88lxi-shortram's 88 lXI

[88lxi-shortram]

this will be my "build thread" i guess until i get the cash to be a foundation member. but anyways heres an update for all of you who have been following my random but useful posts.

i now have the motor out of car.
all a/c components have been removed.
heat is almost done.
ive ordered my brand new motor mounts... believe it or not for 50$ all around :)
and i will be ordering my engine soon after new years :)

this is before the transplan began:
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5849/1000446m.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/i/1000446m.jpg/)
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/927/1000266h.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/1000266h.jpg/)
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/3895/1000265z.th.jpg (http://img688.imageshack.us/i/1000265z.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)
and this is after
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1478/1000521p.th.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/i/1000521p.jpg/)

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/7843/1000524m.th.jpg (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/1000524m.jpg/)

[88lxi-shortram]

ive also pressure washed the bay with a high heat washer and did the same with most of the front undercar. if my teacher would let me id love to put it on the lift and wash the bottom as well.

[charliekuney]

You should edit that first post and take all of the .th's out of the image codes.

[88lxi-shortram]

if i do that they get all stupid big lol.

[Dr_Snooz]

Looking good man. Did you paint the engine bay?

[charliekuney]

if i do that they get all stupid big lol.

They're not on my screen, haha. ;)

[forrest89sei]

Looking Good :D :wave:

[88lxi-shortram]

No I didn't get the chance to paint it. My teacher said it's too much to do to. But don't worry it will be done. Once I get the money for my 5 speed swap I'll do it then:) plus I could decide on the color. But I want to paint the car first.

[DJAJ]

wrong thread sorry :D

[charliekuney]

I just realized your left tail light is from an '86-87 sedan.

[88lxi-shortram]

lol yea... it came like that. i never knew what it was but now i know. lol when i got it home i took a good look at it and was thinking wtf? is one missing trim or something? o well it works :)

[Dr_Snooz]

No I didn't get the chance to paint it. My teacher said it's too much to do to. But don't worry it will be done. Once I get the money for my 5 speed swap I'll do it then:) plus I could decide on the color. But I want to paint the car first.

I mean that it looks great in the pic. It is a lot of work to do it right. Someday when I do a full restoration on mine, I'll paint the bay. Until then, meh. I have assorted color parts in there right now anyway since the wreck, so whatever.

[88lxi-shortram]

lol i wanted to paint it and to me it wasnt that much to do. beside brake boosted, steering, and fusebox my bay is empty so it would have been relativly easy. o well. i just cant wait to drive it again. i miss it and now im strnded with no car. :( i no longer have my acura :crying:

[88lxi-shortram]

i was surpriised by the ups truck today and got a special package :D thats right i got my brand new shiny motor mounts :) im posting pics soon.

[88lxi-shortram]

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7431/1000559u.jpg (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/1000559u.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

idk if its huge on your screen like it is on mine but heres a thumbnail

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7431/1000559u.th.jpg (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/1000559u.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[Hondamonster]

yup pic is pretty massive haha. car looks pretty good

[88lxi-shortram]

thx. it looks decent cosmeticly except fot the dent in the rear quarter panel and the wrinkled rear left door. oh and of course my crazy bumper sag. everything else is fine cosmeticly. the interior need replacing now but thatll be way later down the road.

[charliekuney]

Why are the front wheels on backwards?

[88lxi-shortram]

Lol that's actually a long story from when I got the car. I wasn't supposed to have a key to it but I got a copy anyway. I went for a joyride and ended up shredding the drivers side tire. Of course with my luck the car was parked backwards so you could see it coming down the road. An to add to it my mom literally called me when I parked and said she was on her way home. So me and my girlfriend jacked up the car and swapped the two tires so she wouldn't be able to see it. Lol I still got caught because she saw me carrying the shredded tire to get a new one but I never got around to swapping them back

[charliekuney]

You know that's kinda bad on your tires, right? They were made to be on their respective side. Not that that really matters, but they're probably balanced, which is the bad part.

[88lxi-shortram]

Yea but the most motion it gets for now is being pushed maybe 10 yards to the lift or inside the shop. But I'm going to switch them back now that I actually noticed it. Plus I'll be getting rid of the oe rims eventually and getting new rims. But I'm doing that at the same time I lower it

[charliekuney]

I'd buy them off you if the center caps weren't yellow already. :(

[88lxi-shortram]

how much would you give me? cuz ill hit the junkyard and find some that are clean :). amazingly we have so many mint accords in our junkyards.

[charliekuney]

Are the wheels curbed or damaged at all? If not, I'd do $50 plus shipping if it's not horrible.

[88lxi-shortram]

theyre kinda curbed but not horrible.the worse case is the front drivers side rim has scratches on the inside of the rim because my control arm drug on it for like 5 mins..

[88lxi-shortram]

Just an update for everybody .... I ordered my motor today for 350 and it be here on Friday :) lol it's gonna be the longest day and a half ever

[88lxi-shortram]

i was working on my steering today and then got a call to the front of the shop to pick up... this

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6325/1000566n.th.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/1000566n.jpg/)

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7119/1000565.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/i/1000565.jpg/)

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2030/1000564m.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/i/1000564m.jpg/)

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2140/1000562v.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/1000562v.jpg/)

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4585/1000567i.th.jpg (http://img543.imageshack.us/i/1000567i.jpg/)

[88lxi-shortram]

i do have a question though about my steering...
the power steering line from the rack is in my way now that i removed the power steering. i want to take it off but idk if its bad to just leave that hole in the rack. i imagine dirt and dust would get in there if its open and thats the last thing i need. so is there a trick that idk about to do to it?

