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89lxi95zx7
10-09-2002, 05:00 AM
Has it been done? By who? What 6 cylinder?:huh:

Neuspeed87lx
10-09-2002, 05:59 PM
there have been people that claimed that they had v6 3g's ..but when we asked to see pics they just dissapear ....

Vanilla Sky
10-10-2002, 04:55 AM
would the 6 from the 6th gen accord mount in? would be cool if it did... would be harder than an h22 swap(or at least as hard), and there is a lot less aftermarket

you could always chop up your body and put it on a frame with a big block... very possible, but forget handling... would take well over 10 grand to do, just in parts

it's like it says in the FAQ "you can put any engine into anything, as long as you have the money"

Derick

88WhiteLX-i
10-19-2002, 07:39 PM
There was a guy on Ebay who put a V-8, either in a 3g or 4g I forget.

smufguy
10-27-2002, 11:22 AM
it was a V8 in a 4g, but also know it was not a FWD after that, it was a RWD. when was the last time u pulled up to an accord and see the front wheels come off the ground when the light turned green. hehehehe, thats sick huh?. A 6th gen V6 wont fit in ur 3g besides, i would think one would be brain dead to even think of one cause can u get hold of a engine like that? :P

The one from the legend should be fitting in somewhat, but i dont know. I am interested in the 2.7L v6 from the legend, if it would ever fit.

lostforawhile
03-09-2007, 03:40 PM
I know dead,but who was it that did this? there was a picture posted on here in the past with a first gen legend v6 I believe. it actually fit. can anyone find that picture again?

snoopyloopy
03-09-2007, 04:36 PM
these?
http://www.honda-klub.dk/data/cache/5/9/640x480.98af8de5.32795.jpg
http://www.honda-klub.dk/data/cache/1/1/640x480.d0b5eca0.32711.jpg

Tomisimo
03-09-2007, 07:20 PM
Yeah... it was one danish guye who did thet one...

AccordEpicenter
03-09-2007, 09:08 PM
there are alot easier ways to make power, guys. Its not like that motor has 600hp either

A20A1
03-09-2007, 10:39 PM
mmmm Danish.

:)

MessyHonda
03-09-2007, 11:47 PM
there are alot easier ways to make power, guys. Its not like that motor has 600hp either


yeah it only came with 161hp...and they dont have alot of aftermarket.

bullard123
03-10-2007, 07:09 AM
Might as well get the B20 if it only puts out 161 horsepower

lostforawhile
03-10-2007, 07:14 AM
it doesn't have but 161 horsepower but it has a lot of torque. thats what is so hard to get in a honda. I'm not sure about the weight,but it being an all aluminum engine vs. the steel block on our engines,the weight penalty isn't that much.

MessyHonda
03-10-2007, 07:56 AM
it doesn't have but 161 horsepower but it has a lot of torque. thats what is so hard to get in a honda. I'm not sure about the weight,but it being an all aluminum engine vs. the steel block on our engines,the weight penalty isn't that much.


you can make that much hp on a a20 but you would have to rebuild it with high performance parts....i think 140 hp is the max for a stock engine.

HondaBoy
03-10-2007, 01:32 PM
so i dont remember if that was a 2.5 or 2.7, but it was one of those in that picture above. did they ever get that thing going or was it a lost cause? that would have been cool, but i havent heard anything about it in months.

