more pictures of the center console

[lostforawhile]

I got the bracket built for the aircraft emergency light, and I test fitted everything, I've been trying to work on the car, but even after 20 minutes out there, I'm sweating to death. It's just to hot to do anything.
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[MessyHonda]

il like to see it with carpet.

[lostforawhile]

il like to see it with carpet.

It will have carpet when I'm done, the factory carpet simply won't fit anymore, so i have to make pattern pieces then sew it all together there is a type of carpet they use in hot rods, you can put it in a bent area and tap the carpet down with a mallet, and it will take the countour of the bend. I would like to finish the wiring and put the new dash and everything in, but it's so hot, in 15 minutes you have sweat in your eyes and are overheated. i have ventilator fans in the loft, but at 110 heat index and the humidity at nearly 98 percent,it's like working in a swamp. just impossible. I'm making all the parts and pieces, but it's going to have to cool off before I can install anything. I have a big hunter ceiling fan, I might install it out there if there's clearance.

[Shilo]

I like the aviation theme. This thing is going to look awesome once you get everything done :thumbup:. What does that sticker to the right of the steering column say?

[lostforawhile]

I like the aviation theme. This thing is going to look awesome once you get everything done :thumbup:.

I'm trying to do what I can, the heat is so bad it's just unbearable, i was going to put a meter box on the building so I could hook up the electrical panel, but I don't have the money right now, this would allow me to put a 220 ac unit in and run it while i'm working , most people here don't have the power ro run one, so you can get them for nearly nothing

[lostforawhile]

the sticker says
warning!! fuel remaining in tanks when indicator reads zero, cannot be used safely in flight in other words don't run out of gas, when it says E you might run out of gas!!

[lostforawhile]

the sticker says in other words don't run out of gas, when it says E you might run out of gas!!

everything on this car is built from aircraft parts, or aircraft aluminum. or airplane themed in some way, Vanilla sky has a heater core for me, so I can yank this core out, remove the dash, and get all that mess finished. new dash is ready to go in the car already.

[labeledsk8r]

^^ did you just answer your own question, i mean really quoteing yourself RIGHT after the post.. nothing like post whoreing

[lostforawhile]

^^ did you just answer your own question, i mean really quoteing yourself RIGHT after the post.. nothing like post whoreing

he edited his post to say something else after I had quoted him, I was answering his question, the question didn't come up until after I had already quoted him. and don't you have something to do then trash every one of my posts?

[charliekuney]

I like the work, but the whole thing is just too much for me. Since I haven't been keeping track of the other thread about this, do all of the buttons you've installed do something (or will end up doing something)?

[lostforawhile]

I like the work, but the whole thing is just too much for me. Since I haven't been keeping track of the other thread about this, do all of the buttons you've installed do something (or will end up doing something)?

yes every single thing works, everything is completly functional, I can even control the radio from the center console, don't even have to look

[labeledsk8r]

he edited his post to say something else after I had quoted him, I was answering his question, the question didn't come up until after I had already quoted him. and don't you have something to do then trash every one of my posts?

when did i trash on your post, i made no comment about anything actully said nore did i trash your car at all. im pointing out the fact that you continuously make thread after thread going over the same part, every one of your projects have multiple threads, its just not needed. heres an example that took less then 2 mins to find

whats was rong with useing this thread that you allready made about the light
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73362

or how about this one labeled almost the same exact thing as this thread
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72471

or this one labeled center console project
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70718

i mean really, tons of people are interested in your monstrosity of a car you really dont need 70 threads going about the intior of your car make a frigen build thread for crist sake so people that like your car can follow EVERYTHING in one place instead of multi threads about small peices

[A18A]

that's a good point

[Cheeseburger]

Looking good LOST!!!!

[frantik]

holy shit it's cheeseburger

also lost u need to add a flux capacitor

[Cheeseburger]

put the flux capacitor and let me hop on and go back in time to change a few things that i have done! lol

[lostforawhile]

Well Cheese if I had one I would be attaching it to the biggest U haul I could find, and bringing back SEI parts and DC headers, but I have no way to generate the 1.21 Gigawatz and they are so slow they would never drive 88. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgyvMp5YWcI

[Juggalo88Accord]

Well Cheese if I had one I would be attaching it to the biggest U haul I could find, and bringing back SEI parts and DC headers

Haha Brilliant! Love your interior What does tha Pull Emergency light thing on tha side of tha center console do? Hazards?