[1813mdw]

their should be two lines coming out of the rack. if you plan on not hookin back up the ps then you make sure you have fluid in the rack and find a way to hook them together. you leave fluid in the rack so it doesn't damage from operating dry. a better solution can be found in the thread "Manual or Power Steering in the 2gees?" it uses a manual rack from a 2gee, which has no lines and will steer easier(designed that way). you would have to get older civic inner tie rods and a new rack though.

[1813mdw]

Just an update for everybody .... I ordered my motor today for 350 and it be here on Friday :) lol it's gonna be the longest day and a half ever

is it rebuilt, or used?

[88lxi-shortram]

its used but i plan on doing an all out build on the old motor

[1813mdw]

its used but i plan on doing an all out build on the old motor

great minds think alike. :thumbup: i'm plannin the same thing. did you check out that thread?

[88lxi-shortram]

i searched but nothing came up... but im thnking about looking into some brass line like that and rigging it to basically make a circuit of fluid

[88lxi-shortram]

what if i just cut the in and out lines and then clamp on a hose from both ends. i could dump some fluid through the hose before i clamp the last side and that would allow fluid to remain in the rack... right?

[Vanilla Sky]

http://www.flyinmiata.com/tech/depower.php

[88lxi-shortram]

for now ill just loop it together until i can hit pull a part and get a spare rack to do it on... i just need a temporary fix until i get the time and money to do it right... i have exactly 22 days to install the motor and make sure it runs correctly before my warranty is up and i still have alot of stuff that needs to be done... but which ports are for in and out on our racks? anyone got pics or advice?

[1813mdw]

for now ill just loop it together until i can hit pull a part and get a spare rack to do it on... i just need a temporary fix until i get the time and money to do it right... i have exactly 22 days to install the motor and make sure it runs correctly before my warranty is up and i still have alot of stuff that needs to be done... but which ports are for in and out on our racks? anyone got pics or advice?

page one of the tutorial that vanillasky provided has a pic of the lines being looped. great "how to" by the way. good luck and let me know how it turns out

[88lxi-shortram]

yea i saw it but the accords looks different... or at least mine does... and when i get on mitchells and pull up diagrams all i get is the rack that has 4 ports from the rack... sooooo.... ill try to post pics of the diagrams

[Dr_Snooz]

Try this manual. (http://honda.roadpwnage.com/manuals/pages/usdm-accord-1989-full.php)

[88lxi-shortram]

that manual is great man.... i only wish i had enough ink or a good enough printer to print out 955 pages XD i might go to ups or something and pay for it cuz that is a great lifetime investment

[Dr_Snooz]

We aim to please. :D

[charliekuney]

I have one of those! It's for Aerodecks and fixed headlight sedans, though.

[88lxi-shortram]

ok well ive practilly set up shop at PaP now. i have to get the oil seperator assembly or ill have to find a way to rig it to work.... but its a pain in the ass to get it off while the motor is still in the car so now im stripping this 3gee down to make life easier. plus who knows i might find something else i need in the process... its just to bad they dont have an se-i in my junkyard :( i want rear disks

[88lxi-shortram]

one question i do have is since im doing my p/s delete and just looping the in and out lines from the rack, would it effecct my speed sensor? im filling the rack with fluid so idk if that would affect it

[88lxi-shortram]

:sadwave:

[88lxi-shortram]

bump before i have to go to school tomoro?

[Hondamonster]

doesn't effect speed sensor to my knowledge. my ps has been gone for almost 2 years and i just straight up removed the pump and pulled the lines out. didn't even loop it. speed sensor still works fine. the only reason ps fluid goes to that is because i think it somehow makes your power assist variable. like when not moving, it assists more than when going down the interstate

[88lxi-shortram]

ok :D good to hear. plans for today are to finish my p/s delete, put the transmission back on, and try to figure out a way to rig that oil breather tube from the manifold to work... o and buy my springs :D im uber excited for the drop

[88lxi-shortram]

ok... so what does the thing i broke do? its called an oil breather from what ive seen and heard but if its just pushing air into the box couldnt i rig something to make it work? im on a tight budget so anything less than the 40 ill have to spend on parts + downtime is great

[88lxi-shortram]

bump?

[forrest89sei]

It's part of the PCV System I believe it separates the Oil And the Air? So the oil drains back into the pan and the air goes into the intake to be burned?

[lostforawhile]

do you need the part with the PCV valve sticking out of it? is that the part thats broke? I've got one in pretty decent shape if you need it

[88lxi-shortram]

It's part of the PCV System I believe it separates the Oil And the Air? So the oil drains back into the pan and the air goes into the intake to be burned?

that sounds alot similar to a catch can... would one of those be a solution? i was thinking that the other day and i can take the one off my prelude and use it if i had to.

[88lxi-shortram]

do you need the part with the PCV valve sticking out of it? is that the part thats broke? I've got one in pretty decent shape if you need it

yes please :D

[88lxi-shortram]

is there any other way to bypass this? the guy at autozone says you can but he couldnt explain how w/o seeing the car and he cant go on school grounds so.... you guys would be a great help. Also, the plate that covers the flexpalate is confusing me. idk how to put it bac on.. do i just slip it o while im installing the trans? or is there some way to install?

[88lxi-shortram]

still havent figured this out. this and reinstailling the harness is the only thing in my way... so far

[88lxi-shortram]

I got it rigged finally. I used a grommets from autozone and bought a pcv that would fit and just ran a 3/8 hose into the manifold. So next on my list is to reinstall the manifold and begin pricing everything back together. I'm still waiting for to get my computer back so I can order my lowering springs. And also today I picked up a new downpipe from a clean ass accord they just got at pull a part. So harness is next. Can't wait to try and crank it

[mushroom_toy]

Oh yeah if you need any AC components I have the whole ac system from one of my cars for sell.