AccordEpicenter
03-10-2007, 07:51 PM
its not a bad engine but by the time you swap it in, then mess around with performance parts you would have been far ahead in the speed and wallet department with a turbo A20

snoopyloopy
03-10-2007, 09:34 PM
so i dont remember if that was a 2.5 or 2.7, but it was one of those in that picture above. did they ever get that thing going or was it a lost cause? that would have been cool, but i havent heard anything about it in months.
i think that one's a c27a = 2.7. but there was a c25a as well. from what i hear, he got it to the point of completion and i think i heard it started, but it had to be smogged or something like that and wouldn't pass with that engine and the guy doesn't want to spend the trouble to swap it back to stock then back yet again. ask thegreatdane, he probably is the best source of info for this.

forrest89sei
03-10-2007, 09:38 PM
i think that one's a c27a = 2.7. but there was a c25a as well. from what i hear, he got it to the point of completion and i think i heard it started, but it had to be smogged or something like that and wouldn't pass with that engine and the guy doesn't want to spend the trouble to swap it back to stock then back yet again. ask thegreatdane, he probably is the best source of info for this.



Yeah theres:

C25A

The SOHC C25A is a 2.5 L version, producing 165 hp (123 kW).

Applications; North America Only:

* 1986-1987 Acura Legend Sedan, 151 hp (113 kW)
* 1983-1985 Rover 825 Sedan, 151 hp (113 kW) UK and Europe (sold in US as STERLING)

&
C27A

The SOHC C27A is a 2.7 L version, producing 170 hp, (127 kW).

Applications; North America Only:

* SOHC non-VTEC
o 1987 Acura Legend Coupe , 161 hp (120 kW)
o 1988-1990 Acura Legend, 161 hp (120 kW)
o 1995-1997 Honda Accord, 170 hp (128 kW)
o 1985-1990 Rover 827/sterling/Vitesse, 177 hp (non catalyst)UK and Europe (sold in US as STERLING Brand)
o 1990-1996 Rover 827/Sterling/Coupe, 168 hp (catalyst) UK and Europe (sold in US as STERLING Brand until 1996)

3geeandEF
06-21-2007, 07:49 PM
if we can put a b series in our cars, why dont we just boost the shit out of a b20? i mean Full-Race makes some serious turbo kits for the b series engine. check them out.

www.full-race.com


Whos got a boosted b20 in their 3gee?

A18A
06-21-2007, 07:54 PM
cause we cant afford to

3geeandEF
06-21-2007, 08:26 PM
cause we cant afford to
so thats it? so swapping in a b20 from a CR-V would be fun enough. But im a speed fuh-reak. and got the dough to boost one. could the chassis handle a boosted b20 though? like a abonoxious boost setup?

MessyHonda
06-22-2007, 12:22 AM
so thats it? so swapping in a b20 from a CR-V would be fun enough. But im a speed fuh-reak. and got the dough to boost one. could the chassis handle a boosted b20 though? like a abonoxious boost setup?



you gotz lots to learn young one.

knarg
06-22-2007, 12:28 AM
i want an inline 5, that would be awesome
i think the vigor had it...

MessyHonda
06-22-2007, 12:52 AM
i want an inline 5, that would be awesome
i think the vigor had it...




why? they dont even make aftermarket parts for that car...even the A series has it better...lol....the b series swap is pimp but pain in the ass...and cost lots of money

Steve_Si
06-22-2007, 01:13 AM
No way. Have any of you ever been in a 2.7 legend coupe? It's only when it reaches over 60mph that you can tell the difference between the easy-to-swap B20A and the C27A, which in the car I drove was 180HP

I do wonder about the turbo C20A though, 190HP :)

AccordEpicenter
06-22-2007, 04:44 AM
if you wanna go fast turbo your a20.

3geeandEF
06-22-2007, 07:41 PM
you gotz lots to learn young one.


yes i do, thats why i bought the car cus its like no other Honda, im sick of being able to just swap in any b series or d series into the other Honda's

teach me grasshoppa teach me.

MessyHonda
06-22-2007, 11:35 PM
yes i do, thats why i bought the car cus its like no other Honda, im sick of being able to just swap in any b series or d series into the other Honda's
teach me grasshoppa teach me.



you must learn the wax on, wax off and then you can start talking about performance parts. always start off with the basics. and hope you have a nice project car...or even a beater.