[charliekuney]

^ I'm guessing it turns on the light it's attached to.

[lostforawhile]

Haha Brilliant! Love your interior What does tha Pull Emergency light thing on tha side of tha center console do? Hazards?

Itzdave sent it to me, it's from an aircraft, it's an emergency flashlight, you pull the handle down and it comes off of the bracket, it would have originally charged from the airplane, but it uses two rechargeable C batteries, I just put two standard C batteries in it. also has a g force sensor in it, in a wreck it will come on on it's own. a;ways good to have a flashlight handy at night, and it's military hardware. I had to make the bracket it's attached to http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73362

[lostforawhile]

the big flat aluminum bracket is left over from my old Nokia analog cell phone, best phone I ever owned. it was the handset with the radio box at the back. I'm going to modify that plate with a lighter one for an Ipod cradle, you can get the harness with the plug that charges the battery, and has a left and right audio output. I have a wired FM modulator for the Ipod to run it through the radio, the mirror switch in the center console goes to a relay box and an SWI-x unit, it turns the eight possible outputs of the mirror switch into remote control signals for the radio

[Dr_Snooz]

Looking good as always Lost!

[lostforawhile]

Another small piece, this is the panel that fits at the back of the console, since I don't have a shear here, I haven't sheared the angles yet. this is what the three relays for the start button attach to. they go on the inside of the panel. the round area has to milled out yet, it's for an electronic flasher, the dual red lights on the panel, are for one of the oil pressure warnings. I have the regular one, but since I have the remote oil filter and cooler, I have a secondary sensor on the return side of the filter. This tells me if i lose pressure on the return side of the filter EG clogged filter.
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[lostforawhile]

Here's the panel installed with the relays for the start button, very tight fit on everything, I'm trying to work on a little at a time and get parts ready to install http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4021557.jpg
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[lostforawhile]

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[ecogabriel]

I believe you said something about documenting the wiring you add or modify in your car. Do you have a way of testing the wiring as you are adding it to the car?

I believe I saw that emergency light in some aircraft? Maybe a commercial one? Somehow it is a familiar image and I am not into planes in any way.

Good you keep working... oh, and I'm liking the way all is coming together.

[lostforawhile]

I believe you said something about documenting the wiring you add or modify in your car. Do you have a way of testing the wiring as you are adding it to the car?

I believe I saw that emergency light in some aircraft? Maybe a commercial one? Somehow it is a familiar image and I am not into planes in any way.

Good you keep working... oh, and I'm liking the way all is coming together.

the emergency light is from a military airplane, it's mounted above the door in the aircraft, as far as the wiring i'm testing it a section at a time, I have the odyssey battery in, but I have to make a different ground wire, and hook up the starter and fuse panels. it's just too hot to do much, I was just out there working on the s2000 start button, and I'm sweating to death,it's been 98 percent humidity for days. keeps drizzling, and we get storm clouds and no rain, but get the thunder and lightning.It did rain earlier though. as far as documenting, it looks like a wiring disaster, but everything is wired, and the numbers are recorded in notebooks. I can look up any number and know what it's for.

[LX-incredible]

Somehow it is a familiar image and I am not into planes in any way.


http://www.collider.com/wp-content/image-base/Clubhouse/B/Back_to_the_Future_Delorean/Back%20to%20the%20Future%20Delorean%20Time%20Machi ne%20(3).jpg

[lostforawhile]

http://www.collider.com/wp-content/image-base/Clubhouse/B/Back_to_the_Future_Delorean/Back%20to%20the%20Future%20Delorean%20Time%20Machi ne%20(3).jpg

you had to have photoshopped that no way!!!!:jaw:

[lostforawhile]

well I traced the picture back to collider.com and it's from what is supposed to be the most accurate replica of the time machine ever made, that means if it's in there,it's in the movie. what are the odds Itzdave randomly finds me a part, and it's in the Dolorean time machine in the original movie, when everyone is always making jokes about my car looking like the time machine, I knew I should have bought a lottery ticket. :eek:

[stat1K]

good job "tracing" it... all you had to do is click the properties to know that it's from that website, lol... pretty soon lost you will have you're own time machine!