[88lxi-shortram]

Lmao I haven't bumped it for a while but i have ac stuff on the board for sale too

[88lxi-shortram]

ok heres a quick update on the car... i have the trans intaslled w/ the cpver plate... except for one bolt on the transmission... its the bolt that holds a bracket with a hose coming off of it. its towards the front of the trans. if i was comparing to a clock id say its at about 4 oclock'ish. but another thing about my PCV system... i rigged it to work (hopefully) basically what i did was i bought a grommet for the oil seperator box, bought a pcv valve to stick out from it and ran a hose from that pcv valve to the manifold... i think itll work but if anyone has any objections please come foward

[Dr_Snooz]

I broke the PCV system while I was rebuilding my engine. I replaced it all with new and junkyard parts. Pretty much everything from the oil pan hose to the PCV valve is all replaced. I think others are running homemade catch cans, though.

Good luck with the rest of your build.

[88lxi-shortram]

but it think my setup would work right? theoretically i think its the same minus one pcv valve. right???

[Dr_Snooz]

You'll know when your air filter clogs full of oil.

[88lxi-shortram]

You'll know when your air filter clogs full of oil.

so i take it thats a no?

[Dr_Snooz]

I don't know for sure, but I suspect you'll see a lot of oil in your air filter.

[88lxi-shortram]

hmmm... im trying to figure out why you suspect that... i can add another pcv valve to be sure so ill do that. but other than that does the system include anything more than that? from my inspection it just goes box, grommet, pcv vlave, tube w/ turn in it, pcv valve, hose to manifold. correct me if im mistakin

[88lxi-shortram]

so any input???

[Dr_Snooz]

Okay, I might have read your original post too quickly. There should only be one PCV valve. There's the hose from the pan to the breather box. The grommet is on top and curves up to the valve. Then the hose from the valve back to the intake. That should do it. Where are you getting two valves from?

[88lxi-shortram]

it was an extra i had from the original but i thought you were telling me to add another one to the system... but heres my layout of what im going to be using. hose from the pan to the box, grommet and pcv valve coming from the box, hose coming from pcv valve stright to intake manifold.... im almost sure its a ghetto replica of the system. im almost sure it will work dont you???

[Dr_Snooz]

Sounds fine. Sorry for not paying better attention.

[88lxi-shortram]

Lol you scared me for a second...

[88lxi-shortram]

ok well the motors back in the car now :D but me and my friends noticed it sits at an angle. its like the trans side it sticking up a little so it leans to the rght. i think i remember someone saying its the miscreated mounts that are sold but im not sure. so any input guys?

[MessyHonda]

you got the b20 lean

[88lxi-shortram]

lol yea on an a20... but it wont effect it will it? as far as perofrming correctly goes?

[88lxi-shortram]

Ok I've made alot of progress in the past few days I've almost completed wiring and vacuum layout but I can't figure out where these two plugs go. There is a green and yellow plug that are just hanging out around the radiator and the transmission. They aren't the ones that plug into the coolant port . Also if anyone knows where I can get a diagram of the coolant hose layout or wants to post some pics that would also be helpful

[88lxi-shortram]

bump?

[lostforawhile]

ok well the motors back in the car now :D but me and my friends noticed it sits at an angle. its like the trans side it sticking up a little so it leans to the rght. i think i remember someone saying its the miscreated mounts that are sold but im not sure. so any input guys?

it's the mounts, for some reason everyone wants to sell the LXI mount, if it's too high, get the bracket off of an LXI and it will cause the engine to sit level, i assume you have the stamped steel bracket? you need the cast bracket

[88lxi-shortram]

mines an lxi so i already have the brakcets.... but what about those plugs do yo know anything about those?

[lostforawhile]

mines an lxi so i already have the brakcets.... but what about those plugs do yo know anything about those?get me some pictures of the plugs and i'll try to figure it out

[88lxi-shortram]

I'll try. Without a computer it's hard but I'll try

[1813mdw]

i'll take a look at mine and see if i can't help you out

[88lxi-shortram]

thx... i mainly need the coolant diagram and the two plugs and ill be ready to go. also i remember when i put my CAI on i looped two coolant ports together but i dont remember which two so if anyone has pics of that too ill appreciate it

[88lxi-shortram]

ok i need help on my starter stuff... i have the poitive terminal connected but idk what goes on the negative... where is it?

[ShyBoyCA6]

Pic?

[88lxi-shortram]

Nevermind I found it today :) now all that's left is coolant lines and ill be trying to crank

[ShyBoyCA6]

Cool and make a vid and post it when you can! wanna see how it came out.:beer:

[88lxi-shortram]

You know I will:) I just hope everything runs right. But it'll be about a week til I get it cranked. I'm still waiting for my distributor cap and my final exhaust piece before I crank it

[88lxi-shortram]

ok so i tryed to turn it over today and ran into a major problem. first off, when i hooked up a jump box to the battery the starter began to spin by itself but didnt catch on the fexplate it didnt sound like. then when my teacher said to swap the power supply to the other starter terminal and it didnt spin by itself but when i turned the key i got no response. i can hear a relay clicking i think its the one closet to the passeneger side outside.

[88lxi-shortram]

Looking at some schematics and it seems like there's supposed to be something on that other starter terminal. Maybe a ground or a possible a switch connector. My teacher also mentioned something about a ground supposed to be to the chassis or something. I don't remember exactly what he said but I remember there's supposed to be that ground from the valve cover to the frame. But before I replace the motor I didn't have that ground and it started just fine.

