlight-Wire-Kit-HID_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5ad63de1bfQQitemZ39 0141436351QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcce ssories



So that's the right one? You have one by chance?

I don't want to buy that one if you have the same kind, how much for yours?

I'm buying the autopals as we speak.. I'd like to run 90/100w bulbs tho so I need the harness


ALSO..

This one -

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/200mm-H6054-H4-DOT-EURO-CONVERSION-HEADLIGHTS-KIT_W0QQitemZ230186287608QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors _Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item35982c01f8

or this one -

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/200mm-H6054-H4-EURO-CONVERSION-HEADLIGHTS-KIT_W0QQitemZ330326008563QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors _Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item4ce8f6e2f3

CzEcHy
02-04-2010, 08:37 AM
Not to be a pest, but I need confirmation on the correct housing and whether or not to buy that harness.

Im anxious to get them

labeledsk8r
02-04-2010, 08:52 AM
yes that is the correct harness you need to run that setup,

also i saw someone asking if you need the harness to run luminics. wich it will depend wich ones you get as they have H4s in stock volatages and in the higher volatages. so be carefull when buying if you dont want to run the upgrade harness.

heres the lower volatage setup on my girls civic, the cam filterd out alot of the blueish color and its raining lol

with flash on
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/labeledsk8r/001-1.jpg

cam flash off
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/labeledsk8r/003-1.jpg

those are the 7,050K bulbs at the stock 55/60 wattage.

i have the 100/90 bulbs aswell wich would need the harness only reason we didnt run them in the civic was due to the civics headlights are plastic and the added heat would melt the hell outa them. but that would be no problem for the glass caseings for the 3gee

CzEcHy
02-04-2010, 09:05 AM
Great thanks, and the housing? Do I need the DOT approved ones or other style?

They are both autopals 200mm euro style, just one is not DOT approved


Also I'm having trouble finding any bulbs on ebay higher than 55/60w, could someone help me out with the correct one? I really don't want to order a wrong part, since I'd have to ship it back instead of driving it to the store or something

Luminics Ultra white krypton 90/100w or w/e (I'm getting the harness)

labeledsk8r
02-04-2010, 09:44 AM
Great thanks, and the housing? Do I need the DOT approved ones or other style?

They are both autopals 200mm euro style, just one is not DOT approved


Also I'm having trouble finding any bulbs on ebay higher than 55/60w, could someone help me out with the correct one? I really don't want to order a wrong part, since I'd have to ship it back instead of driving it to the store or something

Luminics Ultra white krypton 90/100w or w/e (I'm getting the harness)

i have a set of 90/100s in the 7,050 it gives a slight blueish purple look, when sitting at a light next to a newer bmw or acura TL the light looks identical, for ultra whites ima have to get back to ya as i havent looked around for there bulbs in a while

2ndGenGuy
02-04-2010, 10:24 AM
90 watt low beams? Won't that be bright as fuck and just blind everybody? If you want more light why not get a set of running lights that can be turned off and put the high wattage bulbs in those? It's the same amount of work if you're rewiring, plus you have another set of lights instead of losing your 55/60s.

labeledsk8r
02-04-2010, 10:32 AM
its actully not that bad and since they use normal cuttoffs it will be fine, now HIDs are a difrent story as witout a proper houseing they have no cuttoff

think of it as a house light turn on a 60 watt bulb then turn on a desk lamp its brighter but not alot same idea mostly LOL

CzEcHy
02-04-2010, 10:58 AM
90 watt low beams? Won't that be bright as fuck and just blind everybody? If you want more light why not get a set of running lights that can be turned off and put the high wattage bulbs in those? It's the same amount of work if you're rewiring, plus you have another set of lights instead of losing your 55/60s.

Makes people move out of the way lol..

Anyway should I get the DOT or non-DOT housings.. I don't know which one will give me a weird light pattern..

2ndGenGuy
02-04-2010, 11:19 AM
Makes people move out of the way lol..

Unless they're coming at you. Bright lights really piss me off.

mushroom_toy
02-04-2010, 03:16 PM
This is how mine look. Not the best in the world, but plenty bright and do not blind people in front of me. Hella Ecodes with 35w 4500k hid setup.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/JubeiMunchCurry/More%20Car/IMGP4255.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/JubeiMunchCurry/More%20Car/IMGP4243.jpg

ShyBoyCA6
02-04-2010, 03:48 PM
ill be getting some hella bulbs soon but i wont be using then since i have 8500k bulbs

mushroom_toy
02-04-2010, 05:47 PM
Just say no to higher k lol.

ShyBoyCA6
02-04-2010, 05:49 PM
i know but this one is a bright blue not that lazy blue

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250570026060&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_5108wt_939

its from 55 to 65 watts

mushroom_toy
02-04-2010, 06:03 PM
i know but this one is a bright blue not that lazy blue

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250570026060&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_5108wt_939

its from 55 to 65 watts


Yeah but anything over like a 4k doesnt help vision at all. All it really does is change the color of the light.

ShyBoyCA6
02-04-2010, 06:07 PM
Yeah but anything over like a 4k doesnt help vision at all. All it really does is change the color of the light.

yeah true well if i dont like them i can still use the ones i have on the car since they are white with a hint of blue and they are bright but not with shitty ebay projectors

CzEcHy
02-04-2010, 06:14 PM
Alright I'm getting the non DOT autopals, the harness, and some krypton ultra white 90/100w bulbs.. or the 55/65w if I can't find the higher ones..

Guess ill save the harness.

Sound good?

ShyBoyCA6
02-04-2010, 06:29 PM
only get the harness if you going for a higher output and the lower watts ones you can use the stock socket

CzEcHy
02-04-2010, 08:53 PM
So on the luminics, just any H4 bulbs or do I need to specify 9003/9004/etc..?

CzEcHy
02-09-2010, 09:29 PM
I recieved the harness today, now the part where it plugs into the OEM harness, it looks like a reversal of our OEM plug (that goes into a sealed beam)..


Is this correct?