[lostforawhile]

speaking of tracing, the start circuit wouldn't work, i traced that to a bad relay, then had to rebundle all that wiring. the blue light recessed in that panel on the front blinks when the ignition is on, but the car isn't started. then goes off once it's started. i'll add another relay that clicks on and off with the blinker and creates a ground, then the lights for the ignition switches will all flash in sync until the engine is started, you pull power for each indicator bulb from each switch, then the grounds come from the relay in the center console, once the engine starts all indicator lamps go out. the other advantage is if the oil pressure light comes on while the engine is running, all the indicators flash, hard to miss.

[lostforawhile]

Ok another piece done, I haven't been able to work on either car, one is outside, and it rains every day, and the other is in the garage and it's like a sauna. This is the piece for the ignition switches, I FINALLY found my military type locking toggle switches. I found them on eBay, so I asked the seller if I could bid and pay him in a couple of weeks, and he said no problem. you don't just flip these, they have a detent, you have to lift the lever then flip. They are aircraft type switches, I had a hard time finding them. I didn't want to use those ones with the flip cover, I have vintage ones, but they are so overused in ricer mobiles, they just look tacky. These type of toggles look much classier. These are the exact type of toggles used in Shelby Cobras.
the aluminum piece on top of the center console slides into the area for the ashtray. I'll make sides for the open areas on the dash where it goes, the switches are slightly wider then the aluminum piece, so I'll just cut some clearance, no one will ever see it. the two switches go in this piece and the two indicator lamps, as I mentioned before, the two indicator lamps and the indicator lamp on the center console, all flash in sync until the car starts. the ones for the switches don't come on until you turn on the switch itself. Once the car starts, all three indicators go out. I'm going to leave the accessory position at the switch, and you can't turn on the ignition unless the key is in, The reason I did this, and I think Honda did the same on the s2000, was so you couldn't start the car until you unlocked the steering column. This prevents a disaster in case the car jumps, and you have no steering control. Of course this aluminum piece isn't finished yet, I'm test fitting it.
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[lostforawhile]

you can see how the piece for the switches fits where the old ashtray would have been, I'll be glad when it cools off so I can change this dash, once the dash is swapped things can go back in where they belong.
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[lostforawhile]

the switches finally showed up, took six weeks for them to make it here from israel, these are supposed to have been off of a fighter jet at some point, you have to pull them out to flip them up, but they flip down and lock normally. the aluminum piece is being painted black right now. the small holes are for indicators, they are only on until the car is started. i used a center drill and i'll epoxy an led to the back of each one.
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[Civic Accord Honda]

ftw, and why not just remove the steering wheel lock? not to hard to do, the 3g i was gonna buy had it removed for racing , then u wont need a key at all

[lostforawhile]

ftw, and why not just remove the steering wheel lock? not to hard to do, the 3g i was gonna buy had it removed for racing , then u wont need a key at all

the same reason honda left it in the s2000 even though it has pushbutton start. I haz lots of security and backup for the security so it won't just start up or anything

[lostforawhile]

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[OldSkoolA20accord]

My opinion. Car is a mess. But then again im not for that kinda stuff you are so hell yea. Im not baggin on you or anything i just wouldnt know what the fuck to do. I used to be into weird stuff like that, Then making my EF hatch fast and a little street racer, now im into restoring a 4 door 1990 special edition integra.

Keep it up tho dude. All your missing is a set of wings. lol

[lostforawhile]

My opinion. Car is a mess. But then again im not for that kinda stuff you are so hell yea. Im not baggin on you or anything i just wouldnt know what the fuck to do. I used to be into weird stuff like that, Then making my EF hatch fast and a little street racer, now im into restoring a 4 door 1990 special edition integra.