[A18A]

is the car auto or manual? i forget, if the starter is spinning but not turning the motor, either the starter motor has fail, or you forgot to bolt the torque converter to the drive plate. The starter should only have 2 terminals on it. one big fat one (which goes straight to the positive of the battery) and one small spade plug (goes to the black/white wire on your engine loom) the ground for the starter is through the transmission case where the cable goes from the negative of the battery to the frame of the car and from there to the gearbox

[88lxi-shortram]

its an auto

[A18A]

i see. maybe you forgot to bolt the torque converter onto the drive plate :O

[88lxi-shortram]

i dont think so. are you talking about those little bolts that hold the converter onto the flexplate?
lol the ones that only accept 9 ft lbs

[Dr_Snooz]

Oh bro. Why haven't you been using these (http://3geez.wiki-tv.com/Honda_service_manuals)? There is an '89 USDM Factory Service Manual (http://honda.roadpwnage.com/manuals/pages/usdm-accord-1989-full.php) that will show you all the hose routings. There is also an '89 Accord Electrical Troubleshooting Manual (http://3geez.wiki-tv.com/manuals/1989%20Accord%20Electrical%20Troubleshooting%20Man ual.zip) that will show you all the wiring, connections, etc. I haven't checked into your thread for awhile. Sorry.

You know, some of you other guys could be directing people to these resources. I shouldn't have to shoulder this burden alone.

[-$MOKIN-]

Oh bro. Why haven't you been using these (http://3geez.wiki-tv.com/Honda_service_manuals)? There is an '89 USDM Factory Service Manual (http://honda.roadpwnage.com/manuals/pages/usdm-accord-1989-full.php) that will show you all the hose routings. There is also an '89 Accord Electrical Troubleshooting Manual (http://3geez.wiki-tv.com/manuals/1989%20Accord%20Electrical%20Troubleshooting%20Man ual.zip) that will show you all the wiring, connections, etc. I haven't checked into your thread for awhile. Sorry.

You know, some of you other guys could be directing people to these resources. I shouldn't have to shoulder this burden alone.

But snooz your the greatest

[-$MOKIN-]

oops

[88lxi-shortram]

I've only been using the 1989 manual not the elec. One. I'll look into it once I get my new computer and I can open them up

[88lxi-shortram]

Ok just an update. That black and white wire that I spent forever searching for well I found it. The problem was that I thought I had already hooked it up but I saw it hanging there so I plugged it in and everything worked great. I turned it over and will be checking compression tomorrow. But I need to know what goes on those 2 outlets on the bottom of the radiator. I know one goes to the transmission but I'm not sure which port it goes on. Then theres another one and I don't see what hooks to it. After I do the coolant hoses and add fluids it should run :)....

O and I know it's a little offtopic but I'm so happy because I had an interview today at Infiniti Subaru and they seemed interested and want me to come walk around the shop. So I may be the next Infiniti tech soon:D

[-$MOKIN-]

It might be the ac compressor hook up ?

[88lxi-shortram]

i didnt think the ac needed coolant.... i thought it just ran through the condensor. from what im looking at in a diagram there seems to be two lines from the trans that go there... they both have a fitting similar to the one on the fuel line to fuel rail hose. ill be looking into it tomoro and take a closer look .then i just have o figure out where i looped that hose when i installed my CAI and ill be done and ready to crank.... i need to install my axles to but that wont take long. and i picked up my distributor cap from autozone today so i know i wont be getting the wrong one this time.. thats what i get for being cheap and buying a 6 dollar cap from ebay... owell i have a 2 year warranty now so im good :D

[-$MOKIN-]

The ac compressor doesn't use coolant ....LOL
But the wires that go to it are close to the radiator on the drivers side.

[88lxi-shortram]

i deleted my ac so the wires are uneeded. im going to post that diagram im looking at in a minute so wait for it

[88lxi-shortram]

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4890/codysrad.png (http://img16.imageshack.us/i/codysrad.png/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[88lxi-shortram]

ok i got down to doing my coolant stuff today. i got most of it figured out but i cant figure out where one hose goes. it comes from the port farthest to the drivers side. i think it goes into the IACV but im not quite sure. i just want someone elses opinion before i hook everything wrong and cause damage. so any input guys?

[88lxi-shortram]

bump since theres like a billion people on now?

[88lxi-shortram]

if anyones got an answer on that plz post... anyways another question: im adding fluids next week and need an opinion on ATF. i know honda ATF is always reccomended but i honestly cant afford it right now. and my car will get swapped to a 5 speed before the year end so i guess my question is, will something like walmart ATF work until i decide to do my swap? i think it will but i just want some input on it

[88lxi-shortram]

O and I need to know if there is a plug that's goes to that AC can that is located on the drivers side. I have a plug just hanging there and idk what it's for

[charliekuney]

will something like walmart ATF work until i decide to do my swap?

If you plan on selling a crap transmission right after you swap, yes. Otherwise, no.


O and I need to know if there is a plug that's goes to that AC can that is located on the drivers side. I have a plug just hanging there and idk what it's for

Picture?

[Dr_Snooz]

ok i got down to doing my coolant stuff today. i got most of it figured out but i cant figure out where one hose goes. it comes from the port farthest to the drivers side. i think it goes into the IACV but im not quite sure. i just want someone elses opinion before i hook everything wrong and cause damage. so any input guys?

I'm not understanding your problem. If you fill the car with coolant, the hose will go where the coolant is leaking out, right?

[88lxi-shortram]

the problem is idk where that hose goes. in my opinion it seems to go onto the IACV. its the only coolant port on that side of the coolant pipe and i have the drivers side port of the IACV unhosed. i dont want to damage the IACV by doing it wrong so i just need to know if thats where that hose goes or if ive messed up somewhere. and ill try to start posting pics soon. i just got a new labtop and my moms been hoarding away my camera so ive got to get that then pics will start to be posted and these questions will be easier to answer.