2oodoor
06-23-2007, 01:46 AM
yes i do, thats why i bought the car cus its like no other Honda, im sick of being able to just swap in any b series or d series into the other Honda's
teach me grasshoppa teach me.

so you want a different swap, H22
for all the trouble of the v6, it is not worth it, if I went that route I would use a USDM v6... IF i said
you can make the A20 quicker than a lot of wanna- be fast civics, but not a real fast civic. trust me there are a lot of WFC

wax on wax off.. good one MH:kekeke:

lostforawhile
06-23-2007, 06:50 AM
the usdm v6 has a lot of potential if you were to mod it correctly. people are always bragging about fast civics,if a v6 were modded right,there is no way someone is going to beat one of our cars with a bigger motor in it. you have two extra cylnders. the main thing you have that none of the civics would have is torque. torque is what gets you off the line and moving. torque=twisting force at the crankshaft,the more force to twist the crank,the eaisier it is to accelerate the vechicle. lok at the engine charts one day,look at even the factory torque numbers of the v6. i would like to see one set up with a set of webber sidedrafts one day. then you are talking about something like the old Z car terrritory. if those cars were modded right they became beasts,the legend motor is probably capable of the same numbers.

snoopyloopy
06-23-2007, 07:28 AM
but if you're doing the c27a swap just for the torque, do an h22 swap or k24a2 swap instead. both of those both make almost as much torque as the c27a. 5g accord c27a has 170 hp & 170 ft-lb. h22 has 163 ft-lb, k24a2 has 166 ft-lb. and you can easily make more than that with a few upgrades on either of the 4-cyl engines than you can on the c27a.

lostforawhile
06-23-2007, 07:38 PM
the reason i suggested the early legend v6,is also that the entire subframe assembly looks like it could be swapped. i've been looking at both of these cars for years,if i had the money and the time,i really would like to see if the entire thing could be swapped in.

3geeandEF
06-23-2007, 08:03 PM
i know the basics. I'm not gonna swap this car anymore im just gonna rebuild the a20 and keep it all OEM with a little bump in the trunk, new paint and possibly a little lip.

MessyHonda
06-23-2007, 09:47 PM
i know the basics. I'm not gonna swap this car anymore im just gonna rebuild the a20 and keep it all OEM with a little bump in the trunk, new paint and possibly a little lip.



a good built a20 can make 130-150 hp if you know how to build it....and turbo....one member is making 230 whp

snoopyloopy
06-23-2007, 10:06 PM
of course it could be done. anything could be done with...oh wait, you said it.

if i had the money and the time...

3geeandEF
06-23-2007, 11:47 PM
230 whp on a carburated single cam 4cyl is damn close to amazing.

lostforawhile
06-24-2007, 05:21 AM
a good built a20 can make 130-150 hp if you know how to build it....and turbo....one member is making 230 whphow much was Johnny O making on the drag hatch? wasn't it something like 400 horsepower? thats not unreasonable on a drag motor designed to be torn apart every few races. especially on an iron block.

MessyHonda
06-24-2007, 07:04 AM
how much was Johnny O making on the drag hatch? wasn't it something like 400 horsepower? thats not unreasonable on a drag motor designed to be torn apart every few races. especially on an iron block.



well he was running 9-10 secs. and he was blowing up trannies. im talking about 89turboed...his dyno number was 230whp....i cant wait till guayanabo to dyno his turboed hatch.

lostforawhile
06-24-2007, 08:03 AM
well he was running 9-10 secs. and he was blowing up trannies. im talking about 89turboed...his dyno number was 230whp....i cant wait till guayanabo to dyno his turboed hatch.
does anyone know what his crank horsepower was? i thought someone said it was around 400.

AccordEpicenter
06-24-2007, 08:22 AM
prolly at least. His turbo a20 was pretty reliable as is jason budds. A series transmissions get weak in the 10 second range and start breaking. As long as i can run low 11s ill be pretty happy on my new setup