Keep it up tho dude. All your missing is a set of wings. lolwell of course it's a mess, as soon as it cools off i'll get all this wiring finished up, the new dash all put in and all the interior stuff i've been working on. it's just too hot to do anything, it started to cool off, then the temperature shot back up again. the seats, interior panels, dash, all the dash trim etc, are sitting in a back room at my house, i needed the space to work. finishing up the wiring in this center console right now, the new dash itself is wired, it just plugs into the harnesses I've already put in the car. I keep having to pull stuff out to work on other stuff, kind of on hold on everything until the dash goes in.

[lostforawhile]

one of the reasons i want the ignition key, is it's a physical deterrent to have the wheel locked, I also need the acc position, I won't go into too many details, as it's a security measure I don't discuss, but the car is equipped with an RFID system, just like late models, you have to turn on the acc then if the transponder is there, the power to the ignition circuits will come on, as well as the fuel pump power. I have physical switches, but they don't do any good with no power. There's more to it then that, but those are all i'll discuss. Thats one of the systems no one will ever see any pictures of. you never know who's looking. car is equipped with that, and other unmentioned security, plus tracking, passive anti car jack etc.

[lostforawhile]

I added the other two relays, one is to cause the two ignition switch indicators to flash until the car is started, and the other is tied into the oil pressure switch, i didn't want to overload the switch with too many circuits, all the switch sees is the bulb for the indicator and one relay now. anything else triggered from that switch is invisible to the switch itself. I found another bad relay, thats the reason one isn't bolted down, it was one for testing. i couldn't get the indicators to flash right, i figured out it was voltage induced from the relay on field collapse, i just need to add a diode. i went through the trouble with the indicators because i didn't want the distraction of them always being lit with the car running. http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd158/lostforawhile/S4021664.jpg

[lostforawhile]

finished wiring the entire front half of the console, and added the plugs, now i need to finish the other parts of it.
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yea,whatever. wake me when you build something out of chicken
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[Civic Accord Honda]

something reminds me of something you posted on my 3gees thread when i installed a aftermarket coil... oh yeah


CUT THE DAMN ZIP TIES!!!!!!!!!!



hahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:



looks good though but srsy do that ^

[ShyBoyCA6]

ok im lost?? is this for looks or for something esle? :stick:

other than that looks very interesting and cant wait to see a vid of how everything works.

[lostforawhile]

ok im lost?? is this for looks or for something esle? :stick:

other than that looks very interesting and cant wait to see a vid of how everything works.

it's for function goes with the start pushbutton switch, it's the interlock relays for the start button and the start relay , if the car is off, you put in the key and physically unlock the steering wheel, once the RFID system recognizes the key fob, it powers up the center console, you can then turn on ignition 1 and 2, and start the car with the pushbutton, the system is interlocked, if the oil pressure lamp is on as if the engine isn't running, or stalled, you can push the button to crank the car, as long as you hold the button, it will continue to crank, even if the oil pressure light goes out, once you release the button and the oil pressure stays up, engine running, the button is locked out. also the indicator flashes and the ignition switch indicators flash, reminding you that the car is on but not cranked, once it cranks they all switch off. I do need the ignition switch lamp timer and a pig tail for it though it's in the bottom of the plastic shround around the ignition switch, next to the illumination controller and key dinger. i have an output signal to trigger it but i need the timer module. will wire that with the key switch indicator and the illumination for the ignition switches, everything will go out once the car starts. I needed a place to put everything so it neatly fits inti the back of the center console.

[lostforawhile]

this is the module i need, and the pig tail, shows the wire colors, i'm sure someone has one in an lxi somewhere in their spare parts, or if someone can grab one next time they go to the yard. i think i have every other module on the car except this one
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[lostforawhile]

can someone who has the key light verify if there's an extra module under the area where the light dimmer and door dinger are? one book says it's there and one says it's in the multi purpose control under the radio if it's in the module under the radio, i just need to add an extra pin

[lostforawhile]

ok I think I've got it figured out, i looked at the circuit diagram for that part, where the key lamp is, one wire goes to illumination + the other black with white wire grounds when the lamp is on, if you have a dx and look at the multifunction connector directly under the radio, there will be an empty pin hole at the end, this is supposed to be where the black and white wire goes, the connector is probably also blue, probably a designator of which harness is in the car, I have that connector from an LXI and the connector is yellow, it also has the black and white wire. if you get that connector from a junk car, remove that pin, and install it in the dx connector, this will give you the key lamp. it also could be used with a relay to time your interior lamp or courtesy lamps. you simply use a relay to ground a door switch. if you want the key lamp, you can get the entire top and bottom key surround, or get the lamp and cut the dx housings to fit it.