[88lxi-shortram]

well i dont have any updated pics of the car yet but... here my valve cover that i just finished painting and sanding....
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8787/1000638z.th.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/i/1000638z.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/4514/1000639u.th.jpg (http://img534.imageshack.us/i/1000639u.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[88lxi-shortram]

ok well axles are going in today and my teacher told me i should replace the seals before i do so. idk if i should b/c they didnt leak before i removed them so i think theyre fine. but does anyone else think i should just replace them right now?

[MessyHonda]

seals on the transmission?

[88lxi-shortram]

the seals that go b/w the axles and the gearbox...

[87roach]

If they didn't leak before and you're on a tight budget then I wouldn't worry about it..

Then again, it'll be more expensive to replace them down the line if they start leaking.

[88lxi-shortram]

Yea i replaced them today... Axles are going in Monday along with the ATF and then I'll try to crank it.

[88lxi-shortram]

lol about those axles.... i didnt take them out so idk how to put them back... i cant get them to squeeze through the damper fork so should i remove it?

[MessyHonda]

lol about those axles.... i didnt take them out so idk how to put them back... i cant get them to squeeze through the damper fork so should i remove it?

yeah you are going to have to drop the lower control arm

[A18A]

you don't drop the lower control arm. you can either separate the inner cv joint and get it past like that, or you can remove the fork (probably the best thing to do)

[88lxi-shortram]

Ok I'll just remove the fork. I didn't want to do that because I feel like it'll throw my alignment off but I don't mind because that means after I'm done I get learn how to do an alignment...

[88lxi-shortram]

Ok now that forums back up here's a huge update!!! It's running !!!!

[88lxi-shortram]

so i recently found out i need a new radiator due to an internal crack. or at least thats what my teachers says. i do agree with him but heres the " symtpoms" so you guys can think about it.


i opened the cap to check water level and saw that it was pink.... i took a "sample" and it felt like ATF. i know the radiator has a trans cooler built into it but im not sure if they are supposed to mix together. i would suspect not because water wouldnt be good for the trans.

ill be draining the rest of my 25 dollar honda ATF today to ensure that theres no water floating around on my trans internals.

[Dr_Snooz]

Yay for running!!!!

Boo for pink coolant. It does sound like a crack in the radiator. You could replace the radiator, but we all know the real solution to your problem is an MT swap. LOL. Seriously though, don't buy a cheapy radiator. It will be much more likely to fail and if it fails in the right way, you can end up rebuilding an engine. It's not worth the risk if you're asking me. I'll buy all kinds of things from the junkyard, but radiators, hoses, belts, starters or alternators are not among them.

[88lxi-shortram]

yea i was going to buy one off ebay for 70 bucks.... o and also, today i hit pull a part and saw a clean ass coupe... just scavenging through it while my friend helped some lady and i found a minty factory manual, warranty book, front bra accesory brochure and the sleeve it came in... and the best part i got it for free :D

[88lxi-shortram]

i just realized yesterday while i was workin with my headlights waiting for a lift that one headlamp doesnt work.... my motors where still going apeshit so i finally got tired of trying to diagnose them and unpluged the motor so they stay up. this is just temporary though dont worry. so i may end up getting a set of HIDs when the rest of my money comes in... and i get a new battery. but hopefully today ill have the car on the lift to inspect for the leaks that have sprung up... i have 3 leaks i need to look into, 2 of them i think i can fix with clamps or maybe a new hose but one is a very slow leak from the pan (i believe) and its not making a huge leak so if it is ill leave it for now. i just need my car on the road and getting me to work and back. also if i have time ill be hooking up a timing light to make srue im not off by too much. hopefully ill snap some pics and able to document this a little better.

and for those of you who didnt follow it there is alot of status updates and progress in the technical thread....http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75586.. it got off the topic of the start which has almost been fixed and more onto the status so i brought this back to life.

[88lxi-shortram]

not much to update on recently but did find a leak where the thermostat housing meets the head so i ordered a new gasket and got the thermostat gasket instead of the surface gasket but since it was 2 bucks i kept it and ordered the right one as well. im glad i did cuz it was ready to go... so thats in already and the new one should be going in wednesday. then im throwing it all back together, refilling the radiator, driving around with less atf, and bleeding the coolant system. just to be sure to blled the coolant i need to let it warm up real good, and while its running loosen the bleeder screw until the stream soming out is 100% water correct?

[88lxi-shortram]

ok well today i got the timing light out and checked it... its perfect :D... now onto the next thing, i need new terminals because mine are too loose so idk if it has anything to do with it but heres the next problem im having. the car will finally idle by itself after it starts up (sometimes i have to keep it from dying at the begining but after that it idles great), but when i rev it up it acts like it dies then revs up... instead of revving it goes blank and then revs but its a rough rev until about 2.5-3k. also when i drive it it sometimes backfires and doesnt really want to go any higher than 3k but when i let off and get back on the gas it goes higher. also today when i got on it and got it up towards 4.5k i let off and it died off. luckily me and my friend had a jumpbox handy so we got back on the road and back to the shop ok. but this has led me to believe i have a fuel pressure problem which could involve my regualtor. im not sure though and would like opinions from others so any input is great guys thx in advance for those of you who are actually following me and helping me.

[88lxi-shortram]

Bump?

[88lxi-shortram]

update!!!!!
the car came home today! and im getting a windshield and a cat this weekend hopefully so maybe by monday the car could be on the road if i pass emmisions and inspection....

just a side note i smiled the whole way home

[A18A]

sweeeeet!!