[88LXi68]

I swear everytime I see pics of the inside of your car I think about the inside of the deloren from back to the future. I want to say you have more buttons, switches and gauges than they had.

credit where credit is due though...good job on coming up with some unique ideas.

[2oodoor]

looks ok but please replace the rusted screw on the face plate,


As someone who does deal with a lot of upfitted equipment on vehicles I see no need in using so many tie wraps.. just not my technique really but I do use them just not so many.
Really Im not trying to be critical just helpful.
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[lostforawhile]

looks ok but please replace the rusted screw on the face plate,


As someone who does deal with a lot of upfitted equipment on vehicles I see no need in using so many tie wraps.. just not my technique really but I do use them just not so many.
Really Im not trying to be critical just helpful.
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it's a habit i picked up from the way they wire airplanes at work. it's been a lot eaisier to change stuff though then having to unwrap everything. Someone told me the reason they do it on airplanes, is so if a wire shorts , the heat isn't contained in the tape and doesn't melt the entire group of wires. i know about the screws normally I use all stainless, but i couldn't find stainless in the right thread and length, i'll have to grind some down. They've been bugging me too.

[lostforawhile]

I think what might be the difference in the wiring diagrams, is the alternating corner markers on the US made cars. the honda diagram shows circuits that are inside of the multi function control, as seperate modules, and in the US cars they are all inside of one module. the pop up lamps and the corner markers are different on the US cars. anyone know if the japanese cars have alternating turn signals or they flash with the fronts? some countries alternating lights are illegal

[2oodoor]

that makes sense about not melting paralel wiring, come to think of it I have seen that inside of DC powered mulitfunction devices

[lostforawhile]

well after sitting on my wooden bench in the car for over six hours, finally taking a break
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[lostforawhile]

couple of pieces
I found one of the honda power outlets at the yard with the cover, I think it looks better then the lighter plug,you can see part of the plate where i strengthened the armrest
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this is a door courtesy light, fits up under the glovebox, it sits in there straight, i just have to turn it, it uses the original bracket to hold it
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[Hazwan]

That power outlet looks a lot better. I've been wanting to install one on my center armrest too but never found any with that cover. And nice work with that light :thumbup: It looks like its meant to be there haha.

[QuickRoadrunner]

Looks great, love the airplane theme. Its going to look amazing when its done. Of course when people get in your car they are going to want to play with everything.

[lostforawhile]

Looks great, love the airplane theme. Its going to look amazing when its done. Of course when people get in your car they are going to want to play with everything.

that's why the start is interlocked so no starter grinding. no power to the ignition switches unless I'm sitting in the seat and the module reads the transponder. The red button on the illumination right above the ignition switches, you can't see it in the pictures, prominent red button, I'm going to label it never push! probably release a blast of compressed air or something, or make some sort of racket or extremely loud noise. you KNOW someone is going to push it

[lostforawhile]

went out there and did some more wiring the center console is almost ready to go back in for now, everything at the front half of the car is now wired, the new dash uses plugs, so no individual wires.

[lostforawhile]

another late night.........
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just came in from doing 14 hours of work straight on the car.
pardon the wires under the dash, all that will get bundled tomorrow
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trying to be very careful routing wires near the e brake cables
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[lostforawhile]

just got around 20 oem relays from what i think was a grand caravan, same pin pattern and numbers as a bosch 5 pin, they should plug into standard 5 pin sockets, they look much better quality then the cheap Chinese ones you see for sale all the time, 2 bucks, plus another lighter plug with the plastic cap and several long lengths of wire with multi pin plugs, same 2 bucks for everything.