[ShyBoyCA6]

sweet bro. i felt the same way when i drove Rhonda around the city :) feels good to have them on the road.

[MessyHonda]

sweet bro. i felt the same way when i drove Rhonda around the city :) feels good to have them on the road.

:( makes me miss my car..

[88lxi-shortram]

im getting the windshield tomoro guys :D

[ShyBoyCA6]

:( makes me miss my car..

yeah sold my 4dr and miss her :(. i got 2 coupes now to take her place.

[88lxi-shortram]

yea i wish i had more than 1 3gee... but on the plus side my little brother got bit by the 3gee bug already and he wants a hatch as soon as he gets money and finds one... so maybe one day we'll have 2 3gees in the driveway

[A18A]

having more than one is great. if you forget where something goes, you can look at the other car for reference

[MessyHonda]

yeah im always on the look out for a clean 3gee

[88lxi-shortram]

everyone is... anyways i did the math and to have my car done and complete like i want it will be around 500 which includes

Cat: 95
fat fives: 160
HIDs: 85
dropzones around 100
tag and reg: around 50

490.... plus the gas i need... so 500

[88lxi-shortram]

im proud of my new windshield without the ugly orange tint on top :D now its black and i can see through it

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/6216/39546043.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/i/39546043.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[88lxi-shortram]

time to dust off this thread so heres an update on the accord, i spent my first check buying parts :D i ordered me some dropzones yesterday :D i know theyre not ksports or d2's but they will work til i have the revenue for a setup like that... ill post pics once i get them and intall

[88lxi-shortram]

springs arrived ontime today and should be goin on as soon as tomoro. ill be sure to have up the before and afters when i do

[ShyBoyCA6]

:facepalm:

I Hope you know its rare to have the golden orange tint on the windshield? im still looking for one for my coupe.

[88lxi-shortram]

Yea I know it's rare but I've never been to fond of it lol. Even though it's rare it's not really Gonna make the value skyrocket anyways. Lol I'd rather have this black tint than have the old orange one with a destroyed windshield

[88lxi-shortram]

ok i went in and redid every last broken wire the other day to try to stop that sputtering hesitation. i regapped my plugs to 35 and semi-fixed my sticky throttle. also the reverse drop problem has been resolved as well thank god. the car drives better now that i redid the wires with crimping connectors and re gapped the plugs but it still has the sputtering hesitation. BUT its only when im driving and let off the gas and let it return to a normal idles while cruising and then get back on the gas slowly. im starting to think its time for a new rotor in my dizzy. so thats the to fix list for now but heres some good news... i got my springs on the day after i got them and the car sits perfect. its low but doesnt rub tires and doesnt scrape. its not bouncy and rides way better than expected so thats a plus. also started looking for insurance so i can get on the road w/o having fears of cops and found a small company that will insure me for 750 for 6 months. thats pretty decent since im 18 the cars in my name and nobody else is on my coverage plan. now it emmisions time and tag time and then............... road time :D... ill post pics of the car after the rain clears up. i have a bad phone pic to give you an idea but ill have to post later on today.

[88lxi-shortram]

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/640/0626111626.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/i/0626111626.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[2oodoor]

have you ever taken out the distributor and just took it apart and clean/lube it up, made a huge difference in my Lxi...
that pick up plate inside it is suspended on a ball bearing slide deal...

also sounds like a voltage check at the TPS output is needed.

[88lxi-shortram]

how do you take off the tps anyways... i was going to switch throttle bodies and it looks like theyre riveted on there...anyway ive never disassmebled the distributor. ive never really thought about it but i may try it. got any advice on doing that by the way? also when i do the voltage test what should it read? i just got a new multimeter so this will be an excuse to play with it.

[mushroom_toy]

On the tps dremel a slot in the rivet...its actually a screw.

[88lxi-shortram]

yea i figured it now lol... but i tested it and it seemed fine. the reading start at .04 at closed throttle and smotthly raises with the throttle uo to 3.3 WOT. so idk if it needs replacing

[Rendon LX-i]

U can take out the brass bushings on the tps an you set it closed at .5 volts an wot 4.5 at wot. If u can't get it in spec an it jumps around when your doing it, it needs replacing

[stat1K]

3.3 at wot seems low to me. my civic is in the 4.5... i was pretty sure all honda tps secs are .5v closed 4.5 open.

[88lxi-shortram]

U can take out the brass bushings on the tps an you set it closed at .5 volts an wot 4.5 at wot. If u can't get it in spec an it jumps around when your doing it, it needs replacing

where are these brass bushings? inside i presume?

and do you think that it could cause the sputtering hesitation that im getting from being to low?

[88lxi-shortram]

would this one work?http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-TPS-Throttle-Position-Sensor-Honda-Accord-CRV-CRX-/220667524855?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AHonda%7CModel%3AAccord&hash=item3360cf36f7


also do yal think i could pull the one from my prelude and itll work? ill have to uncover it if it does but its worththe work if itll fit

[88lxi-shortram]

ok well today i tested the tps again but this time while it was running and the numbers got a little jumpy, also it skipped an entire volt going up from idle throught the low rpms. this is leading me to believe its the problem. im going to use the one off my lude and if it doesnt help ill buy a brand new one to be sure whether or not its the issue

and heres a pic i snapped just for the hell of it. it makes my wheel gap look huge but its really not
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/9881/0701111036.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/0701111036.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[Pico]

did you check to see if your 02 sensor wires are not crossed, and you're checking the TPS with the engine off and ignition on only right?

[88lxi-shortram]

i havent checked the o2 sensors wires but im pretty sure theyre right. i tested it both ways with it in the on position and not running and once while it was running. either way voltage is low from what ive been told. when i have it closed it can range from as low .45 to a solid .5 then i can creep up and have a decently smooth rise in volts but once i get wot its 3.3 max. thats with the motor not running

[88lxi-shortram]

i drove it around today for about an hour and guess u were right i needed to drive it and drive it lol... my cel came on and flashed once so its an o2 sensor gone bad. sooooo here my question, can an o2 sensor throw off my throttle like that? i never thought of an o2 sensor doing much besides reading emmisions data.

[ShyBoyCA6]

ok well 4 and 1 is left and 2 and 3 is right for o2 sensors

oh btw your car is still a 4x4 :D:thumbup:

edit: yes an O2 will throw off throttle if not receiving the right signal. replace BOTH O2 sensors.

[88lxi-shortram]

4x4 :P not for long duuuude, im getting d2s or ksports when i sell my truck so.... :P and i am goin to replace both its 50 bucks for both which im ok with, but im still replacing the tps and the throttle body cuz ive still got a sticky idle from my bad spring and the numbers are still a little jumpy on the tps.

[88lxi-shortram]

ok guys update time.... o2 sensors are on their way as well as, a new tps, a new TB gasket, and im going to get a new muffler today :D

[88lxi-shortram]

does anyone know what other cats i could use that would fit a cb7? i have my exhaust setup for a cb7 cat and have friends with every kind of honda. i dont want to spend 100 bucks on a cat when i could borrow someones and pass emmisions and give it right back.

[88lxi-shortram]

ok got my TB gasket and the o2 sensors just waiting for the tps now :D. on another note i bought a new headlamp today because my old one got water in it and stopped working but i installed it and its dimmer than it should be. then i walked around the car and noticed the corner on the passenger side is dim aswell. its something to do with the passenger side wiring so tomoro im going to research how to test the system and see whats up and try to fix it. if anyone can offer tests solutions that'd be great to. lol my fiances gone so i have some time to pay the accord some major attention. i got a front lip and painted my bumper to refresh the look and it looks great... pics soon :D

[88lxi-shortram]

replaced my tps today and its set to .5 idle 4.7 WOT... i drove for a while and the CEL came on for the tps so i may need to adjust more

[88lxi-shortram]

heres some quick pics i took today after driving around
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2192/photoshoot1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/835/photoshoot1.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2382/photoshoot2p.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/36/photoshoot2p.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9103/photoshoot3i.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/photoshoot3i.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[88lxi-shortram]

but anyways, i replaced everything as you know ( TPS,o2 sensors, and set the TPS to the best i could and now it still sputters and hesitates. but it shakes the entire car sometimes and scares the hell out of me. its fine in 1st gear, then once the transmission shifts to second its starts the hesitation and then third it gets worse with loud backfires and in fourth it seems like the car is just having to much load on the motor... maybe my TV cable needs adjusting more? i took a 5 minute video to show exactly how it is but dont have a way to upload it yet... ill do it ASAP though


also i mentioned my headlights being dim and there may be an elec prob. in an earlier post and today while taking the pics i noticed they where on... very dim and hardly noticable but nonetheless they where on. you can see it in the pics if you look close (the switch was off FYI)

[88lxi-shortram]

bump? i start work on thursday and the explorer threw out yet another transmission... no money to replace so the accord HAS to be done by then... talk about pressure

[88lxi-shortram]

wow finally thought i got a response lol and its a damn spammer

[88lxi-shortram]

would my plug wires getting hot have anything to do withthis decrease in performance? i noticed it does this after it warms up but when i just start it it doesnt sputter :/

[88lxi-shortram]

just for shits and giggles i switched the o2 sensor wires today and so far no sputtering... i need to drive it more to confirm its right but i think that was the problem. also i noticed something about my headlight problem, they only dimly light up when the radiator fan kicks on. when it shuts off the lights go off as well.... maybe a bad relay?

[88lxi-shortram]

its defintily been a while since my last log on so just FYI im not dead lol. i recently had family issues which led to me, my brother, and my mom to move out away from my dad and live with my grandmother.... long story short i needed to move the accord so saw it as an opportunity to get a real test drive on the new motor. it drove great, stayed steady and shifted nice :D i had a good 45 minute drive through traffice and open road so i actually got the whole range of throttle action... i did notice that when i turned my headlights on my headlight light on the dash lit up and my lights began to flicker. luckily i didnt get pulled over but i want to get this fixed asap. i was wondering if maybe my alt. belt being loose could be the culprit? i remember working on my teachers civic was flickering and it was a bad diode in the alternator... i get a loud squeling noise as the rpms rise so im thinking its the belt being loose causing the alternator to spin at less than adequate speeds possibly causing the flickering?

[Convenienze]

Hey, what lip is that?
im pretty desperate on finding one that fits my car.. lol

[Ayeobe]

is it just the headlights that flicker? The headlamp light in the dash is for a problem in the lights.. as far as i know, the retractor motor circuit, i dont know about the headlight circuit themselves though. Toight that belt up, and see if it fixes it, though. gotta do it anyway, right? lol

[88lxi-shortram]

ok not much to update on guys. i havent had much time to work on the accord. b/w work and moving out i havent had time to grab my tools. but i finally grabbed them the other day excited to work and remembered i had surgury that weekend... needless to say ive been making a slow, painfull, SUPER gay recovery thats kept me from working on the car :(... but im going back to work tomoro so if i make some money this week and if im feeling up to it the accord will definitly be seeing some love :D.... i make decent money now that im off training ( anywhere from 100 a week to 1000 a week :D) so heres a recent list of mods i plan on doing soon...

1/2" pinch fork mod
new flaken tires
finish wire tuck/ engine bay clean-up
more body work
ST sway bars
energy suspension bushings
slotted rotors, new pads
custom 2.25" exhuast (im going to learn how to bend everything myself)
new wheels... idk what i want though but open to suggestions

[88lxi-shortram]

just thought i'd throw up a pic of my car that me and my buddy took... enjoy

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7008/1000760p.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/403/1000760p.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[88lxi-shortram]

small update for my car since its been ages. i fixed the headlight flickering. turned out to be a bad ground. ive also finished my 1/2" pinch fork mod and stripped the interior. im still having the reverse drop problem but i do my best to avoid reverse. havent done much to the body besides paint and reassembling the front end but heres a pic to show how im looking now

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/787/1000801b.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/1000801b.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[obdriver6]

Be really to go through a few front lips! lol looks nice BTW!

[88lxi-shortram]

i love my lip :D it was 20 bucks and i had enough for 2 cars so basically a 10 dollar lip :D thx for the love bro i like to hear that people like my car. i try to be a little different than the generic teg lip and generic mods. i am going lower soon though. ive got a buyer for my springs and once they are sold i will be oredering my coilovers and going moar low :D

[Tdurr]

Looking good man.

[88lxi-shortram]

Thx bro. You comin to ia?

[obdriver6]

I know what you mean, thats why I love my lip its different!

[88lxi-shortram]

Ive got another lip im working on thats from an older volvo that may give it a really agressive look... Well see though

[A18A]

car has come a long way :) I still remember walking you through a engine removal haha

[88lxi-shortram]

Lol I know. That was first engine swap.. You helped out alot. Lol since then ive done at least 10-15 swaps. U sparked the flame XD

[88lxi-shortram]

allright well to start off im legal on the road now :D. passed emmisions for the last time and everything :D ive been driving it to work and back for almost 3 months and everythings been going good besides an oil leak. but i recieved my new hose in the mail which will stop my oil leak hopefully. but today my car was idling at 250 when i got off the exit and everytime id stop from acceleration. soooo... i played with my idle screw a little and took it to 1000 rpm just to accomadate for later idle drop. also i checked my fuel pressure and im only running 30 psi while running. if im not mistaken it should be at 38 correct? i have an aem FPR i can use but havent put it on. someone clear up exactly what my fuel psi should be and what else could cause this.... o and my passenger door is jammed shut so if anyone knows how to magically open it plz spread some knowledge

[obdriver6]

Fuel pressure should be between 36-41psi and why is the door jammed shut?

[88lxi-shortram]

wow its been a while since i updated on the car. so heres the updates. im now running the pacesetter header, port IM, and a carbed engine i got from luke(but its FI of course). im also a "tad bit" lower. and am planning on building 2 3gees, one boost and one all motor. ive recently got a new house so funds are a little short until i start being able to average out my bills and such but you guys will be seeing more of me here again since i now have access to the internet again and will soon be buying another camera. but pics coming to you guys in the next few minutes here.

[88lxi-shortram]

5540
just a teaser til i get home

[Dr_Snooz]

Okay, I'll bite. What's the pic of?

Welcome back BTW.

[88lxi-shortram]

new color,wheels,and stance

[RAZR]

We are waiting for more pics!!

[88lxi-shortram]

been slackin lol trying to fix my buddys carbed 3gee and im stumped lol. more pics tonight or ban!

[88lxi-shortram]

555655575558 some cell pics for now

[Dr_Snooz]

Looks boss dude.

[88lxi-shortram]

thx man. thinking about changing colors again soon but this time the car will be down for a while. im going to full strip it down, do all the body work;every last ding; and have the interior, engine bay and exterior of the car paint the white thats coming on the new crz. it has a slight hint of blue pearl in it and i love it lol. other than that ill be doing a tuck on the pass. side of the bay and recoating the underside of the car.

ill be buying another 3gee to rat out to the fullest soon. ive heard of people running s2k trannies on c32 motors which i just so happen to have laying around so im going to be building the first (that i know of ) front engine RWD accord. it wont be a fast build but you best believe it will happen piece by piece.

[Dr_Snooz]

That sounds completely sick! Take lots of pics and vids.

[88lxi-shortram]

i will once i get the funds for a project shell lol

[88lxi-shortram]

6720

been a while huh guys lol

[2oodoor]

Hey I WAS just thinking that when I saw you on, what r u driving these days?

[88lxi-shortram]

right now im driving my eg. its been a great daily but damn its hard to go anywhere in it. egs are getting stolen left and right and it makes going to the store for more than an hour is nerveracking. i just recently finished painting my bay. lol actually its still drying. ill post pics of it once it finishes drying. planning on dropping the motor into it next weekend. also got a beautiful set of sei leathers i threw in the car. next ill start restoring my rear disks. (caliper rebuilds, next rotors/pads, new bushings for the entire rear, painted backing plates and new undercoating. now that i have access to a computer ill be keeping everyone updated more often...

on a completely unrelated update i will be having a baby boy in july. so that is a reason ive been slacking on the build lately. been busy on getting together baby stuff and making room in my house for him.

[Dr_Snooz]

Congratulations!

[Honda Man]

Congratulations shortram! boy or girl?? M6 daughter is turning 1 in July as well. Glad to see your car coming along to!

[88lxi-shortram]

its a boy :D . got the car untaped today wheels put back on so that its a rolling shell now. gonna start prepping a few things then saturday motor should be going in.

[88lxi-shortram]

well here i am again. the forum ghost. been a little busy getting the car ready for IA this year. been a long 6 month process but its almost there. of course a build is never done but i can say im happy how it turned out. still missing alot of parts ive been meaning to throw on but thatll all happen in due time. heres an updated of how the car sits.7370

[rushell]

nice

[87roach]

I like the rims a lot, stance looks good too.